LENGARD,

Thanks for the detailed and helpful response.  I did manage to solve my
problems even before my message showed up on the list, but I do
appreciate your input.

LENGARD Pascal OCISI wrote:
> 
> Redhat comes with very handy tools to get your ppp link working. As you
> seem not to be confortable with unix yet, you might want to use these
> tools.

You are absoulutely correct in that I'm not comfortable in unix yet, but
I'm a lot more comfortable than I was a couple days ago :o)

> try linuxconf and control-panel, they both have the ability to configure
> your ppp link.

I've gone into the control-panel but haven't used linuxconf yet.  I will
look into it.

> Once made, they've got buttons (under X) to initiate the connexion, but
> you can use "/sbin/ifup ppp0" and "/sbin/ifdown ppp0" to initiate and
> terminate you connexion.

I didn't see the buttons, and am not yet familiar with /sbin/ifup(/down)
ppp0, but I will look them up.  Thanks for the recommendation.

> 
> Redhat configures the system in its own way (in the directory
> /etc/sysconf). I discourage you to put thing you get elsewhere when it
> already exists in redhat. For example copying scripts in /etc/ppp might
> break the utilities like linuxconf and control-panel which might expect
> to find something else here.

Maybe I'm just lucky, but the scripts and everything else seem happy
with the scripts resting in /etc/ppp.  But I agree with your caution,
and in general I try not to move things around as I did.

> 
> By the way,
> the ppp-* files are just scripts, yes as are *.bat in dos ... so i don't
> undestand your question.

My ppp-on script is in /etc/ppp which was my current directory.  I was
entering "ppp-on".  I wasn't aware it was necessary to enter "./ppp" or
"/etc/ppp/ppp-on". (I still don't see why, but I accept it :o)  )  I
just assumed that linux wouldn't recoginze the script, just as dos
wouldn't recognize a batch file w/o the .bat extension.

> these scripts are suppose to use chat to initiate the phone link and then
> launch pppd get in network.

Yep, I found that out after I posted my query.  I didn't recognize the
reference at first when I looked at the script.  Seems easy now that
I've done it.

> minicom is only used to test the connexion by hand and detect if you need
> pap/chap ou nothing(login+passwd). There is no need to use a terminal
> emulation when you want the link automated (chat deals with this part of
> the connexion).
> 
> Hope this help

Yes it does.  Thank you.

Tom - still a newbie, but not quite as bad.

> 
>  -----Message d'origine-----
> De: Tom Bernett [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Date: vendredi 11 d�cembre 1998 14:57
> �: Linux Newbie
> Objet: Getting ppp-on to work.
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Total newbie here.  I'm using RH5.2
> 
> I've managed to get online manually by establishing a ppp session in
> minicom, and then issuing the command "pppd /dev/modem...."
> 
> Now I want to automate the process.  I found the ppp-on, on-dialer, &
> 
> off scripts and copied them to /etc/ppp and modified them as necessary.
> 
> I think I understand things to this point.  But the ppp-* files are just
> scripts.  Where's the executable (like a *.bat in DOS).  The ppp-howto
> 
> and the newsgroup archives imply that all that's needed is to create the
> files, put them where you can access them, and run by entering ppp-on.
> 
> All I get is "commnand not found".  What am I missing?
> 
> Also, the scripts have no provision for minicom (or any other
> dialer/terminal program) as far as I can see.  Just what is the process
> 
> for automating logon/logoff?  Again, the howto and archives were no help
> to me.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom

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