Linux-Networking Digest #724, Volume #10 Fri, 2 Apr 99 23:13:40 EST
Contents:
Re: using linux box to console to cisco (Bill Cripe)
How do I monitor my modem ("Stephen Thomas")
Re: DNS and DHCP working in harmony? (Erik Hensema)
Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network? (John McKee)
Re: Trouble IDing NIC's ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
addin 2nd NIC ("c k hanson")
Re: Help with Linux as Client on Sygate... (contains setup information to assist)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux (brian moore)
problems compiling apache (Jeremy Lunn)
Re: router problem (Andrzej Filip)
cant get into linux server - whats ipc$ ("Charlie Macintyre")
Can't WinRSH into Linux box... (Jon Slater)
router problem (yaniv levy)
Re: bad response times although 95% idle ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ADSL ethernet with Dynamic IP (Stephen Carville)
Gateway setup is not working (Rajat & Papia Goon)
need help with 5.2 (John D Bogle)
Re: DNS and DHCP working in harmony? (Brian McCauley)
Re: MS-LINUX ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
Re: bandwidth budgeting ("Curt")
Re: MS-LINUX (David Fox)
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From: Bill Cripe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: using linux box to console to cisco
Date: 2 Apr 1999 22:01:05 GMT
William R. Mattil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Assuming that the cable is correct and applied to the proper port:
: cu -l /dev/ttySX (x=[0-4]) if no getty is running this can be replaced
: by:
: cu -l /dev/cauX (x=[0-4] )
: man cu will provide all of the gory details
I've been trying to find a way to talk to a Cisco 675 also without
success. Using cu I get an immediate hangup signal. What is this
telling me about the connection? I tried minicom also and never
got the Cisco to respond. Any clues about this will be much
appreciated.
Thanks,
Bill Cripe
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From: "Stephen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: How do I monitor my modem
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:18:15 -0600
I am using diald to dial up a ppp account with my ISP. I would like to
monitor the modem connection rate, time connected, bytes sent, bytes
received, etc. Is there a utility to do this?
Thanks,
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Hensema)
Subject: Re: DNS and DHCP working in harmony?
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:40:34 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve Emmett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
>Since I am using dhcp to randomly and dynamically distribute IP
>addresses, it is possible to use DNS to do the name-IP address
>resolution?
If you're a programmer, you may want to look at my homepage
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~hensema/index-eng.html) for a modified dhcp server,
which does what you want. However, the server requeres some scripts, and I
haven't got the time yet to write these. There are some scripts that _may_
work, but they aren't tested yet.
--
Erik Hensema ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKee)
Subject: Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 02:18:04 GMT
Well, so far I've been able to use the product to view desktops on two NT machines.
Now, I've got
to shutdown one of the NT boxes, and bring up RH 5.1 to see if I can get access to NT
from KDE and
vice-versa. After that, I'll bring up the Win98 partition, and try it on that one.
The one
distracting thing I've noticed is that the mouse seems to leave little trails on the
screen.
Otherwise, a remarkable product - especially for FREE !!!
On Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:12:25 -0600, Eugene VonNiederhausern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Timothy Litwiller wrote:
>
>> yes, please send an URL
>>
>> Eugene VonNiederhausern wrote:
>>
>> > Cyrus Mehta wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > I am creating a dual Windows/Linux environment using Samba for file serving
>> > > on a standard Ethernet network. I was wondering what kind of X server software
>> > > for the Windows side I could use to run some X windows apps off of the LInux
>Box.
>> > >
>> > > Reliability is the most important factor, windows will crash often enough
>without
>> > > the help of the X server.
>> > >
>> > > Any ideas?
>> > >
>> > > CKM
>> >
>> > Yesterday, I found the best X server/viewer for windows (and linux) that I have
>> > seen yet and it is free (GNU Public License). It is called VNC from Olivetti and
>> > Oracle research laboratory. You can connect from linux->windows, windows->linux,
>> > linux->linux, windows->windows. It is a lot better than any of the other products
>> > I have seen ot this kind. I don't have the URL (it is at work) you can email me
>or
>> > post a reply and I will get it and reply.
>
>The URL is http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ . Let me know what you think...
John McKee
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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble IDing NIC's
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 02:25:03 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have a Linux box running SuSE 5.3 that I am trying to get to recognize
> an Ethernet card. I have two that I've tried, but I got them second hand,
> without manuals or anything.
