Linux-Networking Digest #269, Volume #11         Mon, 24 May 99 19:14:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: My Modem Cablemodem has got a Hangup. Might just be the pppd... (Ted Potter)
  D-Link DE-528CT NIC installation under SuSE 6.1...Help ! ("Passing Thru")
  Anyone using two modems? (peter)
  Framing errors ("Clifton T. Sharp Jr.")
  Re: Samba share appears as an IP address (Ted Potter)
  Re: Newbie -  please help (Matt Starnes)
  Re: Bizarre perl/linux/ppp problem (John Porter)
  Practice firewall ("Mark Swope")
  Shadow password setup: login error (S P Arif Sahari Wibowo)
  Re: D-Link DE-528CT NIC installation under SuSE 6.1...Help ! (Nick Zentena)
  Re: no /dev/eth0 (Bernd Eckenfels)
  Re: no /dev/eth0 (David Hinds)
  Re: 3C509B NIC Problem...try this .... (Zenon Fortuna)
  Re: Linux: ICMP Redirect, IP Source Routing unterdruecken (Andre Beck)
  Re: Linux: ICMP Redirect, IP Source Routing unterdruecken (Bernd Eckenfels)
  Re: Dumb Telnet ? ("Curt")
  Re: My Modem Cablemodem has got a Hangup. Might just be the pppd... (Clifford Kite)
  Re: DNS, where do I define it in linux? (Brandon Casey)
  Re: PPP with MSCHAP - hint (bill davidsen)
  Bizarre perl/linux/ppp problem (bill davidsen)
  Re: Works now IP MASQ and Samba needs to work????? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: I'm New in the linux world (Brandon)
  Re: IRC RFC ? ("J. S. Jensen")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted Potter)
Subject: Re: My Modem Cablemodem has got a Hangup. Might just be the pppd...
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:29:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

er that 10.X is a private address, you won't get home with it. Did
your ISP not assign a static ip address for you ?

It does sound as if you have an interesting setup. Not sure why you
would need anything else if using a cable modem.

hth

Ted




On Mon, 24 May 1999 05:05:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>In article <7ia7gt$pp5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zenon Fortuna) wrote:
>> I am very confused here: you have a Cablemodem connections but are
>> trying to use the ppp protocol to communicate ?
>> The Cablemodem provides the Ethernet-like interface, so you do not
>> need the ppp0 only the eth0 protocols.
>
>Let Me clarify. The Cablemodem is a one way downlink. My ISP requires
>I have a separate telephone modem for completing the connection. So,
>as far as I can tell, I am having pppd problems primarily. For all I
>know now, the Cablemodem could be fine its just the pppd service that
>is not properly functioning. Once I get past the pppd, assuming the
>login is not tied to the eth0 IP settings, then the ethernet
>
>Btw, I do connect to an other regular
>telephone modem based ISP service via pppd (via ezppp) fine.
>
>Essentially, the pap/chap negotiation is not being resolved properly.
>I am not certain if the
>
>> Another confusion: you say that the "3com 3c900B modem seems to be
>>recognized".
>> The 3c90xB is an Ethernet card and not a modem. You are supposed to
>>connect
>
>You're right, I should've written 3c900B ethernet card. Frankly that too
>was a problem for I couldn't find a module for driving that particular
>eth card. Indications are that the 3c59x module that comes with
>Slackware 3.6 supports my card as well. Even as we speak, I'm upgrading
>to Slackware 4.0 to see maybe if just switching to that will
>automatically resolve all these issues.
>
>> this card to your cable modem, configure your network (IP address,
>>routing
>> etc) and use your eth0 interface to communicate (with ftp, telnet,
>>http, etc).
>> BTW, your IP address on the eth0 interface, 10.0.0.1, cannot be right
>> to communicate via the cable modem.
>
>I too was thinking that 10.0.0.1 may not be a valid IP address. But I
>wasn't and still am not clear on this. Is there a way to find out what
>the IP address should be -- like by checking under the Win95
>configuration?
>
>The proper formatting of receive/send messages seems to be cause of my
>troubles. But I followed the instructions literally and that 10.0.0.1
>may in fact not be an acceptable IP address to use is a concern.
>
>Mahipal
>
>
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From: "Passing Thru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: D-Link DE-528CT NIC installation under SuSE 6.1...Help !
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:22:09 GMT

