Ahhh! I get it! It took me a coupe of days to realize what this ment. 

Thanks Chris. 

Here's the deal, the laptop has a pccard modem and network card (two seperate
cards, not a combo). When the network card is plugged in I get the ppp error,
eject the network card, and voila, ppp works. 

Apearently the cards must be sharing resources  (IRQ or something, perhaps
someone eles can shed better light on this), such that when pppd is run it
already sees a connection and doesn't even try to run chat, and then I get the
error.

Disconnect from the network, and zing pppd runs the chat script and it works.

Thanks all for your help. Now what I'ld really like to do is be able to have
both cards running at the same time (with pppd connected to a remote site
while the network is connected to the LAN). Any insite?

Chris Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hmm I seem to get this error when I try to run the ppp-on script a second
> time (after it's already connected) I doubt that this is the case, but
maybe
> it will help to find some more ideas as to the cause of the problem
> Regards,
> Chris Bennett
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       Friday, March 17, 2000 12:29 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:    Re: ppp won't
> > 
> > Look in files ~/.ppprc and /etc/ppp/options for options
> > 
> > auth
> > login
> > +pap
> > +chap
> > 
> > or file <filename> that points to a file that has one of them.  I don't
> > know of any other way to provoke that error.
> > 
> > On 16 Mar 2000, Robert Haehnel wrote:
> > 
> > > I get the following error when trying to inilize a ppp conection from
> > my lap
> > > top:
> > > 
> > > /usr/sbin/pppd: The remote system (bis) is required to authenticate
> > itself but
> > > I
> > > /usr/sbin/pppd: couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to
> > use to
> > > do so.
> > > bis: pppd failure at 04:09PM Thu Mar 16, 2000
> > > 
> > > the command line I use is:
> > > 
> > > /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/modem 19200 connect '/usr/bin/eznet chat 0' lock
> > modem mtu
> > > 552 mru 552 debug crtscts -detach idle 120 user root remotename bis
> > > 
> > > The 'eznet chat 0' part is a chat script put together by the program
> > eznet.
> > > This all works perfectly on my desktop using a USR sportster modem. I
> > am using
> > > RH 6.0 on both machines with pppd 2.3. 
> > > 
> > > I can dial out using minicom and connect to the remote site on the lap
> > top,
> > > but not using eznet and pppd.
> > > 
> > > Any ideas, oh, BTW it's a Xircom PC card Modem, but as I said it works
> > fine
> > > with minicom. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > 
> > > R. Haehnel
> > > 
> > Lawson
> > 
> > 
> > "The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy
> > way to factor large prime numbers." - Bill Gates "The Road Ahead" p265
> > 
> > 
> > 
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