Linux-Networking Digest #41, Volume #11           Tue, 4 May 99 18:13:40 EDT

Contents:
  Samba directory access ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: DSL questions (Luca Filipozzi)
  Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Missing Somethin (Jeff Lasman)
  Re: smbmount, service (Richard Torkar)
  Re: kicking specific users off (James Youngman)
  Re: IP numbers ("Tetzschner")
  Re: Redhat 6.0... the good, the bad, and the ugly (Richard Torkar)
  Re: RealTek RTL 8029 PCI Ethernet Driver (M. Buchenrieder)
  Trouble with 3Com ("Vesa S�rkel�")
  Re: Can I do PPP over Ethernet? (Jeff Hildebrand)
  Dial up connections over 33600 (Stagga)
  Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ? ("Larry Brasfield")
  Re: Package for mail system in HTML (Jim Roberts)
  Re: telnet delay??? (Jim Roberts)
  Re: Samba still making progress BUT slowly. ("Tetzschner")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Samba directory access
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:32:41 GMT

I'm having trouble setting permissions on Samba shares. I would like to
create a parent directory which everyone can access, but give individual
permissions to the subdirectories. The idea seems fairly simple but I'm
stuck. I have a share called "Engineer" and a subdirectory called "Private"
(among others). I need everyone to have access to the Engineer share but only
one user to have access to the private share.

My smb.conf looks like this:

[Engineer]
   comment = Engineering Share
   path = /home/engineer

[private]
    comment = Private Directory
    path = /home/private
    valid users = %S
    public = no
    writable = yes
    printable = no

As is, everyone can access the private share. ???
Any ideas?
Thanks
Scott


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luca Filipozzi)
Subject: Re: DSL questions
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:12:33 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Christopher Segot wrote:
> > 
> > I am thinking about getting ADSL as it has just become available in my
> > area. I am looking for recommendations or hints as to what hardware to
> > get or how to install and setup my connection .
> >                                                 ~Chris
> 
> Get whatever your vendor requires.  That way they'll be responsible for
> the tech support.  Renting or leasing a bridge or router (they're really
> NOT modems even though some people call them that) isn't a bad idea,
> unless you know you AND your vendor are going to be in the same place
> for a long time and that the vendor isn't going to upgrade his CO
> equipment. 
Why wouldn't you call it a modem. I has to modulate/demodulate the 
10BaseT signal into the non-voice portion of the POTS bandwidth. It also 
acts as a router/bridge, I agree, but it's still a modem.

I agree, renting is better.

> I'd recommend doing it the first way Bill Long suggests first in his
> excellent reply, using Linux as a masquerading, proxying, firewall. 
> Otherwise you'll have to secure every attached computer against
> outsiders.  And if some of those are Windows systems, that's near
> impossible <wry grin>.
I strongly agree.

-- 
Luca Filipozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:37:31 GMT

Check out freely available Virtual Network Computing. You can control your
linux box, NT box etc. remotely via a browser. Its very cool.
   http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to view Linux Xwindows on a NT box. using an equiv app
> to Hummingbirds Exceed but for free. Maybe SuperX.
>
> Linux box arch = Martox Mill G200 Video Card using SuSE.
> NT box = Savage 3D Video Card.
>
> Connection via DEC Ethernet card 10/100
>
> Many thanks
>
> Matt
>
>

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Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:17:03 -0700
From: Jeff Lasman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Missing Somethin

Jeff Howard wrote:

> To make a long story short (too late), DSL is the physical connection
> layer.  PPP is the software communication layer that operates over the DSL
> connection.

I don't think so...

I've got a Netopia 7100-C.  They call it an sDSL "modem" but it's really
just a bridge (my understanding of the technology is that no modulating
or demodulating is taking place).  Netopia does NOT mention PPP anywhere
in any of the technical or user documentation or on their website
(<www.netopia.com>) that I can find.  And I'm not running PPP in any of
my computers.

