Linux-Networking Digest #687, Volume #10         Wed, 31 Mar 99 06:13:55 EST

Contents:
  Re: slack 3.6 & 3Com 3c509 install (Vero Anderson)
  Re: NFS problems with Linux 2.2.x server, freebsd client (Leslie Mikesell)
  Re: Cards working but no connect (Jack Beatty)
  Re: PPP permissions (Bill Unruh)
  Re: trying to route a home LAN to the Net (Brian McCauley)
  Re: Anyone using MediaOne? (Doug O'Leary)
  Re: How to link two PCs via ethernet cards (Jack Beatty)
  Re: HELP!! Final attempt at Samba installation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: using DNS server(named) and external dns server. ("Robin Imrie")
  Re: Denver Area LINUX Consultant Wanted (houghi)
  Re: CONNECTING TO ISP WITH LINUX ("Windows95NOT!")
  Re: SAMBA/PASSWORDS (Bob Nixon)
  Intel EtherExpress NIC (tintal)
  Re: Epson Stylus Color II + Samba 2.0.3 (Redhat 5.9 Linux) = no print (Horst Simon)
  Re: am-utils (amd) & smbfs (smbmount)  -- automount frustation (Harald Fuchs)
  Re: Epson Stylus Color II + Samba 2.0.3 (Redhat 5.9 Linux) = no print (Horst Simon)
  2nd CFV: comp.os.linux.security (Jeremy Billones)

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From: Vero Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: slack 3.6 & 3Com 3c509 install
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 00:55:23 -0800


Are you sure about that subnet mask?  I've never seen a subnet mask that
didn't start with 255.255.255.x ...

The easiest way to get the card detected is to uncomment the line:

/sbin/modprobe 3c509  

in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules.

-Vero.

On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, WarGod wrote:

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have currently Slackware 3.6, kernel 2.035, 3Com 3c509b TPO Etherlink II,
> cable modem with permanent internet access and static IP.
> 
> I readed the HOWTO's and some info about it. I did all what i could. I
> recompied the kernel with 3c509 support,
> I ifconfig the device, add route , insmod, modprobe and editing many files
> like rc.modules.
> 
> can someone give me an example of setting up the eth0 3c509 please?
> 
> If you please show all needed steps from the start with examples and good
> syntax so i can check what i'm doing wrong
> 
> IP :                         195.66.26.238
> Subnet Mask :       255.255.248.0
> Network Address : 195.66.24.0
> Default gw :             195.66.24.4
> Secondary gw :        195.66.24.5
> Domain        :             rotterdam.quicknet.nl
> DNS:                        195.66.24.5,     195.66.24.4
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: NFS problems with Linux 2.2.x server, freebsd client
Date: 29 Mar 1999 21:03:59 -0600

In article <7deqfc$l30$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>The data is nothing but static HTML or media -- very cachable. It's the
>*volume* of data that's the problem -- there is simply too much of it to
>reside on any single machine, which means some sort of lookup involved in
>figuring out which backend box to proxy for.  The structure of the data is
>essentially several million directories, all residing under a common "root"
>(in actuality, there are several layers of hashing going on, but the logical
>structure is that described).

The next question is how frequently requests are repeated.  If you
have such a vast number of possibilities and the requests are essentially
random, a cache may not be able to help.  On the other hand if you
have a large percentage of repeated popular requests it could make
a big difference if you can tune the cache to only hold the popular
ones so the lookup is quicker.

>> If it is, you can generate appropriate Expires: and/or Cache-control: headers
>> on the initial output and insert caching proxies either ahead of or behind the
>> load balancers.
>
>Well, the proxies would have to be behind *some* load balancing harware (they
>all must answer requests sent to a single IP address).

Not necessarily. If there is any structure at all to the requests
you could do client-side redirects from a server on the primary
address to force the client to send the query to a server with
the correct smaller subset of the data (or cluster of servers).
Apache's mod_rewrite handles this task pretty well.