Folks,

          Anybody successful in installing the DE-528CT NIC from D-link
under SuSE 6.1. I downloaded the rtl8029.tar(www.dlink.com) file and after
untaring the files put the rtl8029.c, Makefile and Space.c files under
/usr/src/Linux/drivers/net . After modifying the Makefile and the Space.c
files I got past : 'make config' and 'make dep'  but when I tried 'make
zImage' it barfed saying that image was too big (675K). So I tried 'make
modules' and got PCI related errors in compilation of rtl8029.c.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (peter)
Subject: Anyone using two modems?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:08:24 GMT

Tell me more, please...

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From: "Clifton T. Sharp Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Framing errors
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:41:00 -0500

Where to start looking? Hardware is good and worked under WfWG without
framing errors. Just switched from a 16550 to 16750 with no change. It's
not a terribly severe problem:

RX packets:249915 errors:370 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:370

though *from memory*, hours ago this looked more like

RX packets:6000 errors:263 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:263


I'm currently running an asyncmap of 000A0000, which is what the host
seems to want to negotiate. Some obscure docs from the ISP suggest
20A0000 [sic], which I think is a typo for 200A0000. Either 0* or 2*
gets the framing errors; don't remember whether or not they were there
before when I let it default.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted Potter)
Subject: Re: Samba share appears as an IP address
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:51:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

check your smb.conf file

server string = Servername




On Mon, 24 May 1999 17:07:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>My Samba share appears as an IP address in "Network Neighborhood". Is
>there any way to assign a name address to it? my hosts and lmhosts file
>list it as Linux_Server, but it is not apeparing as such. It is quite
>frusterating.
>
>- Steve
>
>
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From: Matt Starnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie -  please help
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:24:08 -0500

Markus Jahn wrote:

> Hi there. I am trying to run a little network with my two computers (peer to
> peer).
>
> I am using SuSE Linux 6.0 on both mashines. The network cards are recognized
> by the kernel (I think so). I am using the tulip driver with the "options=0"
> parameter. My problem is that I cant even ping the other mashine. I already
> read the net-howto but that didn't solve my problem either. Please help!!!!

Are the computers plugged into a hub?  If not you need a cross-over cable.

Matt


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From: John Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Bizarre perl/linux/ppp problem
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:19:55 GMT

In article <7icc4u$tgo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen) wrote:
> Here's the odd part, if I do an internal perl kill, such as
>   kill "HUP", $proc_id
> the process ends without running the ip-down script, while
>   system("kill -HUP $proc_id")
> also kills the process, but it runs ip-down on the way out.

First of all, HUP is not 15, it's 1.  15 is TERM.
Now, if that doesn't set you straight, try:
        kill -1, $proc_id;  # negative HUP

--
John Porter
Put it on a plate, son.  You'll enjoy it more.


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From: "Mark Swope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Practice firewall
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:16:07 -0500

My company is considering setting up an old box
as a Linux Firewall.  However, my boss requested
that we set it up to "test" it before we go on line.

Can anyone think of a good way to set up a firewall,
w/o a "live" connection to the Internet so that we
can test operations and administration?

Currently we don't have a dedicated connection
to the internet, just a dynamic ISDN connection
to our ISP...

Thanks for suggestions,
Mark Swope



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From: S P Arif Sahari Wibowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.pam
Subject: Shadow password setup: login error
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:27:01 -0500

Hi!

I tried to set up shadow password in a RedHat Linux 5.1 machine. I use
pwconv and it works fine. However after that I cannot login to the
machine. Interestingly, imap and pop login works.

