Are you sure about your monitor's sync rates?

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From: "James Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "linux-newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:23 PM
Subject: more X problems


> Ok. I think I've now got my X problems down to more standard issues on
> this mnimal Slack 8.1 install (2.4.18 kernel). I was able to get the
> updated kernel to run, and I am no longer getting the crash with its log.
> But something is still wrong. I got the new kernel going, went through
> xf86config again. This time, I managed to find some sync values for my
> monitor (14" epson extended vga -old!) which I entered in (30-35.5; 70)
> and selected my S3 Trio 64V+ video card. There was a caveat about this
> card being "basically unsupported" - whatever that means. So, now, when I
> go "startx" from the command line, the HD runs and things seem to be
> happening, but the screen goes blank and just sits there. By "blank" I
> mean that it goes dark - like screen blanking when you have no screen
> saver. And, it just sits there. I expect it to give some sort of
> background - like crosshatching - and for an "X' to appear for the mouse
> cursor. But no such thing ever happens. It just sits there blank (no
> message about a server crash, no odd activity like HD churning). So, I'm
> not quite sure where to go from here. Could someone advise me? I
> should also mention that I don't have a window manager configured yet,
> though I do have one installed - fvwm95. I assume that is a window manager
> because it has the letters "wm" in its name (hope I'm right). But I
> just don't know if I need a window manager to get any display at all out
> of X.
>
> In closing, I'll just reaffirm my state of confusion regarding the way
> the gui works under Linux. Despite Ray's helpful comments to some
> questions I posed on this list earlier about how it all works, I've become
> even more confused. There are things called, for example, "gdm" or "kdm".
> I take the "dm" part to stand for "display manager." But I don't know how
> display managers relate to window managers or the other things connected
> with X that I asked about previously. Then, there are "session managers,"
> which are also a subject of confusion in all this. To top it all off, I
> read an article at Linuxworld on X and Linux display that claimed that
> Gnome and KDE are *not* window managers, but rather thay they *contain* a
> window manager. So this seems some sort of meta-category with regard to
> the 3 part scheme Ray provided in his helpful comments. I don't know if
> I'll ever be able to grasp all this. But this can give an idea of how
> little I know and thus what help might be suitable to offer with respect
> to my X problems.
>
> Hopefully, you won't say "go back to Windows, you dummy!" :)
>
> Thanks, James
>
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