I am back to the mouse issue. I really need to setup StarOffice for school and the 
only thing
stopping this is the mouse problem. I need a desktop other than Mac. I don't wanna 
have to convert
everything later and the instructors are sending me .doc files that I can't convert 
(for some reason)
with Appleworks or WordPerfect.

So here's the "so far".

Common factors: Red Hat 6.1, three meeces, gnome.

I'm now using my Microsoft "Basic" mouse which I've had working with my girlfriend's 
HP. So I know
the mouse is ok. But I have to use the ps/2 to serial adaptor on mine. Hers has a ps/2 
connection on
the back.

Here are the comparisons:

ps ax is showing:

both boxes have a gpm -t ps/2 entry.

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XFConfig is showing on my box:

Protocol "PS/2"
Device "/dev/ttyS0"

On hers:

Protocol "PS/2"
Device "dev/psaux"


(I checked the motherboard on mine and the serial port ribbon for the mouse is plugged 
into com1)

I have the serial mouse on my box set for irq 12 (I set it manually).

Anyone???

TIA,

John

Mike Werner wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 03, 2000 at 02:03:24PM -0700, John Starkey wrote:
> > Mike Werner wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 03, 2000 at 12:26:20AM -0700, John Starkey wrote:
> > > If you've got an Ethernet device showing up as /dev/ttyS0 either there is
> > > something badly wrong or this a device I've never heard of..  Ehternet
> > > devices should show up as /dev/ethx
> >
> > I'm wrong, I think. I do know that I'm thoroughly confused now. Based on what I 
>thought I knew.
>
> Oh, don't feel too bad.  When digging into hardware without already being
> somewhat familiar with the hardware it is not too difficult to get lost.
>
> > > Does setserial *actually* report eth0 and ppp0?  Or are you "translating"
> > > the output into what you think each ttySx is?  If the latter, please tell us
> > > *exactly* what setserial *actually* says.  And have you verified that
> > > /dev/mouse is linked to a /dev/ttySx instead of /dev/psaux?  The ppp0 should
> > > be your modem - the mouse will be the other serial port.
> >
> > /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
> > /dev/ttyS1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
> >
> > The other two are unknown.
> >
> > That explains why my eth0 shows up as 0x0300 but doesn't coincide with setserial's 
>output. (it
> > doesn't show up with setserial).
> >
> > What makes a serial device a serial device?? I understand serial and parallel but 
>I think this
> > is redefining things.
>
> Uhhh ... that's kinda difficult to define.  Technically a device can get
> classified as either serial or parallel depending on how it talks to the
> outside world.  If data travels one bit at a time down a single common wire
> it is a serial device.  If multiple bits can travel down a set of wires at
> the same time, then it's a parallel device.  That's paring it all down to
> the absolute basics - there's really a lot more to it then that.  But
> generally the designation of "serial" or "parallel" refers to the data
> transfer between the device and the computer.
>
> If I try and go much further with this definition I'll probably make a
> complete mess of it.  Is there anyone else here that can take a stab at
> laying this out?  It's one of those things that I pretty much know but
> can't really define to someone else.
>
> > > I think I might see a possible source of confusion here - try and follow
> > > me here.  You have an internal modem, right?  And your Ethernet card is
> > > plugged into the slot right next to it?  Therefore eth0 and ppp0 are the
> > > two serial devices?  If that's not right, ignore the rest of this section.
> > > If that's what happened - the physical location of a card rarely has any
> > > influence on what port number it is.  The modem (ppp0) will show up as a
> > > serial device because it has one of those UART chips I mentioned - modems
> > > are a serial device.  But just because the modem is plugged into an ISA
> > > slot does not mean that the card plugged into the ISA slot next to it will
> > > *also* be a serial device.  In fact that is rarely the case for a "regular"
> > > home system.
> >
> > You hit the nail on the head here. I was assuming that the slots corresponded to 
>the setserial
> > entries. Thanks. This clears things up. And explains a lot of my previous 
>confusion.
> >
> > If it has a UART it is a serial device??? So is there any other standard component 
>that can have
> > a UART. I don't have anything else on this system. A couple HDs, eth0, ppp0, 
>monitor, floppy,
> > tape, cdrom. If not then one of those setserial entries is my mouse right???
>
> To put it *very* basically, yes.  A serial device will have a UART or
> be able to make the system *think* it has one.  Still putting it *very*
> basically serial devices are things like pointing devices and modems.
> Pointing devices also come in PS/2 varieties, but as you've seen those
> be plugged into a serial port via an adaptor.  As I understand it the PS/2
> protocol is similar to the serial protocol, which is why you can use that
> adaptor.
>
> And if what you listed is all there is to your system, then your mouse
> will be either ttyS0 or ttyS1.  The other * should* be your modem.
> --
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