Linux-Setup Digest #88, Volume #19 Wed, 5 Jul 00 19:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: How to install with no CD-ROM (C.J.)
Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition ("Adam Lang")
Re: HP 8100i CDRW not working (UPDATE) (Duane)
Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition (mike burrell)
Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition (C.J.)
Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition (C.J.)
Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition (DeAnn Iwan)
Re: NOTHING COMPILES (Bone Head)
Re: IPCHAINS sample script for 3 NICS (Thiebaut)
Re: Remote X login to linux server ??? (Richard Banks)
Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. (Alex)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: How to install with no CD-ROM
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 21:15:21 GMT
The system which has the CD drive does not have Apache installed? Does it
have anonymous FTP installed? You'll need some kind of FTP or web server on
the system which does have the CD-ROM if you want to do the network install.
If you DID have one of these installed, you would do one of the following on
the system which has Linux already and a CD-ROM drive (IMHO):
cd /home/ftp/pub
mkdir rhatcd
mount /dev/cdrom rhatcd
or
cd /home/httpd/html
mkdir rhatcd
mount /dev/cdrom rhatcd
One last option would be to use NFS if you had it set up on your system (the
one with the CD-ROM) and access the files via NFS, but I really don't know
much about NFS and how it is configured.
The netboot.img should be on the RedHat CD. You can use dd to make the
netboot diskette since you have Linux running on your other system.
(dd if=netboot.img of=/dev/fd0)
In article <i3O85.2525$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Scott Watson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Some stats I forgot. Distribution is RH 6.2
>
>How do I mount the cd drive of my linux machine with the box I am doing a
>fresh install on. I don't have samba or apache installed.
>
>thanks.
>
>
>"Peter Seabrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Easiest is to do a network install...
>>
>> Rawrite the network boot disks..
>> copy contents of the cd to your drive temporarily (or just mount the cd,
>but
>> that'll be slower)
>> connect your machine to his.
>> boot his machine from the network boot disks, then ftp install from your
>> machine... that's it!
>>
>> "Stanislaw Flatto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> > Scott Watson wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Okay, now I have done it. I told my girlfriend's father that he
>should
>> > > install linux as his mailserver as it would run on a 486. Me and my
>big
>> > > mouth! He gave me the PC and it doesn't even have a CD 486 33. (I
>have
>> a
>> > > used 5 1/4 if anyone is interested) anyway, this is what I was
>thinking
>> for
>> > > a workaround.
>> > >
>> > > Use my pc and rawwrite the rootdisk and bootdisk image onto a floppy
>> drive.
>> > > From there I should at least be able to boot his old klunker. Now my
>> > > problem is how do I access the cd rom on my other pc using my internal
>> > > network. My question is how do I access my cdrom on either my linux
>box
>> or
>> > > win 98 from his freshly booted pc.
>> > >
>> > > Clear as mud!
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Scott
>>
>>
>>
>
>
------------------------------
From: "Adam Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 22:18:44 GMT
first you need to find out the location of your win98 drive (ie /dev/hda1).
then you would use mount
example mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /win98
where /win98 is a directory you created
Sorry, I'm busy and this is it in a nutshell.
If you need more info, look up mount in the man pages or on the internet
www.google.com/linux is a good search engine to use for linux.
--
Adam Lang
Systems Engineer
Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
"Computadora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm brand new to linux, so I apologize for myself in advance. I just
> installed Red Hat 6.2 onto my system. I have a 20 gig drive, 10 gigs
> devoted to windows 98 and 10 gigs devoted to linux. The installation
> went ok, but I cannot figure out how to read files that are in my
> windows partition in linux. My ISP uses a PPPoE client for the DSL
> connections. The linux PPPoE client software is too big for a floppy,
> so I need to download it from Windows 98 and bring it into linux.
> Again, I am very new, so I really need step-by-step instructions on
> how to do this... i'm using the GNOME XWindows system. If someone can
> point me to anything on the web that's for total beginners it would be
> much appreciated.
------------------------------
From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: HP 8100i CDRW not working (UPDATE)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 14:20:08 -0700
NYCeyes wrote:
>
> Hello All:
>
> Thank you collectively for your replies!!!
> At the end of this letter is what my configuration
> looks like right now. Have a look please and see if
> anything pops out at you. If you need more information
> let me know. Sorry for the verbose email and posting,
> but I can only help my cause by giving as much info
> as I can.