I looked into the pam setup and it look fine:

login:
auth       required     /lib/security/pam_securetty.so
auth       required     /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok
auth       required     /lib/security/pam_nologin.so
account    required     /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
password   required     /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so
password   required     /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok use_authtok
session    required     /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so

passwd:
auth       required     /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok
account    required     /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
password   required     /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3
password   required     /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow use_authtok nullok

The login program is part of package util-linux-2.7-18
The passwd program is part of package passwd-0.50-11
The pam package is pam-0.64-2
The shadow package is shadow-utils-980403-3
The Linus itself is RedHat Linus 5.1, with 2.0.34 kernel.

More strange, after I return to for non-shadow setting using pwunconv, the
passwd still just put an "x" in /etc/passwd, but since there is no
/etc/shadow, the password is lost.

Do you have any idea on what's wrong?

Thanks.

                                   S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
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From: Nick Zentena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: D-Link DE-528CT NIC installation under SuSE 6.1...Help !
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:03:11 GMT

Passing Thru wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
>           Anybody successful in installing the DE-528CT NIC from D-link
> under SuSE 6.1. I downloaded the rtl8029.tar(www.dlink.com) file and after


        You could just use the stock kernel from SuSE. The one on the bootdisk
supports the NE2KPCI which is the right driver to use. At least I think
it does. Or you could select the NE2KPCI driver when you build the
kernel. Unless D-Link has released new drivers the ones on the driver
disk are VERY old and not to be used.

        Nick
-- 
=====================
Nick Zentena
SuSE 6.1 Linux 2.2.9
www.hophead.dyndns.org <Don't expect much-)>
=====================

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From: Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: no /dev/eth0
Date: 24 May 1999 22:22:36 GMT

In comp.os.linux.networking Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ethernet card detected at boot. But the initial installtion didn't create
> /dev/eth0 so I can't connect to my network.

Linux does not use device special files for network devices. Just try to
greate one with "ifconfig eth0 <ip> up", but suse should do tht quite ell if
it recognizes your hardware well.

Greetings
Bernd

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Hinds)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: no /dev/eth0
Date: 24 May 1999 22:24:39 GMT

Neil ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: hi
: 
: I've installed SUSE 6.1 on my dell lattitude cpi 300. 
: 
: Installed the PCMCIA package etc.
: 
: Ethernet card detected at boot. But the initial installtion didn't create
: /dev/eth0 so I can't connect to my network.

There is no such thing as /dev/eth0 in Linux.  Ethernet devices do not
have device files.

: Intel PCIC probe: 
:   Unknown [0x104c 0xac1c] PCI-to-CardBus at bus 0 slot 3, mem 0x68000000, 2
: sockets

This controller (TI 1225) is better supported in the 3.0.10 PCMCIA
driver release, but I can't tell yet if you have a problem or not.

: eth0: 3Com 3CCFE575 Cyclone CardBus at 0x200,  00:50:04:5b:dd:0e, IRQ 3
: eth0: CardBus functions mapped a0020000->c8067000
:   8K byte-wide RAM 5:3 Rx:Tx split, MII interface.
:   MII transceiver found at address 0, status 7809.
:   Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: excluding 0xa0000000-0xa00fffff
: tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 5) is a 16550A

This all looks ok.  The 3CCFE575 and modem card were both configured
correctly.

-- Dave Hinds

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zenon Fortuna)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: 3C509B NIC Problem...try this ....
Date: 24 May 1999 15:33:37 -0700

In article <7ib9o3$esa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rob van der Putten  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi there
>
>
>In comp.os.linux.networking Zenon Fortuna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I struggled with my 3c509B too long ... Then I made the other card
>> working in 5 minutes.
>
>Use 3c5x9cfg.exe (dos) to switch off PnP and media type autodetect.
>

Well, I have done my homework! (long time ago)
It did not work.
So, for everybody: stay away from the 5c509B.
You may be lucky, though.

        -z

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From: Andre Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,de.comm.internet.routing
Subject: Re: Linux: ICMP Redirect, IP Source Routing unterdruecken
Date: 24 May 1999 17:13:34 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Detlef Bosau) writes:

> Kann ich auf Linux ICMP Redirect und IP Source Routing unterdruecken?

