Linux-Networking Digest #923, Volume #9 Mon, 18 Jan 99 12:13:41 EST
Contents:
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Rick Moen)
Re: Delegating DNS resolving? (Brian McCauley)
Re: Really weird samba problem (Anton Dischner)
Linux mit 128k Standleitung (Per Casten)
Re: ip-up problem (Larry Rivera)
weird telnet problems (SinGin)
Problems loading lance.c driver module! ("tbx... thomas")
Re: inetd (Peter W)
Re: realy needs (Peter W)
Re: Hubs (Mogens Kjaer)
Re: executing programs on nfs? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: very small problem with cacheing nameserver (Rodney Hendricks)
Re: Questions about NAMED at STARTUP (Rodney Hendricks)
Re: Setting up RH 5.2 for ip_forwarding (Rodney Hendricks)
Re: Best place for... (Rodney Hendricks)
Re: PPP logging frames! Why? (Clifford Kite)
Finger info, hostname ("Perus")
Re: RedHat 5.2/NIS/netgroups (Thorsten Kukuk)
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Gert Wollny)
Re: Fax Server under Linux? (Kristofer Pettijohn)
Re: DOES LINUX SUCK (mlw)
�а�RH5.2�䴩���Ǽt�P��Network card? ("ronsu")
Re: Authentication w/PAP??? ("Daniel P. Fraga")
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From: Rick Moen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 08:21:20 GMT
[Followups set]
In comp.os.linux.setup MalkContent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: So Far, here, as with so many other posts on relative M$ Vs. Linux,
: I've seen all sorts of bitching, moaning, and crying
[huge amounts of drivel deleted]
Fuckhead.
Get this shit out of the technical newsgroups.
--
Cheers, The cynics among us might say: "We laugh,
Rick Moen monkeyboys -- Linux IS the mainstream UNIX now!
rick (at) linuxmafia.com MuaHaHaHa!" but that would be rude. -- Jim Dennis
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Delegating DNS resolving?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:17:53 +0000
Daniel Burr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all. I'm rather new to the world of DNS, so I'd thought I'd ask the
> world:
>
> I heard that it is possible to "delegate" DNS resolving, ie:
> registering an IP with the ISP in such a way that your server may run
> many subdomains on the same IP.
> For example:
>
> foo.bar is my domain
> grand is my server
>
> grand.foo.bar is registered as 203.3.45.9
>
> I want to set up many apache virtual servers (easy enough to do):
> orange, apple, pear, but all to the same IP. But I want to only have to
> change something on my computer each time a server goes up or down, but
> nothing on the ISP's computer.
>
> Do I use 'named' to handle this type of situation?
Yes, no problem. Just do it - it's all well documented.
Be aware that the DNS system is a distributed cache system, changes
take a finite time to propagate. You can set low TTLs but this is
antisocial.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anton Dischner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Really weird samba problem
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:52:06 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Sandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a share mounted on another Linux machine which contains Tcl/Tk
> programs. We'll call my machine A and the mounted machine B. Often,
> when I make changes in tcl files on B, when I run them on A, I get
> errors about missing close brackets. But when I run the same program on
> A, it works fine. I'm not sure, but running ntpdate on A (syncing my
> clock with internet time) seems to help. Originally the two machines
> had been about 20 minutes off, but I still had the problem when they
> were only a few seconds off. Also, smbumounting and smbmounting again
> fixes it as well.
>
> This is really weird, and makes for an unstable environment. Anyone
> know what to do about it?
>
> Thanks,
> - Ben
>
> PS. I am running standard installs of RedHat 5.1 on both machines (samba
> version is samba-1.9.18p5-1).
> PPS. Please Cc: to email. thanks
Hi Ben,
maybe you want to upgrade to brandnew Samba 2.0. I doubt it fixes your
problem but it's worth upgrading anyway.
Kind regards,
Toni
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From: Per Casten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux mit 128k Standleitung
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:06:04 +0100
Frage:
Hat Jemand Erfahrungen mit einer ISDN Standleitung (D64S2, also 128k)
und Linux (Suse 5.3 oder Suse 6.0) �ber Cisco-HDLC zum Provider ?
Als ISDN-Karte soll eine AVM Fritz zum Einsatz kommen.
Bitte dringend um Hilfe.
Danke
Per
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From: Larry Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Re: ip-up problem
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 08:39:09 -0400
Jonas wrote:
>
> I'm using LRP 2.9.4pre with the ppp.lrp package.
