Linux-Setup Digest #89, Volume #19                Wed, 5 Jul 00 22:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Mandrake 7.0 & Kernels (Jesus Mireles)
  Re: Bootstar partition tool - any experience with it (Tim Mullen)
  Mouse control under Xfree 4.0 vs 3.3.5 (Jason Bond)
  Toshiba Satellite 110CS ("Joe")
  Toshiba 110CS - Additional information ("Joe")
  accidentally deleted (Hima Parimisetty)
  Modem trouble (Kelli Halliburton)
  Re: read-only filesystem (ljb)
  Re: Xterm Backspace not working (Jeff Makey)
  Re: HP 8100i CDRW not working.... (Steve Martin)
  Eth0 delaying intializtion (Todd Johnston)
  Re: Eth0 delaying intializtion (C.J.)
  Re: Is Samba installed with Redhat 6.2 (bullwinkle)
  Re: HELP: kernel building / modular kernels (James Lothian)
  Re: Intall RedHat 62 No PCI cards! (E J)
  Read/Write Access to FAT32 Partitions ("Luke Stodola")
  Re: Removing Users--How? (E J)
  Re: upgrade of Redhat 6.0 to 6.2 (E J)

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From: Jesus Mireles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake 7.0 & Kernels
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:46:02 -0600

I have an intel810 chip and I know i have to upgrade the kernel but does
anyone have any tips on how to do this I'm a bit confused on how to do it,
it took me about 3 months to install the damm thing and I dont want to
mess it up..just trying to be cautious so if anyone out there knows what
I'm taking about I would appreciate some help!!!




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From: Tim Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bootstar partition tool - any experience with it
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:30:04 GMT


dbp wrote:
> 
> Rodger Ryan wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have noted on the Internet a product called BootStar that allows upto
> > 15 partitions (per disk ??) etc.  Has anyone any experience with say a
> > DOS / Win 95/98 / Win NT / Linux / etc set up with this product ?.
> >
> 
> I am using Bootstar to boot for four OS, it can create up to 15 
partitions.
> 
> It has no problem with DOS/Win95/Win98/Linux, I do not have Win NT.
> 
> The point to note is once installed it, never use FDISK, CFDISK,
> PQMAGIC or something like that. And making a bootstar rescue disk
> is a must to retain the partition information after install new OS (as 
new
> OS may wape out the master boot record).
> 
> In the part of Linux, remember to install lilo in the partition, but not
> the
> master boot record, then everything will be fine.
> 
> --
> Please reply me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], thank you!
> 
> 


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From: Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mouse control under Xfree 4.0 vs 3.3.5
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:17:58 -0700

I was wondering if mouse control has changed from 3.3.5 to 4.0.
Basically, I really don't like the way 3.3.5 allowed for mouse
momement control.  The threshold and acceleration options
make mouse control "jumpy", not smooth as is under windows.  Believe
it or not, this very simple thing is one of the significant barriers
that keeps me booting to windows frequently (which has a MUCH better 
and smoother method of controlling the mouse).  I've tried virtually all
combinations of threshold and acceleration and have found none
acceptable (or comparable to windows mouse control).  Please tell me it
has been improved for 4.0, please!

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From: "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Toshiba Satellite 110CS
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:00:34 +1000

I wish to install Redhat 6.2 on a Toshiba Satellite 110CS, with no CD
support. I have an IBM Aptiva. Can I create a Redhat boot disk which will
contect to my cdrom on the Aptiva via parallel connection?

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Joe.




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From: "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Toshiba 110CS - Additional information
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:11:40 +1000

Further to the post below, I am running Win98 on the Aptiva.

Thanks and regards,

Joe.

Original post:
I wish to install Redhat 6.2 on a Toshiba Satellite 110CS, with no CD
support. I have an IBM Aptiva. Can I create a Redhat boot disk which will
contect to my cdrom on the Aptiva via parallel connection?

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Joe.




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From: Hima Parimisetty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: accidentally deleted
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 00:30:04 GMT

Hi all,
  I have accidentally deleted "/init" and "/lib" directories.Is there any 
way i can restore them and get the computer to boot.I don't want to 
re-install linux(unless it's the last option).please help me.

cheers
Hima Parimisetty

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Subject: Modem trouble
From: Kelli Halliburton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 17:47:00 -0700

System: Gateway 2000 P5-120 (Pentium 120MHz)
RAM: 32MB
HD: 696MB
CD-ROM: 8x, bootable
Distro: Storm Linux, Rain Release (modified Debian) from cover
of this month's Linux magazine
Ports: Video, Serial (2: 1 9-pin marked "A", 1 25-pin
marked "B"), Parallel, PS/2 Keyboard, PS/2 Mouse
Peripherals: VGA monochrome monitor, 101-key keyboard, serial
mouse hooked to serial port A, USRobotics external 28.8 modem
hooked to serial port B

Problem: Modem does not respond correctly to queries at any
speed or init delay settings through Kppp.