Im Kernelcode von 2.0 steht, da� er ICMP Redirects optional
akzeptiert, wenn kein dynamisches Routingprotokoll l�uft. Leider
habe ich aber keinen vern�nftigen Runtimeswitch daf�r gefunden.
Im Gegenteil, in 2.0.36 etwa ist ICMP Redirect durch eine Code-
Unsauberkeit v�llig ausgeschaltet (das n�tige Define, mit dem
man es ankriegen w�rde, ist nirgends in der Config einstellbar).
In 2.2 hingegen sieht der Code vern�nftiger aus, aber ich habe
auch dort nicht gesehen wie der Kernel zur Laufzeit mitgeteilt
bekommen soll, da� er sein Verhalten �ndern sollte (und da� ein
Endsystem sowie ein rein statischer Router gef�lligst per Default
auf Redirects zu h�ren hat ist eigentlich klar ;)

> Bzw. wie weit kann der Kernel letzteres ueberhaupt?

Source Routing ist eine Compile-Time-Option, die per Default aus
ist. Da ich sie noch nie angeschaltet habe wei� ich nicht ob
das dann gehen w�rde ;)

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From: Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: de.comm.internet.routing
Subject: Re: Linux: ICMP Redirect, IP Source Routing unterdruecken
Date: 24 May 1999 22:21:00 GMT

In comp.os.linux.networking Andre Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In 2.2 hingegen sieht der Code vern�nftiger aus, aber ich habe
> auch dort nicht gesehen wie der Kernel zur Laufzeit mitgeteilt
> bekommen soll, da� er sein Verhalten �ndern sollte


/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/{DEVICE|all|default}/*
accept_redirects     log_martians         secure_redirects
accept_source_route  mc_forwarding        send_redirects
bootp_relay          proxy_arp            shared_media
forwarding           rp_filter            

Also: echo 1  > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/secure_redirects 

Doku:  /usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt

Gruss
Bernd

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Reply-To: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dumb Telnet ?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:48:40 -0500

open a dos windows

type
c> telnet 192.168.0.1

or whatever IP you want

DB7654321 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> How do I telnet from my windoze computers to my linux server by entering
an IP
> address?
>
> David Bell
>
> Please don't email me just reply on the board.



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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: My Modem Cablemodem has got a Hangup. Might just be the pppd...
Date: 24 May 1999 14:02:36 -0500

Clifford Kite (kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com) wrote:

: The chat login/password scripting can then almost certainly be removed,
: and your   CONNECT ''  replaced by   CONNECT '\dc\' to avoid possibly
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That should be  CONNECT '\d\c' .

: confusing the ISP.


--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com>                       Not a guru. (tm)

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From: Brandon Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DNS, where do I define it in linux?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:03:52 -0500

S. Faust wrote:
> 
> in /etc/resolv.conf
> 

#man man
#man -k resolve
dnsquery (1)         - query domain name servers using resolver
logresolve (8)       - resolve hostnames for IP-adresses in Apache
logfiles
resolver (5)         - resolver configuration file
#man resolver

for information on how to set up that file.
man pages are very useful, the -k is sort of like a subject search.

-brandon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Subject: Re: PPP with MSCHAP - hint
Date: 24 May 1999 22:34:16 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael J. Saletnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| Can anyone point me to how to set up MSChap to an NT RAS server, but
| using the standard configuration tools of RH6.0? I'd rather stay
| within those bounds so I can use RH's interface for configuration 
| as well as opening & closing the interface.

I don't believe RH will setup MSCHAP (this may no longer be true).

You don't need a tool to start ppp, either use demand dialing or put
your options file for the host in /etc/ppp/peers so anyone can start it
(assuming RH is using a recent version of pppd).

PPP setup is about ten lines in two plain text files, somehow a GUI
seems overkill here.