> I'm just interested in setting up a secure firewall between my home lan and
> the internet using one NIC and a modem.
> I want LRP to handle ppp dial on demand connection using pppd and the option
> demand.
>
> TIA /Jonas
LRP may be beyond the scope of your needs. Try the simple PPP server
setup described in /usr/doc/ppp-2.x.x/README.linux which uses proxyarp
and you can always set up ipfwadm rules in your rc.local.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SinGin)
Subject: weird telnet problems
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 02:46:41 GMT
Hello all:
I get weird lock up problems when users telnet from outside my router.
Telnet from the same side as my Slackware box shows no problems whatso
ever. It's not sluggish, but locks up when launching emacs w/o X11 or
"who", pine (but not mail), "ls", but not "ls -1". Any help would be
greatly appreciated since this problem has plagued me for a while now.
TIA
::::::
"The manual said the program required Windows 95 or
better, so I installed Linux." -Unknown
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From: "tbx... thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems loading lance.c driver module!
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:57:57 +0100
In my distribution (some strange LST 2.2) there was no driver for those
AMD Lance (79c961) ISA card. But I found a driver src file on
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/lance.c. I compiled as it is
explained at the bottom of the page. The compiling seemed to work since
the file lance.o came out - but either success nor error message was
reported... a little strange to me. The only thing I replaced on the gcc
command was -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet where I've put
-I/usr/src/linux/include because I only found the header files recquired
(linux/*.h and asm/*.h) in the src in that place and nowhere else.
So then I tried to load the module and then came out what you can see
here:
[root@pc2 /root]# insmod lance.o
lance32_probe1 undefined
Loading failed! The module symbols (from linux-2.0.29) don't match your
linux-2.0.29
[root@pc2 /root]#
What does that mean? It does not make sense - don't you think so too?
I'd be very grateful if someone could explain me what I did wrong and
how to solve that problem! Otherwise I can go and buy one of those cheap
ne.o cards of which I know that the driver works. On the other hand...
the card is there and wants to be used... I guess... thanx...
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From: Peter W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: inetd
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 07:26:47 -0500
Loren Brookes wrote:
> I have RedHat 5.2, everything works, but I get an error message in
> /var/log/messages when connecting to ppp.
>
> localhost inetd[1208]: execv /usr/sbin/in.identd: No such file or
> directory
>
> I don't have in.identd on my system, it is not part of the netkit-base
> rpm, that has inetd, so what is this file, and do I need it ?
identd does user-authentication, mainly for sendmail and IRC (authentication as
in the other server asks your machine what user is trying to send them mail or
connect to IRC). It's not a show-stopper, except maybe for IRC. Either install
the "pidentd" package or comment out that line in inetd.conf and restart inetd.
-Peter
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From: Peter W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: realy needs
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 07:30:59 -0500
Haaino Beljaars wrote:
> For some time I am searching for a program with a
> graphical userer interface, not netstat, with shows me all live
> connections to and from my machine. Can anybody direct me to such a
> program.
Maybe http://www-serra.unipi.it/~ntop/ ?
-Peter
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From: Mogens Kjaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hubs
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:30:12 +0100
Tundra wrote:
>
> I have seen much discussion over appropriate Ethernet
> cards for linux; but little on hubs. Is this simply b/c the hub is not subject to
>the same concerns of operability with Linux? I am a newbie to Linux (and networking
>in general) and in the materials on the net I have reviewed, I have not come across
>many such questions.
> Have I missed an appropriate FAQ or HOWTO on this topic?
>
> For example, if a d-link card is not supported by linux, does the same necessarily
>hold for the hub? Any recommendations on a fast etherlink 4 or 5 port hub and
>concomitant NICs? My primary concern would be ease of use by both Windows and Linux
>systems. Cost will not be the primary factor.Similar vendors of both would seem to
>make facial sense; but is this really a concern?.
The hub doesn't care what operating system you run on your machines.
I think all D-Link cards are supported by Linux.
Mogens
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: executing programs on nfs?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:44:57 GMT
Ben Sandler spoke these words of wisdom:
: I mounted an nfs share with rw permissions, and I am able to read and
: write fine, but I get "permission denied" when I try to execute any
: executables in that directory. This happens no matter who created the
: file or on which computer it was created. ls lists the file as world
: executable.
