On Wed, 24 May 2000, Chris Mauritz wrote:

> For the cost of the LPr, you're probably better off going to someplace
> like Penguin Computing and have them roll something for you that's
> known to work.  It will likely be a bit cheaper too.

The deal with the LPr's though is there's a 2 for 1 promo.  At the 2 for 1
pricing (PIII-550 with 64mb is about 2750 IIRC...so $1375 each...but you
have to add more memory, disks, and in my case a RAID card) it's pretty
close to the price I'd pay to buy parts from a distributor like Tech Data.  
Vendors like Penguin or anyone else I'm aware of can't beat this kind of
price.  Based on current prices (if I could actually find Mylex
cards...which I can't) I can take one of these LPr's add an Acceleraid
card, 256mb of good memory, 2 IBM 9gb drives, and have spent about $2500
(not counting the hot swap brackets which may jack it up as much as $330
if the info I got today is accurate).  A similar box from Penguin is $2765
before adding a RAID card and doesn't appear to have hot-swap.  Add a RAID
card, and it's about $3200.  Even with the overpriced brackets, the LPr is
cheaper.  The other advantage to the LPr over buying parts is less parts
to hunt down and put together.  Parts shortages over the past few months
from Intel and Mylex are making it a PITA to build systems from parts.

> Personally, I found an outfit that has a 1 RU enclosure that has 2
> swappaple drive sleds (they do this by using an integrated floppy/CD
> device to save a bay).  They're designed for IDE disks.  I've been

Some of our colos have 1U cases with 2 hot-swap SCA SCSI drives.  I don't
think you can squeze a RAID card in any of these cases though.


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