Hi Tim: At 11:37 AM 7/4/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Dear friends, > >I have decided to put together a website dedicated to linux advocacy to >kids, namely humans below the age of 18. > >Now, response to this idea of late has been negative to downright >hateful, espescially from many of the code hackers... though I belive >that it is neccessary to promote this neat os of ours to the younger >people, as in most cases, we all know that the kids won't learn about >linux in the schools. > Not being a "HACKER" (as opposed to "hacker" which I am), I fail to see why this concept should bring negative response. We were all kids at one time, (some of us several times, hehe). They obviously don't realize some of the contributions that the younger generation (under 18) have made. After all, many of the old Unix "HACKERS" are old fuddies by now, perhaps even ancient, maybe over 40!!. (Don't knock it, I'm 55). >I feel this project is going to be much bigger then myself. I have the >server (Running 6.1) for web page and e-mail, and I have the idea, but I >lack focus and planning, I even have the domain name (linuxforkids.org). >I know you are all busy folks. > Projects like this do tend to grow in scope and endeavor. I've cross posted this message on two other 'newbie' lists and between the three lists there is plenty of expertise and knowledge to cover any subject. My personal area is hardware and medical electronics but there are others with broad or specialized knowledge. >Currently what I have in mind is a site with screenshots of Gnome and K >running games, and links to other places where kids could find info and >things they need to get started. Links to loki and linuxgames... Things >to get them hooked on this great operating system of ours. > >I know this might be a bit off topic, but I think advocacy is just as >important as helping each other out. We have helped each other alot >since this list was started, and I think we could bring more into the >fold. > >Thank you for your time, > >Tim. >-- Helping each other out is a form of advocacy. We're always willing to provide help and answers. Heck, some of the best questions come from kids, they sometimes have a much different outlook and way of seeing things that us older folks have put our blinders on to. I've done some work with kids on computers and they often ask "why can't I xxxxxx?". You can really learn something when you try to explain why not and they come back with a solution after working on it a while. Tom
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-- Tom Taylor Sr. Development Technician Telemedic Systems, Inc. 253.529.0526 Member: PSLUG http://sealinux.itsite.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
