Linux-Networking Digest #360, Volume #12         Wed, 25 Aug 99 19:13:58 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Need help on Linux and Win98 ("ardog")
  Re: cs: Unable to map card memory! (David Hinds)
  Please help!  Linux web server problem! (David Petryga)
  Re: C++ templates: More than Turing Complete? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Mars /Novell conf. ("Kelvin R. Dam")
  Q: Time Synch (Saeser)
  Re: Would Linux be good for this? (Rod Smith)
  Re: What to do with log of rejected packets? (Barry Margolin)
  Re: PPP fails after ISP "upgraded" (Clifford Kite)
  Debugging inetd (Patrik Carlsson)
  RedHat 6.0: rpc.mountd process grows and grows. ("Rex Dieter")
  Re: C++ templates: More than Turing Complete? (Ulrich Weigand)
  Network card ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "ardog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help on Linux and Win98
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:27:00 +0800

step 1. make a new directory for later use
        #mkdir /dos
step 2. mount use win98's partition to /dos
        #mount /dev/hda1 /dos
notice: you must use root account to do it. now you
happy with your linux and win98.

I am not living in American, know nothing about AOL.

Goodmeng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have Win98 and RH6.0 installed on the same hard drive.
> My ISP is AOL. The tech support told me AOL doesn't support Linux yet.
> 1) Is there a way to see the Win98 downloaded files from Linux in my
situation?
> If it works, then I can download files using AOL4.0 for Windows and use
them in
> Linux. My Win98 if partitioned as FAT.
> 2) I know most ISP supprt PPP connection. Anybody know if AOL does? If
yes,
> what is the DNS IP?
> Thank you very much.
> Joe



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Hinds)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: cs: Unable to map card memory!
Date: 25 Aug 1999 20:57:05 GMT

Paul Waite ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: 
: cardmgr[189]: executing: 'insmod
: /lib/modules/2.0.36/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o'
: kernel: pcnet_cs: RequestIO: No more items
: cardmgr[316]: get dev info on socket 0 failed: Operation not supported
: by device
: 
: I have PCMCIA Card Services 3.0.13.

Hmmm.  Send me the output of "dump_cis".

-- Dave

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Petryga)
Subject: Please help!  Linux web server problem!
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:49:20 GMT

Hello all!

I recently set up my Linux box as an Apache web server.  I got a cable modem 
package that grants me a few static IPs so I actually have a full time 
connection to the internet.

Once Apache was set up and my DNS was running, I tried the server and it seemed 
to work fine.  I was able to get at my web server through the internet (using 
the dial up connection I used to use before I got a cable modem).  However, 
when I asked a few friends to try out my server, they were unable to reach it. 
 I then started looking into the problem myself and, lo and behold, I was 
unable to reach my server through my dial up connection.  Well, I fiddled 
around a bit and then rebooted the server.  After rebooting everything was fine 
again.  I sent my friend a message telling him to try it again.  Then I left it 
alone.  Well, about a half an hour later, I just thought I would check up on 
the server and found that it was unreachable again.

So, this is where I am stumped.  Every time I reboot the server, it is fine for 
about 20 minutes and then it becomes unreachable.  My only theories at this 
point are 1) my cable modem service provider may use DHCP to provide me with my 
static IPs in which case, when the lease is renewed on the IP, the server can't 
deal with it or 2) I got something screwed up with my server.

Here's some specs just in case they are needed:

RedHat 6.0 using apache 1.3.6 (installed from the RedHat CD)
As far as I know, all of the appropriate domain records are in order and have 
been active since a couple weeks ago.

Can anyone provide any insight into what kind of problem I could be having?  
and what I can do to fix it?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

