On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 04:55:02PM +0100, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 08:48:42AM -0700, Brian Pomerantz wrote:
> 
> > > The real solution is probably not to increase the atomic I/O size, but
> > > rather to pipeline I/Os.  That is planned for the future, and now there
> > 
> > That really depends on the device characteristics.  This Ciprico
> > hardware I've been working with really only performs well if the
> > atomic I/O size is >= 1MB.  Once you introduce additional transactions
> > across the bus, your performance drops significantly.  I guess it is a
> > tradeoff between latency and bandwidth.  Unless you mean the low level
> > device would be handed a vector of kiobufs and it would build a single
> > SCSI request with that vector,
> 
> ll_rw_block can already do that, but...
> 
> > then I suppose it would work well but
> > the requests would have to make up a contiguous chunk of drive space.
> 
> ... a single request _must_, by definition, be contiguous.  There is
> simply no way for the kernel to deal with non-contiguous atomic I/Os.
> I'm not sure what you're talking about here --- how can an atomic I/O
> be anything else?  We can do scatter-gather, but only from scattered
> memory, not to scattered disk blocks.
> 

I may just be confused about how this whole thing works still.  I had
to go change the number of SG segments the QLogic driver allocates and
reports to the SCSI middle layer to a larger number otherwise the
transaction gets split up and I no longer have a single 1MB
transaction but four 256KB transactions.  The number of segments it
was set to was 32 (8KB * 32 = 256KB).  So the question I have is in
the end when you do this pipelining, if you don't increase the atomic
I/O size, will the device attached to the SCSI bus (or FC) still
receive a single request or will it quickly see a bunch of smaller
requests?  My point is, from my experiments with this RAID device, you
will run across situations where it is good to be able to make a
single SCSI request be quite large in order to achieve better
performance.


BAPper

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