I'v reordered your questions a bit below before answering.

At 10:28 AM 2/14/99 -700, Ken Walker wrote [edited]:

>Is there a way to get Linux to print the startup msgs to a file and 
>to print the msgs on the kde install to a file so I can show them to 
>someone?

Yes. For the startup messages -- right after booting, log in (as root) and
enter:

dmesg > startup.msg

and the startup messages will be put into startup.msg (or any filename you
use there). Some of them will already be in /var/log/messages . For a kde
install, you can use the same method of redirecting console output, except
you'll need to say someting like

kdeinstall > kdeoutput 2>&1

replacing "kdeinstall" with whatever command you actually use to do the
installation. (This is a genreal procedure applicable to anything you run
from the command line.)

>As the system boots, I see several messages go by saying that my 
>scripts for ppp had an unexpected end of file trying to find "" .

We need to see the actual messages. The prior answer should let you find them.
  
Go to /var/log/messages and find the messages from pppd and whatever dialer
you were using (before kppp, it was probably chat). Post the messages from
*one* failed connection (should be about a dozen messages). Also post the
contents of whatever you use to run pppd in non-kde mode (possibly
/usr/sbin/ppp-on, but that varies by distribution) -- but be sure to delete
any password info from these postings. Try adding "debug" to the pppd
command-line switches or options and see if the additional log info helps.

>From the desktop I can get my modem to dial and using minicom I can 
>get into the log on sequence with my ISP but it is very slow (i.e. 
>remmber 300 baud, it is slower than that I think) and I can't get 
>past the log on sequence.  

What does the last sentence mean? Does the system simply hang? Or do you
get, for example, an "invalid userid/password" message from the other end?

I've omitted the rest of your message because I can't help with those questions.

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