>
> ...
>
> Now for my configuration. Have a look.
>
> #################################################################
> root@linuxpc# cat /etc/lilo.conf
> boot=/dev/hda1
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> default=linux
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
> label=linux
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
> read-only
> root=/dev/hdc1
> append="hdb=ide-scsi"
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20.FCS
> label=FCS_linux
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
> read-only
> root=/dev/hdc1
> append="hdb=ide-scsi"
> ##################################################################
>
> ##############################################################################
> root@linuxpc# dmesg
> ...
> hda: WDC AC33100H, ATA DISK drive
> hdb: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 8100, ATAPI CDROM drive
> hdc: ST34342A, ATA DISK drive
> hdd: CDA66801I, ATAPI CDROM drive
> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> hda: WDC AC33100H, 3020MB w/128kB Cache, CHS=767/128/63
> hdc: ST34342A, 4103MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=8894/15/63
> hdb: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 1024kB Cache
Most of it is working. The missing hdb in the second disk listing means
that it correctly saw the append="hdb=ide-scsi" line. But first I would
suggest putting the disk drives on one IDE interface, and the CDROMs on
the other. Otherwise, I think you might be hurting disk performance. The
second thing is that many people report problems if they try to mix
straight IDE with SCSI emulation on one IDE interface (but your mileage
may vary), so once you put both CDROMs on the same interface, you might
want to put append lines for both drives into /etc/lilo.conf (therefore
using scsi emulation for both drives).
> ...
> scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
> scsi : 1 host.
> ########################################################################
These two lines indicate that that the ide-scsi driver was loaded and
saw your CDROM. You might try this:
# cd /dev
# mknod sgi c 21 8
And now see if cdrecord -scanbus shows anything.
--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
------------------------------
From: mike burrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 22:28:20 GMT
In comp.os.linux.help Computadora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm brand new to linux, so I apologize for myself in advance. I just
> installed Red Hat 6.2 onto my system. I have a 20 gig drive, 10 gigs
> devoted to windows 98 and 10 gigs devoted to linux. The installation
> went ok, but I cannot figure out how to read files that are in my
> windows partition in linux. My ISP uses a PPPoE client for the DSL
> connections. The linux PPPoE client software is too big for a floppy,
> so I need to download it from Windows 98 and bring it into linux.
> Again, I am very new, so I really need step-by-step instructions on
> how to do this... i'm using the GNOME XWindows system. If someone can
> point me to anything on the web that's for total beginners it would be
> much appreciated.
okay before i start, i'm going to be making some assumptions because you
didn't provide enough information. if one of the assumptions is wrong,
you'll have to do some substitutions when you type:
- you are using IDE drives
- your windows partition is the first partition, and thus is called
/dev/hda1
- your linux partition is the second partition, and thus is called /dev/hda2
- your linux PPPoE client is saved in c:\temp\PPPoE\PPPoE.zip
open up an xterm or a command prompt of some kind, then type in the
following at the propmt (the '$' and '#' signify the prompt; don't type them
in).
$ su -
Password: # <-- type in your root password
# mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt # <-- if you get an error message here,
# something is wrong and you should post and
# ask how to fix it
# cp /mnt/temp/PPPoE/PPPoE.zip /tmp # /mnt/temp/PPPoE == c:\temp\PPPoE
from there i don't know what you should do, since i don't know what software
you're using, and i don't have any experience with PPPoE anyway (BTW you do
know that linux supports PPPoE in the kernel, right?). hopefully you know
what to do :).
once your done copying files around, just:
# cd /
# umount /mnt
# exit
$ exit
ya. hopefully that helps.
--
/"\ m i k e b u r r e l l
\ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X AGAINST HTML MAIL,
/ \ AND NEWS TOO, dammit
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 21:31:16 GMT
First check the /mnt directory and see if one of the directories there
contains the files you'd expect to find on your FAT partition. It's easy to
set up the partition to be mounted without realizing what you've done the
first time you are installing/working with Linux.
If they are not, read on...
Assuming your FAT partition is on the first hard drive partition, do this...