>> Squid running in accel mode is very fast at delivering cached pages and
>> needs next-to nothing in the way of configuration to make it do
>> the right thing.
>
>Unfortunately, Squid dies a horrible death under heavy load, and the ICMP
>"cache-sharing" protocol it claims to have is complete bunk.  We tried that
>solution several months ago, and it is (unfortunately) unworkable in this
>scenario.

I think expecting the cache-sharing to be faster than an NFS file
lookup is a little too much to ask.  However, squids working separately
on smaller subsets might work well even if they all fall through to
the same orginal backend server.

>I really don't think there's any way around the problem except to develop a
>custom proxy.  Nobody else seems to be pushing anywhere near as much data as
>this site is, and so none of the 'standard' proxy solutions are up to par.

Perhaps, if you can't split the job on boundaries that conventional
programs can handle.   But back to the NFS-related issues that started
this topic.  Did you investigate the coda file system which claims
better client-side caching than NFS?

   Les Mikesell
     [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Jack Beatty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cards working but no connect
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:32:38 -0500

William Cameron wrote:

> Hello,
>
>    I have a Linux Box that I am trying use a webserver and I want to use
> windows 98 as web browser client.  I have both cards in both machines.
> Each ping their own particular IP address correctly but do not recognize
> each other.  I have added the other card IP address to my hosts file.
> I don't know how to do the equivilant in Windows 98.  I seems that both
> machines now the network card is there but refuse to answer (respond to
> ping) the other machine.
>
> I think something is not configured correctly.  I am referecing various,
> HOWTOs but none seem to indicate how to configure Win 98 to communicate
> with each other.
>
> I have tried running through the hub and also direct connecting.
>
> Any suggestions appreciated,
> William Cameron

Have you added the adapter for the network card and the tcp protocol that's
bound to that
adapter.  If you only have a dialup adapter it won't work.  Or only one tcp
protocol that's
bound to the dial-up adapter.  You need two of each, one for dial-up
adapter and one
for the network card.  As far as the host file is concerned.  There should
be a sample hosts
file in your c:\windows directory (hosts.sam).  Copy/rename this to hosts
and add you
appropriate network host names.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Re: PPP permissions
Date: 30 Mar 1999 03:29:06 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

]I can't figure out how to give normal users access to the Internet. 
]I've created a script that runs my connect command, and put it in
]/usr/bin.  I tried it, and as a normal user it said that PPP wasn't part
]of the kernel (which was absurd, of course, because I could log on to
]the internet with no problems as root).  So I scoured dejanews a little

That is pppd's default error message when anything goes wrong. 

a) chmod a+rx <yourscript>
chmod a+rx /usr/sbin/pppd
chmod a+rx /usr/sbin/pppd
That should do it.
What is your connect command?
Are you running kerneld?

What distribution are you using?
What is your script?


]bit, and came up with some things that didn't work, such as chmod 4755
]pppd and chmod 666 /dev/modem and chmod 4755 /dev/modem.  I've also run
]across some posts describing a pppd.users file in /etc, but I didn't get
]enough info to try creating it myself.  Anyone know how to get normal
]users access to the internet?  And on a side note, anyone know what
]permissions are default for /etc/ppp/pppd and /dev/modem, since I would
]like to set them back to what they were originally.  And is there a way
]to shut down the connection to the Internet without having to do ps,
]then kill the process number?

killall pppd


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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: trying to route a home LAN to the Net
Date: 31 Mar 1999 08:41:48 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hannu) writes:

> If I understand this correct, I don't need a route command at all, 
> the IP forwarding/masquerading will do all?

That is correct, you do not need to touch the routing table on the
Linux box that is acting as a gateway.

You do need to specify the Linux box as the default gateway on all the
other machines on the LAN.  This is, in effect, issuing a route command
on those boxes.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug O'Leary)
Subject: Re: Anyone using MediaOne?
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:57:56 -0600

[This followup was posted to comp.os.linux.networking and a copy was sent 
to the cited author.]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Running Linux 2.2.3 and MediaOne express here in the northeast with no
> problems (so far). I'm using dhcpcd from the dhcpcd-1.3.16.tar.gz
> package. No rebuilding necessary, just used the binary that's in the
> package as is.
> 

Hi;

Are you giving any special arguments to dhcp when you're running it?  
I've been reading that I should be supplying a host name with a -h 
option; however, no combination of hostname, -r, or fully qualified 
domain name seems to work with kernel ver 2.0.36 and dhcp ver 070.  