David


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: C++ templates: More than Turing Complete?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:41:34 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <7pu50r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>            [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Ulrich Weigand" writes:
> > Eh?  C++ is of course Turing complete, but so is every assembly
language
> > to which it might be compiled ...  I don't know of *any* programming
> > language in real use that is *not* Turing complete, b.t.w.;
>
> How about the C preprocessor?
>
> > there isn't
> > really much that is necessary to achieve Turing completeness (if you
> > have something like elementary arithmetic, assignment, and
conditional jump,
> > that's already enough ...).
    ^^^^^^ I don't agree with the above. In all
Turing-complete models, e.g. a Turing Machine,
a Unlimited Register Machine, one crucial component
is potential infinity or unboundedness. E.g. a
Turing machine at any given moment in a computation
has a finite # of cells on the tape, but there
is no upper bound to how many we can add to the
tape if necessary. Similarly, with the Unlimited
Register Machine, a particular program only uses
a finite # of registers of the countably infinite
# of machine regs, BUT the contents of each
register is a unbounded natural #!!!! On a "real world"
machine, the contents of a memory cell or a register are
bounded!!! I.e. real machines are finite, i.e. cannot
handle unboundedness. Or to put anyway, we can have overflow.
Hence, I would say real machines are Turing-bounded!!

Regards,

Bill Halchin

Sorry, I saw later post where it said this  should be in other
group but I wanted to correct what I see as a misunderstanding
of Turing complete.


> >

>
> --
> Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


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From: "Kelvin R. Dam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mars /Novell conf.
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:38:56 +0200

Hi There!

I'm a newbie to mars, so I would appriciate any help on this.

I know that I can configure mars in /etc/nwserv.conf, but I badly need
some good tips, and
perhabs an example of the file.

(any links would be nice too ;-)

Thx

Kelvin Dam



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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:18:27 -0500
From: Saeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: Time Synch

Possibly this has been addressed before....

How does one time synch a Linux machine with a NTWorkstation (which will
be the time server-connected locally)?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Would Linux be good for this?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:45:11 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Eric Sotnak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm wondering whether linux would be good for the following:
> 
> Suppose I have a mac G3, an older powermac, and a PC P-III 450.  I want
> to
> network the three together so that all can use the same printer(s), and
> share
> files (instead of putting everything on zip disks).
> 
> If I get ahold of an older model cheap pc, would it be a decent setup to
> install
> linux on it and use it exclusively as a network server for the other 3
> computers?  The 3 computers are used for a lot of
> graphics-intensive stuff (mainly pagemaker and photoshop).

Yup, Linux will work quite well in such a setup.  Most Linux distributions
don't include Netatalk, though, so you'll need to get it and install it
separately.  (Netatalk is the most commonly-used Linux package for Mac
networking.)  There are a couple of caveats:

1) Depending on just how old that "older model cheap pc" is and what you
   want to do, you may find performance lacking.  I wouldn't want to run
   really massive disk-intensive stuff over a 10Mbps network connection to
   a system with a five-year-old IDE hard disk, for instance.
2) Netatalk and Samba (Linux's Windows file sharing system) use different
   methods for file locking, so having Mac and Windows users try to access
   the same files at the same time can get ugly.  Accessing the same files
   at DIFFERENT times from these platforms isn't a problem, though.

-- 
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: What to do with log of rejected packets?
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:59:36 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthew J. Hellman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Runnig a Linux box with Masquerading and packet filtering.  I'm Logging
>all kinds of rejected packets from various IP's using all sorts of
>ports.  Is it generally a good idea to try and track down where these
>packets are coming from and why or is that an essentially endless and
>useless task?

Unless you're planning on prosecuting, I think it's almost a worthless
task.  The most you might accomplish if you find the perpetrator is that
his ISP account would be taken away.  So he'll just get an account with
another ISP and go on his merry way.

If you see something that looks like a concentrated attempt to gain
intrusion into commercially important systems, you might try harder to
track them down.  It might be industrial espionage, rather than a random
script kiddie.

-- 
Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GTE Internetworking, Powered by BBN, Burlington, MA
*** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups.
Please DON'T copy followups to me -- I'll assume it wasn't posted to the group.

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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: PPP fails after ISP "upgraded"
Date: 25 Aug 1999 12:48:45 -0500

Stephen Moehle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: Recently my ISP, GST/Whole Earth Networks if you are familiar with them,
: "upgraded" their systems.  Since then I have not been able to get PPP to
: work.  I can log in ok, but the PPP negotiation fails with the error
: "Could not determine remote IP address" from pppd.  My setup is stock
: x86 RedHat 6.0.  pppd is version 2.3.7, and the kernel is 2.2.5.  I have
: included the pppd log below, but I am afraid I do not know enough to

[edited]

: Aug 24 18:34:05 localhost pppd[526]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr
: 0.0.0.0>]

Here pppd requests that the ISP give pppd an IP address for itto use
during the connection.  That's entirely normal.