>
> The first is a Novell card (I searched their site to no avail) with a BD #
> 738-000228-001 rev. C and Assy # 810-000228-001 rev. C. The big chip on
> the board is a Nat'l Semiconductor that says:
>
> K9242C4
> XC03137L
> NSC
> DP83905AVQB
> AT/LANTIC
>
> There are no jumpers or switches on the board so I don't see any way to
> configure an address or IRQ. It's a 16-bit ISA card, with 10bT, 10b2, and
> AUI connectors.
>
> The second card I have just has a sticker on the back that says:
>
> USER FRIENDLY
> 495123 2-17-95
>
> And the big chip on this one says:
>
> Winbond
> W89C905F
> 340AF23330430
>
> Again, there are no jumpers or switches to configure it. This one only
> has the 10bT and 10b2 connectors.
>
> I'd like to get both of these up and running eventually, since I want to
> set one box up to learn linux and one to connect a network to the DSL line
> I'm getting. I'm new to both networking and linux, so feel free to yell
> at me that I should have checked X reference first, as long as you give a
> good pointer to X. 8^) Thanks!
You have a couple of NE2000 clones.
ASSUMING that they are ISA jobs you'll need to configure them
with isapnp (good luck). If they're PCI then you just use the
ne2k-pci driver and it'll do the configuration.
OR -- IONSHO the only real choice -- you go out and get one
of the now-very-cheap PCI NICs based on less brain-damaged
device architectures.
--
He either fears his fate too much, or his deserts are small,
That puts it not unto the touch to win or lose it all.
D. C. & M. V. Sessions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "c k hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: addin 2nd NIC
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:20:09 -0600
Red-Hat 5.1
All runs well with eth0. How do I go about adding/configuring a 2nd NIC?
Any suggestions ... www links, how-to, etc?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help with Linux as Client on Sygate... (contains setup information to
assist)
Date: 3 Apr 1999 00:50:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On April 02 1999, "Charles R. Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I know some of you have this *exact* setup and have it working
> but no one ever seems to mention their settings. Any help in
> this is greatly appreciated. I'm not trying to cause a flame war
> or rant with the above message.. I'm only attempting to get a
> *focused thread* on actually setting up Linux as the client.
I have this exact setup, but mine doesn't work either. I can ping by IP
Address or even bring up a site in Netscape if I use the IP Address, but
it won't resolve any names.
Hope someone can find a solution.
George Sherwood
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux
Date: 3 Apr 1999 02:32:56 GMT
On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:37:08 +0200,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes an No. There is a open source Version called mozilla. But it hasn't
> the full functionality and it needs motif to compile. And I don't have
> motif.
Actually, that's no longer true.
Mozilla works fine with GTK+ and is now, in fact, the standard UI for
Unix. See http://www.mozilla.org/unix/ for details. (As much as I
respect JWZ, I was glad to see him proven wrong on that point. GTK is
much more attractive than Motif and the chances of bug fixes in GTK are
much better -- even JWZ was known to complain about all the code in
Mozilla that was to work around Motif bugs.)
On my list of things to do this weekend is to play with the latest
snapshots: Mozilla is now in the stage where developers are expected to
use it for their regular web-browsing needs, so stability and usefulness
should be much improved over earlier releases.
NGLayout is sypposed to be quite good (as in small, fast, stable and
standards-compliant), so I'll be trying it out when I get time to
download it and clean space off my hard drive. :)
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Jeremy Lunn <Jeremy@*N0SPAM*Melbourne.8m.com>
Subject: problems compiling apache
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 10:55:53 +1000
Hi,
I tired compiling Apache, but it came up with some errors... I think it
couldn't find some files in /usr/include/linux that it wanted. But I
don't quite understand the error message... so I put a screenshot at
http://melbourne.8m.com/apache-compilation.jpg
Can someone please help?
Thanks
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Melbourne, Australia
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From: Andrzej Filip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: router problem
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 16:57:21 +0200
yaniv levy wrote:
> Thanks to all kind persos that answered my last question regarding
> sendmail hang while booting, after changing the hostname.
> the problen solution: to write the fully qualified doamin name in the
> /etc/hosts file for that local machine.
>
> And now... to another problem. :)
>
> I'm trying to configure a RedHat 5.0 as a router between two ethernet
> segments running Win95.
> configuration is as follows:
>
> 1) Network segment No.1 is 192.168.0.0 . all win95 on that sement has
> addresses of 192.168.0.x (>2 & <255).