Steps taken already: Made sure that device is set to /dev/ttyS1
and have tried all various handshake methods. Have tried all
available serial speeds. Have tried many many different pre-init
and post-init delay settings. Have changed Kppp permissions as
directed in the online documentation.

Steps to be taken in near future: replace serial mouse with PS/2
mouse, hook modem to serial port A, and reinstall Linux. If that
doesn't work, I'll have to come back to this newsgroup and see
if anyone can help me. Now, if I could just find that 9-to-25-
pin serial cable...

Steps to be taken in far future: installation of 14.4 internal
ISA modem as /dev/ttyS2 (only if no one can find any other way
to help me).

Anyway, Voyager's about to come on, and I need to head home.
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ljb)
Subject: Re: read-only filesystem
Date: 6 Jul 2000 00:50:09 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Colin Watson wrote:
>> 
>> Dennis Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >I'm trying to setup a slackware 7.0 system with the root filesystem
>> >mounted as read-only. I have /var and /tmp mounted on ramdisk. I've
>> >modified /etc/fstab with the 'ro' option on the root filesystem. But the
>> >system always boots up 'rw'. Does anybody know what's wrong?
>> 
>> Could you show us the exact line from /etc/fstab, please, just in case
>> something's slightly wrong there?
>
>The exact entry reads:
>/dev/hda3      /       ext2    defaults,ro     0       0

Because Slackware's /etc/rc.d/rc.S does a remount of root with write
enabled, after checking it, regardless of what you put in fstab:
   # Remount the root filesystem in read-write mode
   echo "Remounting root device with read-write enabled."
   /sbin/mount -w -v -n -o remount /
You may be able to change this, but I believe you are headed into
uncharted territory with a read-only root...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Makey)
Subject: Re: Xterm Backspace not working
Date: 6 Jul 2000 00:51:44 GMT

In article <8jknm0$gsb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas Dickey  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>the underlying problem is that we've accumulated three things that are
>being equated as "Delete":
>       ASCII backspace (code 8)
>       ASCII delete (code 127)
>       VT220 "remove" aka "delete" (ESC [ 3 ~)

That's a good analysis of the fundamental problem.  Despite my
efforts (with xmodmap and stty settings) to establish ASCII 127 as
the one true erase character in my personal environment, it seems
that most X clients (Netscape, for example) insist on interpreting
ASCII 127 as the delete forward character and ASCII 8 as the erase
character.  It's annoying.

                             :: Jeff Makey
                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Department of Tautological Pleonasms and Superfluous Redundancies Department

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: HP 8100i CDRW not working....
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 21:00:47 -0400

Duane wrote:

> Which is something I have wondered about. Is there any advantage to
> using the ide-cd driver?

Perhaps a theoretical small advantage in that you don't have to go
through the emulation layer in order to get data into the system.
However, with all real-world CD drives, the bottleneck in accessing
data is the data of the drive itself, not the speed of the driver.
I have run CD drives both ways and could tell no difference.

> Is there any such thing as an
> old CD drive that is not ATAPI?

There used to be; I doubt you could find them anymore. Look in the
kernel configuration under "non-IDE, non-SCSI CD-ROM drives". There
are roughly a dozen different drives and/or interface cards that
are supported.

> I think it would sure make life a lot
> easier for the average Linux user if distributions just used ide-scsi,
> and left ide-cd to people that wanted to configure it themselves.

It would surely make life easier for us who have IDE CD burners, but it
might be a bit of a pain for those with SCSI drives. I've no experience
using a computer with IDE and SCSI drives, and I don't know how well
a "real" SCSI driver would coexist with SCSI emulation.

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From: Todd Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Eth0 delaying intializtion
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 01:13:12 GMT

I just installed a RH 6.2 gnome workstation and I can not get my NIC to
work.  I have a 3com 900b and have it set to eth0 and 3c59x.  It locates
the card and places it at the same IRQ as Win98, but ifconfig shows no
eth0.  If I try ifup eth0, I get delaying initialization of Eth0.  I
went as far as pulling the card and rebooting.  At detecting new
hardware, it stated that I had remove the card and listed it properly.
I told it to remove all configs for the card.  I then reinstalled the
card and rebooted.  Again at detecting new hardware, it found the card
and installed the 3c95x driver and set the irq.  I tried netconfig, but
if I use DHCP or whatever, it can't connect.  If I manually set it up
with the info from winipconfig, I still get nowhere.  In X, I can remove
the settings and enable DHCP and it takes, but still no luck.  If I try
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart , I get eth0 failed.  Card and
connection work fine in win98.  Any ideas?

Also, I ran sndconfig and it found my card by the chip set and stated
that Aureal Vortex 2 was no supported.  How do I set up a turtle beach
montegoe II?

