Linux-Networking Digest #844, Volume #10         Tue, 13 Apr 99 18:13:37 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Machine name themes - what do you use? ("Neill")
  Re: "unknown interrup" in Red Hat 5.2 ("Chris Cantwell")
  Re: 3Com 3C900 Broke With Kernel 2.2.3 Upgrade (help please!) ("Chris Cantwell")
  Re: Weirdness with DNS... (Ron Pugh)
  Re: BT Speedway ISDN and RH 5.2... still trying... need help! ("Jeff")
  Re: linux/windows95 /98 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Weirdness with DNS... (Michael Surette)
  Re: linux version (James Stevenson)
  Re: IP Masq + firewall  dhcp (Michael Surette)
  Re: IP Masq + firewall  dhcp (Michael Surette)
  Re: LCP timeout problem (James Carlson)
  Re: @home ("D. C. Sessions")
  Re: diald and DNS queries (Mark Robinson)
  Re: DNS - for yu (yugoslav) top-level-domain ("M.A.R. Janssen")
  Re: PPP - SIGHUP (Clifford Kite)
  samba and/or hardware problem (Kay Breithaupt)
  how to use IP-adres in firewall script (razoon)
  Re: yp map problems with automounter (Kevin Sorrentino)
  Re: 2 Ethernet cards for IP Masqerade? ("Chris Cantwell")
  Re: DNS - for yu (yugoslav) top-level-domain (Sabri Berisha)

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From: "Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Machine name themes - what do you use?
Crossposted-To: 
vmsnet.networks.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.domain,comp.unix.solaris,comp.os.os2.networking.server,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:32:48 -0700

In the past we have used the names of pop/rock groups in the past - e.g.
Aerosmith, Offspring etc.

We also called one "Spice Girls" but it kept going down on us...?  



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From: "Chris Cantwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "unknown interrup" in Red Hat 5.2
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:49:33 -0400

Perhaps your network card on the Linux box is sharing an interrupt (check
/proc/interrupts)  I don't think this should be a problem, but you could try
reserving an interrupt for the network card in that machine's BIOS setup.
Recheck /proc/interrupts to make sure that the NIC is on it's own interrupt.

You couls also try another brand of NIC that is know to work under Linux.
Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B or 3Com 3c905's work well.

Chris Cantwell

bencecil wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Howde people,
>
>I am receiving "unknown interrupt" messages, followed by a lock up on my
>Red Hat 5.2 (Kernel 2.0.36) system.
>
>I have 3 networked PCs.
>
>450 pentium (win95)
>150 pentium (win95)
>100 pentium (hopefully file and print server - Linux)
>
>-- all have PCI network cards detected and working OK.
>
>
>It (the Linux box) runs fine by itself, but when I boot one of the win95
>machines and try to connect to the network, the error emerges.
>
>Any advice would be extremely helpful.
>
>Ben
>



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From: "Chris Cantwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3Com 3C900 Broke With Kernel 2.2.3 Upgrade (help please!)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:00:18 -0400

Perhaps this driver was compiled in the old kernel, and now it is configured
as a module.  Have you setup the conf.modules properly?
  alias eth0 3c5x9  (I think this is right, you may want to check the driver
name)

did you rerun lilo?
  /sbin/lilo -v

If all else fails, try recompiling the kernel with the 3c5x9 module, and
setup conf.modules as above.  Rerun lilo, and retry.  See the Kernel-HOWTO.