> 2) Default gatway on all win95 of that segment is configured to be
> 192.168.0.1 (using
> control_panel>>network>>tcp_ip>>properties>>gatway>>add).
>
> 3) the same way for segment No.2 with network address of 192.168.1.0 and
> gatway is 192.168.1.1 .
>
> 3) on the linux machine:
> eth0 is connected to segment 192.168.0.0, and is configured:
> ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
> eth1 is connected to segment 192.168.1.0, and is configured:
> ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
> routing is configured as follows:
> route add -net 192.168.0.0 eth0
> route add -net 192.168.1.0 eth1
> loopback is configured 127.0.0.1 as regular.
>
> problem is: it doesnt work :)
>
> when pinging from a win95 machine on one network to a win 95 on the
> other network it doesnt work
> for example: (from machine 192.168.1.2) ping 192.168.0.2 .
>
> more facts:
> 1) ping from router to all computers, on each network, works fine.
> 2) ping from Win95 to router works fine.
> 3) thats an ODD one: i can ping from a win95 on network 192.168.0.0 to
> the the NIC on the router that is connected to the other network. for
> example (from machine 192.168.0.2) ping 192.168.1.1 gets a reply!!
>
> if you have any solution, or somthing to try. id be happy to hear that.
> (maybe i'm not running a deamon that is supposed to be running ?)
In redhat 5.0 according to the wise RFCs IP forwarding is disabled by
default. So, you must explicitly specify that you host is allowed to
act as a router.
Try to locate the option via control-panel (X application).
--
"Andrzej (Andrew) A. Filip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://homestead.dejanews.com/user.anfi
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From: "Charlie Macintyre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cant get into linux server - whats ipc$
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:40:34 +0100
I have jst got redhat running and have my win98 recognising the linux pc but
how do i get past into it over my lan. I cant seem to be able to creat a
user that will allow logging on from my win machines? it also seems to be
only working on netBeui.
charlie
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From: Jon Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Can't WinRSH into Linux box...
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 08:38:01 -0700
Hi,
I just installed WinRSH on a Win95 box so that the Win95 box can run
selected scripts on the Linux box.
I added the Win95 box to the "/etc/host.allow" file.
But, every time I try to RSH or REXEC into the Linux box, I get a
message that says:
"Connection refused" or "Connection rejected"
I can ping, telnet, and ftp from the Win95 to Linux box.
Does anyone have an idea why I can't RSH?
Thanks!
Jon
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 6150 Lookout Road
Phone: (303) 247-5037 Boulder, Colorado
Fax: (303) 247-5167 80301
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From: yaniv levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: router problem
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:32:39 +0300
Hello,
Thanks to all kind persos that answered my last question regarding
sendmail hang while booting, after changing the hostname.
the problen solution: to write the fully qualified doamin name in the
/etc/hosts file for that local machine.
And now... to another problem. :)
I'm trying to configure a RedHat 5.0 as a router between two ethernet
segments running Win95.
configuration is as follows:
1) Network segment No.1 is 192.168.0.0 . all win95 on that sement has
addresses of 192.168.0.x (>2 & <255).
2) Default gatway on all win95 of that segment is configured to be
192.168.0.1 (using
control_panel>>network>>tcp_ip>>properties>>gatway>>add).
3) the same way for segment No.2 with network address of 192.168.1.0 and
gatway is 192.168.1.1 .
3) on the linux machine:
eth0 is connected to segment 192.168.0.0, and is configured:
ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
eth1 is connected to segment 192.168.1.0, and is configured:
ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
routing is configured as follows:
route add -net 192.168.0.0 eth0
route add -net 192.168.1.0 eth1
loopback is configured 127.0.0.1 as regular.
problem is: it doesnt work :)
when pinging from a win95 machine on one network to a win 95 on the
other network it doesnt work
for example: (from machine 192.168.1.2) ping 192.168.0.2 .
more facts:
1) ping from router to all computers, on each network, works fine.
2) ping from Win95 to router works fine.
3) thats an ODD one: i can ping from a win95 on network 192.168.0.0 to
the the NIC on the router that is connected to the other network. for
example (from machine 192.168.0.2) ping 192.168.1.1 gets a reply!!
if you have any solution, or somthing to try. id be happy to hear that.
(maybe i'm not running a deamon that is supposed to be running ?)
Yaniv Levy, Israel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bad response times although 95% idle
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 01:29:01 GMT
> Slow _while running_. A "netstat -ave" shows lots of sockets with state
> "TIME_WAIT". Might that be related with my problem?
