Linux-Setup Digest #84, Volume #19 Wed, 5 Jul 00 14:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: Removing Users--How? (Vilmos Soti)
Re: IPCHAINS sample script for 3 NICS (Lars Gullik Bj�nnes)
Re: Removing Users--How? (C.J.)
Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. (Thomas Nelson)
Re: RH6.2 + ethernet (C.J.)
Re: RH6.2 + Intel Ethernet (C.J.)
Re: How to reset root password (slackware) (Ned Latham)
Re: Which partition do I install linux to? (C.J.)
Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ??? ("Alex DeLarge")
Re: How to reset root password (slackware) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
upgrade of RedHat 6.1 to 6.2 - python problem
Re: dev/hdc (Rob Harvey)
Re: Mandrake 7.1 Problem (Frank Miller)
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Subject: Re: Removing Users--How?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:13:37 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lorne Beckman) writes:
> I can't figure out how to remove users from my mail server. Linux
> version 2.0.0.
Is it a kernel version? Which distribution do you use?
> "Userdel / deluser" does nothing (command not found). (I use "adduser"
> to add.)
That is userdel not Userdel. If yo ustill cannot find then try a
locate userdel | grep userdel$
and it will tell you which directory it is in.
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bj�nnes)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.security.firewalls
Subject: Re: IPCHAINS sample script for 3 NICS
Date: 05 Jul 2000 18:28:55 +0200
"Thierry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Can someone point me to an ipchains firewall script that supports for 3 NICs
| (1 for Internet, 1 for LAN and 1 for DMZ) ?
Look at the example in the IPCHAINS-HOWTO.
Lgb
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: Removing Users--How?
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:38:13 GMT
Try userdel
In article <uZH85.1123$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Lorne Beckman) wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I can't figure out how to remove users from my mail server. Linux
>version 2.0.0.
>"Userdel / deluser" does nothing (command not found). (I use "adduser"
>to add.)
>
>Looked through lots of documentation, but have come up emptyhanded.
>Obviously I pretty much have no clue what I'm doing.
>
>Can you help?
>
>Lorne
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Thomas Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.turbolinux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:43:04 -0400
Linux does have rough edges on it still and you make several valid points, but I
really don't understand why many people think computers should not need skill
and knowledge to operate. Tuning a car, sailing a ship, wiring a house, all
require skill and knowledge to perform properly. Why are computers and OSes
(Linux/Windows/BeOS/Unix, etc) in a different category? If you don't want to
know about the engine of your car, take it to a mechanic. If you just want to do
canned activties (OfficeSuite stuff), buy a pre-installed system (Windows,
Linux, whatever) so you don't have to deal with partitioning, etc. In short, if
you're going to dig under the hood, your going to scrape you knuckles now and
then, but you can make it purrr. As I understand it, the whole point of linux is
control over your environment. That requires skill and knowledge.
Thomas Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeffrey Gudmann wrote:
> Mike
>
> To use a quaint Australian expression - GUTZ EFFORT !!!
>
> Your comments and suggestions make a lotta sense IMHO.
> Particularly like the idea about the TEST MODE.
>
> I have been frigging round with linux for about 2 years now
> and can sorta "find my way round". I would hate to think what would
> happen to some poor sod who was only use to Win98 and got a copy
> of a linux distro on a computer magazine, installed it, mistakenly chose
> during the set up to format hda5 (containing all his/her important data
> or backups) cos it seemed like a good thing to do) and then opted
> to install the boot loader (lilo or worse still grub) to the MBR. Later
> after
> playing around with Linux decided to scrub the linux partition and wondered
> what had happened to the Win98 boot-up.
>
> This sort of scenario would really give Linux a BAD NAME.
>
> Call me a pedantic a*&#hole, but I like things that work, and work properly.
> I have lost count on the number of Linux distros I've tried.
> You try another coz the one you're using is missing a certain feature, then
> you find another that has it but is missing something else and the vicious
> circle
> begins - trying to find that elusive perfect Linux Distro!!
