Linux-Networking Digest #902, Volume #9          Sat, 16 Jan 99 23:13:55 EST

Contents:
  Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly? 
(Gary Momarison)
  CNETs PCMCIA ethernet adapter. ("Javier Minero")
  Re: Cannot login to samba server (Tom Arnold)
  Re: begginer need help please (SuprMath)
  where does pop3 save messages? (Samy Zafrany)
  Re: Help with Ethernet card (John Wolanski)
  Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly? 
(David Steuber)
  Re: ppp-2.3.4: CHAP problem (HELP)
  Re: Revenge of NT? (L J Bayuk)
  NET2PHONE with Linux ISDN router with masq problem (Daniel Zeiss)
  Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly? 
(Kevin)
  Re: Linksys Ethernet ("Rich Mycroft")
  Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly? 
(John Hasler)
  Re: Configuring PPP server for IPX (Chris Clark)
  dns will not work properly ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Sending a file to a remote machine's port (Josh Rusko)
  Re: Attaching to Novell and NT servers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly? 
(Alexander Viro)

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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND 
idiot-friendly?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 15:48:33 -0800

"Ian Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My job involves supporting several hundred desktop users who are NOT rocket
> scientists. Some of them need desktop shortcuts to their applications, the
> Start menu frightens them. Some of them still insist on File Manager because
> "Explorer is too confusing".
[snip]
> So until Linux can accomdated that kind of user, as well as power users,
> it's going to have a hard time becoming the dominant desktop OS.

If a company's computer users are that ignorant, they should not have
general purpose computer OSes put in front of them. The OS should be
customized so the users can easily do the relatively small set of things
that they need to do. This costomization is something that is much 
easier in Linux than proprietary OSes, from simply configuring a
window manager to rewriting one to support the needed tasks.

Note that this kind of thing would be better done if the kernel people
ever get around to creating a better permissions scheme.

Anyway, the ease-of-use issue will soon be addressed.  The most important
thing that is needed to advance Linux as a desktop OS is the developement
and popularization of good multiple-OS software developement systems,
so that application writers can port programs written for M$ to Linux
cheaply enough to make money off the effort. When more good apps are
available, users will run from M$ with great pleasure.

-- 
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html

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From: "Javier Minero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CNETs PCMCIA ethernet adapter.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:51:45 -0600

Hello out there,

   I am considering to buy a PCMCIA Ethernet adapter
(http://www.cnet.com.tw/products/p-nic-cn40bc.html)  for my laptop. In short
I'll be installing RH 5.1 on this machine. Has anybody had any experience
with this card? Is there any place where I can get a list of supported
PCMCIA Ethernet adapters that Linux supports?

   Thanks.



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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:57:03 -0500
From: Tom Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.smb,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Cannot login to samba server

Steve - I am having a similiar delemma for which I do not yet have a
solution.  But if you haven't seen it yet, look in
/usr/doc/samba-1.9.18p10/docs.  There are at least two files to read on
this subject:  ENCRIPTION.txt and WinNT.txt.  They could help you.  Also
look at the FAQ at
http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/ntdom_faq/page2.html.  HTH.
-- 
   Tom 
   Bena, VA

Steve wrote:
> 
> In article <774aqt$rgr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jonas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >If you are using windows 95 osr2 or NT you have to use encrypted passwords
> >or disable this feature on your windows mashines.
> >Read files ENCRYPTION.txt, WinNT.txt and Win95.txt in /usr/doc/samba*/docs
> >directory for more info.
> 
> I have an almost identical problem - I have Samba set up to authenticate
> passwords from a Win95 OSR2 machine, but the only user it'll let log on is
> "root" - not an ideal situation... :-)  I've already turned off encrypted
> passwords and tried running "smbpasswd -a user1" as root, where user1 is a
> user account that already exists on the Linux box, but no joy so far.  Anyone
> got any good ideas?  I've already thought of turning off Samba-based password
> authentication, thanks...
> 
> Oh, and x applications refuse to run on my VNC X-server, but that's another
> story.
> 
> Steve Jolly
> 
> ----------------
> To reply by email, remove "nospam" from email address.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SuprMath)
Subject: Re: begginer need help please
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:56:26 GMT