(if it is on another partition, change the 1 in /dev/hda1 to the correct
number. Use: fdisk -l /dev/hda to get a list of partitions. That is a
lower case L, not an I (eye) or a 1 (one).)
open a Gnome terminal window (Get to a command prompt)
cd /mnt
mkdir fat-c (or any other directory name you like)
mount /dev/hda1 -t vfat /mnt/fat-c
All your Win9x files should show up under that directory now (or in subdirs of
it.) As it is, only root should be able to modify files on that partition.
If you want access to them by regular users (or specific ones) that calls for
more/other options on the command line. See (man mount) for details.
HTH
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Computadora) wrote:
>I'm brand new to linux, so I apologize for myself in advance. I just
>installed Red Hat 6.2 onto my system. I have a 20 gig drive, 10 gigs
>devoted to windows 98 and 10 gigs devoted to linux. The installation
>went ok, but I cannot figure out how to read files that are in my
>windows partition in linux. My ISP uses a PPPoE client for the DSL
>connections. The linux PPPoE client software is too big for a floppy,
>so I need to download it from Windows 98 and bring it into linux.
>Again, I am very new, so I really need step-by-step instructions on
>how to do this... i'm using the GNOME XWindows system. If someone can
>point me to anything on the web that's for total beginners it would be
>much appreciated.
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 21:34:16 GMT
Forgot to reply to your request for beginner resources... one I know of is:
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Computadora) wrote:
>I'm brand new to linux, so I apologize for myself in advance. I just
>installed Red Hat 6.2 onto my system. I have a 20 gig drive, 10 gigs
>devoted to windows 98 and 10 gigs devoted to linux. The installation
>went ok, but I cannot figure out how to read files that are in my
>windows partition in linux. My ISP uses a PPPoE client for the DSL
>connections. The linux PPPoE client software is too big for a floppy,
>so I need to download it from Windows 98 and bring it into linux.
>Again, I am very new, so I really need step-by-step instructions on
>how to do this... i'm using the GNOME XWindows system. If someone can
>point me to anything on the web that's for total beginners it would be
>much appreciated.
------------------------------
From: DeAnn Iwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 18:50:08 -0400
Computadora wrote:
> I'm brand new to linux, so I apologize for myself in advance. I just
> installed Red Hat 6.2 onto my system. I have a 20 gig drive, 10 gigs
> devoted to windows 98 and 10 gigs devoted to linux. The installation
> went ok, but I cannot figure out how to read files that are in my
> windows partition in linux. My ISP uses a PPPoE client for the DSL
> connections. The linux PPPoE client software is too big for a floppy,
> so I need to download it from Windows 98 and bring it into linux.
> Again, I am very new, so I really need step-by-step instructions on
> how to do this... i'm using the GNOME XWindows system. If someone can
> point me to anything on the web that's for total beginners it would be
> much appreciated.
Just to add to the other posts: you can set up a "permanent"
capability to read your dos/win files in linux by putting the file systems
in the file system table "/etc/fstab". just follow the format provided
for your linux partitions, but add the dos ones (such as /dev/hda1 being
mounted as /c--then, to read your dos/win files on the c drive, just
change to the /c directory. I would recommend getting at least one good
book on running and maintaining linux. Said book should explain fstab in
more detail...also use the manual pages, eg "man mount").
------------------------------
From: Bone Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NOTHING COMPILES
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 08:52:18 +1000
Stephen,
Let me guess;
The processor in your machine is over-clocked?
What about using PC-66 memory when it should be PC-100 memory?
Maybe a suspect memory chip?
I could almost bet that if you tried compiling the same program a few
times, it would fail in different places.
The symptoms showing here are typical of having a piece of memory that
is bad or flaky. I found to my own horror that they are also typical of
a CPU overclocked just that little bit too much.
Running a compile job is very heavy on the CPU, so an over-clocked
machine that otherwise runs fine can start falling over when it is given
a real heavy work load.
This is my experience, anyway.
Best Regards ...
Stephen wrote:
>
> I have just setup a redhat 6.1 full install
> whats funny is that I have another machine (different hardware) with the
> exact same
> redhat 6.1 full install which everything compiles fine on.
>
> I have tried compiling four different things on my new install and all four
> fail. on the other machine all four programs compile fine. This is a FRESH
> install, nothing done inbetween the install and compiling... what is the
> world could be causing this? could the cd be currupt but still install
> without errors creating currupt gcc g++ files? I dunno... PLEASE HELP..
>
> I have inculded the readouts of three of the four compiling errors.
