Linux-Networking Digest #903, Volume #10 Sun, 18 Apr 99 09:13:34 EDT
Contents:
Re: Cable Modems (Bert Bulder)
Re: hacked (Luca Filipozzi)
Re: Strange sendmail message (Glenn Graham)
general internet questions (Qozmoe)
how to tranfer /home directory to different machine ("u2161474")
how to transfer user's account in /home directory ("u2161474")
Re: general internet questions ("Curt")
How do you connect a Linux machine to a Windows machine? (Amir Malik)
Re: Linux - My honest opinion (Glenn Graham)
Re: How to do secure X11: NT Workstation SP4 (SecureCRT v2.4, Exceed v6.1), Redhat
Linux 5.9.7 [Starbuck]: SSHD v1.2.26 (peter)
Re: Al gore ("Thomas J. Canich")
Unix98 PTY applications (Dan Srebnick)
PPP dial in problems ("Matthew Watts")
Re: Linux and Windows networked together ("Cameron Spitzer")
Re: assigning IP address to jetdirect EX card? (Larry Benoit)
Re: 'Network unreachable' Help! some notice (Michael Shtemler)
Configure NE2000 compatible ethernet NIC ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Getting Linux to go through Wingate (Brian DesArmo)
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From: Bert Bulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cable Modems
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:22:51 +0000
Roger wrote:
> I'm in the UK, and currently using a 56k V.90 modem.
> My cable telephone company is planning to offer a cable modem service this
> autumn, but I've phoned them and they can't give me much info.
>
> I understand people in the USA have had cable modems for a while. Could some
> one tell me the technical details of cable modems e.g. speed, performance,
> what hardware I will need (an external box or a PCI card) and how much do cable
> modems cost in the US (or wherever you are)?
>
> Thanks
>
> Roger Marks
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not only as far away as the US and Australia, but also across the Channel in the
Netherlands cable companies do provide internet services through cable modems.
Believe me: it's fast, very fast. Downloads reach 200Kbps, so downloading files of
15-20 MB is something that takes you simply the time to go get another cup of
coffee (or tea).
Nice thing of course is also that your internet connection costs are fixed to a
certain monthly contribution. No phone bills any more. Here in Amsterdam you pay a
subscription of 90 guilders a month, about 25-30 pounds. Permanent 24hours
connection.
You pay a deposit for the cablemodem (external device) to the cable company- I
think it was 30 pounds also. Setup costs - at home or in the office- were free,
if you'd presubscribed, which I did. Otherwise they would charge you something
like 30 pounds for that too.
Besides that you'll need an ethernet card.
Go get it as soon as it's available, I'd say !
Bert Bulder, Amsterdam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luca Filipozzi)
Subject: Re: hacked
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:46:30 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Does this mean that I've been hacked???
> Coul;d have this person have done any damage??
> And am installing kernel 2.2.6 with ip chains, will this help to ensure
> that I'm safe???
>
>
> in.telnetd[12023]: connect from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Apr 17 11:14:22 jack telnetd[12023]: ttloop: peer died: Success
> Apr 17 11:14:23 jack imapd[12024]: connect from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Apr 17 11:14:23 jack in.pop3d[12025]: connect from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Apr 17 11:14:23 jack wu.ftpd[12027]: connect from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Apr 17 11:14:23 jack in.telnetd[12028]: connect from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Apr 17 11:14:26 jack ftpd[12027]: FTP session closed
> Apr 17 11:14:29 jack in.pop3d[12030]: connect from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Apr 17 11:14:30 jack imapd[12031]: connect from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Apr 17 11:26:27 jack in.telnetd[12046]: connect from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Apr 17 11:26:37 jack mountd[76]: [truncated] NFS mount of
>
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>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
It definitely looks like an attempt to crack your machine.