Chris Cantwell

Howard Au wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm getting very desperate. I installed Mandrake Linux 5.3 (Kernel
>2.0.36) for the first time a couple weeks ago and have been using it
>problem free. But I recently installed the RPM's for the Kernel
>2.2.3-ac4 upgrade using kpackage, updated the lilo.conf file, and the
>new kernel booted just fine, except that my ethernet card has suddenly
>stopped working. The "using DHCP for eth0" line found during the boot
>process now says "Failed" after a few seconds. It's a PCI card, 3Com
>3C900-TPO connected to a RoadRunner cable modem (uses DHCP server). When
>I upgraded I installed all the RPM's available on the FTP site,
>including the DHCP update, and as far as I can tell they all installed
>with no problem.
>
>The card is detected properly during the boot and has no conflicts with
>any other hardware. Here's some of the output from dmesg:
>
>-----------
>3c59x.c:v0.99H 11/17/98 Donald Becker
>http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
>eth0: 3Com 3c900 Boomerang 10baseT at 0xff00,  00:a0:24:d1:45:19, IRQ 10
>
>8K word-wide RAM 3:5 Rx:Tx split, 10baseT interface.
>Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
>-----------
>
>So I went to the /var/log/message file and had a look through it for any
>info
>that it might give about why it's not working... this is what I found
>that was
>related to my network card:
>
>-------------
>Apr  9 20:47:05 COOLIE kernel: 3c59x.c:v0.99H 11/17/98 Donald Becker
>http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html
>Apr  9 20:47:05 COOLIE kernel: eth0: 3Com 3c900 Boomerang 10baseT at
>0xff00, 00:a0:24:d1:45:19, IRQ 10
>Apr  9 20:47:05 COOLIE kernel:   8K word-wide RAM 3:5 Rx:Tx split,
>10baseT interface.
>Apr  9 20:47:05 COOLIE kernel:   Enabling bus-master transmits and
>whole-frame receives.
>Apr  9 20:46:32 COOLIE kerneld: Starting kerneld, version 2.1.121 (pid
>141)
>Apr  9 20:46:32 COOLIE kerneld: kerneld startup succeeded
>Apr  9 20:46:32 COOLIE kerneld: started, pid=141, qid=0
>Apr  9 20:46:32 COOLIE ifup: SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
>Apr  9 20:46:34 COOLIE network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded
>Apr  9 20:46:34 COOLIE ifup: Using DHCP for eth0...
>Apr  9 20:46:34 COOLIE dhcpcd[233]: ioctl SIOCSIFBRDADDR (ifConfig):
>Cannot assign requested address
>Apr  9 20:47:04 COOLIE ifup: failed.
>Apr  9 20:47:04 COOLIE network: Bringing up interface eth0 failed
>--------------
>
>I can ping my own IP, but anything else just doesn't work. I've tried
>specifying addresses manually (nameserver, gateway, etc) using ifconfig
>and netcfg in X, as well as Linuxconf but nothing works. I usually get
>the "cannot assign requested address" or some other such message. If
>anyone has any ideas as to how to solve this, I'd be very grateful :)
>
>Howard
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Pugh)
Subject: Re: Weirdness with DNS...
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:43:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc


NT could be having trouble with the server name because it is longer
than 15 characters (Netbios limit). Sounds like NT is truncating the
name to 15 characters and DNS server doesn't have an entry.

Do you have the "Enable DNS for Windows Name Resolution" checkbox
checked under the TCP/IP Properties->WINS Address Tab?  If so, uncheck
it.


On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:09:17 GMT, "testing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Could someone explain why it can't resolve the FQDN to the IP, but yet it
>can resolve the IP to the FQDN?  Is there some bug in BIND that prevents a
>hostname with a certain number of -'s to be resolved?
>=============
>*** Looking up 216.49.6.68
>-
>*** Resolved 216.49.6.68 to sbn-216-49-six-68.sbusiness.com
>-
>*** Looking up sbn-216-49-six-68.sbusiness.com
>-
>*** Unable to resolve sbn-216-49-six-68.sbusiness.com


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From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.dial-up,btinternet.linux,de.alt.comm.isdn4linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BT Speedway ISDN and RH 5.2... still trying... need help!
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:08:45 +0100


Oh and I had to edit /etc/resolv.conf to get dns working after that.

Jeff.


Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7evpae$gs9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> So what was wrong ?
>
> I'm about to try setting up my linux for my card as well.
>
> Jeff.
>
>
> Seyed Razavi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Not too worry I finally did it!  Thanks everyone who helped.
> >
> > Goodbye Windoze
> >
> > Good riddance.
> >
> > Paul Black wrote:
> > >
> > > "Seyed Razavi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > As per usual I am at a loss.  Any help would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > The contents of your script producing these problems would be useful.
> > >
> > > Paul
>
>





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux/windows95 /98
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:12:19 -0400

Did you set up the gateway routing???  in lackware it' handled at
bootime by an /etc/rc.d file


> machine. i have been unsucessful in accessing the internet thus far
> from the linux machine and hope ther is some one out ther that could
> help me.
> 
> my isp domain name is kwic.com (205.150.58.253)

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From: Michael Surette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.protocol.tcpip,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: Weirdness with DNS...
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:32:44 +0000

testing wrote:

> Could someone explain why it can't resolve the FQDN to the IP, but yet it
> can resolve the IP to the FQDN?  Is there some bug in BIND that prevents a
> hostname with a certain number of -'s to be resolved?
> =============
> *** Looking up 216.49.6.68
> -
> *** Resolved 216.49.6.68 to sbn-216-49-six-68.sbusiness.com
> -
> *** Looking up sbn-216-49-six-68.sbusiness.com
> -
> *** Unable to resolve sbn-216-49-six-68.sbusiness.com

This is not a bug in BIND, just how the DNS has been set up in this case.

