Linux-Networking Digest #48, Volume #10 Fri, 29 Jan 99 21:13:53 EST
Contents:
Re: Can I "tune" my PPP connection to reduce disconnects? (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist (meanie)
Re: Win98 not answering pings from RH 5.2 (spivey)
ppp interface not being deleted! ("Chris Eng")
Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist (Darren Greer)
Re: DHCP on linux and win 95 A (Stephen Carville)
Re: PPP 2.3.5: Connect to ISP ok, but cannot ping gateway: bad packets (Stefan
Huebner)
IP Accounting and 2.2.0 (Mark Moran)
ADSL question (Jeff Warrington)
Re: NTP on Linux (John Thompson)
3Com NIC Prob ("Mike Westman")
Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist (The Scot)
Re: demand dialing with pppd (Clifford Kite)
Re: PPP into linux box causes diald to bring up PPP out as well ("Simon Annetts")
diald - failed to set modem to controlling tty - help??? ("Simon Annetts")
Re: Samba over the internet ("Christopher G. Petty")
Which driver should I use? ("Brad Kittredge")
3c575 Cardbus card ("Joey")
Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist (Jay Copeland)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Can I "tune" my PPP connection to reduce disconnects?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:00:04 GMT
Chris Plachta ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello,
:
: I am running Redhat 5.1 on a Pentium 166 with a 33.6 data/fax modem. I
: have been having problems with my PPP connection disconnecting much too
: frequently. It only seems to happen at times that I am downloading
: something (a web page, a file using FTP, usenet news, etc) and it
: happens more frequently when I am really pushing the limits of my 33.6
: connection (e.g, if I am browsing the web AND ftp'ing files at the same
: time.)
:
: I was wondering if there are settings that I can tinker with to try and
: make this connection more robust?
The first step in troubleshooting any problem is to determine what the problem
is. You can tinker, but there's no guarantee that there is a setting that
will make the connection more robust.
So, start with the basics:
- why the the PPP disconnecting?
Look at /var/log/messages for clues. Some reasons that I've seen for
disconnects include:
- crappy modem
- crappy phone line
- crappy ISP modem
- crappy ISP
- Call-Waiting enabled on the modem phone line
Stu
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:17:32 -0500
From: meanie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist
Bow Shock Wave wrote:
> so just how easy is Red hat over Caldera, this will be a good topic.
>
> please reply
Caldera hands down because of ...
- a default install of ISO 9660
- LISA
- better instructions for getting PPPD running + inclusion of Xisp
I played for weeks with two versions of Red Hat 5.1 (official and the
Que 'Using Linux' version) and was at the point of dumping Linux
altogether. Before giving up I tried the OpenLite that came with Que.
Now it's Microsoft that might get tossed. For a newbie-newbie, Caldera
wins. It's to much to expect a really inexperienced user to manually
load modules or recompile kernels just to access the CD-ROM drive the
damn thing installed on.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (spivey)
Subject: Re: Win98 not answering pings from RH 5.2
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:56:27 GMT
>>Hi!
>>
>>I've installed a LAN with a Win98 machine (/w 3c905b-tx) and a Redhat 5.2
>(/w
>>3c509), connected via a 10mbit Hub. Win98 is 192.168.1.1 (nmask
>>255.255.255.0) and no other entries. Linux machine is 192.168.1.2 (nmask
>>255.255.255.0), with a route to the 192.168.1.0 net, the Win98 machine
>>entered in 'hosts' and it's hardware adress added to the ARP table.
>Whenever
>>I try to ping the Win98 machine, it doesn't answer. I can see the outgoing
>>pins on my hub, but Win98 sends out packets only every few seconds (who
>knows
>>where to??). After some flood-pings, netstat -e said that Win98 received
>>3.6mb of data, but send out only 30K.
>>
>>I've spend hours rebooting Win98, but he still doesn't answer pings. Is
>this a
>>Win98 problem or do I have to add any specific routes/gateways to Win98?
>>
>i have this same problem when I setup my network, for I know that I am very
>sure all the necessary setup is OK. I later found the problem is in the
>linux side. By default 3c509 is loaded up using irq 10...check wheteher
>there is an irq conflict...as for my case linux didn;t tell me that irq 10
>is used by my display card, so thee were no complain. If this is the case
>make sure you use irq which is available and everything should be fine. Hope
>this help
>
Just wondering, what happened when you pinged your ip and
loopback?