--
Luca Filipozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail
From: Glenn Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strange sendmail message
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:41:07 -0700
Yes. Someone ( maybe you ) have sent a message through your machine to
that address ( the .jp )
Obviously, the .jp is having problems with delivery.
Go into your mailq and delte the message that is
attempting to be sent.
In slack that would be /var/spool/mqueue
Do you have your relays setup ?
Someone may have attempted to use your host to spam from
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inTEXT Communications
Vancouver BC
On 7 Apr 1999, Wonil Roh wrote:
> Date: 7 Apr 1999 12:00:23 -0700
> From: Wonil Roh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking, comp.mail.sendmail
> Subject: Strange sendmail message
>
> Hi,
>
> I've got sendmail 8.9.2 running on my homebrew linux box, Redhat 5.1.
> For the last three days, syslog's recorded strange log messages on
> /var/log/maillog, and this repeats almost every 2-3 minutes:
>
>
> Apr 7 11:41:39 skyblue sendmail[1382]: LAA01382: collect: premature EOM:
> Connection reset by mimizuku.restec.or.jp
> Apr 7 11:41:39 skyblue sendmail[1382]: LAA01382: SYSERR(root): collect:
> I/O error on connection from mimizuku.restec.or.jp,
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Connection reset by mimizuku.restec.or.jp
> Apr 7 11:41:39 skyblue sendmail[1382]: LAA01382: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> size=0, class=0, pri=0, nrcpts=1, proto=SMTP, relay=mimizuku.restec.or.jp
> [202.241.56.2]
>
>
> I still receive emails with no problem, but this messages are a bit annoying.
> Could anyone shed a light on this?
>
> Yours,
>
> Wonil
>
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Qozmoe)
Subject: general internet questions
Date: 18 Apr 1999 03:51:08 GMT
well, i was just pondering and thought i'd throw out the questions in case
anyone knew the answers. alright, i have an ISP, and i pay them money to
connect to their internet server. they make a lot of money this way. what is
it that they have and i don't that allows them to connect directly to the
internet? is their connection through telephone lines like mine is? if so,
why don't we all have direct internet connections? do they pay someone for
their direct connection to the internet? if so, who the hell has the audacity
to claim ownership over "the internet"? is the server only directly connected
to another single computer that is a server to them, or is it directly
connected to every other server on the internet (or somewhere in between)?
sorry for the simple, seemingly obvious questions but i've seen only the client
side of the internet for too long, and i'd like to have a more complete
understanding of what is actually taking place. i find it is pretty easy to
find detailed information about very specific subjects, but much harder to find
general information.
thanks,
qozmo
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From: "u2161474" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to tranfer /home directory to different machine
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:13:18 +1000
I am having a problem with transferring the user's account in /home
directory from machine A to machine B.
Will I need to have shadow password for machine B if machine A uses shadow
password?
I have transferred these following files from machine A to B:
* gshadwo & gshaddow- files
* group & group- files
* passwd & passwd- files
However, machine B didn't take machine A's password when I logged in after
rebooting......
Any suggestion is appreciated.....
TIA.
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From: "u2161474" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to transfer user's account in /home directory
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:32:19 +1000
I am having a problem with transferring the user's account in /home
directory from machine A to machine B.
Do I need to have shadow password for machine B if machine A has shadow
password?
I have transferred these following files from machine A to B:
* gshadwo & gshaddow- files
* group & group- files
* passwd & passwd- files
* user's account in /home directory
However, machine B didn't take machine A's password when I logged in after
rebooting......
Any suggestion is appreciated.....
TIA.
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From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: general internet questions
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:31:32 -0500
They buy bandwidth in bulk, and resell it in smaller chunks.
T1 1.55Mbs
DS3 45Mbs
ATM 155 Mbs
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From: Amir Malik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do you connect a Linux machine to a Windows machine?
Date: 18 Apr 1999 04:32:16 GMT
System: 480DX2 CPU at 80MHz
Operating System: Red Hat Linux 5.1
Network Card: Novell, model ???