Probably not - unless you have a really old TCP. TIME_WAIT is simply a state a
closed TCP connection stays-in to insure that a new connection by the same
"name" (local/remote IP, local/remote port) does not accidentally receive
segments still floating around from the old connection.
My favorite culprit for bad network performance is packet loss - check netstat
stats for TCP on either end and look for retransmissions.
rick jones
these opinions are mine, all mine; HP might not want them anyway... :)
feel free to email, or post, but please do not do both...
my email is raj in the cup subdomain of the hp subdomain of com...
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From: Stephen Carville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ADSL ethernet with Dynamic IP
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 08:07:39 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Colin Doncaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I have a D-Link DE-528 ethernet card using an ADSL modem. Whenever I
> > turn my computer on I get a new ip address. How do I set up linux to
> > use my ADSL modem for network connection. All of the ethernet
> > configuration scripts as for an ip address and I can give them one
> > because it changes every time.
> >
> > Thanks, Colin.
>
> I'd like to know what retarded monkey designed the network to which you're
> connecting. Your so-called ISP is using DHCP on what is effectively a static
> connection, which is the most asinine thing I've ever heard of. I'd call
> them and complain that you don't have a static IP -- I can't see how it could
> be anything but *harder* for them to set up dynamic IPs for their customers
> in the first place. ADSL is nothing at all like a normal dialup connection
> (in which IP addresses can be assigned to incoming lines in a way that ends
> up being dynamic for the connecting client). Don't they understand that
> people who have a static connection tend to have one for a reason? Idiots.
Given the usage pattern for the average home user, dynamic allocation makes
sense. If a machine is only on the net for a few hours each day it is a
waste of an IP address to allocate it full time to any particular site.
Remember the Telcos are pushing ADSL as a replacement for dialup.
If the average user is on for four hours per day and the ISP uses an 8-hour
lease, he can more that double the number of machine he can service (at a
p01 GOS) from a pool of addresses. DHCP also make the set up easier for
the average user who wouldn't know an IP address from a subnet mask if they
both bit his lamer arse. Remember the catch phrase these days is, "Easy to
use computers," not, "Smarter users."
> I _hate_ dynamic IP addresses -- they're the worst of all possible solutions
> to IP allocation. I'd rather have a 192.168. or 10. address for my network,
> and have to pay extra for a routable NAT entry, than use that DHCP crap.
Personally, I shopped around until I found an ISP that would give me a
fixed address. I use ip-masquerade to allow the rest of my family to
piggy-back off the single 384K connection. Piece of cake for the smart
user but imagine the frustration of the "LCD user" trying to set an IP
address, subnet mask, default router, nameservers, etc.
--
Stephen Carville
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====================================================
It's all right to have geniuses build systems for use by idiots, but
the path from laboratory to marketplace needs to go through the
proving ground of prudent engineering.
Peter Coffee
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From: Rajat & Papia Goon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gateway setup is not working
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 08:59:10 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi,
I've a linux box (RH 5.2 with KDE 1.1) running which has a ppp
connection and I can connect to internet thru this m/c.
And I've also a laptop which has win95 running. I've ethrnet cards in
both the m/c. I assigned static id in both the m/c (192.
168.x.x). The m/c can ping each other. I can logon to Linux box etc. So
far so good. Now I want that from my laptop also
I will be able to surf the net. And Since my linux box is already
connected I want to use the linux bax as the Gateway m/c.
So in my Win95 m/c I've given the Linux Boxe's static Ip in the Gateway
IP field. I thought in doing so. It will be able to
look up any m/c's IP over the internet. First I thought the the DNS name
server setup was wrong in my win95 m/c. So I tried
with giving the raw IP address it still can not ping the IP outside. But
it can ping the the gateway m/c i.e. linux box.Can anybody
help me giving suggestion what I am missing ?
Thanks in Advance,
-Rajat.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John D Bogle)
Subject: need help with 5.2
Date: 2 Apr 1999 14:58:06 GMT
I am new to the Unix environment. I have a small LAn setup at home with a
simple ip of 10.10.10.1 this is the address of my Linux box. It is
connected to my nt comp. I seem to be having trouble with connecting to
the internet. when i dial up to my isp i connect but then i get
disconnected after about 2min. I cannot connect to the internet at all.
so what i need to know is what files do i need to edit in order to dial
up and stay connected.
can someone help?
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DNS and DHCP working in harmony?