Forward and reverse name resolution are actually two separate databases.  In
this case reverse resolution has been set up while forward has not.  I can
only guess as to why.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Stevenson)
Subject: Re: linux version
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:35:41 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi

i run linux RH 5.0 on a 486 with 24 MB of ram
the next 20MB will cost you next to nothing and is worth it
if your board will take it

On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:16:07 +0200, calvyn du toit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>im looking for a version of windows that will run on a 486 with 4mb or ram,
>ive tried redhat 5.2 & debian but they hanging during the installation,  any
>ideas
>
>


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From: Michael Surette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IP Masq + firewall  dhcp
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:49:06 +0000

Ste wrote:

> Dhcp don't works :((, even adding: route add -host 255.255.255.255 dev eth0
>
> According to dhcp gurus, my firewall rules are preventing the linux pc from
> sending or receiving DHCP packets.
>
> How can I fix it ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ste

add the line

/sbin/ipfwadm -I -a accept -W eth0 -P udp -S 0.0.0.0/0 68

This will let in your DHCP requests.


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From: Michael Surette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IP Masq + firewall  dhcp
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:52:08 +0000

Ste wrote:

> Dhcp don't works :((, even adding: route add -host 255.255.255.255 dev eth0
>
> According to dhcp gurus, my firewall rules are preventing the linux pc from
> sending or receiving DHCP packets.
>
> How can I fix it ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ste

add the line

/sbin/ipfwadm -I -a accept -W eth0 -P udp -S 0.0.0.0/0 68

This will let in your DHCP requests.


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From: James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: LCP timeout problem
Date: 13 Apr 1999 09:55:10 -0400

"Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does anyone have any idea why I get an "LCP: timeout" error message?  My
> ISP is using PAP authentication.  Has anyone seen this before?  I
> increased the TIMEOUT option to 180 seconds, but it didn't help.

Change your chat script from:

        CONNECT ''

To:

        CONNECT '\d\c'

And please read before posting ...

-- 
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Lexington MA  02421-7996 / USA           42.423N   Fax:  +1 781 372 8090
"PPP Design and Debugging" --- http://people.ne.mediaone.net/carlson/ppp

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From: "D. C. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: @home
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:30:00 -0700

John Simmons wrote:
> 
> In article <7elo2g$4kq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> says...
> >The local cable company will soon offer @home cable modem
> >connections.
> >
> >I have not been able to get information beyond the fact
> >that they seem to discourage home networks.
> >
> >Has anyone successfully connected a linux box through an
> >@home cable modem?
> 
> Yes, it most assuredly can be done.
> 
> I currently have four systems on a LAN that can access the net through my
> Linux gateway box (which is one of those four systems).  I have an
> additional system serving as a DMZ box (and a 2nd IP) just in case my
> Linux box needs to be taken out of service for any reason.
> 
> All of the rest of my machines are Win98 boxes because that's where I
> earn my money (programming).  I chose Linux for my gateway box because
> it's the best tool for the job - I just wish Linux was less traumatic to
> my aging brain.

You do realize that you're violating the @home AUP, don't you?
http://www.home.com/support/aup

rules out using @home for almost everyone on this NG (it would
be OK for most people with a single PC, as long as they set it
up minimally.)