: Anyone know what's wrong?
: Both server and client are running RedHat 5.1 (with nfs 2.2beta29-5).
Hi,
did you supply an exec option when mounting, e.g. in fstab:
host1:/exportdisk /dosc nfs user,exec 1 1
Bye,
Mike
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From: Rodney Hendricks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: very small problem with cacheing nameserver
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:30:21 +0800
Omegaman wrote:
>
> I have a small lan with IP MASQ and a cacheing nameserver on the
> internet connected server machine. It all works pretty well. I can
> connect over the net from other machines on the lan without a problem.
> However, nslookup fails on those machines, but not on the connected
> server machine:
>
> $nslookup
> *** Can't find server name for address 192.168.1.3: Non-existent host/domain
> *** Default servers are not available
I can't believe it - i just fixed this problem this morning. You need
to stick a (reverse?) lookup entry for your nameserver. I now have a
forward and reverse entry for the internet connected machine, and things
work fine.
Rod
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From: Rodney Hendricks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Questions about NAMED at STARTUP
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:57:30 +0800
[D]�J wrote:
>
> When I check my /var/log/messages, I found the following lines. Is it
> possible to fix this problem?? if so.. how??
>
> Jan 13 22:14:55 djai named[344]: sysquery: sendto([192.203.230.10].53):
> Network is unreacheable
>
> Please Reply ASAP!! Thank You!!
Is it possible that named is starting before your network interfaces are
activated (esp. ppp0)?
If i remember correctly, named will try and find all root servers. But
i think there are ways around it. Check the latest DNS-Howto for more
on this topic (toward the end).
Oh - and that ip number just happens to be "E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET".
and 53 happens to be the domain query port.
Rod
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From: Rodney Hendricks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting up RH 5.2 for ip_forwarding
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:03:17 +0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> What do I put in my /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward file to enable
> ip_forwarding. I have a handy text editor, joe, for editing this.
>
> Also, it appears that one of the rc script files is set up to read this file.
> Do I need to do anything more to this file?
>
> Thanks,
>
> R O B E R T
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
Just stick a 1 in it, and ip_forwarding will be activated.
You may need to do this every time you boot, or place a line in one of
your start-up files like:
echo "1" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward.
Rod
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From: Rodney Hendricks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best place for...
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 23:17:50 +0800
Charles Stack wrote:
>
> Running RedHat 5.2 with IP Mascarade. Used linuxconfig to setup my ppp
> scripts (which can be started with usernet &).
hmm - i hate setup programs - save them for win95 :)
>
> Where is the best place to call a script that sets up IP Mascarade?
I stick mine in rc.local on a redhat machine - doesn't really do any
harm from what i can see (please correct me if i'm wrong ppls!).
I'd
> like this done at startup.
>
> My script looks like:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> /sbin/modprobe ip_masq_ftp
> /sbin/modprobe ip_masq_irc
Where's the quake patch? :)
>
> echo "1" >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p deny
> /sbin/ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.0.1/24 -D 0.0.0.0 #my Winblows machine
>
> Where is the best place to call script whenever ppp starts and stops?
>
> I though about /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down but I'm not sure it's
> being executed when called by the scripts setup with linuxconf.
Another reason i hate setup programs! Check out
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts - i think linuxconf modifies/uses those
scripts.
If you do it my way, create a sh script ip-up.local in /etc/ppp :
ip-up executes ip-up.local if it exists (and is executable - dont forget
to make it executable!) I use this method to sync my clock. But i'm
not sure if it works with linuxconf.
Rod
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: PPP logging frames! Why?
Date: 17 Jan 1999 22:35:40 -0600
Chuck Carlson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello all,
: I just upgraded to Netscape 4.5 and now it seems all tcp/ip frames are
: being logged to my var/log/messages file! It seems as if PPPD is running
: with the debug option but I'm not invoking it with that option.
: The var/log/messages file is getting huge and a lot of disk thrashing
: is happening.
: I'm running kernel 2.0.33 in Suse 5.2 distro.
See this recently. A message redirection line in /etc/syslog.conf
was logging everything in sight to /var/log/messages. Read up on
syslog.conf with "man syslog.conf" and you'll be able to fix it.
--
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From: "Perus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Finger info, hostname
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:05:06 +0200
I'd like to change the hostname length shown in finger in my linux system.
How do I do this?