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From: "Chris Eng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: ppp interface not being deleted!
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:06:48 -0500
after upgrading from the 2.0.35 kernel to 2.2.0, when
i run '/sbin/ppp/ppp-off', the ppp0 interface is still
listed if i run 'ifconfig -a'. i have a bunch of
scripts that use the output of 'ifconfig -a' to
determine whether i am online or not, and this is
messing those scripts up. before updating the kernel
the ppp0 interface would ONLY be present if the modem
was connected to the ISP.
does anybody have any ideas why this might be
happening?
thanks,
chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Greer)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:34:28 GMT
Get SuSE.....www.suse.com
It has a _very_ easy install....and its configuration program (YaST)
is very easy to use, and allows for may things such as network, ppp,
printing, etc to be set up fast and easy.
DrGreer
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:21:12 -0500, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-->Being a pre-newbie, looking to get involved with Linus. Which flavor would
-->be the best to get involved with.
-->
-->Current skillset M$ NT/98/95 using a NT4 network, DHCP, TCP/IP.....
-->
-->
-->Need to make a stable internal email server of which the 25 windows 95/98
-->outlook97 client users can access internal email as well as external 'isp'
-->email.
-->
-->Right now I am using a Windows 95 machine
--> internal email : microsoft mail (25 users)
--> external email access: 602 internet server
-->(unstable and has to reboot frequently....as usual with MS)
-->
-->
-->Was thinking Caldera or Redhat....not sure though.
-->
-->Thank you for your time
-->Jason
-->
-->please email me at:
-->[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-->
-->
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:22:45 -0800
From: Stephen Carville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DHCP on linux and win 95 A
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Bob wrote:
I want to log on with linux to GTE ADSL. They vehemently
persecute linux
users--you have to lie and say you're running either w95
or w98. They say
w95 works better. They say w98 can't receive all the info,
nameservers
I think. I have linux 2.2.0 with dhcpcd 1.3.17-pl2 and I
know about the
-h username option. One person in this newsgroup says he
runs linux with
dhcp on GTE ADSL, log on fine. That's hopeful, but I'm
looking at your
conversation about difference between w95 and linux, and
wonderring
if that static route thing is anything for me as a linux
client logging on?
That "policy" is the property of GTE Internet. My "sources" tell me
GTE has some kind of
agreement with MS that restricts the range of platforms GTE Internet
can provide services to. It
probably has to do with GTE "branded" version of Internet Explorer.
UNfortunately, GTE
doesn't tell you this up front so they create an illusion that ADSL
only works with NT95.
However, the PUC frowns mightily on a Telco offering a service only
through it's own subsidiaries
so there are other ISP's that offer service using GTE DSL lines. For
a list of participating
providers go to:
http://www.gte.com/dsl/partisp.html
I found California Prime Line very helpful and accommodating. I
signed up for "silver" service
(384k/384k) and I get a fixed IP address, two mailboxes and a UNIX
shell account. I made
certain they knew I an running Linux and I was told that as long as I
can get a NIC card up and
running on a network, they don't care. I think CPL is primarily a
provider to small business so they
are probably used to working with what the customer wants rather than
dictating what the
customer must have.
One of their bludgeon boys screamed and ranted that only
windows95,98
or NT will work. One correspondent here says it's only a
policy, not
based on a problem, but that they're rabid about it.
The answer is to not use GTE as your ISP. GTE the Telco shuffles bit
around in exchange for
money. It doesn't matter to them where those bits originate. It is
GTE the ISP that is staffed with
so many of the Illegitimate Offspring of Syphilitic Sows.
[snip]
--
Stephen Carville
---------------------------------------------------------------
Civilization, as we know it today, owes it's existence to the
engineers. These are the men who, down the long centuries, have
learned to exploit the properties of matter and the sources of power
for the benefit of mankind.
L. Sprague DeCamp
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<BR>Bob wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE> I want to log on with linux to GTE ADSL. They vehemently
persecute linux
<BR> users--you have to lie and say you're running either w95 or
w98. They say
<BR> w95 works better. They say w98 can't receive all the info, nameservers
<BR> I think. I have linux 2.2.0 with dhcpcd 1.3.17-pl2 and I know
about the
<BR> -h username option. One person in this newsgroup says he runs
linux with
<BR> dhcp on GTE ADSL, log on fine. That's hopeful, but I'm looking
at your
<BR> conversation about difference between w95 and linux, and wonderring
<BR> if that static route thing is anything for me as a linux client
logging on?</BLOCKQUOTE>
That "policy" is the property of GTE Internet. My "sources" tell
me GTE has some kind of
<BR>agreement with MS that restricts the range of platforms GTE Internet
can provide services to. It
<BR>probably has to do with GTE "branded" version of Internet Explorer.