-- 
D. C. Sessions
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.smb,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: diald and DNS queries
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:12:34 +0000

"D. C. Sessions" wrote:

> Mike Jagdis wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ronald Hovens wrote:
> > >However, when I use diald 0.16 for
> > >a virtual permanent connection, the linux box starts dialing my ISP on
> > >very strange moments:
> > >
> > >sit. 1 after starting my laptop, that connects to my ethernet
> > >sit. 2. when I look at network neighbourhood and click on the linuxbox
> > >icon on my laptop
> > >sit. 3 when I take a look at the printer queue of the printer that is
> > >connected to the Linux box and is usable from the Win98 laptop thru
> > >samba.
> > >
> > >According to the systemlog, the diald rule that brings up the connection
> > >is a DNS packet rule (port 53). I can see that a DNS query is done to my
> > >ISP's DNS servers, (the ones that are stored within the win98 DNS
> > >settings an in /etc/resolv.conf). I'ts ok that diald brings up the
> > >connection for a DNS query, since the ISP's DNS servers are outside my
> > >ethernet, BUT WHY IS THE DNS LOOKUP PERFORMED, EVEN WHEN I LOOK AROUND
> > >WITHIN MY ETHERNET (sit 1...3)?
> >
> > All together now... "BECAUSE ITS WINDOWS!"
> >
> > Windows does all kinds of weird and wonderful look ups. If it is
> > configured to use WINS samba may be relaying requests through DNS.
> > If Windows is set up to use DNS it generates requests itself.
> >
> > >Does running a DNS server on my own
> > >linux box resolve this problem?
> >
> > No, but if you point Windows at that instead of your ISP and have
> > your local server forward requests externally it gives you a useful
> > point to trace DNS queries. Once you know what bogus queries are
> > going on you can trap them either with hosts files or by setting
> > up dummy zones on your local server.
>
> Aliasing out *.microsoft.com is a good start.  Cow-orkers
> report that the newer flavors of losedoze check in with Mama
> whenever they wake up.  Dunno for myself, since having run
> a virus scan and found myself Microsoft-free.
>
> --
> D. C. Sessions
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You might try enabling WINS on the Samba server and on the clients on your
local net.

Mark


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From: "M.A.R. Janssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
nl.burgerrechten,nl.internet.algemeen,nl.internet.misbruik,nl.internet.providers,nl.internet.www.ontwerp,nl.juridisch,nl.politiek,nlnet.misc,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: DNS - for yu (yugoslav) top-level-domain
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:07:04 +0200
Reply-To: "M.A.R. Janssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Thijs Cobben wrote in message <01be85b9$adc89400$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...

>I'm curious whether the delivery of this 'high-tech telecom service' is
>against trade embargo.
>Also curious about EUNet getting paid by Yugoslav government.

Oh please, do you want to shut down all yugo websites? Do you want the sole
source of information to be the general's press conference? Do you want only
one side of the story be told?

Me, I'm glad there is an internet and there are Serb pictures of the
destruction as the CNN (which is becoming more a NATO propaganda station as
they run all NATO press conference statements without verification) to even
things out. As usually the Serbs get demonized as a people, they're
portrayed as worse or equal to Nazi Germany. This justifies the bombings, as
there are no good people in Serbia (as the politicians want to let us
believe) so the bombs will kill only monsters.

During the Gulf War I nearly fell for the story of a war without victims,
untill I saw pictures of the carnage on the ground + heard the info that
more than 200,000 Iraqi's were dead. They tried to learn from the Vietnam
War (where telivision influenced the public opinion against the war) and
created a huge censorship of the press. This is very bad, as the political
leadership can do anything they want without having to worry about public
opinion.

In Kosovo it seems more a matter of safety that CNN and other stations have
no reporters on the ground. But then they can't verify the claims of the
Kosovo Albanians about the massacres as well as the Serb claims of the
damage done by bombings (indeed the only footage shown of the bombings have
been clips from Serb TV news). When stories can't be verified the truth
suffers.

Martijn




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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: PPP - SIGHUP
Date: 13 Apr 1999 08:32:17 -0500

K Prabhakaran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: my PPP connection is working and everything is fine, except one.
: After 15 minutes pppd is receiving a SIGHUP signal and disconnecting. I
: couldn't figure out the reason. Can anybody help me.

The ISP very likely has a policy of terminating the connection after
15 minutes of inactivity.  Try "man pppd" and look for the option
lcp-echo-interval which might help.

