Nope, Pine works great with a standard ppp connect to any isp.
Here is my paper on using Pine and sorting the mail as it comes in:
PINE AND PROCMAIL FOR SORTED MAIL
KARL LARSEN
JAN 1998
USE PINE:
If your planning to run your internet service on Linux then
here are some ideas that will make doing this a lot simpler than it
was for me. First decide if you are going to use Pine as your mail
server. Pine is recommended by me because it's very versital.
Also decide if your going to use a internet provider that
gives you a fixed IP number or a Dynamic number. As a rule you must
pay much more for a static IP unless your at a University.
With a Dynamic IP number you will need to set up your pine
so that your internet address is that on your Internet Provider's
computer. You can send out e-mail and run Netscape with a Dynamic IP
but you must POP your e-mail to your computer from time-to-time.
To do this run pine and in the Main window type s and then c.
This puts you in the configuration window that looks like the one
below:
personal-name = Karl F. Larsen
user-domain = whc.net
smtp-server = <204.90.111.1>
nntp-server = <No Value Set>
inbox-path = <No Value Set: using "inbox">
folder-collections = <No Value Set: using "mail/[]">
Notice that the second item is "user-domain". What you want to put
there is the letters that follow the @ in your internet address. An
example is [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the user-domain is nmsu.edu
Save this change and now all your mail will carry the address
of your internet server. Here is another thought. My real internet
address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the user-domain shown above, whc.net,
but to get the return address to show [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had to create a
user who is k5di. No problem doing this. As root use adduser and
follow the prompts. Under "smtp-server" put that in if you need it.
Pine has many configuration possibilities and the most useful
are the ability to have multiple message areas. And using other
software called "Procmail" The next section tells you how to set up
these software.
This section deals with sorting mail in to folders. It will
also cover setting pine up so you have a personal folder collection
area. Pine doesn't sort mail by itself, instead relying on Procmail
and it's configuration file .procmailrc to do it for you. This is a
good thing, and you can define many message areas in .procmailrc and
read them with Pine.
First, let make sure that pine is ready to read these
folders. Start Pine and your in the main menu. If you reading this in
pine pressing 'm' after you are done will bring you to the main menu.
Now you will need to press 's' then 'c' to get to the configuration
menu. Look for this line: 'incoming-archive-folders'. It is on the
first screen. Change it to read something like
incoming-archive-folders = mail/folders[] Note: mail is a directory,
use just for folders. You should make sure it exists. Don't use this
directory for anything else except mail.
Now we, going to look for this field: [ ]
enable-incoming-folders. Press 'w' and type "enable-inc" press enter
and you will be at the right place. Now press enter and then X. Now
it should look like:
[X] enable-incoming-folders
Now press 'e' and 'y' and your back in the Main Menu and done with
configuring Pine.
POPING THE MAIL:
I have found that "popclient" does not work well and
"fetchpop" works just great for getting your e-mail. Get fetchpop
from your linux cd-rom, as I did, or from sunsite.url.edu and compile
it on your linux computer. Then read the README and the man pages
that are well written.
At this time I run Fetchpop from a bash file called
checkmail. I run it when I want to pop mail to my computer. First of
course I need to start the ppp system and connect to my ISP. This is
done by an application on my Xwindow system. So at the xterm window
for the k5di login I type 'checkmail' and all mail found is put into
a file I have determined to use. In my case that file is:
/home/k5di/mail-stuff/mail-in
PROCMAIL SETUP:
Now it's time to make the file .procmailrc in your root
directory. My root is /home/k5di. Use your favorite editor for this
step.
Make the top 2 lines look exactly like below:
VERBOSE=off
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
One thing to remember with procmail is that it doesn't expand
the ~/ to your home directory. So you must use the proper address for
your home directory which will be /home/your's.
Now to the sorting part. :) I'm going to give a
recipe (term used in man procmail) that is in actual use. Then I
will discuss how it works.
----------------snip------------------
:0:
*^Return-Path:.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
/home/grycloak/mail/Linux_Newbies
----------------end snip--------------
Now to explain how this works:
:0:
The first ':' marks the beginning of a recipe.