Hub: Asante NetExtender Hub (3 ports + 1 uplink connector)
System Interface: ISA
I am trying to connect it to a Windows NT 4.0 (Server) machine. On my 486,
I have a Novell network card that is connected to a hub via an external
pin connector. (I also have an internal modem which has not been
installed, and I do not intend to. Should I remove it?) The NT machine has
a network card that is connected to the first 10BaseT connector. The NT
machine has a modem that connects to the Internet. I want to connect my
Linux machine to the NT machine so it can also get Internet access. How do
I do this?
Do I have to set up any IP addresses? The name of my Linux machine is amir
and the name of the NT machine is pc404hp. I can ping 127.0.0.1 and amir.
How do I set up the eth0 or ne interface and how do I assign an IP address
to it? Will I have to use Samba?
Anyone help me!!
Amir Malik
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Glenn Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux - My honest opinion
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:31:24 -0700
Dear sir. Thank you for your comments.
I've been involved with the Unix's since my days in University.
Linux, may not be the solution for YOUR immediate needs, nor
does it sound as if you are interested in learning what one needs to learn
in order to run Linux.
Linux is still under development, and as an everyday
user of the OS, agree that it's not ready for the average
Microsoft mentality to go ahead and use. There IS a learning curve
that one must concentrate on, in order to use linux. The learning
curve IS NOT a short and minute one, such as Microsoft....
Just think for a second please. What if Win95 had never
come to be.. and all there was, was Linux. Then you wouldn't
have anything to compare Linux to.. right ?
What I'm trying to say, is please DON'T compare
operating systems. There is NO COMPARISON.
And also remember you Don't always pay for what you get.
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inTEXT Communications
Vancouver BC
On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, A. Feiner wrote:
> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:47:58 GMT
> From: "A. Feiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking
> Subject: Linux - My honest opinion
>
> This post does not intend to flame in anyway. It's just an honest opinion,
> so do not reply unless it's to the matter. No Gates sucks or Novell is dead
> please.
>
> We have been testing Linux Redhat 5.2 for the last three months. We chose
> Redhat since it seemed to be the most widely acknowledge by large corps like
> IBM, Dell, etc. This is the 1st point:
> 1. Linux has no place in the business world unless steadily supported by
> these giants. I heard that Compaq is coming out with Alpha for Linux. This
> is a very good start.
> 2. Companies like I work for cannot rely on one sharp admin, today here,
> tomorrow there. So if I have the budget, I prefer a recognized,
> well-documented OS, with a solid backbone (Microsoft, Novell, HP-UX etc.).
> 3. Since we are in the business for living, our management was very
> interested to know whom we call when disaster strikes. We conducted a small
> "failure" test and called Redhat. Pleaseeee. These guys are way over our
> head, and do not really seem to be interested in helping. Tech support
> should always consider the fact that new users are calling. So you really
> should look into support more seriously.
> We were impressed with the speed of file printing and sharing, plus WEB
> services. That's it. There is no serious collaboration system available, not
> even serious database. If I am a small company (and I am) there is no appeal
> to my sense to integrate a very limited system.
> End user: this is where Linux sucks big time, and the people who work on it
> need to look at what Microsoft had done to the desktop. They turn it into a
> very accessible thing.
> Although MS OS' are mediocre to badly limited to exclude NT (and do not go
> there unless you really know to work with NT), they are accessible. When you
> fire up 95/98 9crap, you can navigate within seconds. If you want to win the
> market, you have to win the desktop, if you want to win the desktop it has
> to be user friendly.
> Not always the best OS wins. See MAC. It can happen to Linux, unless people
> realize that they need to desert the fancy "we are so special" mode and get
> down to earth. Make it accessible to the corporate end-user, since users
> like to work at home with they have at work. They feel more confident. I
> know it first hand talking to my wife.
> Some RPMS and add-ons require so much configurations that it's literally a
> waste of time.