UNfortunately, GTE
<BR>doesn't tell you this up front so they create an illusion that ADSL
only works with NT95.
<P>However, the PUC frowns mightily on a Telco offering a service only
through it's own subsidiaries
<BR>so there are other ISP's that offer service using GTE DSL lines.
For a list of participating
<BR>providers go to:
<P> <A
HREF="http://www.gte.com/dsl/partisp.html">http://www.gte.com/dsl/partisp.html</A>
<P>I found California Prime Line very helpful and accommodating.
I signed up for "silver" service
<BR>(384k/384k) and I get a fixed IP address, two mailboxes and a UNIX
shell account. I made
<BR>certain they knew I an running Linux and I was told that as long as
I can get a NIC card up and
<BR>running on a network, they don't care. I think CPL is primarily
a provider to small business so they
<BR>are probably used to working with what the customer wants rather than
dictating what the
<BR>customer must have.
<BLOCKQUOTE> One of their bludgeon boys screamed and ranted that
only windows95,98
<BR> or NT will work. One correspondent here says it's only a policy,
not
<BR> based on a problem, but that they're rabid about it.</BLOCKQUOTE>
The answer is to not use GTE as your ISP. GTE the Telco shuffles
bit around in exchange for
<BR>money. It doesn't matter to them where those bits originate.
It is GTE the ISP that is staffed with
<BR>so many of the Illegitimate Offspring of Syphilitic Sows.
<P>[snip]
<P>-- <IMG SRC="cid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" HEIGHT=64 WIDTH=60
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<BR>Stephen Carville
<HR WIDTH="100%">Civilization, as we know it today, owes it's existence
to the engineers. These are the men who, down the long centuries, have
learned to exploit the properties of matter and the sources of power for
the benefit of mankind.
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From: Stefan Huebner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP 2.3.5: Connect to ISP ok, but cannot ping gateway: bad packets
Date: 29 Jan 1999 23:28:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
With great help from usenet and a lot of dialup attempts with different isp's
I was able to fix it:
I simply changed the ppp option "crtscts" to "xonxoff".
Now it runs just fine :)
This is real weird because I didn't change any modem-settings and the modem
still runs in hardware handshaking mode when the connection is up...
bye,
Stefan.
--
Stefan Huebner
Munich, Germany
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.blunote.muc.de
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Moran )
Subject: IP Accounting and 2.2.0
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:59:13 GMT
I've upgraded to kernel 2.2.0 which also required me to drop ipfwadm
and adopt ipchains for my ip masq'ing. I used to do accounting on the
inbound of my one interface:
ipfwadm - A in -a -D XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
A simple ipfwadm -A -l -x -n used to give me an output of the number
of bytes transferred. I can't seem to accomplish this with ipchains.
I've setup the:
ipchains -N acctin
ipchains -I input -j acctin -d XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
But ipchains -L does list any byte count???????????
Mark Moran
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mmoran.com/
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From: Jeff Warrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ADSL question
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:56:39 -0800
I was wondering if it was possible for two
people with ADSL modems and connections on
two separate lines to somehow merge the
two lines and modems to increase bandwith
in some sort of load balancing?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Jeff Warrington
Currently "Between Opportunities"
Hire me! http://www.bossanova.com/~jaydub/resume
Read this! http://slashdot.org
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NTP on Linux
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:27:12 -0500
John Brookes wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I need to get NTP up on my box. I've heard I need XNTP, but I can't find
> it anywhere. Does anyone know where to find it, or do you have an
> alternative method?
I found xntp3-5.93-4.i386.rpm on rufus.w3.org
I haven't managed to get it to work with the time server on my other
machine, though...
:-(
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Mike Westman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3Com NIC Prob
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:33:47 -0600
Please help
I've got an ix86 box setup up with a 3c509 NIC
This NIC was working prefectly in a prior install but now when I try to
originate data (ping etc) from the console I get the error
eth0: trigger_send() called with the transmitter busy
Please help
Pentium 166
32meg RAM
2.0 GB HDD
3c509 NIC
Generic modem
PCI Video
NIC support compolied into kernel
IFCONFIG repoting incoming packets but 0 outgoing.
