On Tue, 30 May 2000, Ray Olszewski wrote about, Re: Printing in Linux:
> At 08:26 PM 5/30/00 +0000, Richard Adams wrote [in part]:
>
> >I also hope that i am not poking my nose in where it is possably not wanted.
>
> Don't be silly, Richard. This is in good part why I try to keep these
> discussions on the list ... so that someone else (you, Lawson, Greg, others)
> can fill in details I don't know or miss (or occasionally get flat-out
> wrong). This QC role is an important part of what makes a list like
> linux-newbie valuable.
Yes open discussions are far better.
I have known Ted for quite a while now.
>
> The problem with figuring out whether permissions are right is that there
> are many choices that can be "right" as long as permisisons for other things
> are consistent. In the case at hand, lpr and lpd don't need to run suid if
> /dev/lp0, all the /var/spool/lp*/* files, and whatever filters are being
> used are all mode 666.
The pity on this one is that i rearly use my printer, i remember Ted asking
me a while back about printing, i think my comments were does 'cat filename
/dev/lp0' work, he said yes and i said well whats wrong then and we seem to
have left it at that.
>
> But if some of them are mode 644 (as /dev/lp0 often is), then lpr or lpd
> needs to be suid or sgid to access the device. This is how Debian does it,
> and, from what you write, apparently Slackware and RH as well. Of course, in
> this scenario, an unpriveleged user can't do (for example) "cat somefile
> >/dev/lp0", hbecause he can't access the device. I assume this is why Ted
> changed /dev/lp0 to 666; he just inadvertantly changed its ownership at the
> same time. No big deal, unless he's on a system with a lot of users where
> restricting access to the lp0 device actually matters.
>
> The changes of ownership of lpd, to:
>
> -rwxr--r-- 1 ve1drg lp 41836 Apr 5 1999 lpd*
>
> may matter more; only ve1drg (and root, of course) can run this program, and
> since it isn't setuid or setgid, it might be unable to access, for example,
> the spool directory. Not sure here, cause I don't quite see how lpr and lpd
> interact given this state of aaffairs.
I dont quite know, but if your synopsis is correct then this is Ted's
problem, i just read in a personal from him that he wants to print from
within pine.
I cant comment on that either as i use kmail.
>
> As to vger, it seems a bit slow today, but not extraordinarily so. I just
> checked a message Lawson posted, and vger introduced about 45 minutes of
> delay, and the .fi relay it uses to mail to me no more than 5 minutes more.
> You might see if your Received: headers give you anything in the way of
> clues about the source of your problem.
Yes, i just checked, i am getting reply's to mails about 45 minutes before
i get the origanal mail, i'n not particulary bothered about it as its 'hit
the hay time folks' and my dam alarm clock is gonna tik away like a time
bomb for 6 hours then explode, ;-)
Thanks for the responce.
>
> ------------------------------------"Never tell me the odds!"---
> Ray Olszewski -- Han Solo
> Palo Alto, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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