Read the Samba HOW-TO and the smbd man pages

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From: Samy Zafrany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: where does pop3 save messages?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:33:04 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We have disc quota problems which we suspect due to pop3 keeping too
many messages on our Linux mail server (we use Red Hat 5.1).
Most users read their mail with netscape from remote pc's.
For example, I know that my mail box is empty, and even checked that
/var/spool/mail/my-account is empty. But pop3 tells me that I have 97
messages (some of them are huge).
I would like to clean all the users messages
due to disk shortage. However I could not figure out where pop3 keeps
those mesages?? (realy looked hard).
Can anybody please tell me where those messages are kept?
Thanks all!
Samy


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From: John Wolanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Help with Ethernet card
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:34:37 -0500

Which model cards were these that you had problems with?  I'm looking
into shopping for a new card or three here soon and want to stay away
from the troublemakers!  ;-)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Linksys cards can be problematic.  The cards are programable via software and
> come set as PNP. You have to disable the PNP and set the IRQ, etc. manually.
> This is supposed to work by running the setup utility in DOS.  Even this
> doens't always pan out a advertised.  I was unable to get in straight from
> DOS on two cards but managed to get in and set them through Win95.  Once you
> set the parameters the card can be run under the target OS without further
> ado.

-- 
-John Wolanski
        Remove the "_removethis" from my email address to reply.

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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND 
idiot-friendly?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 19:25:28 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin) writes:

-> I guess my point is, what is the goal of users of the Linux platform, anyway?

My personal goal is to learn how to program drivers, applications, and 
X applications for Linux.  I also want to be able to maintain my own
computing environment without reliance on Microsoft.

I also want to advocate the use of Linux to others and get the
operating system into mainstream use.  First as a replacement to NT,
then as a replacement to Windows 9X.  The reason for that is to make
the desktop a competitive environment again that is not controled by
one company, but rather by the end users.

I am a rebel with a cause.

-- 
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail

SYSTEM ALERT: /dev/null is full.  Please delete any unnecessary files.

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From: HELP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp-2.3.4: CHAP problem
Date: 17 Jan 1999 01:51:27 GMT

Thanks for your help but it still doesn't work.

I have recompiled ppp-2.3.4 with commenting out USE_CRYPT macro and
added "" to secret field of the chap-secrets file.

but still ConfRej...

I also asked my ISP's help center but they don't know how to connect to
their server from linux.

BTW, how do I know if I have encrypt()?
no man page for encrypt but following code compiled with no error:
void main() { encrypt(); }

I read README.MSCHAP80 and successfully tested testchap.c in it.

so my chap-secrets file is now:  DialupNT  guest     ""
                                 guest     DialupNT  ""
and run pppd with "pppd /dev/modem 38400 name guest remotename DialupNT
defaultroute".
my kernel is 2.0.35 within slackware 3.6.

Thanks again.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Revenge of NT?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 01:52:30 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Got an odd kind of problem here, so I'll give a short version and a long
>version.
>
>Short: re-installing RedHat 5.2 (Linux kernel 2.0.36) on a Dell P2 400
>with 8 GB drive.  The network card appears to be a 3Com 3c905B Cyclone.
>During setup, I re-entered all the relevant numbers--IP, gateway,
>etc...--just like the first installation. My boot-up doesn't give me any
>obvious error messages, but I absolutely cannot see my network.  Pinging
>or telnetting just gives me "unknown host" or "host name lookup failure"
>error messages.  Don't know where to get a handle on this; hardware
>connections look okay, and the config files I've checked look pretty
>much like they did before. Any ideas?
...
First off, I wouldn't suspect the net card because the error messages
refer to host name resolution. Before you do anything else, try
ping and telnet by IP address, like telnet and ping your own IP
address, and then another IP address on your same network cable (no
routing), then one across a router. If these work the problem
is your /etc/hosts table or your /etc/resolv.conf DNS name resolution
setup, not the card. If they don't work, maybe you will get some more
informative error messages.