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From: The Scot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 01:09:14 GMT
> On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:21:12 -0500, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Being a pre-newbie, looking to get involved with Linus. Which flavor would
> >be the best to get involved with.
> >
> >Current skillset M$ NT/98/95 using a NT4 network, DHCP, TCP/IP.....
> >
> >
> >Need to make a stable internal email server of which the 25 windows 95/98
> >outlook97 client users can access internal email as well as external 'isp'
> >email.
> >
> >Right now I am using a Windows 95 machine
> > internal email : microsoft mail (25 users)
> > external email access: 602 internet server
> >(unstable and has to reboot frequently....as usual with MS)
> >
> >
> >Was thinking Caldera or Redhat....not sure though.
> >
> >Thank you for your time
> >Jason
> >
> >please email me at:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
Hey Jason,
I installed RedHat a few months ago and found it really easy to install from
my windows hard disk. The installation detected all my hardware and I just
chose my monitor type etc from easy menus... However, I the foolish haggis
eater that I am forgot the root password, so a coule of weeks ago I installed
Caldera 1.3
I did try installing redhat again but it wouldn't play with my soundblaster
CDROM drive.
So Caldera... easy install, worked with my cdrom. At the end you go into
XF86Setup to configure the GUI. Using this was slightly harder for me, than
the redhat method (just select the monitor and stuff from menu) but it wasn't
too bad. I've been happy with Caldera so far, and the fact it comes with the
KDE Desktop is a big bonus I think, KDE is very easy intuitive and just fun
to use. Though you could install KDE on redhat too, it just isn't there by
default. Its nice to have KDE straight out of the box.
Do any of your mates run linux? If you know people who do it may be helpful
to go for the distrib they run since they'll have done it before. There does
seem to be slightly more install support by way of mailing lists etc for
redhat, but caldera is pretty easy.
I would have a look at both, and go with your instinct. I don't think you'll
lose out with either.
Just my humble opinion, even though I'm a linux newbie I thought I could
answer your question...
Let us know what happens.
Cheers!
Dom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: demand dialing with pppd
Date: 28 Jan 1999 17:29:48 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Thank you Simon. And thank you Clifford Kite.
: I've been fighting this problem for a while (admitted longer than I should
: have been). I had figured out that the ppp.c was not getting copied and that
: was the problem. I hadn't gone so far as to determine the fix.
: I decided to take one last look through DejaNews before I was going to post a
: "what's the next step" email.
That's the way it's supposed to work!
Just wish it happened that way more often.
--
Clifford Kite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not a guru. (tm)
/* Better is the enemy of good enough. */
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From: "Simon Annetts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP into linux box causes diald to bring up PPP out as well
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:03:49 -0000
Can't help with no 1.
No 2.
Try using the diald fifo (it accepts commands to bring up the link,
terminate etc.)
Change the group and perms on the fifo file so the web server can write to
it and
add commands to the file on stdout from your script.
Look in the config.h file in the source to see where this file will reside.
Regards
Simon Annetts
>On another note, I want to be able to offer certain admin tasks (of
>which ppp-on and ppp-off are examples) as options on the embryonic
>company intranet through the use of cgi-scripts to kick off the
>appropriate commands. However, a lot of these commands seem to require
>the user to be root. I don't want to run the webserver as root, because
>that seems to much like asking for it, but I can't find any way to
>execute these commands otherwise (the setuid permission to make the
>effective user root when a script is run doesn't seem to help any). As
>a last resort I'm going to try piping the password into the su program
>in one of the scripts (what a pity that I can't just pass it on the
>command line, let me guess, that would be a security hole wouldn't it?)
>but if anyone has a more elegant solution I'd like to hear it!
>
>Thanks a lot
>Colum
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From: "Simon Annetts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: diald - failed to set modem to controlling tty - help???
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:17:18 -0000
I have ppp-2.3.5 setup on my slackware 3.5 (2.0.34 kernel) and all works if
I start ppp manually (ppp-on etc)
I have diald compiled and installed and it runs fine when there is no
traffic.