Jeff
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From: Richard Torkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: smbmount, service
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:11:31 +0200

"J�n Gu�mundsson" wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to reach NT4 server with smbmount, the manpages says I have
> to mount with  //servername/service, but wat is the meaning with this
> "service" stuff?
> 
> My user account on the server is on the D: drive on it and the login
> procedure includes a login script, is this a problem?
> 
> Second, there is no nameserver on the network, but the WINS protocol is
> running on the server.
> 
> I have tried to access the server both by giving up its IP adress as
> servername and the alias i have in my /etc/host file wich is the same as
> the concrete server name, but all I get is
> "mount error: no such device"
> 
> My system is slackware with 2.0.35 kernel and the TCP/IP connection out
> to the Ethernet and Internet is working perfecly.
> ---------------------------------------------------
> The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour
>  to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly
> ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate
> technology, led them into it in the first place. (Douglas Adams)

service = share or printer that the server is prepared to give you.
i.e. if the server has a directory namned mp3 om it the mp3 is the
service.

*SNIP*
man smbmount.8

To mount an smb file system, I suggest using the option -c for smbmount 
to pass the mount command. For example, use

       smbmount "\\server\tmp" -c 'mount /mnt -u 123 -g 456'

to mount the tmp share of server on /mnt, 
giving it a local uid 123 and a local gid 456.


Good Luck!
Richard
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and should never be allowed.
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kicking specific users off
Date: 02 May 1999 10:23:08 +0100

jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Kill their login shell?  e.g.:
> 
> % ps aux | grep ^bad_user | grep sh
> bad_user    2197  0.0  0.7  1892   488  p4 S   Apr 22   0:00 -tcsh
> % kill -9 2197

Don't use -9.  

Why do people use -9?  There is no need.  It leaves temporary files
all over the place, too.  Overkill, not required, and sometimes messy.
Use just "kill 2197".  There is no need to use -9 in 95% of cases.
Better yet, use kill -HUP.

> % ps aux | grep ^bad_user

Tip: in this case, use grep ^[b]ad_user, so that grep will not match
its own command line.

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From: "Tetzschner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IP numbers
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 22:15:24 +0200

N� ja det m� jo v�re sverige....
Pr�v med:
startx
og derefter kalde programmet: netcfg

Olle Soderqvist skrev i meddelelsen ...
>Hi!
>
>I was wondering wich file I should open and modify if I'd like to set a
>different IP number on my Local Are Network Computer?? And also set the
most
>common names and IP numbers to the others on my network??
>
>Regards, Olle
>
>--
>Message originally from:
>Olle Soderqvist, At:
>hem2.passagen.se/lypsyl (come.to/ollesoderqvist)
>E-Mail; [EMAIL PROTECTED] or,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] or,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>ICQ: 4967460 (Royal hacker)
>
>



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From: Richard Torkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.0... the good, the bad, and the ugly
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:17:12 +0200

Jeff Volckaert wrote:
> 
> Hello Everybody,
> 
> I just did two Redhat 6.0 installs over the weekend and thought some people
> might like to read some comments.  Overall I'm really impressed.  Every
> Redhat version since 3.0.3 has raised my expectations of Linux and not let
> me down.
> 
> The good:

*a lot snipped*

> The Bad:
> 
> I've had a few hard locks.  Ouch!  Some of my first with Linux (which i've
> been using for over 3 years).  Not a good trend to start.
> 
> LICQ segment faults now... could be LICQ though.
> 
> Still haven't got XawTV working with my Hauppauge tuner card.  I'll have to
> mess around with hand loading modules like I had to do with Redhat
> 5.2+2.2.5.  Just hoping I wouldn't have to.
> 
> The Ugly:
> 
> The Ultima Online client will not run under Gnome but will under WindowMaker
> (without sound though, but that's Origin's prob).
> 
> DHCP will not work with my Cable modem.  My workstations DHCP fine to my
> Linux DHCP server though.  This one really hurts and prevents me from
> upgrading my firewall until it's fixed.  I'm told that Redhat now uses a
> program called pump instead of dhcpcd.

1.      You have to recompile to get licq working again. 
        I think it has something to do with the new libs

2.      Yes RH6 uses pump.
man pump 
*snip*
pump is a daemon that manages network interfaces that are controlled by
either the DHCP or BOOTP protocol
*snip*

3.      I haven't experienced any hard locks. 
        Could be something specific with your hardware though..


Richard
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and should never be allowed.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: RealTek RTL 8029 PCI Ethernet Driver
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:33:54 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Westcott) writes:

>Alex Kaufman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: Just use the ne2k driver, and be sure to disable PnP Bios
>: 
>: > Why should he ? This is (as can be easily verified by a quick
>: > search on DejaNews on that topic) a card that has been supported for
>: > at least 2 years now, with either the standard ISA NE2000 od the newer
>: > ne2k-pci driver.