> Then you settle on a Distro that's acceptable and subsequently make the
> fatal error - upgrading or getting hold of the next version !!!! And you
> find out that things have changed in the next version (like the boot
> loader is grub and grub alone now) or the latest version has been
> rushed out and is as buggy as hell.
>
> Don't get me wrong - I luuv Linux - but, if Linux is going to succeed in
> popularity,
> then I believe that the Distro producers should get their act together and
> address
> amongst other things the points you raise in your commentary.
>
> Ah, it feels better now that I've got that off my chest.
>
> Anyway, enjoyed reading your discertation. When can we expect WarnerLinux
> !!!!
>
> Jeff
>
> PS Who is Tatanya - (in best Homer Simpson voice) hhmmmmmmmmmm Tatanya
> Oops, sorry - hope she's not your wife/partner - with a comment like
> that !!!
>
> Mike Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > TurboShitzu is a mess. Have any of you installed a minumum software set
> > and then gone in and tried to do the REAL install using turbopkg? Have
> > you noticed that
> >
> > 1. There is no way to select EVERYTHING? That you have to go down the
> > entire f--king list, checking the packages one at a time? Have you
> > noticed that turbopkg erupts with a segmentation violation wile trying
> > to install one of the network packages? EVERY TIME IN THE SAME PLACE?
> >
> > At least Mandrake has an EVERYTHING option on *its* package installer.
> > Guess I'm not the only one that things its a NO-BRAINER.
> >
> > 2. Have you noticed that if you select writing the boot loader to the
> > root partition that you have NO SUBSEQUENT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A BOOT
> > FLOPPY? Boy, what a bunch of friggin geniuses.
> >
> > About the only good thing I can say about TurboShitzu is that it doesn't
> > hose down any other partitions. Try the "rain" release of Storm--the one
> > given away in the June issue of Linux Magazine ("Storm" is Sudanese for
> > "shitzu"--honest). Yea, notice how the place you end up writing the boot
> > loader is buried in a menu option rather than being out front where it
> > should be. Notice how, even if you write the boot loader to the root
> > partition, it hoses the MBR on C: anyway. Thank god that, compared with
> > *these* wankers, I *AM* a bloody genius, so I was able to get the MBR
> > back without reinstalling NT. Thank god for *them* that is, because I'm
> > quite capable of making a special trip right to their office door where
> > I would show them that it is in the long-term interest of their personal
> > physical well being that they pull their little pin heads out of their
> > pukey little asses. Now where was I?
> >
> > Now I will give you the short course on how a CORRECT installation
> > architecture should proceed.
> >
> > To begin with,
> >
> > - the initial installation is NOT the place to be installing monster
> > software packages. How many of you have loaded down the platter with a
> > gig of software only to find out that you can't boot? The *initial*
> > installation should be concerned with ONE THING ONLY: creating
> > partitions, setting up recovery mechanisms, and installing a bare-bones
> > bootable system. THEN, when you find that everything is copasetic, and
> > you've actually logged-in and are grinning from pie-hole to ass-hole,
> > NOW start installing the platter-busting mega-system. Fawk. Do I have to
> > do everything myself? Apparently.
> >
> > - Furthermore, the installation should have a TEST MODE that allows you
> > to simply create partitions and do a pseudo-boot into the root where you
> > would sit and be able to do nothing but reboot. After finding that, yes,
> > Margaret, I can create partitions and boot into them using whatever boot
> > system I HAVE ALREADY SELECTED, then and only then would the
> > installation continue. In essence, the Installation would not be
> > SEQUENTIAL; it would be DIRECT-ACCESS and have enough intelligence to
> > know what has to be done before what.
> >
> > - The installation should be able to restore the system to the state it
> > was in just before the moment of installation. GUARANTEED. Installing a
> > linux system should be COMPLETELY WITHOUT RISK. Period f--king end.