As soon as some traffic hits sl0 (a ping request) I get this message in the
logs:
diald[7104]: filter accepted rule 25 proto 1 len 60 packet x.x.x.x,0 =>
y.y.y.y,0
diald[7104]: failed to set modem to controlling tty: Operation not permitted
diald[7104]: Diald is dieing with code 1
Here is my diald.conf
pppd-options 172.18.1.135:0.0.0.0
accounting-log /var/log/diald.log
fifo /tmp/admin/diald
debug 7D
device /dev/modem
-daemon
connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/chatconnect"
disconnect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/chatdisconnect"
lock
speed 57600
modem
crtscts
local 172.18.1.135
remote 172.18.1.1
dynamic
netmask 255.255.255.0
# reroute
defaultroute
addroute /etc/ppp/proxy-up
delroute /etc/ppp/proxy-down
ip-up /etc/ppp/ip-up
ip-down /etc/ppp/ip-down
include /etc/standard.filter
The modem is on /dev/ttyS1, I've tried /dev/modem /dev/cua1 and /dev/ttyS1
in the conf file, all are the same. pppd/chat seem happy, why not
diald/chat?
Any help much appreciated!!
Simon Annetts
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From: "Christopher G. Petty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba over the internet
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:21:12 -0500
Glen:
Maybe if you could get Samba to bind to ports other than the netbios ports and
above the "privelaged" ports (i.e. something over 4000), and if you can get
Winblows to accept port numbers in the servername definitions (i.e.
\\a.b.c.d:pppp\sharename) you might get it to work.. Of course, I can't see any
way to do that in the manpages for smb.conf, so you might have to tweak the code
and recompile on the Samba side, BUT if Winblows will let you define the port as
well, it might work...
Of course this assumes you have admin access on the Linux box in question...
Just a thought.
_CGP
Glen Parker wrote:
> >I have a Red Hat 5.1 machine running samba flawlessly thus far.
> >However, I want to export a directory across the internet. Three main
> >questions:
> >1) Is there a quick and dirty method of making the directory mountable
> >on another machine (win95) given both machines have a full time
> >internet connection and real ip's. At this level I'm not concerned
> >about security. I just want to get it running and see it work. ie.
> >what else do I need to do/get/configure/??? The samba man pages don't
> >mention doing this as far as I can see.
>
> You shouldn't need to do anything special on the linux end, provided you
> actually have access to the netbios ports and all that. On the Win98, you
> *should* be able to connect by entering
> \\<dns host name>\<share name>
> in the explorer url box. If you can't use a domain name, you could also use
> a raw IP address.
>
> Oh wait, you'll most likely need to turn on password encryption on the samba
> server (man smb.conf to get started). Win98 won't transmit clear-text
> passwords I don't believe.
>
> >2) What are the security issues with method 1) above and how might they
> >be addressed?
>
> >3) If samba won't what will and be readable to a win95 client without
> >$$$added software?
>
> Glen
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From: "Brad Kittredge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Which driver should I use?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:55:18 -0800
Oh wise ones...
I have an AEF-330TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter in my box that I'd like to
use for Linux networking. Unfortunately, no Linux driver came with the
card, and I cannot find the chip that this card uses in any documentation.
It's sold my Hawking Technologies, and seems to work wonderfully in
Windows98. I believe the I/O is D400-D4FF and the irq is 10, but I have no
idea which driver to use. Any help/advise would be appreciated.
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From: "Joey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: 3c575 Cardbus card
Date: 29 Jan 1999 00:35:44 GMT
Hello,
I have a 3c575 3Com CB ethernet card installed on my Toshiba laptop. When I
run '/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start' my machine hangs. This is right after
it says 'Using DHCP for eth0'. I have tried this with a static ip and also
with the card not plugged into the network but still same thing.
Any suggestions?
Email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] :)
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From: Jay Copeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:30:05 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Being a pre-newbie, looking to get involved with Linus. Which flavor would
> be the best to get involved with.
>
> Current skillset M$ NT/98/95 using a NT4 network, DHCP, TCP/IP.....
>
> Need to make a stable internal email server of which the 25 windows 95/98
> outlook97 client users can access internal email as well as external 'isp'
> email.
>
> Right now I am using a Windows 95 machine
> internal email : microsoft mail (25 users)
> external email access: 602 internet server
> (unstable and has to reboot frequently....as usual with MS)
>
> Was thinking Caldera or Redhat....not sure though.
>
> Thank you for your time
> Jason
>
> please email me at:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
slackware and a few books.
jay
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