>*snip* Speaking of PnP, if you're running Win95 (or some OS where the card
>currently works), be sure to write down the exact address and irq the card
>is using. 

The address for PCI cards is set by the BIOS. This is not a value the 
user can change later.

>I have a NE2000 compatible PCI card with the Realtek 8029
>chipset, and it will work only at a specific address, regardless of the
>machine it is in, regardless of whether PnP is active. :> (Thank god for
>/proc/pci)

[...]

The PNP stuff has nothing to do with PCI cards as far as I/O addresses
are concerned. The only relevance of the BIOS' PNP/PCI menue is the list
of IRQs available for the cards.

Michael
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From: "Vesa S�rkel�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.networking
Subject: Trouble with 3Com
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:39:38 +0300


I'm having real trouble with 3Com.

I have found a problem with 3C905B-TX cards, but 3Com insists that they
are OK. You may also have this problem.

The problem is sensitivity to line noise when receiveing data from
network. Symptoms are network speed slowing down, dropped connections and
problems with connections that have worked OK in the past. 3COM NIC
DOCTOR (or 3c90xcfg.exe) will show a high number of framing, overrun and
CRC errors.

There is a simple test for this problem: put a small, cheap hub between
PC and the network wall socket. If network begins to work normally, it is
because the short patch cable between hub and PC has much less noise than
the lengthier (up to 90 m) permanent UTP cable.

I have contacted 3Com customer support and the refence number is 1000146.
Actually I haven't got the text of that case. Anyway, they sent me a new
3C905B-TX card to test and it worked flawlessly!

The difference between working and non-working card is in the large ASIC
chip. If the chip is made by BROADCOM, it will work but chips made by
LUCENT have this line noise problem.

And no, this is not an autonegotiation problem, I have tried to put those
LUCENT cards manually to 10 Mbit/s, half duplex -- no go. And those
BROADCOM cards work flawlessly even with autonegotiation ON.

Now the problem is that 3Com says that there must be something else - or
they (and actually You also) should have found this problem loonnng time
ago. At first I thaught also, but the more checks and rechecks I have
made, so more convinced I am that my diagnosis is rigth.

This reminds me about the division bug in Intel's Pentium processors -
this might actually become as expensive to 3Com (I think it cost 400
million dollars for Intel)...

So check out your network problems, if You have 3C509B-TX cards with
LUCENT chip, try installing a hub beside the PC - and if it works OK,
it's this problem!!

AND THEN SHOUT LOUDLY AT 3COM, PERHAPS WE CAN TOGETHER CONVINCE 3COM...

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From: Jeff Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I do PPP over Ethernet?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 21:50:22 GMT

Luca Filipozzi wrote:
> [ original PPP over Ethernet Q snipped ]
> This strikes me as incorrect.
> 
> I have ADSL. My computer has a NIC in it. I connect it to the ADSL modem
> via a CAT5 cross-over cable. I get an IP address assigned via DHCP. Done.

Perhaps I wasn't clear - this isn't being done now. The current
mechanism in Winnipeg is rather strange, and I won't even attempt to
explain it because I'll probably get it wrong.

PPP over Ethernet is a Real Thing. You may want to check out:

http://www.redback.com/solutions/

which has a number of papers on PPPoE (thanks to Jan Chab who pointed
me to this site in an e-mail response to my original message).

> I would check again with your provider as to the terminology.
> 
> For comparision purposes...
> 
> [PPP & DHCP explanations snipped]
> 
> They are similar in the sense that an ip address is assigned
> automatically and that the routing table is updated.
> The difference is that pppd creates an interface (like ppp0) and dhcpcd
> runs on top of an interface (like eth0). Also, dhcpcd broadcasts a dhcp
> request and listens for a dhcp reply whereas pppd dials the ISP and
> negotiates for an ip address itself.

IIRC, dialing is not really a part of PPP (although many PPP "clients"
have a built-in dialer).