--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com>                       Not a guru. (tm)



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From: Kay Breithaupt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: samba and/or hardware problem
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:26:51 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hello,

i've a problem with samba and/or my hardware ...
maybe someone can help me / had the the same
problems 

hardware amd k6-2 350, epox mvp3c-m
netcard 100Mb (mxic 98713 chip) with
tulip.o driver
100Mb only HUB

suse linux6.0, samba 2.0.2, 2.0.36kernel
(tried also with 2.2.5 kernel)
raid0 with 2 eide ibm 

client w95a and nt40sp4

i see the samba server in my network neighbhd,
can read/write to the shares - till (and that
is the problem) i wrote a few files to the
samba machine - the first 10-20 files are written
(it maybe depends on the filesize)
then the samba isn't available in the network.

i tried some net drivers from d.becker v0.90h - 0.90z


my question : is this a problem of the hardware
(mainboard, netcard, ...) or is it a problem
of samba ??


thanks for your help
best regards
kay

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (razoon)
Subject: how to use IP-adres in firewall script
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:33:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I want to run a firewallscript from commandline.

IPADDR=`/sbin/ifconfig ipp p0 | /bin/grep 'inet addr' | /usr/bin/cut
-f >2 -d: | /usr/bin/cut -f 1 -d' '`

ipchains -A input -p udp -j DENY -d $IPADDR 137:139 gives an error.

How can i generate my ip-addres?
What is the right syntax?


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From: Kevin Sorrentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: yp map problems with automounter
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:51:31 -0400

I have double checked, and there is no local /etc/auto.master.

It just appears that automounter is initialized with the wrong name.

Very strange,

Kevin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Kevin Sorrentino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > This is the automount process that comes up by default:
> >
> >   481  ?  S    0:00 /usr/sbin/automount /user yp auto.user rw,intr
> >
> > When I ypcat auto.master I see:
> >
> > auto_user       rw,intr
> >
> > The map that is called up uses a "." instead of an "_".
> 
> Check the contents of /etc/auto.master, you probably have an entry in
> there for /user. the autofs startup scipts reads that before it grabs
> the contents of the NIS auto.master.

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From: "Chris Cantwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 Ethernet cards for IP Masqerade?
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:18:21 -0400

You'll never get 100Mbps over a cable modem.  10Mbps using ISA NE2000 clones
works fine, but why bother?  Netgear PIC 10/100's are about $25 each.
Modified tulip driver is on Netgear's web site.

You need two NIC's for this, and setup the linux box as a router.
Firewalling recommended, unless you like your machines getting trashed by
the script kiddies...

Chris

David K. Means wrote in message ...
>
>Doog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:FAsQ2.36940$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I have DSL modem on a single static IP that connects directly to an
>ethernet
>> card.  In order to provide internet service via IP-Masquerade to the rest
>of
>> the computers on my internal network, do I need to install an additional
>> ethernet card in that computer?
>>
>It is not strictly necessary to have a second Ethernet card for this
>purpose.  What is
>required is that you use a separate IP address space (eg. 192.168.x.y) for
>the
>masqueraded stuff.  While it is possible to overlay this address space on
>the same
>physical Ethernet interface, it is a *BAD* idea.  One of the prime reasons
>for setting
>up masquerading (besides avoiding the cost and delay in applying for your
>own IP
>address space) is the security provided by `firewalling' or filtering
>packets as they
>are passed from the public net into your private network.  In the case of
an
>overlaid
>single-interface configuration, you can forget about any security for any
>machine except
>possibly the one performing the masquerading (since it can still filter
>things for itself, just
>not for any other machine.
>
>IMHO, with the cost of 100Mb/s twisted pair Ethernet cards hovering near
>$100 and
>10Mb/s cards quite a bit lower, it is a wise investment to go with the
>2-card scheme.
>
>
>



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From: Sabri Berisha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
nl.burgerrechten,nl.internet.algemeen,nl.internet.misbruik,nl.internet.providers,nl.internet.www.ontwerp,nl.juridisch,nl.politiek,nlnet.misc,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: DNS - for yu (yugoslav) top-level-domain
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:20:50 +0000

Johan Wevers wrote:
> 
> Thijs Cobben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Technically, I wonder what would happen if the DNS-entries for the yu-tld
> >were to be deleted from these servers.
> 
> Then the servers could not be found anymore, and the last chance of
> the Serbs to let their side of the story out would be cut off.

If Srbija wants to show their side of the story, they should not deport
all of the western journalists.
 
> I'm sure the UCK terrorists would love it, they have us already fight the
> war they started and are dependent on the fact that the western media are
> demonizing the Serbs.

Terrorists? Srbija rapes women, kills and burns down entire vilages and
you (!) as an outsider have the guts to defend them? Go sit in the
corner!
 
> So I hope noone will be that stupid.

/bin/crack .yu

-- 
Sabri Berisha

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