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Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:48:42 +0000
From: Daniel Zeiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NET2PHONE with Linux ISDN router with masq problem

Hello,

i am running a Linux ISDN router box which works really fine with http,
ftp etc.

BUT

i also need to run NET2PHONE (www.net2phone.com) on the Windows PCs in
the net, where the masq fails.

You can specify in the net2phone.ini the TCPPORT and UDPPORT (both set
to 6613) but when the client handshakes with the NET2PHONE server the
server sends an icmp to port 6613 (which is not specified in the docu)
and the Linux router answers that icmp is not reachable

tcpdump -i ippp0 (extract)
xx:xx:xx.xxxx 169.132.184.211.34783 > myip .6613  udp 50 (DF)
xx:xx:xx.xxxx myip > 169.132.184.211: icmp: myip udp port 6613
unreachable [tos 0xc0]

It seems that this is the 2nd handshake ....NET2PHONE doesnt give a
statement.

Can you help me?

cu

Daniel





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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:30:48 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND 
idiot-friendly?

Acutally, I thought he had a point, since most Linux users I've met have
grand dreams of usurping Windows (98 *and* NT) and MacOS....which does beg
the question.

If Linux is *not* being shot at the "typical" home user, than you are
quite right, "hard" is not the issue.

I guess my point is, what is the goal of users of the Linux platform, anyway?

--Kevin

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> MalkContent wrote:
> > 
> 
> Yada, yada, yada.
> 
> Why don't you yap about this on the advocacy newsgroups and level the
> technical discussions groups out of it.  We're trying to help and learn
> about Linux, whining about how hard you find it has no place here.
> 
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From: "Rich Mycroft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linksys Ethernet
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:07:45 -0500

I spent three days messing with two linksys cards on two different linux
boxes and finally gave up in disgust and got two intel cards.  After that
both machines came right up.  I tried everything I could find on the linksys
web pages - and one of the cards even had a linux logo on the box it came
in - but could not get them to behave.  In addition my ISP guru claims that
intel and 3com cards have a much higher net through put.  Wouldn't know, but
at this point linksys has been added to the "don't buy" list.

rich

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <76nnd4$k2i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Anybody have anyexperience getting the Linksys 10M Ethernet card to
>> work with Linux? I have the Network starter kit (2 10M cards, 1 10M
>> hub) and the Linksys 3 port 10/100M print server.
>>
>> ** REMOVE NOSPAMs IN THE EMAIL ADDRESS TO REPLY VIA EMAIL.
>>
>
>It is NE2000 compatible
>
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND 
idiot-friendly?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:29:02 GMT

Alexander Viro writes:
> Damn it, folks, it's getting ridiculuos. *Writing* grep from scratch takes
> less than week.

Write it in perl and it should take less than a day.  Two days if you've
never used perl before.

> Even Windows should provide *that* much.

And when you are done try using it on a Word97 document.
-- 
John Hasler                This posting is in the public domain.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]            Do with it what you will.
Dancing Horse Hill         Make money from it if you can; I don't mind.
Elmwood, Wisconsin         Do not send email advertisements to this address.

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From: Chris Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Configuring PPP server for IPX
Date: 15 Jan 1999 19:22:39 -0700


"Stu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't know much, but while I'm here, I thought I'd throw in my two cents.
> IPX isn't routable.

Incorrect.  IPX is indeed routable, which includes routing over PPP
links.

> So you have to run IPX on some routable protocol (like ip)

This is true only if your routers are NOT configured to handle IPX
traffic.  The routers on "the Internet" are an example of such
routers: they route only IP.  So you can't send IPX packets over the
"Internet" (capital "I").  But there's nothing inherent in the IPX
protocol which prevents routing.  IPX is routed quite well as long as
the routers are configured to route it.

Many folks have their own dialup configurations in which they control
the routers on both ends--those folks are free to enable IPX in their
routers and create a large (routable) IPX network, even over a PPP
link.