> Remember, in today's world the purpose is expanding, not maintaining.
> Learning curves should be short, information accessible at all times.
> So until then, I will stick to my current OS.
>
> A. Feiner
> Representing only myself.
>
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (peter)
Crossposted-To: comp.security.ssh,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: How to do secure X11: NT Workstation SP4 (SecureCRT v2.4, Exceed v6.1),
Redhat Linux 5.9.7 [Starbuck]: SSHD v1.2.26
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:06:30 GMT
In article <01be883b$8a7f7750$24921e18@test>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Topic sums up the configuration..
> I SSH (3DES encryption) into the Linux box with SecureCRT 2.4b1, and export
> DISPLAY to my NT Workstation.
>
> Now do I make X11 *secure*?
>
>
secureCRT can auto-X11-forward. all you have to do is enable the checkbox
in sessionpreferences-sesssion-advanced and restart the session.
securecrt autosets the DISPLAY-env.var. to the correct setting ! DO NOT
SET DISPLAY MANUALLY !!
to check if it is set just type
$export
when DISPLAY is like linuxmachine:11.0 it is ok !
when DISPLAY is like ntmachine:0.0 or undefined it is not ok !
due to port-forwarding the display is set to a local-linux-port and ssh
forwards this port to nt where securecrt waits for it ;)
ok !!
peter
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From: "Thomas J. Canich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Al gore
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:49:59 -0400
yes, yes it is...well, i guess when you invent the interent... :)
tom
Thomas J. Canich
UIN: 14155862
AIM: fencertom
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, ryan wrote:
> Just a note, anyone here that vp al gore declared his web site open source?
> funny huh
> =o)
> ryan
>
>
>
>
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From: Dan Srebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unix98 PTY applications
Date: 18 Apr 1999 08:42:05 -0400
Would someone kindly provide pointers to telnet apps that use with the
Unix98 ptys? Also, has anyone compiled an ssh version using glibc-2.1 and
a 2.2.x kernel using the Unix98 ptys?
Thanks,
Dan
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From: "Matthew Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP dial in problems
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:50:33 +1000
Hi,
I am having problems configuring a chat script for my ISP - It dials in, but
the ISP returns a few lines between the CARRIER string and the username
entry, as well as between the password and service entry (for ppp, slip,
etc.), and between that and the ppp initialization thing (~ etc etc). When
my script expects username, it times out, because it sees the other strings
etc, but doesn't get to the username. Can anyone help??
Matthew Watts
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From: "Cameron Spitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Windows networked together
Date: 18 Apr 1999 04:52:24 GMT
In article <Fx4S2.428$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>yep.
>look at www.samba.org (samba comes with all distributions)
I've got a Linux box at work, with mostly Win98 and WinNT
boxes around me. No need to be a server but gotta pull
files off the corporate server.
I went to the trouble of installing SAMBA to get smbclient,
which works fine. (Look and feel of a command-line FTP,
more or less, but it's speaking Lan Managerese.)
Then read the kernel docs and discovered I had smbfs right there,
and I could mount the NT server's "shares" on my file system,
rather like NFS. Now I can poke around the NT box with the
Web browser on Linux, very slick.
But I still don't know how to discover the names of the "shares"
offered by the NT box, so I can only mount the ones whose
names I find out some other way. Mounting \\Corporate\marketing
and \\Corporate\hr works, but mounting \\Corporate\ doesn't.
>Bill Lathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>s.net...
>> I wish to network a Linux machine with several Windows 98 machines so that
>> they may share files, etc. I haven't seen any good explanation of that.
For some reason, Yahoo lists SAMBA under file systems, not under
networking. See www.samba.org. Install kernel source and read
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/smbfs.txt
Cameron
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From: Larry Benoit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.samba
Subject: Re: assigning IP address to jetdirect EX card?