> I ran "./configure" before "make" when nessisary... can never make it to the
> "make install"
>
> the four programs that failed are
>
> wvdial-1.41
> freeciv-1.11.0
> ssh-1.2.27
> linux-2.4.0-test2 (didnt include since its not a stable version yet)
>
> below are the read-outs from the compiling errors
>
> ************** ssh *******************
>
> al/lib -lutil
> gcc -pipe -c -I. -I./gmp-2.0.2-ssh-2 -I./zlib-1.0.4 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
> -DHOST_KEY_FILE=\"/etc/ssh_host_key\"
> -DHOST_CONFIG_FILE=\"/etc/ssh_config\"
> -DSERVER_CONFIG_FILE=\"/etc/sshd_config\"
> -DSSH_PROGRAM=\"/usr/local/bin/ssh1\" -DETCDIR=\"/etc\"
> -DPIDDIR=\"/var/run\" -DSSH_BINDIR=\"/usr/local/bin\"
> -DTIS_MAP_FILE=\"/etc/sshd_tis.map\" -D_GNU_SOURCE -g -O2
> -I/usr/X11R6/include ssh-keygen.c
> rm -f ssh-keygen
> gcc -pipe -o ssh-keygen ssh-keygen.o log-client.o readpass.o rsa.o
> randoms.o md5.o buffer.o xmalloc.o authfile.o cipher.o des.o arcfour.o
> mpaux.o bufaux.o userfile.o signals.o blowfish.o idea.o -Lgmp-2.0.2-ssh-2
> -lgmp -lnsl -lbsd -lcrypt -L/usr/local/lib -lutil
> collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault], core dumped
> make: *** [ssh-keygen] Error 1
> [root@dimension ssh-1.2.27]#
>
> *************** wvdial **********************
>
> --> Making all in /root/wvdial-1.41/wvdial...
> g++ $_R_CXXFLAGS -c wvdialer.cc
> g++ $_R_CXXFLAGS -c wvdialtext.cc
> g++ $_R_CXXFLAGS -c wvmodemscan.cc
> g++ $_R_CXXFLAGS -c wvpapchap.cc
> g++ $_R_CXXFLAGS -c wvdialbrain.cc
> rm -f wvdial.a
> ar q wvdial.a wvdialbrain.o wvdialer.o wvdialtext.o wvmodemscan.o
> wvpapchap.o
> ranlib wvdial.a
> g++ $_R_CXXFLAGS -c wvdial.cc
> g++ -g -o wvdial wvdial.o wvdial.a ../configfile/configfile.a
> ../streams/streams.a ../utils/utils.a
> g++ $_R_CXXFLAGS -c wvdialconf.cc
> g++ -g -o wvdialconf wvdialconf.o wvdial.a ../configfile/configfile.a
> ../streams/streams.a ../utils/utils.a
> collect2: ld terminated with signal 11 [Segmentation fault], core dumped
> make[1]: *** [wvdialconf] Error 1
> make: *** [subdirs] Error 2
> [root@dimension wvdial-1.41]#
>
> ************ free civ *****************8
>
> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I./../common -I./../ai -I../intl -g
> -O2 -Wall -c stdinhand.c
> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I./../common -I./../ai -I../intl -g
> -O2 -Wall -c unitfunc.c
> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I./../common -I./../ai -I../intl -g
> -O2 -Wall -c unithand.c
> gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I./../common -I./../ai -I../intl -g
> -O2 -Wall -c unittools.c
> gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o civserver autoattack.o barbarian.o cityhand.o
> citytools.o cityturn.o civserver.o console.o diplhand.o gamehand.o
> gamelog.o gotohand.o handchat.o mapgen.o maphand.o meta.o plrhand.o
> ruleset.o rulesout.o sernet.o settlers.o spacerace.o stdinhand.o
> unitfunc.o unithand.o unittools.o ../common/libcivcommon.a
> ../ai/libcivai.a ../common/libcivcommon.a ../ai/libcivai.a
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> make[2]: *** [civserver] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/freeciv-1.11.0/server'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/freeciv-1.11.0'
> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
> [root@dimension freeciv-1.11.0]#
------------------------------
From: Thiebaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.security.firewalls
Subject: Re: IPCHAINS sample script for 3 NICS
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 00:54:44 +0200
Thierry a �crit :
> Can someone point me to an ipchains firewall script that supports for 3 NICs
> (1 for Internet, 1 for LAN and 1 for DMZ) ?