I'm beginning to think that I'll have to get kernel ver 2.2.3; however, 
that seems like a bit of overkill to me...

Thanks.

Doug

-- 
==============
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Senior System Admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jack Beatty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to link two PCs via ethernet cards
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:37:18 -0500

Jing Duan wrote:

> I am new to Linux.
>
> I have two computers, one for Windows95, the other for Linux.  I have Intel
> EtherExpress Pro 10+ cards on both computers, and linked with RJ45.  I know
> my LAN works.
>
> I want to know how to setup the Linux machine so that I can share files
> between the computers.  I am running Slackware 3.6.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Jing Duan

Use samba, you can share files and printers.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP!! Final attempt at Samba installation
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:56:07 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Gerhard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John,
>
> You are obviously very frustrated and disappointed.  And believe me I had a
> hard time getting Samba to work as well, but a lot of good people here were
> very helpful.
>
> Your decision to build a network where the server has a different OS from
> the workstations was a courageous one, but you must have been aware of the
> inherent complications in such a setup.
>
>   To construct a network of 4 machines, 3 of which are running Microsoft
> OS's, NT Workstation would have been a much better choice as server in my
> opinion.  I do this at home and it works just fine.  Presumably you have no
> need to establish a domain with logon security for the workstations.
>
> I notice that your operating system experience does not include Unix, and
> that may be part of the problem as well.
>
> Even with a default configuration of Samba you should be able to see your
> server in Network Neighborhood or with the net view command.  You may not be
> able to access it though.  If you don't see your server, there are
> underlying IP problems.
>
> If you see it, but you can't access it, then you either have to disable
> encrypted passwords on your Windows machines or enable it on the server.
> The latter is recommended.  My solution was much simpler, I simply told
> Samba to use the Domain Controller for password validation.
>
> Finally, a good book to consult is Samba by John D. Blair, published by SSC.
> However there is plenty of good documentation on the web as well.  Other
> messages have already referred you to those sites.
>
> Gerhard
>
>

actually, it was not SUCH a big deal in the end setting it up in my
experience. i think the best advice is to go step by step by step - can you
connect from one machine to the other ( ping etc ok?) can you see the server
from the clients? etc... there is a DIAGNOSIS.txt with most
samba-distributions i have seen - it descibes the steps and what can go wrong
in , i think, plain understandable words, and hints what to do or check
next... try not to expect THE ONE BIG RESULT in just one step

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From: "Robin Imrie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: using DNS server(named) and external dns server.
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:30:28 +0100

>If you're intending to cache hits that you aren't a master for, make
>sure you've put the "forwarding" parameter somewhere in named.boot (or
>whatever your named cfg file is).  This is slightly different for
>bind-4 and bind-8.  For 4, just put in "forwarders 1.2.3.4" replacing
>1.2.3.4 with the ip address of the other DNS server.

is the forward performed by the local dns server or the client?

My local DNS server can't do a forward as it doen't has access to the
network, but it could if I knew how to set it up so that it used the poxy
server, another issue I guess.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (houghi)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,apana.lists.os.linux.redhat,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.linux.isp
Subject: Re: Denver Area LINUX Consultant Wanted
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:48:46 GMT

On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:02:23 +0000, Wayne Chunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>--------------79237AE82777442C45288372
>Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
><!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
><html>

Some people use pine!