Thanks in advance,

Todd



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: Eth0 delaying intializtion
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 00:15:45 GMT

As far as the the network card goes, try leaving the IRQ setting blank in 
linuxconf and/or the io setting blank.  If you want to see what the actual 
error message is preventing the startup, manually start the networking with

/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start

at the command prompt when logged in as root.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>I just installed a RH 6.2 gnome workstation and I can not get my NIC to
>work.  I have a 3com 900b and have it set to eth0 and 3c59x.  It locates
>the card and places it at the same IRQ as Win98, but ifconfig shows no
>eth0.  If I try ifup eth0, I get delaying initialization of Eth0.  I
>went as far as pulling the card and rebooting.  At detecting new
>hardware, it stated that I had remove the card and listed it properly.
>I told it to remove all configs for the card.  I then reinstalled the
>card and rebooted.  Again at detecting new hardware, it found the card
>and installed the 3c95x driver and set the irq.  I tried netconfig, but
>if I use DHCP or whatever, it can't connect.  If I manually set it up
>with the info from winipconfig, I still get nowhere.  In X, I can remove
>the settings and enable DHCP and it takes, but still no luck.  If I try
>/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart , I get eth0 failed.  Card and
>connection work fine in win98.  Any ideas?
>
>Also, I ran sndconfig and it found my card by the chip set and stated
>that Aureal Vortex 2 was no supported.  How do I set up a turtle beach
>montegoe II?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Todd
>
>

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From: bullwinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Samba installed with Redhat 6.2
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 01:30:04 GMT


danc wrote:
> 
> 
> From: danc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Ronald Cole wrote:
> 
> > Patricia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >When installing Gnome or KDE desktop in Redhat 6.2 does it also
>  install
> > > >Samba?
> > > >How do i check to see if Samba is installed?
> > >
> > > in a terminal type whereis samba
> > > this should give something like
> > > [pat@localhost pat]$ whereis samba
> > > samba: /usr/sbin/samba /usr/man/man7/samba.7
> >
> > Better is "rpm -qa | grep samba".  Best is to just get the
> > samba-2.0.7-4 rpms off of updates.redhat.com and install those for
> > the security fixes.
> >
> > --
> > Forte International, P.O. Box 1412, Ridgecrest, CA  93556-1412
> > Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      Phone: (760) 499-9142
> > President, CEO                             Fax: (760) 499-9152
> > My GPG fingerprint: C3AF 4BE9 BEA6 F1C2 B084  4A88 8851 E6C8 69E3
>  B00B
> 
> OK, it's installed, but how to get it to work? I've tried everything.
>  I'm at
> work on an NT4 ethernet. I have a second desktop machine running
>  Readhat 6.2
> as a proof of concept to start replacing
> windows with Linux. I need to get SAMBA working. I tried  commands
>  like
> these, as well as all the permutations, (10.2.1.135 is my NT4 machine
>  on our
> DHCP ethernet, shared is the name of the share I
> created on it to share to Linux,   /root/dchaplin is the directory I
>  created
> in Linux to map the NT share to):
> 
> 
> smbmount -I //10.2.1.135/shared/  /root/dchaplin
> 
> 
> smbclient  //10.2.1.135/shared/ -U danc -I 10.2.1.135 -N
> 
> 
> can anyone steer me to a simple fool-proof guide to set up SAMBA so I
>  can
> access my NT4 workstation through the ethernet with my REDHAT BOX ON
>  THE SAME
> ETHERNET?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
    Check the SMB HOWTO AT THE Linux Documentation Project.  RedHat has a
mirror site @ http://www.redhat.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO

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From: James Lothian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP: kernel building / modular kernels
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:38:41 +0100

I tried doing this a couple of times, without any luck. However,
following
a suggestion in an archive of the Linux Kernel mailing list, I tried
doing
a make mrproper, then building again. So the exact sequence is:
make mrproper
make xconfig
make dep
make bzImage
copy bzImage to /boot
mv /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0 /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0.old
make modules
make modules_install
setup lilo.conf
reboot. 

After this, most of the problems go away. However, attempting to load
the emu10k1 sound module still produces the following result:

/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol
remap_page_range
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol __wake_up
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol kmalloc
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol
interruptible_sleep_on/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved
symbol __pollwait
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol kfree
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol mem_map
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol printk
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o: insmod
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o failed
/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/misc/emu10k1.o: insmod emu10k1 failed 

So, in the case of the emu10k1 module, I'm still pretty stuck. Any
ideas?