> >
> > -- If you can't give a WRITTEN GUARANTEE that your distro will NOT
> > NEGATIVELY IMPACT the current state of your box, then get out of the
> > game. You got no business in it. You're a piss-ant. You can't run with
> > the Big Dogs. You're a Tech Shitzu. Get off my leg.
> >
> > Mike
> > --
> > http://www.bigfoot.com/~warnerm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: RH6.2 + ethernet
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:42:15 GMT
In article <8jv8p9$3bu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I installed RedHat 6.2 using Server configuration. It booted up fine, detected
>the ethernet card, assigned a fixed IP.
>
>However, when I ping other machines on the network, it takes a long time
>(>30sec). What did I do wrong? How should I fix it?
Check that you have the DNS server's IP address specified.
Also, check /etc/hosts and make sure you have entries for your local address.
You can confirm that this is the problem before making these changes by using
the -n option with ping.
ie: ping -n 192.168.1.12
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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.networking
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: RH6.2 + Intel Ethernet
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:43:43 GMT
Also you can try the -n option with ping to confirm that the problem is with
DNS.
ping -n someipaddress
In article <8jvg4q$9bb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gernot
Fink) wrote:
>In article <8jv8kb$3ao$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> Dear,
>>
>> I installed RedHat 6.2 using Server configuration. It booted up fine,
> detected
>> the ethernet card, assigned a fixed IP.
>>
>> However, when I ping other machines on the network, it takes a long time
>> (>30sec). What did I do wrong? How should I fix it?
>
>It could be a nameresolving problem.
>
>Check your /etc/resolv.conf if there is a nameserver wich is not aviable at
>the moment.
>
>The 30 sec are the timeout.
>
>
>>
>> Please help!
>>
>>
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Before you buy.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ned Latham)
Subject: Re: How to reset root password (slackware)
Date: 5 Jul 2000 16:49:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <8jvf8a$87o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I figured out how to attempt to reset my root password from other
> messages in this forum, but to no avail. I'm joing to reinstall slack
> and and choose to NOT change my root password during install, and see
> what happens. The unfortunate part is that the machine I'm installing
> it on has no CDROM drive, and the install won't recognize the network
> card.
>
> Can you say "24 floppy disks"? I knew you could.
Er... If you can't find a bootimage kernel that works with your network
card, can you borrow a CD ROM drive from another machine?
--
Ned ++++++ Democracy means "the people rule".
To reply, cut out my nose and make the met a net.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: Which partition do I install linux to?
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:01:51 GMT
DON'T make three primary partitions if you are going to use Win9x. (The
extended partition is still a primary partition.) Windows, like DOS,
really expects a primary partition and an extended partition. It can (but
doesn't always) choke on the extra primary partition and cause all sorts of
problems. Having your boot partition on a logical partition is fine.
Other than making your /boot partition, I'd pretty much go with exactly the
layout that Xiang suggested.
As far as the 1024th cluster issue goes, as long as your /boot partition lies
below this cluster, the rest of your partitions can go where you like. Linux
itself has no problem with large hard drives. Just booting from LILO is an
issue.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Xiang Long Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I am a beginner too. But as I know, you should have the Linux /boot partition
>at the first 1024 clusters.(all of
>the partition) . Say, if the cluster size is 4k you should put the boot
>partition in the first 8G of your hard disk.
>Some thing like the following:
>1. primary: 2G Windows system
>2. primary: 16M Linux Ext2 /boot
>3. extended: 1. 256M Linux swap
> 2. 5G Linux Ext2 /
> 3. 12G Windows app. and data
>> Basically I want first 2gb for Win. Other than that I am going to have 5gb
>> for linux and the rest for data/apps (will be a windows partition).
>>
>> The question is this, I read somewhere that it is important that linux
>> resides in a partition below a certain cluster number of the h/drive. Hence
>> this would affect the layout of my partitions. Could someone please clarify
>> this for me.