-- 
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
  One common problem is mistyping an email address and creating another
valid, though unintended, recipient. Always check the recipient's
address carefully when sending personal information, such as credit
card numbers, death threats or offers of sexual services.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Bizarre perl/linux/ppp problem
Date: 24 May 1999 20:17:34 GMT

I have a server which has a fair number of PPP connect points, often
with multiple connects up at once. I wrote a small perl script to kill
the "right" connection by name rather than process id. If I tell it
'pppstop atlanta' it finds an IP address in a database, does a 'netstat
-rn' to find which ppp process is running that connect, looks in
/var/run for the process number, such as file ppp3.pid for example, and
kills the process.

Here's the odd part, if I do an internal perl kill, such as
  kill "HUP", $proc_id
the process ends without running the ip-down script, while
  system("kill -HUP $proc_id")
also kills the process, but it runs ip-down on the way out.

What I tried:
  For the perl kill I put an explicit 15 instead of the 'HUP'

  I ran with both ppp-2.3.5 and ppp-2.3.8

  I ran both 2.0.33 and 2.1.131 linux

Since this is a production machine I'm not happy trying other kernels,
and I don't see it as a kernel issue. There is some subtle difference
between the internal kill and the kill process run from a shell, but I
have no idea what it is.

Note that both methods kill the right process and drop the connect.

Obviously I have this working, but I would really like to have a clue
what could be causing this problem.

-- 
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
  One common problem is mistyping an email address and creating another
valid, though unintended, recipient. Always check the recipient's
address carefully when sending personal information, such as credit
card numbers, death threats or offers of sexual services.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.announce,linux.redhat.digest,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Works now IP MASQ and Samba needs to work?????
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:06:52 GMT

Try the command

ipchains -F -a m -S $MY_NET/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0

for example $MY_NET would be equal to 192.168.1.0
if you second NIC in you Linux box and you win98
box NIC belongs to that subnet.

Later,
Preston


In article <7i9tej$gs8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Matt Goebel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks guys for all the info.  I got my cable
modem working now.  All I need
> was to call Mediaone and have them change the
MAC to that of the card in my
> Linux box, set it to use DHCP, and install the
pump patch.  Works great now.
> I've also got my 2nd network card in the Linux
box to work.  Now I need help
> getting my other machines (Windows 98) to use it
as a gateway to the
> internet via IP Masq.  Since I'm using Redhat 6
(kernel 2.2.5) I think
> support for this is built in and I won't need to
recompile the kernel??  I
> also need to get Samba to work.  At the moment
all I can go with the 2nd NIC
> is ping the other machines and vice versa.
> Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
news:eRW13.14267$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > The version of pump supplied with 6.0 does
not work with roadrunner. At
> > > least I have found this to be so. The
updated version does work. You can
> > > either get the updated version of pump or
edit '/etc/resolv.conf'. I bet
> > > if you look at /etc/resolv.conf you won't
see your nameservers, only the
> > > word search. Hope this helps.
> >
> > I used RH6 to do a complete install and during
initialisation I set it to
> > configure dhcp for RoadRunner.  It worked
first time and all I needed
> > to add was a default gateway route to the
routing table.  Use linux-conf
> > for this.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
>
>



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Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:49:53 -0400
From: Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I'm New in the linux world

Khaled Al-Thukair wrote:
> 
> Hi
> I'm new to the linux world
> If Some one Can direct me to the starting point in it
> what I have right now is:
> PII 450 with 128 ram and 10 gb hd
> PII 350 with 128 ram and 4.3 gb hd
> AMD 300 with 6.4 gb hd and 64 ram
> and A 486 DX 66 with 400 MB HD and 16 RAM
And what exactly are we supposed to use this info for?


-- 
                              

"Bill Gates?, I dont know any Bill Gates.  Oh, you mean 'by putting
every conceivable 
 feature into an OPERATING SYSTEM, whether you want it or not, is
innovation' Bill 
 Gates? Yeah, I know the monopolizer"
                
                  http://web.mountain.net/~brandon/main.htm
     For Beginners in Linux, Emulation, Midis, Playstation Info, and
Virii.

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From: "J. S. Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: IRC RFC ?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:20:45 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> And BTW does anyone know of a web-based search engine for RFC's
> so that I could do this sort of search myself ?

http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/information/rfc.html

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