>
> Thanks,
> Thierry.
Here's my contribution :
http://persoweb.francenet.fr/~tbilger/linux/firepage.html
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Banks)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x,sg.linux
Subject: Re: Remote X login to linux server ???
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 22:49:19 GMT
D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> produced the following
pearl of wisdom:
>
>I couldn't find Xcursion. It looks like Compaq now owns it, but I
>couldn't find it on their website. Is there an evaluation version for
>it?
>
Sorry, no evaluation version. It's part of their pathworks product
(which is a whole networking suite for their PC to VMS connectiviy).
Also, it's a motif only Xserver. No extra toolkits for Gnome or KDE
etc (at least as far as I;ve managed to find).
I've found VNC to be better, however if I could find a decent free
Xserver I would use it since VNS is a little on the slow side.
- Richard
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
------------------------------
From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.turbolinux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:02:24 -0400
Jeffrey Gudmann wrote:
> Thomas
>
> My point ?
>
<snip>
>
> Well I think it this
>
> 1) Distros that are buggy or just poorly configured really annoy
> Linux familiar people.
>
I think it is really hard to find an OS that is worse than Windoz 98. I haven't
try Windoz 2000 yet; therefore, I can't say anything about it. I might try it
when I have A LOT of free time.
>
> 2) Distros that are buggy or poorly configured will cause a person
> who is wondering about Linux and gives it try a lot of grief and
> they
> will run away after a bad experience with their tails between their
> legs
> yelling " Linux - no way".
Like you said. They want something that works right out of the box. If you ask
all Windoz users to install Windoz on their computer, I wonder how many people
will still say "hey, Windoz is easy."
>
> You see, skill and knowledge on how to configure/tune Linux is a great thing
> but if you start off with a rough edged product then that's really annoying.
You can do something about rough edged Linux products when you know more about.
I doubt this is the case with Windoz.
>
> It's a bit of a Catch 22 really - the more knowledge you have about
> something then the more you become aware of its failings and inadequacies.
> Conversely, the slicker a product becomes (eg Windows)
You really think so? I have used M$ Windoz for over six years. I have done
Windoz installation so many times. I find myself having a lot of trouble
installing Windoz 98. On the other hand, I only use Linux (Red Hat) for 2 years
(Starting with Version 5.2).
Here is my comparison
Installing Windoz: 2 hours + job. Video card is not working right (ATI All in
wonder 128), SCSI scanner (UMAX) is not working right either. Right now. Windoz
hang right after boot up (sometime). Gee, it's only been about a week after the
FRESH installation. Slow... Poor performance comparing to Linux. If you really
want to know the detail spec of my machine you can find them here. I really
don't even want to bother with M$ Windoz anymore....
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~chu/hardware.html
Installing Linux: 50-60 minutes job (maybe less). USABLE OS after the fresh
installation. I did a full installation. GIMP, Netscape, and a lot of goodies.
I don't think you can telnet and ftp to your Windoz 95, 98 0r 98 SE box right
after installation without adding software (they cost you extra money too). It
provides much better security too. Oh, video card and scanner work beautifully.
Unlike some slicker product.
> then the more
> complacent you become either don't want to or can't fix problems when they
> arise. I just hope that Linux can attain that nice "middle ground"
> wherever that is, and that's the big question).
>
I don't think I am that good at Linux and I keep reading NG, doc and all that.
I also heard people saying "I don't like Linux because it's nothing like
Windoz!" For god sake, it is not suppose to be like Windoz... And thanks god it
is not. I am a very lucky person because I don't need to use Windoz at all. I
use Linux and SGI at work, Solaris at school, and Linux at home.
You might ask, "Why did you install Windoz?" My answer is, " I am a CIS major
student, I think it's still a good idea to know it although it is a very bad
product. Besides, I have four HDs... I can waste one on Windoz." But, I don't
really use it at all. I did not even bother to install MS Office.
>
> Regards
>
> Jeff
>
>
It's just my ignorant opinion.
Alex.
--
============================================
The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
http://www.seti.org/
Registered with the Linux Counter. ID# 175126
http://counter.li.org/index.html
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.setup) via:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Setup Digest
******************************