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:52:22 -0400
Sorry in advance if there is redundacy in this reply. Some of the older JetDirect EX
interfaces cannot be configured with telnet nor can they be configured from the
printer's control panel. These interfaces must be configured via bootp on a Unix box
(a utility is avaiable for SCO Unix or HP/UX) or with JetAdmin software from a
Windoze 9x/NT box. I believe the very latest version of JetAdmin should handle this
-- download from HP web site.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> will this work on a older type XIO for LaserJet III C2071 (B) (D)
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Psycho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Or....
> >
> > If the box had been used in the past connect it to a printer and have it print
> > a test page. The IP address will be on the page. Telnet into the box and you
> > will be greated with a menu where you can set any-all of the parameters.
> > However if the IP is 0.0.0.0 you will have to run Jetadmin.
> >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Later,
> > rich
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> ________________________________________________________________________________
> ____
> >
> > Powered by GNU/Linux Redhat 5.2 GNOME 1.0 Enlightenment 0.15.4
> >
> >
> ________________________________________________________________________________
> ____
> >
> > It could be that purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to
> others.
> >
> ________________________________________________________________________________
> ____
> >
> >
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From: Michael Shtemler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'Network unreachable' Help! some notice
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:55:59 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I see next message while mounting system:
modprobe : No dependency information for module :
/lib/modules/2.0.34/mics/ipx.o
modprobe : No dependency information
/lib/modules/2.0.34/mics/applet_alk.o
modprobe : No dependency information
/lib/modules/2.0.34/mics/eepro100.o
(eepro100 is name of my network card!)
I tried 'make modules' & make modules_install
but with same result
depmod -a doesnt helps too.
Any ideas?
Thanks Michael.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Configure NE2000 compatible ethernet NIC
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:58:37 GMT
What steps must I take to have RedHat Linux recognize my NE2000 compatible
ethernet adapter? The adapter settings are irq=7, io=0x320, base=0xC800.
Here is my /etc/conf.modules:
alias sound cs4232
alias midi opl3
options opl3 io=0x388
options cs4232 dma=3,0 io=0x530 mpu_irq=9 irq=5 mpu_base=0x330
alias eth0 ne
options ne io=0x320 irq=7
To activate eth0, I invoke:
ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 up
but ifconfig reports:
SIOCSIFADDR: Operation not supported by device
eth0: unknown interface.
SIOCSIFNETMASK: Operation not supported by device
eth0: unknown interface.
What must I do to correct this error?
Derek
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From: Brian DesArmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux,linux.config,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Getting Linux to go through Wingate
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:57:21 -0500
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I currently have Wingate running and am trying to get Linux to utilize
the proxy, and have been running into some problems. I think it is a
route problem, not sure though, here are my settings:
Linux Box: 192.168.0.2
Win98: 192.168.0.1
Netmask: 255.255.255.0
Route:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface
192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 2
eth0
127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0
lo
default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 2
eth0
Any help is appreciated
Brian
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I currently have Wingate running and am trying to get Linux to utilize
the proxy, and have been running into some problems. I think it is
a route problem, not sure though, here are my settings:
<p>Linux Box: 192.168.0.2
<br>Win98: 192.168.0.1
<br>Netmask: 255.255.255.0
<p>Route:
<p><tt>Kernel IP routing table</tt>
<br><tt>Destination
Gateway
Genmask Flags Metric
Ref
Use Iface</tt>
<br><tt>192.168.0.0
*
255.255.255.0 U 0
0 2 eth0</tt>
<br><tt>127.0.0.0
*
255.0.0.0 U
0 0
0 lo</tt>
<br><tt>default
192.168.0.1
0.0.0.0 UG
0 0
2 eth0</tt>
<br><tt></tt> <tt></tt>
<p><tt>Any help is appreciated</tt><tt></tt>
<p><tt>Brian</tt>
<br><tt>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</tt>
<br><tt></tt>
<br><tt></tt>
<br><tt></tt> </html>
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