On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 04:15:14PM -0700, Lawrence Dickson wrote:
> I am solidly with Daniel on this. Why does no one ever use the fact that
> a graphical interface can be put on top of a text mode interface (we have
> multitasking don't we?) and thus kept equivalent instead of divergent?
> It is self-documenting too at the developer level.
>    GUI means "Grossly Unpredictable Interface."

RH had to redo their installer.  It was _bad_.  I mean, the functionality
was good, but the code made it virtually impossible to extend in any sane
way.

Of course, it would have been nice, if they wrote a common ``core'', and
then slapped a GUI or curses front-end on it by user's choice.  But I'm
sure they had reasons for doing whatever they did.

Oh, I'm sensing a slight vibration from the way-off-topic alert system 
here    :)

>    On other topics, does 6.1 make any steps forward in hot-swapping
> robustness?

That would mean that they (which in turn probably means Ingo) did a kernel
patch that has not been released to us (the raid crash test dummies) for
wide testing.  To me that sounds as inappropriate as it sounds unlikely.

The hot-swapping robustness has two points of failure as I see it:
1)  With IDE disks, the hardware isn't usually well suited for it, although
    it is absolutely possible.  The Linux IDE subsystem is _rock_ solid.
2)  With SCSI disks, the Linux SCSI layer is too fragile to properly handle
    the errors that occur on the bus when you pull a device away (or a device
    fails).  This is unfortunate, because hot-swapping with SCSI would be
    obvious and people expect it to work.  But it seems as though a re-write
    of the SCSI layer will have to wait for 2.5.X.

If anyone else has more insight into this, I'd be delighted to hear about
it.

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