: Aug 24 18:34:05 localhost pppd[526]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <compress
: VJ 0f 00> <addr 0.0.0.0>]

Here the ISP requests that pppd give the ISP an address for it to use
during the connection.  That's not normal.

: Aug 24 18:34:05 localhost pppd[526]: sent [IPCP ConfRej id=0x1 <compress
: VJ 0f 00> <addr 0.0.0.0>]

So pppd rejects that option.  But it doesn't work since the ISP is now
configured wrongly.

You can complain to the ISP but it's not likely to do any good since
you run Linux.  MS products must accept the 0.0.0.0 as the remote's IP
address or provide a real IP address for it.

You should be able to use a reserved IP address, say 192.168.0.1, with
pppd's IP addresses option in this way:

   :192.168.0.1

to give the remote an IP address it can use as yours for the connection.

Note that your IP address for Internet connections is the one the ISP
gives you.  The reserved address you give the remote will only be used
for the PPP interface at the remote.

--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com>                    Not a guru. (tm)
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From: Patrik Carlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Debugging inetd
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:44:57 +0200

Hi!

I just did a very stupid thing - I turned on inetd debugging and
rebooted my RH 5.2 Linux box
and now I can't log in. I get no logon screen, instead I get the
debugging info! Also, I can't ssh, telnet or ftp to it. Trying the
boot/rescue disk doesn't help. When using the latter it says
something that it can't create a console...

Any tips?

--Patrik



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From: "Rex Dieter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 6.0: rpc.mountd process grows and grows.
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:35:44 -0500

We have a RedHat 6.0 machine (kernel 2.2.9) with 256MB RAM acting as an NFS
server, with moderate use from various NFS clients (Linux RH 6.0 and
NEXTSTEP primarily).  After not too much time (say a day or two), the
rpc.mountd process grows to be VERY large, here's an example of an
rpc.mountd's process information (from top)after running for just 1 day:
PID    USER    PRI     NI    SIZE    RSS    SHARE    STAT    LIB    %CPU
%MEM    TIME    COMMAND
xxxx   root    4       0     159M    143M   433        S     0      0.0
56.8    3:40    rpc.mountd

Eventually, this process grows and grows and eventually dies.  At that time,
I have to restart the daemon.  No apparent useful information seems to be
logged to /var/log/messages.

Is this expected behavior?  Can anything be done?

--
Rex Dieter
Computer System Administrator
Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska Lincoln


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ulrich Weigand)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: C++ templates: More than Turing Complete?
Date: 25 Aug 1999 23:36:06 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[ I wrote: ]
>> if you have something like elementary arithmetic, assignment, and
>> conditional jump, that's already enough ...

>I don't agree with the above. In all
>Turing-complete models, e.g. a Turing Machine,
>a Unlimited Register Machine, one crucial component
>is potential infinity or unboundedness. 
[snip]
>Similarly, with the Unlimited
>Register Machine, a particular program only uses
>a finite # of registers of the countably infinite
># of machine regs, BUT the contents of each
>register is a unbounded natural #!!!! 

Indeed, I should have been more precise: by 'elementary arithmetic'
I meant arithmetic on (arbitrary) natural numbers.

If everything is bounded, you just have a finite state automaton,
which certainly isn't Turing complete ;-)

>On a "real world"
>machine, the contents of a memory cell or a register are
>bounded!!! I.e. real machines are finite, i.e. cannot
>handle unboundedness. Or to put anyway, we can have overflow.
>Hence, I would say real machines are Turing-bounded!!

You do have a floppy drive in your machine, don't you ;-)
As long as you swap floppies (and buy new ones) as required
by the program, that's all the unboundedness you need ...

-- 
  Ulrich Weigand,
  IMMD 1, Universitaet Erlangen-Nuernberg,
  Martensstr. 3, D-91058 Erlangen, Phone: +49 9131 85-7688

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Network card
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:34:09 GMT

Does any one know if the YCL chipset ethernet card works in linux? I
have the card, it works with windows, but does not work in linux. I
cannot disable the plug and pray (unless someone tells me how) I don't
have the driver disks. I checked the proc/interupts and did not see it
there, nore was there another device on interupt 5 (which windows was
using).



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