>>
>> I tried installing linux before and ended up killing a windows partition,
>> windows couldnt cope and it trashed my h/drive. So I am being v. careful
>> this time. I am thinking of going for SUSE6.4, any comments/other ideas?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Rich.
>
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From: "Alex DeLarge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: 486 Linux setup, 250 meg HD, which distro ???
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:14:59 +0100
Choose life, choose a distro, choose GPL/LGPL, Choose Corel, Choose being
hacked every 5 minutes your on the internet. Choose Slack, Choose sleepless
nights tearing your hair out, Choose Debian, Choose never being able to use
KDE, Choose a package format that always gets treated as second best to rpm.
I chose not to choose life, I chose something else, I chose Guven Linux,
it's RPM compatible, but it fits in about 32 meg. In a few months, you can
choose Guven too, but in the meantime, you can mail me and join the beta
team.
Choose Guven.
<plug mode off>
--
Alex DeLarge - Guven Linux at 0.03rc2
#!/usr/bin/perl
#
# wishlist.pl
do {
$fuck;
sleep;
not $eat_meat;
study $others;
($be, $held,
$be, $pure)
and $love;
} until each %day_is_done;
Karl E. Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
>
> > C Sanjayan Rosenmund wrote:
> > >
> > > Nathaniel Jay Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > > Although, I'm not going to dispute you that Debian and Slack have a
lot
> > > > of merit on an older/smaller machine. I'm planning on doing a
Debian
> > > > install on one of the aforementioned machines when the next version
is
> > > > "stable" released. Hopefully soon.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Debian (Potato) is available as a downloadable iso image (used to burn
> > > CDs) for testing. Potato is *quite* stable and the CDs should work
> > > fine. Otherwise, you can download the floppies (9 of them) and do a
> > > network install. Why wait, upgrade to Debian *now*
> > >
> > > <grin>
> > > --
> > > Sanjay
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Windows has detected that a gnat has farted near your computer.
> > > Press any key to reboot.
> >
> > I tend to wait for "official" releases of Debian. It just seems easier
> > to wait for the official release than wait for a three day download. (I
> > can't wait for my DSL connection, maybe then I'll change my mind.) As
> > it is right now I can order a CD from LSL or Cheapbytes and have it
> > shipped faster than I can download the ISO of any distribution.
> >
> > Nathaniel Jay Lee
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I've got Debian Potato (using kernel 2.2.17) running on one of my ancient
> 66Mhz 486DXs. Runs without any problems whatsoerver. And it only has a
240Mb
> disk - and no cd-rom drive. I managed to get it installed over NFS -
turned
> out to be easy, once I stumbled on the right IO address for the network
card
> (no plug-and-pray here).
> In theory you should only need:
>
> * Rescue Floppy
> * Root image floppy
> * 2 x driver floppy disk
> * Network card (that you know the make/model/IO & IRQ of)
> * NFS access to the cd (or 'bout 12 floppies) to get the base
> * Internet access to retrieve any other packages you might want, e.g.
X,
> Perl, you-name-it.
>
> For whatever it's worth
>
> Karl E. Jorgensen
> k a r l @ j o r g e n s e n . c o m
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to reset root password (slackware)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:19:50 GMT
Thanks for the suggestion. I had tried this last night, but no luck.
I still got the login prompt, which would still not prompt for a
password.
The best I got was doing:
Linux init=/bin/sh
which got me to a bourne shell prompt without needing a login.
However, for some strange reason, my system didn't
have /usr/bin/passwd, so I threw up my hands in frustration and am
reinstalling (my install reported a seemingly innocuous error on disk
12, so there is a very small chance that this small error is screwing
things up).
Thank you very much for the suggestion, however.
Tim
In article <3962aaa4$0$8309$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.) wrote:
> Try this... and I'd love to hear if it works:
>
> At lilo prompt, add "single" after your choice to boot linux. ie: if
you type
> linux, you would use:
>
> linux single
>
> Change root's password.