Now, I was told that the benefits of PPPoE that the local ADSL provider
was interested in were:

1) assigning an IP based on a login/user ID
2) ability to set the MTU

Apparently other OSes (which shall remain nameless) insist on setting
the MTU on an ethernet card to 1500, and this may cause problems with
ADSL - or at least, the xDSL hardware they're using here.

So my original question is still unanswered.

Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stagga)
Subject: Dial up connections over 33600
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 21:10:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I finally got my PPP up and running correctly but there's still one
problem, if I connect over 33600 the connection process stops.  60% of
the time I connect at 44000 (it's v.90, in Windows at least) and the
connection halts.  Is there an extra setting that needs to be
implemented or maybe just an init string?


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From: "Larry Brasfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 18:09:35 GMT

Robin Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <F3CX2.4515$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Larry Brasfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[Which of the following assumptions are false?]

I take your mixture of YES's and NO's to mean
that none of 1-5 were false assumptions.

> >6. If you start MiX in the default way, and set
> > DISPLAY per above, then enter "xterm &" on
> > the Linux console, you get to interact with a
> > Linux shell thru a single window on the Mac.
> > (The assumption is that your MiX setup is
> > OK and the unsolved problem is merely to
> > get a different window/desktop manager
> > to run instead of MiX's TWM look-alike.
>
> If I do all above and then type exec netscape for instanace netscape WILL
> start up on my MI/X system.
>
> If I type exec startx Xwindows starts on my Linux laptop.

The solution is going to be running something
other than startx.  That program is responsible
for starting the local X server and a window or
desktop manager of some sort.  You want to
start only the client, a destop manager.

The man entry for startx claims that it *sets*
the DISPLAY environment variable rather
than consuming it, so you should not be at
all mystified by what you are seeing.

I suggest you read the startx man entry very
carefully, then the one for xinit.  Just for grins,
you might try running startkde with DISPLAY
set as we've been discussing.  I am fairly
sure that will then run KDE on your Mac and
the problem will be reduced to figuring out
how to get it to run just as you want.

> Oh bugger...  I feel so close and yet so far...  Mind you I get this
> feeling ALL the time with Linux.

I get that feeling frequently with all kinds of
computer-related situations on all systems.
What I like about Linux and other documented
systems is that you have some recourse for
self-help rather than just scattering spittle
all over the monitor.

--
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Above opinions may be mine alone.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Roberts)
Subject: Re: Package for mail system in HTML
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 18:54:24 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        J�rgen Kindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all,
> 
> does anybody know about a package that provides functionality similiar
> to hotmail ?
> 

Check at http://www.cgi-resources.com/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Roberts)
Subject: Re: telnet delay???
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 18:58:22 GMT

In article <7gnacp$4j0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Ross Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi
> 
> I work on a private network and have come across a very puzzling problem.??
> When I telnet from a windows 95 box to a linux box at out coventry site it
> takes approxiamatley 1.5 minutes before I get a login prompt back?.  When I
> telnet to other sites from the same Windows 95 box the response is with 1 or
> 2 seconds.  The funny thing is that when telnet from a Unix box to our
> coventry site, I get a response within 1 or 2 seconds.
> Anyone have any Ideas
> 
> 
Ross;

This problem is usually caused because the recieving or host box can't
resolve the host name of the client that is trying to attach.

It can be solved by putting the IP to HOSTNAME information in the /etc/hosts
file on the recieving box.

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From: "Tetzschner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba still making progress BUT slowly.
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:28:26 +0200

Got about the same problems here, but then again I'm new to Linux (not to
Windows). I have with succes createt a user:

adduser NameOfUser
then:
smbpasswd -a NameOfUser
then you have to enter a password twice and i your smb.conf i got the
"encrypt passwords = yes"
and further more in the smb.conf i got
[home]
comment = Home Dir
browseable = no
writeable = yes

and then ofcourse you net to restart samba

see Stancil Journal (01281999b)

With kind regards... Ole


Robin Jackson skrev i meddelelsen ...
>I can now see my Linux box (at least as a guest).
>
>NOT as a real user and while I can SEE it as a guest I cannot DO anything
>in it.
>
>I have tried all sorts of changes in my smb.config fle to no avail......
>
>DAMN.
>
>Robin
>
>
>
>



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