Please, reply to group.
jusas
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From: Thorsten Kukuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 5.2/NIS/netgroups
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:24:22 GMT
Hello,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thorsten, I forgot to add that the netgroups we work with
> are very large, we have hierarchical netgroups, of 17,000 users.
If they are very large, you could send me your netgroup file,
and I will test it. It could be, that there are glibc problems
with bit netgroup files.
Thorsten
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cryptic answers and has a lot of things going on in the background.
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From: Gert Wollny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:15:14 +0000
Allan Olesen wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry) wrote:
>
> >That's less keystrokes than is needed to access the cdrom under dos.
> >Use your imagination.
>
> Wrong!
>
> Under dos, you don't use keystrokes to mount or unmount a cdrom.
but you also have to change to the drive ...
Say the script to mount the cdrom is called m and goes like this:
>>start
#!/bin/sh
# assuming the fstab entry to mount /dev/cdrom on /mnt/cdrom
mount /mnt/cdrom
cd /mnt/cdrom
<<end
then you need two keystrokes <m>+<ENTER> to get to the root directory of
the CDRom.
In DOS you need three:
<d>+<:>+<ENTER> #assuming d as the letter for your CDROM
And the winner by one keystroke is linuuuux!
And for the unmounting:
script u:
>>start
#!/bin/sh
cd
umount /mnt/cdrom
eject
<<end
makes two keystrokes, which is comparable to pressing the eject button
of the
cd-drive.
Anyway there is or will be an automount-function, which mounts the
appropriated device when you change to the directory, where the device
should be mounted.
Bye
Gert
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From: Kristofer Pettijohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Fax Server under Linux?
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:01:15 GMT
Nico Kadel-Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: It's at www.transcom.de/whfc: It is a Win32 based tool that interfaces
: with the HylaFAX daemon and handle print requests from the Win32 box
: as fax requests to the HylaFAX server. It works quite well, once it's
: installed.
I've use mgetty+sendfax package .. the Linux dial-in (Mgetty) works well
for the incoming faxes (As it also does data, fidonet, pppd, uucp, etc..),
and there is some information in the contribution directory of the package
on setting up the sendfax package to work within a network by printing to
a postscript printer from the remote machine to the fax server. It is
really nice.
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: DOES LINUX SUCK
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:47:46 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <77tc5e$dks$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >
>
> >With this kind of problems, on a stable release of the O/S, with a supported
> >product, it makes me really wonder
> >"Does LINUX SUCK ?"
>
> YES.
That is so you.
Why do you even bother coming to COLA if you do not wish to advocate?
Simply hanging around being negative is a text book example of a troll.
Is that what you want to do?
In all of your arguments against Linux, you have focussed the defense of
your opinion on the GUI alone. You have not once delved into process
management, memory management, architecture, networking, or the
programming model. Also, when ever you talk about applications, you use
the number of applications, not quality or spread of functionality. You
may say "the user does not care" but, the fact remains that these things
contribute to stability, scalability, and speed which are things the
user does care about.
There are, of course, GUI differences between Linux and Windows, there
are GUI differences between different Linux installs. This, IMO, is a
good thing. My computer does exactly what I want it to do, the way I
want it to do it. That is a good GUI, because that is what a GUI is
supposed to do.
As for applications. I can't think of a single thing that I would want
to do with the computer that would not be just as good or better done in
Linux than in Windows.
As for applications, I will take applix over M$ Office any day. It
always crashes, sometimes it even takes Windows NT with it. When I use
Applix, it just works. Perhaps the screen fonts may need just a little
work, but, the output is perfect and it does not crash. I will trade a
touch of aesthetics for stability/reliability any day.
Linux does not suck. If you like Windows, that's fine, good for you bob!
You, however, are the only one I know that says that. All my
acquaintances hate Windows with a passion. I am constantly being called
with questions or for help. You may have picked up by now that I am a
Windows NT driver guy. Working on Windows is sort of like being a Yugo
mechanic. I can fix it, I can add things to it, but hell I won't drive
it except to test it.
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From: "ronsu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: �а�RH5.2�䴩���Ǽt�P��Network card?
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:24:56 +0800
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From: "Daniel P. Fraga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Authentication w/PAP???
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:36:09 -0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> My sysadmin **thinks** they use PAP.
> I've heard the bit about switching to PAP after 'CONNNECT' from the
Take a look at the following link:
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