> passwd root
>
> reboot
>
> done
>
> In article <8ju5kq$b9c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Hey everyone,
> >
> >I just installed Slackware 7.1, and during the configuration it asked
> >me if I wanted to set a password on root. I said yes, but the
> >installer failed to find /usr/bin/passwd. Now when I try to log in
as
> >root, it doesn't give a password: prompt and just re-displays the
> >login: prompt a few seconds after I type "root" to log in.
> >
> >Any pointers on how I can reset the root password? I can boot using
my
> >boot/root disks, but am unsure if I can mount the hard drive or set
the
> >root password on the hard drive installation.
> >
> >Thanks for any help.
> >
> >Tim
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Before you buy.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: upgrade of RedHat 6.1 to 6.2 - python problem
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:30:06 GMT
I am trying to upgrade from 6.1 to 6.2, mainly to install GNOME.
Two bad things happen: the first seems minor and is that I get the
message that /tmp/sdb is not found in the partition table, so it can't
be configured. /tmp/sdb is the CDwriter, and I always get this sort of
message when booting the machine, so I figure it is not a big problem here.
I just click on "skip device" and proceed.
The second thing is the one that prevents the upgrade. I reach the screen
where I can choose which packages to install. I choose a full upgrade. Then
I get the message that python crashed with error 23 - a segmentation
fault. The install then asks if I want to send a bug report, but it doesn't
matter if I say yes or no, it freezes.
This closely matches a RedHat errata, which says to use new installation
diskettes. I did that, and it made no difference. Also, the RedHat errata
advises that one problem that can cause this problem is if /tmp is linked
somewhere else, such as /var/tmp. It isn't on my machine: /tmp is a
partition of 95 MB. Perhaps this is not enough?
Thanks in advance.
P.S. The machine is a dual processor PII - 400MHz with 512MB. I don't
know if the smp kernel is a problem. The upgrade proceeded far enough that
GNOME and 6.2 are running, although without most of the utilities
and applications.
--
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http://www.help.com/
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Subject: Re: dev/hdc
From: Rob Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:49:42 -0700
Check BIOS to see if the disk is the primary master or secondary
master. It should be primary for /dev/hda.
Rob Harvey
Programmer, Networker, Consultant.
Specializing in C++, Java and Linux systems.
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From: Frank Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1 Problem
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:59:36 GMT
Martin Racette wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I have a problem installing and running any Linux and the last one is
> Mandrake.
>
> The problem is after the install when I try to start it using the boot
> disk that I just created while installing I get this:
>
> LILO
> (the message that tells me to wait or press enter to boot Linux using
> /dev/sdb1)
> boot: (I press ENTER)
> 0x10
> boot: Linux (I press ENTER again)
> 0x10
> boot: Linux (so I added /dev/sdb1)
> 0x10
>
> At that point I use the CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot my computer to OS/2
>
> the setup is :
>
> ALL HDD are SCSI
>
> Disk 1:
> Bootmanager
> C: OS/2 Warp 4
> Windows 98SE
> Extended partition
> D: , E:, F:, G: (HPFS)
>
> Disk 2:
> Linux (mount point /)
> Linux swap
> Extended Partition
> H: (HPFS)
> I: (FAT-16)
> J: ,K: (HPFS)
>
> Disk 3:
> Not seen by Linux during installation is a ZIP100 SCSI
>
> I would like to know how I can install and use Linux with that setup
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Merci a l'avance
>
> Martin
Use OS/2 Boot Manager for booting. Install lilo to the boot partion of
Linux. Create the boot disk at Linux install time and if lilo doesn't
install to the boot partion you can modify linux.conf to install lilo
where you desire, run lilo to re-install lilo. Then add Linux to the
Boot Manager. I use to do it this way but have gone to Boot Magic from
PowerQuest.
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