Linux-Setup Digest #187, Volume #19              Tue, 18 Jul 00 12:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  unable to start X window (foxin)
  FS:  Win4Lin CD - Windows emulator for Linux ("Larry")
  After reboot, keyboard+mouse is dead to Linux ("Jim Davis")
  CDRECORD MESSAGE ("Gotzon Berrojalbiz")
  Re: Removing KDE Desktop Icons - Template & Autostart ("Tom Brinkman")
  Re: Settings problems (Re: My Linux Adventure) (bluejay)
  What are my options on booting a two disk PC ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Corel Linux doesn't seem to install corectly - HELP ME please  ("www.3DGAMEMAN.com")
  error message problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: 3Com Linux Driver (Shuly Wintner)
  Re: Major Bullshit while Installing Linux Redhat 2.6 (sylvain hutchison)
  NFS (sylvain hutchison)
  Re: ImageMagick, rpm and libttf.so.4 problem (Rasputin)
  Re: mount the diskette (sylvain hutchison)
  Re: can't load xwindows after edditing xf86config (/dev/niall)
  Re: x-window problem on IBM 760XL (Toby Haynes)
  XF86Setup (lang christophe)
  Re: /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer (Sean Andersson)
  Re: Defraging against LILO? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Mandrake 7.0 won't install (Ken Knecht)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (foxin)
Subject: unable to start X window
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 13:58:23 GMT

Recently i installed the Red Hat Linux 6.0 with kernel 2.2.15
i am using Nvidia TNT2 M64 video card. the XFree86 3.3.3 did not
support this chipset, so i download the latest XFree86 4.0 and install
it. but i still can't start the Gnome. 

the error as below:
===========================================================================================================
parse error: line 1 of stdin;
Errors encountered in stdin; not compiled
Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
Removing /usr/X11R6/lib/X11,fonts/Speedo/ from the valid list of font
paths
gnome-login-check: error in loading shared
libaries:/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6: undefined symbol: _fxstat
/usr/bin/gnome-session: error in loading shared library:
/usr/X11R6/lib/linICE.so.6: undefined symbol:_lxstat
===========================================================================================================

when i run XFree86 -configure
the error as below: ( XFree86.log)
=================================================================================================================================

XFree86 Version 4.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
Release Date: 8 March 2000
        If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer
        than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
        problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.12 i586 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Tue Jul 11 11:16:03
2000
(--) using VT number 7

(II) Module ABI versions:
        XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
        XFree86 Video Driver: 0.1
        XFree86 XInput driver : 0.1
        XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
        XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.1
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.0, module version = 1.0.0
        Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
        ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.1
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.0, module version = 0.1.0
        ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.1
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x00000000, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0691 card 1043,8017 rev c4 class 06,00,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8598 card 0000,0000 rev 00 class 06,04,00
hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 1106,0596 card 1043,8017 rev 23 class 06,01,00
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:04:1: chip 1106,0571 card 0000,0000 rev 10 class 01,01,8a
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:04:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 11 class 0c,03,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:04:3: chip 1106,3050 card 0000,0000 rev 30 class 06,00,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 1102,0002 card 1102,8040 rev 08 class 04,01,00
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:0a:1: chip 1102,7002 card 1102,0020 rev 08 class 09,80,00
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,002d card 0000,0000 rev 15 class 03,00,00
hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.0, module version = 0.1.0
        ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.1
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
        [0] -1  0xe0000000 - 0xe1efffff (0x1f00000) MXB
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
        [0] -1  0xe1f00000 - 0xe3ffffff (0x2100000) MXB
(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) NVidia Riva Ultra 64 rev 21, Mem @ 0xe0000000/24,
0xe2000000/25
List of video drivers:
        nvidia
        mga
        glint
        nv
        tga
        s3virge
        sis
        rendition
        neomagic
        i740
        tdfx
        cirrus
        tseng
        trident
        chips
        apm
        fbdev
        ati
        r128
        i810
        cyrix
        vga
        v4l
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o
(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
        compiled for 4.0, module version = 1.0.3
        Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
        ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.1
(II) LoadModule: "mga"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_drv.o
(II) Module mga: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.0, module version = 1.0.0
        Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
        ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.1
(II) LoadModule: "glint"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o
(II) Module glint: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
        compiled for 4.0, module version = 1.0.0
        Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
        ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.1
(II) LoadModule: "nv"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nv_drv.o
Duplicate symbol RivaEnterLeave in
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nv_drv.o
Also defined in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o

Fatal server error:
Module load failure
=================================================================================================================================


hope you can help.

thanks

regards
foxin

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From: "Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: FS:  Win4Lin CD - Windows emulator for Linux
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:56:15 -0500

I have a Win4Lin CD that I purchased but have decided not to use it.  Works
great, I installed it with Windows 98 and all applications I tried ran fine.

If you interested in purchasing it please email me with an offer.  Retail is
$49.95 but I will take substantially less (as in around $20).