Please turn of HTML. If you do not know how to do this,
take a look at http://www.ping.be/houghi/nohtml

To filter out these messages, killfilter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To mail me delete the html

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From: "Windows95NOT!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CONNECTING TO ISP WITH LINUX
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:05:30 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Modem - Us Robotics Sportster
> SuSE ver 5.1
>
> When connecting to my isp, the line terminates a few seconds after  I connect
> with a message "ppd daemon died unexpectedly" I have written scripts like
> 'expect' ogin.. send ...  but still not successful.  Can anyone please show
> me a tried and tested way of connecting without any hassle?
>
> Thanks
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own

When you get the ppp daemon died unexpectedly error did it say why? The first
thing I can think of is that maybe you have a problem with the ppp
configuration. Say possibly an incorrect dns or maybe a mistyped password. Can
you connect to other dial in sources?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Nixon)
Subject: Re: SAMBA/PASSWORDS
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 06:37:35 GMT

On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:41:37 +0200, Andrzej Filip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>phil morle wrote:
>
>> I have setup SAMBA with Linux so that I can successfully browse Network
>> Neighborhood in Win98 and see the Linux box...  when I go to map a network
>> drive I am asked for a password.  Each time I give it it tells me that the
>> password is wrong... any ideas?
>
>samba uses its own passwords, use smbpasswd to change it for yourself

Sorry to butt in but I'm having the same common problem as this fellow
and probably many others.

This is what happens when I try to give linux a passwd.

smbpasswd
Unknown parameter encountered: "domain controller"
Ignoring unknown parameter "domain controller"
Old SMB password:
New SMB password:
Retype new SMB password:
smbpasswd: machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the session request. Error was :
code 131.

IOW, what's the drill for creating the /ect/samba.d/smbpasswd?
Does the file need some initial entries with the domain controller and
user names. Mine is blank with the exception of this. (below)

# Samba SMB password file

I tried faking it and adding something like:

root xycnjdkl
joeblow djskfjsjds

My Samba works (/tmp), except getting into the real /root and /home
directories from the two wintel boxes (wrong password). Mounting the
NT and 98 shares is no problem FROM linux. The NT printer also works
fine on linux. However, as I said, the real linux dirs are password
protected and not accessible 'from' the Wintel boxes.

TIA.




  Bob Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
�  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.home.net/bigrex/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tintal)
Subject: Intel EtherExpress NIC
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 09:01:17 GMT

I have a problem configuring Intel EtherExpress NIC in RedHat 5.2.
During installation process the card was recognized by computer (I
have P75 with 96M RAM). I could ping localhost and another machines 
in network. After reboot, computer got stack and I could boot it in
single user mode only. After removing S10network from /etc/rc.d/rc3.d
OS was loaded. Interface lo was activated manually and worked well,
any effort to activate interface eth0 was not successful. I tried to
append settings of NIC to lilo boot configuration, but it didn't
worked. Linux recognizes settings of NIC (IRQ, I/O) but can't use
them. 
May be somebody can help me to solve this problem
Thanks in advance.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Horst Simon)
Crossposted-To: linux.samba,linux.redhat.misc,comp.protocols.smb,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus Color II + Samba 2.0.3 (Redhat 5.9 Linux) = no print
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:19:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have exactly the same problem, after upgrading to Samba 2.0.3. It
worked perfect in Samba 1.9.18. My printer statement in the smb.conf
is:

[printers]
  comment = All Printers
  path = /var/spool/samba
  browseable = no
  guest ok = no
  writeable = no
  printable = yes

Regards,
Horst Simon


On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:17:18 -0800, "Loren Cook"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I can't remember how mine is setup exactly but I think the printer section
>format in smb.conf is more like:
>
>        [printers]
>                    path = /usr/spool/public
>                    writeable = no
>                    guest ok = yes
>                    printable = yes
>
>
>ICeeQueue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:01be7afa$1f729c10$1c0b5e18@workstation...
>> Hello all...
>> I'm having difficulties printing to my Samba networked printer from my
>> Windows NT Workstation SP4.  The printer is physically connected to my
>> Linux box, and is /dev/lp0 and lpd is running and everything.  Below is my
>> SMB.CONF file that SWAT has created for me:
>>
< cut>

>> [Epson Stylus Color II]
>> path = /tmp
>> print ok = Yes
>> ==================
>> I can see the shares and use the mounted directories, and I added the
>> printer with "Epson Stylus Color ESC/P2" driver from Windows NT 4.0.  The
>> Linux printtool I configured as "Epson Stylus Color - any".  I also tried
>> the Uniprint driver but that didn't work.
>>
>> If anyone can help me, it would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thank you. :)
>>
>
>


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From: Harald Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: am-utils (amd) & smbfs (smbmount)  -- automount frustation
Date: 31 Mar 1999 12:11:49 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Steve Levitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Trying to automount NT (host name=cc90014-a) folder g:\public (share
> name=public) on mountpoint /mnt/cc90014-a/public.