James

Guy Maskall wrote:
> 
> James,
> 
> sounds like you're getting left over modules hanging around.
> 
> You're obviously doing all this as root from /usr/src/linux. You should
> see a subdirectory 'modules', cp this to (e.g.) 'modules.safe'. Also cp
> '/lib/modules/<ver>' to '/lib/modules/<ver.safe>' (or some such similar
> idea). Then run make xconfig (this will create a new, empty, modules
> subdirectory), then make dep, make clean, make bzImage, make modules, make
> modules_install. It could be that make clean clears the modules
> directories but I always make sure.
> 
> If you don't actually change the config in make xconfig and just save and
> exit, then you shouldn't need to redo make bzImage. But if things have
> been hanging around previously it might be as well to go through all the
> steps so you *know* that the kernel has been compiled with all the correct
> dependencies etc.
> 
> Sounds like you know about making sure lilo.conf is correct and then
> running /sbin/lilo and you should be away.
> 
> Guy
> 
> James Lothian wrote:
> 
> > Hello. I'm having a truly wretched time trying to build a kernel.
> > Details: stock RH6.2, running kernel 2.2.14-5.0smp kernel, on a dual-
> > processor machine, attempting to build a new kernel with the I2C patch
> > applied (the aim of all this is
> > to get the latest version of the BTTV driver working). I configure
> > with make xconfig, make dep, make bzImage, copy aside the current
> > modules directory (/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0smp), then do make modules
> > and make modules_install, then copy bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz-james,
> > add it to lilo.conf, run lilo.
> >
> > The result boots. However, any attempt to load one of the shiny newly
> > compiled modules produces a flurry of undefined symbol errors (for
> > things like kfree).
> >
> > modprobe -V says 2.3.10-pre1. Is this version buggy?
> >
> > Does anybody have any idea what's going on here? As far as I can tell,
> > I'm doing exactly what the fabulous documentation says I should, and it
> > just isn't working at all. I'd be very grateful for any suggestions.
> >
> > James

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intall RedHat 62 No PCI cards!
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 18:42:04 -0700

$su -
password: <secret>
## fix your sound card
# sndconfig
## fix your video
# Xconfigurator
## fix your ethernet card, pick kernel icon and load in your ethernet module,
click on your network and activate the network card.
# control-panel

AIESEC Queen's wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a crazy problem trying to install Linux to my new system, none of the
> PCI cards work.
>
> ASUS P3V4X motherboard
> Intel Celeron 466
> 96 MB RAM
> Voodo Banshee VGA adaptor
> SoundBlaster PCI 128
> RealTek Ethernet card  (ne2k-pci module)
> 6.4 Gig Quantum HDD
>
> This system had previously been running RedHat 6.2 happily, then I upgraded
> the motherboard and decided to reinstal the system. Windows works correctly,
> and RedHat installed properly, detecting all my cards and installing all the
> modules, but none of them will initialize. I have no sound and no ethernet,
> minimal graphics capability.
>
> lsmod reveal the correct modules installed but unused.
>
> I blame the VIA chipset on the motherboard, any other ideas.
>
> please email me if you can help
> Matt
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Luke Stodola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Read/Write Access to FAT32 Partitions
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 21:41:39 -0400

I dual-boot btw. win98 and rh 6.2

I have user data files in C:\Data\username on a windows FAT32 partition.

How can I give read/write access to those files even when not "root"?

- luke



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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing Users--How?
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 18:54:18 -0700

su -
# password: <secret>

# cp /etc/password /etc/password.orig
# vi /etc/password

Delete the user line you want to get rid of

# cp /etc/group /etc/group.orig
# vi /etc/group

Is the user in a group by himself? If so get rid of the user group?

# cp /etc/shadow /etc/shadow.orig
# vi /etc/shadow

Does the user has an entry in the shadow password? If so get rid of the
user line.

# cd /home
# rm -r user_id_to_get_of

Got to be sure you want to get rid of your userid files from his home
directory.

Lorne Beckman wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I can't figure out how to remove users from my mail server. Linux
> version 2.0.0.
> "Userdel / deluser" does nothing (command not found). (I use "adduser"
> to add.)
>
> Looked through lots of documentation, but have come up emptyhanded.
> Obviously I pretty much have no clue what I'm doing.
>
> Can you help?
>
> Lorne
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: upgrade of Redhat 6.0 to 6.2
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:07:12 -0700

Backup, backup, backup.
RH 6.0 -> RH 6.1:  Sound card used to work.  It did not work properly for
2 months :(.  I had to recompile sound modules but found it was easier to
change sound module entries to make the sound card work again.
RH 6.1 -> RH 6.2:  Change sound module entries to make my sound card work
again.  Had Xauthority problem, very minor.

Andrey Shipsha wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Could anyone share their experience on upgrading the Redhat, please?
>
> I want to upgrade my RH6.0 to 6.2 version. Do I have to make a back-up
> copy of the /etc directory? What's else should I do?
>
> Any help or a link with relevant information is very appreciated!
>
> Thank you,
>
> Andrey.


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