What we're building is cross platform: win, linux, sgi.
Unfortunatly we have a deliverable in about a month and 
are looking to solve this asap.

Personally, I'm not for castrating the male connector or molesting 
the driver either.  I maybe up for foundling the ini files
though...after all they're old enough.

Thanks again,
-mya


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> 
> C'mon.  Do the Right Thing (TM).  Install linux and wine, and build your
> windose application that reads the raw mouse as a winelib
> program.  Force Micro$oft to buy back the software licenses.  :-)
> 
> On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Marwan Ansari wrote:
> 
> > Hi guys,
> >       I know this is has a windows question embedded in it
> >         but maybe you wouldnt mind taking a gander at it anyway.
> >
> >       We are trying to get windows to not realize that
> >       a device connected to it is a mouse so that we can
> >       read the raw input.  You see, if windows sees a mouse
> >       on the serial port and the ps2 port then both control
> >       the cursor. We want to see if we can prevent the serial
> >       mouse from being detected.
> >
> >       Since the mouse will return an "M" to the os
> >       when the DTR is toggled... two ideas have been proposed..
> >
> >         1) clip the DTR
> >             -- this just sounds so wrong to me. the DTR has
> >                got to be used for other things right?
> 
> _Something_ has got to provide power (not much, but some) for the
> electronics in the mouse.  I know at least some mice are powered by the
> signal between DTR and ground (thus toggling DTR resets the mouse).  The
> only control/status signals supplied by the DTE are DTR and RTS, and DTR
> is the logical one to use to power the electronics.
> 
> >           2) re-pin (?) the dtr to that it has a -12V on it at
> >                all times.   --- I dont think this will work
> >                either.
> >
> Just this once, I'm inclined to agree with you.
> 
> >         Do you guys have any ideas?  This really isnt a problem
> >         under linux but for windows its a realy pain.  Do you guys
> >       know of a way to prevent the os from using a mouse on the
> >         serial port?
> >
> Use a sane OS.  :-).  Failing that, maybe - win 3.11 had a mouse.ini
> file.  Maybe it could tell it to use the PS/2 mouse and not molest the
> serial one?  Or instead of clipping DTR, clip mouse.drv.  That might
> leave you with no mouse.  It is _possible_ to work windose without a
> mouse, I think, but it is a long time I have not tormented myself with
> windose.  Maybe rename it first to try it out.  There might even be a
> separate driver for each mouse type, but I wouldn't know.
> 
> I would expect that opening the serial port with OpenComm or CreateFile,
> depending on which windose, should disconnect it from the pointer, but I
> take no responsibility for the programming of the Devil.
> >
> > Many Many Thanks in advance,
> > -Marwan
> >
> Lawson
> 
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