> Here's my latest stab at the auto.* files...

> [root@levits03 steve]# cat /etc/auto.master
> /mnt/cc90014-a/public   file /etc/auto.cc90014-a
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This should be "/mnt/cc90014-a".  auto.master contains only directory
names, not names of mountpoints.

> [root@levits03 steve]# cat /etc/auto.cc90014-a
> public -fstype=smbfs ://cc90014-a/g
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This should be "//cc90014-a/public".  smbmount needs the name of the
share, not on which disk it happens to reside.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Horst Simon)
Crossposted-To: linux.samba,linux.redhat.misc,comp.protocols.smb,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Epson Stylus Color II + Samba 2.0.3 (Redhat 5.9 Linux) = no print
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:26:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Disregard my last message, I replied to the wrong post.




On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 10:19:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Horst
Simon) wrote:

>I have exactly the same problem, after upgrading to Samba 2.0.3. It
>worked perfect in Samba 1.9.18. My printer statement in the smb.conf
>is:
>
>[printers]
>  comment = All Printers
>  path = /var/spool/samba
>  browseable = no
>  guest ok = no
>  writeable = no
>  printable = yes
>
>Regards,
>Horst Simon
>
>
>On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 19:17:18 -0800, "Loren Cook"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I can't remember how mine is setup exactly but I think the printer section
>>format in smb.conf is more like:
>>
>>        [printers]
>>                    path = /usr/spool/public
>>                    writeable = no
>>                    guest ok = yes
>>                    printable = yes
>>
>>
>>ICeeQueue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>news:01be7afa$1f729c10$1c0b5e18@workstation...
>>> Hello all...
>>> I'm having difficulties printing to my Samba networked printer from my
>>> Windows NT Workstation SP4.  The printer is physically connected to my
>>> Linux box, and is /dev/lp0 and lpd is running and everything.  Below is my
>>> SMB.CONF file that SWAT has created for me:
>>>
>< cut>
>
>>> [Epson Stylus Color II]
>>> path = /tmp
>>> print ok = Yes
>>> ==================
>>> I can see the shares and use the mounted directories, and I added the
>>> printer with "Epson Stylus Color ESC/P2" driver from Windows NT 4.0.  The
>>> Linux printtool I configured as "Epson Stylus Color - any".  I also tried
>>> the Uniprint driver but that didn't work.
>>>
>>> If anyone can help me, it would be greatly appreciated.
>>> Thank you. :)
>>>
>>
>>
>


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From: Jeremy Billones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.security.unix
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.os.linux.security
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:34:30 GMT

                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               unmoderated group comp.os.linux.security

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Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 Apr 1999.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Votetaker: Jeremy Billones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RATIONALE: comp.os.linux.security

The number of users of the Linux Operating System has grown
significantly over the last few years. A large number of these new
users are connecting their machines to the internet via modems with
little or no thought about the security of their machines. In
addition, the standard installation procedure of most Linux
distributions results in a machine with maximal capabilities but also
with a number of possible security holes. A search of a usenet
archiving site such as dejanews would quickly find a large number of
linux security discussion threads scattered across numerous existing
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The existing newsgroup comp.security.unix is useful but its
discussion content is aimed more at the unix administrator level.
Therefore a newsgroup specifically aimed at the home/small business
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CHARTER: comp.os.linux.security

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establishing and maintaining the security of machines running the
Linux Operating System on all processor architectures.

Open discussion of techniques and software for protecting machines
against remote attacks (via a network connection) as well as attacks
from untrusted local users are welcome. This discussion can include
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vulnerability and snippets of source code for demonstrating the
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