Larry




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From: "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: After reboot, keyboard+mouse is dead to Linux
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:03:44 -0500

Hi all -

I'm running RedHat 6.2.1.  After an unremarkable reboot, I lost
access to the console.  It prints the login prompt on the screen, but the
keyboard and mouse are non-responsive.  I can login via the network.
I can also use the console if I remotely take the system into single user
mode.  So, that tells me the hardware works, and that a getty is started
for the console when it goes to multiuser (because a login prompt is
printed).  Any thoughts?  I'm stumped.  I've tried run level 3 and 5.

Thanks in advance!

Jim Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From: "Gotzon Berrojalbiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: CDRECORD MESSAGE
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 05:56:46 +0200

I get this message when I do "cdrecord -scanbus":

0,0,0     0) 'IDE-CD  ' 'R/RW 4x4x24     ' '1.01' Removable CD-ROM
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities
page.
 0,1,0     1) 'LG      ' 'CD-ROM CRD-8483B' '1.00' Removable CD-ROM

What kind of problem is this? Does anybody know any solution?



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From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing KDE Desktop Icons - Template & Autostart
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 09:22:36 -0600

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris
Barone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a simple way  to get rid of these two icon's? I have no
> need for them, and they're starting to annoy me.....


    http://members.linuxstart.com/~netllama/desktop.htm

   It's for people like me that want all the damn desktop icons 
removed, but you'll find you can also just remove some. It's as 
simple as an edit to your  ~/.kde/share/config/kfmrc file.  In
Mandrake 7.1 I found that step 4) is unnecessary.

-- 
~~   Tom Brinkman    [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Subject: Re: Settings problems (Re: My Linux Adventure)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bluejay)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:28:46 GMT

[posted and mailed]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Laura Goodwin) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>Dex wrote:
>
>> If you've already tried these suggestions, sorry to be redundant. Did
>> you run Xconfigurator? It should set your display settings for you.
>> You can set up your networking by running linuxconf and going under
>> networking and setting up ppp.
>
>Thanks Dex.
>
>What is happening is I don't know what to say when asked for a video
>card.  I've got a FIC PAG-2130 motherboard (VIA chipset) with a Trident
>AGP onboard.  I have 128 MB of PC-100 SDRAM, and of that I set aside 8
>MB of RAM for the vid.
>
>I can go in and set up my monitor, but that too is a bit weird and asks
>some things I don't know how to answer, like about RAMDAC and
>clockspeeds.  It's all very frustrating, and I can't get a decent
>display, no matter what I do.
>
>I also can't find a way to enable the soundblaster-compat onboard
>sound.  I did sndconfig and put in the settings I got from
>BIOS...nothing!  It's like the sys sees nothing there, although it works
>fine in Windows.
>
>I had similar problems when I tried BeOS.  What's infuriating is my
>chipset, CPU, vid chipset, and sound are all supposed to be supported by
>Linux, especially a recent distro like this one.  I'm so discouraged
>right now, I can't even tell you.  I consulted several manuals both
>online and hard copy, I asked you guys in the NGs, I tried getting my
>Linux-advocate pal over here to hold my hand through the whole
>thing...NOTHING.  
>
>No progress.  After reloading the OS several times to correct the many
>ways I buggered it, I'm just worn out and kind of disgusted, frankly.
>
>

Hi Laura,

I know just how you feel. I, too, am just getting into Linux and it is far 
from intuitive. More and more I get the feeling that the graphical 
interface is just a pretence and you really have to learn the underlying 
Unix to make decent progress. As for stability, my Red Hat Linux hung 3 or 
4 times while I was configuring it (or trying to <g>) and I was forced to 
reinstall that number of times. I'll go a little further, but not much...

-- 
bluejay

My reply address is correct as is. The courtesy of providing a correct
reply address is more important to me than time spent deleting spam.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What are my options on booting a two disk PC
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:16:14 GMT

i have Linux (SuSe 6.3) installed on a separate 2GB disk.  my first disk
has win98.  the system normally boots into win98 (mbr on master config),
but if i want to run linux, i simply insert the boot diskette into the
floppy drive.

i have installed boot magic by Powerquest, followed their directions,
but to no avail.  i simply don't know why it doesn't work.  of course, i
could use LILO, but i don't understand the instructions in my manual
pertaining to win98 as the default, in particular, the "table" entry.  i
had LILO installed, but have cleared my mbr since, because it only
booted up into linux.

i've also read about loadlin.exe and have seen suggestions about setting
up my config.sys and autoex files, but am unsure about trying this out.

what is my best approach to being able to have a dual-boot system with
my two hard disks?

thank you all


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From: "www.3DGAMEMAN.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Corel Linux doesn't seem to install corectly - HELP ME please 
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:30:26 GMT

Corel Linux doesn't seem to install corectly - HELP ME please

I've installed Corel Linux from the boot CD onto a 1gig HD and everything
goes fine, however when it reboots there a scrolling screen of numbers. Very
strange, all I see is 0's and 1's scrolling down the screen.

What's going on, I've tried installing it twice with the same result.