Date: 02 Apr 1999 16:01:32 +0100
Steve Emmett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Since I am using dhcp to randomly and dynamically distribute IP
> addresses, it is possible to use DNS to do the name-IP address
> resolution?
Well, of course if you don't mind the name<=>machine mapping being
fluid you can keep the name<=>IP mapping static even when the
machine<=>IP mapping is changing.
> If it is possible, what should I read, review to learn how do to this?
Have you considered trying the excellent DHCP FAQ?
In particular have you had a look at the question "Can a DHCP client
or server make a DNS server update the client's DNS entry to match the
client's dynamically assigned address?"
RFCs 2136 and 2137 indicate a way in which DNS entries can be updated
dynamically. Using this requires a DNS server that supports this
feature and a DHCP server that makes use of it. The RFCs are very
recent (as of 5/97) and implementations are few. In the mean time,
there are DNS and DHCP servers that accomplish this through
proprietary means.
There's also an IETF internet draft "dhc-dhcp-dns" that gives a lot
more info on what's going on in this field.
One place you can find it is:
ftp://ftp.is.co.za/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dhc-dhcp-dns-09.txt
Since this is not mentioned in the FAQ I've taken the liberty of
CC'ing the FAQ mainainer.
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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Re: MS-LINUX
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 03:05:22 +0000
David Fox wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Fischer) writes:
>
> > What a hoot!
> > thanks for the laugh. I don't know if its the work of one sharply witted
> > person or a group effort, but it was funny...
> > April Fools
>
> Its not all that funny. In the current PC Week Dvorak says MS-Linux
> is fairly likely.
Yes, but it'll be the kind that WASN'T in the spoof.
It'll be 'linux' with a complete Win32 API, its own driver
architecture (remarkably reminiscent of one of the recent
M$ ones) its own FSSTD based on drive letters, M$FC instead
of glibc or libc, lots of DnD, no text-mode logins, only
one user at a time, Internet Exploder as part of the kernel,
a non-X graphics architecture (much more efficient, being
native.)
Oh, and it won't need to be open source because the gang
in Redmond will do a complete rewrite the way they did
with VMS.
--
He either fears his fate too much, or his deserts are small,
That puts it not unto the touch to win or lose it all.
D. C. & M. V. Sessions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bandwidth budgeting
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 07:19:34 -0500
IMO
This is probably more a management decision than a technical one.
Your estimates are probably as good as anyone elses, without gaining
some experience. Especially, since you don't know the size of your
pages and forms yet.
>From a minimal risk point of view, hosting your own domain on a dedicated
ISDN connection is probably a good idea. You'll have access to your host
whenever you need and to the level you need. Once you get it all working
well,
and the traffic warrents it, let one of the big boys host the site.
Use things like mrtg and ftpweblog to monitor traffic and such.
Alan Mead wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>This seems like it would be a popular topic but I didn't find
>'bandwidth' in the group currently. Sorry if this is old hat:
>
>My work has a 128K ISDN and we're adding a web site in-house that we
>hope will grow to become fairly popular. The site offers
>psychological testing to psychologists' clients. So the traffic will
>be (1) test-taker hits site, enters some demographics, (2) many many
>pages fly out and responses fly back as the test-taker responds, (3)
>an email will go out to the psychologist.
>
>Now I'm figuring that the average person has a connect rate of about
>39K bps and that people will spend only a few seconds reading and
>responding to questions. So by my calculations we can support about
>27 (128/(39/8)) simulataneous users before we become the bottle neck.
>Is that accurate? (Or should that be 128/39=3.3?)
>
>Now, everyone tells us that 128K is nothing so we're thinking of
>bringing in a fractional 256K T1. I think we would route that
>directly into a subnet containing only the Linux server. But I guess
>256K is twice nothing.
>
>An alternative is colocation where 3 T1's would be available (for
>about the same cost as leasing the fractional T1). My peers and I are
>concerned about hidden colocation costs and not having easy access to
>the hardware.
>
>Any opinions? What is the minimum bandwidth you woudl reccomend for a
>web site? Thanks in advance!
>
>-Alan
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Re: MS-LINUX
Date: 02 Apr 1999 08:19:02 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Fischer) writes:
> What a hoot!
> thanks for the laugh. I don't know if its the work of one sharply witted
> person or a group effort, but it was funny...
> April Fools
Its not all that funny. In the current PC Week Dvorak says MS-Linux
is fairly likely.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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