(Now NetBEUI--there's a protocol which really isn't routable! :-)

Cheerio,
Chris

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Subject: dns will not work properly
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:28:16 -0500

The following is the script of the major files.  named is finding
errors shown in usr/adm/messages.  Also when I run nslookup, nslookup
cannot find the name for 127.0.0.1

Script started on Sat Jan 16 21:13:15 1999
jc:~# cat /etc/named
cat: /etc/named: Is a directory
jc:~# cat /etc/named/ .conf
/*
 * A simple BIND 8 configuration
 */

options {
        directory "/var/named";
};

zone "." in {
        type hint;
        file "root.hints";
};

zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" in {
        type master;
        file "pz/127.0.0";
};

jc:~# cat /var/named/root.hints


  .                     6D IN NS        G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
  .                     6D IN NS        F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.

  G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    192.112.36.4
  J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    198.41.0.10
  K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    193.0.14.129
  L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    198.32.64.12
  M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    202.12.27.33
  A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    198.41.0.4
  H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    128.63.2.53
  B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    128.9.0.107
  C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    192.33.4.12
  D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    128.8.10.90
  E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    192.203.230.10
  I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    192.36.148.17
  F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.     5w6d16h IN A    192.5.5.241

jc:~# cat /var/named/pz/127.0.0


  @               IN      SOA     jc.plum.org. (
                                  1       ; Serial
                                  8H      ; Refresh
                                  2H      ; Retry
                                  1W      ; Expire
                                  1D)     ; Minimum TTL
                          NS      jc.plum.org
  1                       PTR     localhost.


jc:~# tail -100 /usr/adm/messages
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: root.hints:28: Database error
 (I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: root.hints: Line 29: Unknown type:
 F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: root.hints:29: Database error 
(F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: pz/127.0.0: Line 3: Unknown type: @.
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: pz/127.0.0:3: Database error (@)
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: pz/127.0.0:4: Database error ()
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: pz/127.0.0:5: Database error ()
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: pz/127.0.0:6: Database error ()
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: pz/127.0.0:7: Database error ()
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: pz/127.0.0: Line 8: Unknown type: 1D).
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: pz/127.0.0:8: Database error (1D))
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: pz/127.0.0:9: data "" 
outside zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" (ignored)
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: pz/127.0.0:10: data ""
 outside zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" (ignored)
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: listening on [127.0.0.1].53 (lo)
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: listening on [192.168.1.1].53 (eth0)
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: listening on [209.154.110.124].53 (ppp0)
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[364]: Forwarding source address is [0.0.0.0].1052
Jan 16 21:02:50 jc named[365]: Ready to answer queries.
Jan 16 21:03:16 jc named[365]: No root nameservers for class IN
Jan 16 21:06:31 jc pppd[163]: Terminating on signal 2.
Jan 16 21:06:31 jc pppd[163]: Connection terminated.
Jan 16 21:06:31 jc pppd[163]: Exit.
Jan 16 21:06:58 jc named[365]: named shutting down
Jan 16 21:06:58 jc named[365]: USAGE 916542418 
916542170 CPU=0u/0s CHILDCPU=0u/0s
Jan 16 21:06:58 jc named[365]: NSTATS 916542418 916542170 PTR=1
Jan 16 21:06:58 jc named[365]: XSTATS 916542418 916542170 RR=0 RNXD=0 
RFwdR=0 RDupR=0 RFail=0 RFErr=0 RErr=0 RAXFR=0 RLame=0 ROpts=0 
SSysQ=0 SAns=1 SFwdQ=0 SDupQ=0 SErr=0 RQ=1 RIQ=0 RFwdQ=0 RDupQ=0 
RTCP=0 SFwdR=0 SFail=0 SFErr=0 SNaAns=1 SNXD=0
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: starting.  named 8.1.2 Sat May 23 
13:48:59 CDT 1998 ^Iroot@darkstar:/tmp/BIND-8.1.2-REL/src/bin/named
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 3: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:3: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 4: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:4: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 5: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:5: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 6: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:6: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 7: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:7: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 8: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:8: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 9: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:9: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 10: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:10: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 11: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:11: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 12: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:12: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 13: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:13: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 14: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:14: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 15: Unknown type: ..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:15: Database error (.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 17: Unknown type:
 G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:17: Database error 
(G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 18: Unknown type: 
J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:18: Database error 
(J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 19: 
Unknown type: K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:19:
 Database error (K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 20: 
Unknown type: L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:20: 
Database error (L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 21: 
Unknown type: M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:21: 
Database error (M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 22: 
Unknown type: A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:22: 
Database error (A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 23: 
Unknown type: H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:23: 
Database error (H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 24: 
Unknown type: B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:24: 
Database error (B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 25: 
Unknown type: C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:25: 
Database error (C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 26: 
Unknown type: D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:26: 
Database error (D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 27: 
Unknown type: E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:27: 
Database error (E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 28: 
Unknown type: I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:28: 
Database error (I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints: Line 29: 
Unknown type: F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET..
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: root.hints:29: 
Database error (F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: pz/127.0.0: Line 3: 
Unknown type: @.
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: pz/127.0.0:3: Database error (@)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: pz/127.0.0:4: Database error ()
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: pz/127.0.0:5: Database error ()
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: pz/127.0.0:6: Database error ()
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: pz/127.0.0:7: Database error ()
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: pz/127.0.0: Line 8: Unknown type: 1D).
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: pz/127.0.0:8: Database error (1D))
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: pz/127.0.0:9: data "" 
outside zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" (ignored)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: pz/127.0.0:10: data "" 
outside zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" (ignored)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: listening on [127.0.0.1].53 (lo)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: listening on [192.168.1.1].53 (eth0)
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[391]: Forwarding source address is [0.0.0.0].1055
Jan 16 21:07:03 jc named[392]: Ready to answer queries.
Jan 16 21:07:13 jc named[392]: No root nameservers for class IN
Jan 16 21:10:43 jc pppd[398]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Jan 16 21:11:26 jc pppd[398]: Serial connection established.
Jan 16 21:11:27 jc pppd[398]: Using interface ppp0
Jan 16 21:11:27 jc pppd[398]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0

