Hello Andry,
Tuesday, April 09, 2002, 6:20:11 PM, you wrote:

AS> Saya ingin tanya:
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AS> 4.Apa aja sih keunggulan .NET dan kekurangannya?
AS> 5.Apa pula kekurangan dan kelebihan J2EE?
AS> 6.Selain java, bahasa pemograman apa yang jalan di
AS> mesin-nya Sun?
AS> Harap maklum dengan pertanyaan saya ini, karena saya
AS> masih awam dengan Enterprise programming, apalagi
AS> mesin Sun itu sendiri, yang katanya pakai procesor
AS> Ultra SPARC III, dan sebentar lagi akan menggunakan
AS> Ultra SPARC IV(menurut orang Sun)?
AS> Thanks,
AS> Andry.

dr orang awam juga ^^;
kebetulan pernah dapetin perbandingan antara J2EE dan .Net..di
java.sun.com kalo ngga salah (atau download aja di
www.middleware-company.com, pdf, 1.62MB judulnya J2EE vs .NET)...

isinya : (perbandingannya aja) copy&paste....

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Arguments supporting both platforms (J2EE & .NET)

�  Regardless  of which platform you pick, new developers will need to
be trained (Java training for J2EE, OO training for .NET)
� You can build web services today using both platforms
�  Both  platforms offer a low system cost, such as jBoss/Linux/Cobalt
for J2EE, or Windows/Win32 hardware for .NET.
� Both platforms offer a single-vendor solution.
� The scalability of both solutions are theoretically unlimited.

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Arguments for .NET and against J2EE

� .NET has Microsoft's A-team marketing it
� .NET released their web services story before J2EE did, and thus has
some mind-share
� .NET has a better story for shared context today than J2EE
� .NET has an awesome tool story with Visual Studio.NET
�  .NET  has  a  simpler  programming  model,  enabling  rank-and-file
developers to be productive without shooting themselves in the foot
�  .NET  gives  you  language neutrality when developing new eBusiness
applications, whereas J2EE makes you treat other languages as separate
applications
�  .NET  benefits  from being strongly interweaved with the underlying
operating system

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Arguments for J2EE and against .NET

� J2EE is being marketed by an entire industry
� J2EE is a proven platform, with a few new web services APIs. .NET is
a rewrite and introduces risk as with any first-generation technology
� Only J2EE lets you deploy web services today
�  Existing  J2EE  code will translate into a J2EE web services system
without major rewrites. Not true for Windows DNA code ported to .NET.
�  .NET  web  services  are  not  interoperable  with current industry
standards. Their BizTalk framework has proprietary SOAP extensions and
does not support ebXML.
�   J2EE  is  a  more  advanced  programming  model,  appropriate  for
well-trained  developers who want to build more advanced object models
and take advantage of performance features
� J2EE lets you take advantage of existing hardware you may have
�  J2EE gives you platform neutrality, including Windows. You also get
good  (but not free) portability. This isolates you from heterogeneous
deployment environments.
�  J2EE  has  a  better  legacy  integration  story  through  the Java
Connector Architecture (JCA)
�  J2EE lets you use any operating system you prefer, such as Windows,
UNIX,  or  mainframe. Developers can use the environment they are most
productive in.
�  J2EE lets you use Java, which is better than C# due to market-share
and  maturity.  According  to  Gartner,  there  are  2.5  million Java
developers.  IDC  predicts  this  will  grow to 4 million by 2003. 78%
universities teach Java, and 50% of universities require Java.
�  We  would  not  want  to use any language other than C# or Java for
development  of  new  missioncritical  solutions,  such  as  a  hacked
object-oriented version of C, VB, or COBOL.
�  We  are  finding most ISVs and consulting companies going with J2EE
because  they  cannot  control  their  customers' target platforms. We
believe this application availability will result in J2EE beginning to
dominate more and more as time goes on.

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CONCLUSION :
In  conclusion, while both platforms will have their own market-share,
we  feel  most customers will reap greater wins with J2EE. We feel the
advantages  outweigh  those  offered  by  Microsoft.NET.  That  is our
preferred architecture, and we stand behind it.

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denger2x  kalao  J2EE di windows jalanya lambat yah...trus MS kan juga
berusaha menjegal J2EE ya itu dengan cara tidak support javaVM lagi pada
IE 6.0nya...
.Net  source  codenya juga direlease (cari di msdn.com) dengan lisensi
shared source (sejenis open source tapi tidak sebebas open source).

Dr  apa  yg  aku  pernah  baca  .NET  rasanya  ditolak  oleh  beberapa
universitas  dan  mereka  lebih menyukai menggunakan Java...artikelnya
ada kok di slashdot.org beberapa hari yg lalu.

Nah gimana dengan dotGNU ????? kok ngga dibicarain sih ? harusnya J2EE
vs .Net vs dotGNU donk...biar rame hehehe...
(yg .GNU kok jarang denger yah...ini proyek serius apa ngga sih ?)

-- 
Best regards,
 adwin                            


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