The '0'is the rule set. (For sorting and kill file it always 0)
The last ':' tells procmail to use a local lock file.
There is lots to the above line and you can get far more complex. That
is beyond the scope of this paper.
Now to the last two. Lines, This is where the real work goes on.
*^Return-Path:.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The * marks the the start of a condition. FYI mine are started with a
tab as the first character on a line. The ^ marks the beginning of a
line.
Now for the rest of it. The Return-Path: is a header at the top of
the email. Pressing 'h' while in an email will show these. I simply
cut and paste the headers I wanted to put in the .procmailrc file.
(oh, note the dot before the name. It is important) That dot between
the ":" and the "<" is used like a wild card. Here is a snippet on
it from man procmailrc:
". Any character except a newline"
The second line is where we want to put the email. (If the
folder doesn't exist procmail will create it. If it does, procmail
will append files to it) Here is the line.
/home/grycloak/mail/Linux_Newbies
^ ^
|_ tab |_ path and filename
To kill files you would put /dev/null as path.
I recommend reading man procmailrc and man procmail for further
reading. There is a lot of power in procmail that blows you away.
Here are two more ways to kill file and a fancy sort. The procmail
recipes are actual work recipes on my system.
:0:
*^Return-Path:.*owner-alert.*
/home/grycloak/mail/ISS_Security_Alert
:0:
*^Return-Path:.*<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
/dev/null
One extra note, a blank line must exist between recipes and '#'
are treated as comments.
As another example of a .procmail file is shown below. It is
working now on this system:
VERBOSE=off
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
:0:
*^To:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]*
/home/k5di/mail/My-Mail
:0:
*^Reply-To:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]*
/home/k5di/mail/bbs
:0:
*^Return-Path:.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
/home/k5di/mail/Linux_Newbies
:0:
*^To:.*linux-newbie*
/home/k5di/mail/Linux_Newbies
:0:
*^To:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]*
/home/k5di/mail/FBB
:0:
*^Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/home/k5di/mail/W5GB
:0:
*^Cc:.*linux-newbie*
/home/k5di/mail/Linux_Newbies
:0:
*^Cc:.*linux-hams*
/home/k5di/mail/Linux-Hams
:0:
*^Cc:.*tcpaz*
/home/k5di/mail/AZ-Hams
:0:
*^To:.*tcpaz*
/home/k5di/mail/AZ-Hams
:0:
*^To:.*linux-hams*
/home/k5di/mail/Linux-Hams
:0:
*^Subject:.*
/home/k5di/mail/Other
The last recipe catches every message not taken care of and puts it
in a folder called Other. I read what's in other and that often tells
me what I need to add to .procmailrc.
A final file needs to be made that starts procmail. This is
done wirh a bash script that you can copy.
----------------------------------
#!/bin/sh
ORGMAIL=/home/k5di/mail-stuff/mail-in
if cd $HOME &&
test -s $ORGMAIL &&
lockfile -r0 -l3600 .newmail.lock 2>/dev/null
then
trap "rm -f .newmail.lock" 1 2 3 15
umask 077
lockfile -l3600 -ml
cat $ORGMAIL >>.newmail &&
cat /dev/null >$ORGMAIL
lockfile -mu
formail -s procmail <.newmail &&
rm -f .newmail
rm -f .newmail.lock
fi
exit 0
---------------------------------
This file you make exicutable with chmod 755 filename. I call this
bash script with my other one that calls fetchpop. Or you can just
add the fetchpop line at the top of this file. Change ORGMAIL= to be
the file fetchpop puts the unsorted mail into.
On Thu, 30 Jul 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is anyone using PINE with a dial-in line to the internet. Something with a
> dynamic address?
>
> I find I can send Email OUT only with PINE but can't pick any up. Does this
> mean I need a static ip address before this will work?
>
>
>
> Ted Gervais 07/30/98 01:03pm
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Coldbrook, NS Canada
> 902-679-2253
>
Best wishes
- Karl F. Larsen, 3310 East Street, Las Cruces,NM (505) 524-3303 -