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From: Josh Rusko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sending a file to a remote machine's port
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:53:03 -0500

as a possible reason why telnet won't accept input from a pipe...telnet is a
terminal emulator and therefore uses probably termios or curses, which would
monitor for individual key strokes rather than read a stream of input data...may I
be right?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Attaching to Novell and NT servers
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:01:01 GMT

[posted and mailed]
Probably the best guide for Novell is in
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/IPX-HOWTO

I suppose for NT you would use smbclient, described in

http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO

These should probably be called the NETWARE-HOWTO and the
WINDOWS-SHARE-HOWTO or something like that.

  Asher Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a document or web page or does anyone have any information on
> how to attach a linux workstation to a Novell 3.12 server?
>
> Same question, as above but to an NT server/Peer to Peer, netbeui
> network???
>
> Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
>
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND 
idiot-friendly?
Date: 16 Jan 1999 22:59:05 -0500

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Johan Kullstam  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>ok, *you* write the regexp parser then.  ;-)

Huh? BFD. Been there, done that. Many times. No, you don't need yacc for that.
It's a trivial precedence grammar, so you don't need anything complex.
Let's see: two binary operations, several unary postfix ones. If you want
to support Perl-style (foo){5,10} stuff - add a { recognition to lexer and
make it eat up the rest of qualifier. Yet another unary operation from the
parser's point of view. Trivial loop over the input tokens, stack for pending
operations. The rest is obvious:
Start:
        while next is '('
                push '(';
                eat next;
        if next is not atom
                die;
foo:
        while next is unary operation
                emit unary;
                eat next;
        if top of stack is '*'
                emit CONCATENATE;
                pop;
        if next is '(' or atom
                push '*';
                goto Start;
        if top of stack is '|'
                emit OR;
                pop;
        if next is '|'
                push '|';
                eat next;
                goto Start;
        if top is '(' and next is ')'
                eat next;
                pop;
                goto foo;
        if at the end of input and stack is empty - OK.
        die;

        It does translation to reverse Polish, compute on the fly if you want.
Took seven minutes.
        I hope that writing lexer, generating finite automate and feeding the
input through it *may* be left as an exercise (hint: lexer should serve one or
two special cases ([a-zA-z] and {42,127} style), but they are trivially
distinguished by the first character and finding the end is also completely
obvious).
        Kiddies those days...

-- 
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid.  Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.

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