Regards...
http://www.3dgameman.com



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: error message problem
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 14:35:22 GMT

the 2 files in (ftp:ftp.redhat.com/pub/rawhide)
 i get glib-1.2.8-2.i386.rpm and glib10-1.0.6-8.i386.rpm 2 files, and
upgrade process isn't a problem, i restart the computer
 and go to linux again, but when "Linux" prepare to boot from X-Win have
following errors messgae:

 localhost login: /usr/bin/gdm: error in loading shared libraries:
/usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0: symbol get pwuid_r, version
 GLIBC_2.1.2 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
 more.........................................
 more.................................
 INIT: ld "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

 * I set my linux boot to X-Win to login, not in console mode to login.



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From: Shuly Wintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Subject: Re: 3Com Linux Driver
Date: 18 Jul 2000 10:51:24 -0400

anyweb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> if you have a 'win'modem then it is designed for use in
> Microsoft 'Win'dows
> 
> winmodems should NOT work under linux (any flavor) you need a standard
> modem to do that
> 
> please do correct me if I am wrong

You're wrong. Check http://www.linmodems.org/ for the latest on
winmodems under Linux. Also check http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
for more information on winmodems and Linux.

FWIW, the winmodem in my Dell Latitude LS works fine under Linux.

-- 
Shuly Wintner  
Institute for Research in Cognitive Science, University of Pennsylvania   
3401 Walnut Street, Suite 400A, Philadelphia, PA 19104-6228
Tel: +1 (215) 898-0326     Fax: +1 (215) 573-9247 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~shuly

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From: sylvain hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Major Bullshit while Installing Linux Redhat 2.6
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:54:39 -0700



John Smith wrote:

> Well Ppl.
> when i'm installing RedHat 2.6, my computer freezes when i hit the next key

RH 2.6???

>
> and a box comes up saying sumfin about looping HDA1 or sumfin, and freezes
> there.. but my mouse is able to move.. i left it in that position for like 1
> hour.. and still my mouse can move but nufin changes. i've tried to install
> it like 5 -6 times and i get tha same error!!
>
> a direct email to me from any1 who could help would be cool
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: sylvain hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NFS
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:57:58 -0700


Does anyone know where NFS (YP) and  automounter are configured??
I'm using RH 6.1.
Thanks,

Sly.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: ImageMagick, rpm and libttf.so.4 problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:06:48 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <David Punsalan> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I need libtff.so.4 to install ImageMagick, but I can't find where to get
>it. 
>
>I am running RH6.1 on 486dx 50mHz pc.
>
>Since my resources are severly limited - I installed a very small set of
>applications and libraries on this computer.
>
>Now I want to add ImageMagick. So I login as root, goto the RPMS directory
>on my RH6.1 cdrom and do this:
>> rpm -i ImageMagick-4.0-4-i386.rpm
> error on install:
> libttf.so.4 is needed by ImageMagick-4.0-4-i386.rpm

libttf is part of freetype;

If you're using rpm, bookamrk this site:

rpmfind.net

If you ever get this error again, find the rpm you're installing,
and view it's page

The links under the 'Requires' heading tell you what package
they're from.

Oh, version 5 is out by the look of it too ;)

-- 

Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.

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From: sylvain hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mount the diskette
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:16:45 -0700

Salut Carol,

your fstab should be in you etc: so go pico /etc/fstab.

I'll tell you what I did before configuring my fstab:

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /home (you can use user or whatever).

good luck,
Sly.


> I have a problem for mounting the diskette. Here what i did (when there is a
> ok at the end of a line it mean that the command is working).
>
> [root@localhost /]#  fdformat /dev/fd0h1440  ok
>
> [root@localhost /]# mkefs /dev/fd0
> bash:command not found
>
> same thing with mkfs -t ext2
>
> [root@localhost /]# mkdir /floppy ok
>
> [root@localhost /]# mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy
> bash: wrong fs type .. bad option, bad superblock
>
> when i try to open the file /dev/fstab it's says that this directory doesn't
> exist .
> I need to open this directory so i can load the mounting point with
> this command.
>
> [root@localhost /]#   /dev/fd0 /floppy auto noauto,user 0 0
>
> I want to know what's wrong and  how can i achieve this(mounting the
> disquette).


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From: /dev/niall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't load xwindows after edditing xf86config
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 15:12:15 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Andy Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently installed a wheel mouse and edited my xf86config.  When I
> rebooted xwindows would not start, the screen just keeps blinking.
When I
> ctrl-alt-delete and shut down it reads that the mouse server could not
> start.  I have it set up to automatically boot xwindows, can someone
tell me
> how to prevent xwindows from loading so I can edit xf86config?
>

Change your system's runlevel to 3 (it's 5 now). It's in /etc/inittab
usually.

You can get to a terminal by hitting CTRL-ALT-F2. If you go to F1 you'll
see crap from X. X itself runs on VC7.

--
/dev/niall, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Toby Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: x-window problem on IBM 760XL
Date: 18 Jul 2000 11:16:54 -0400

!! "Sam" == S S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  Sam> Hi folks, I need your help...  I got an IBM 760XL laptop, type
  Sam> 9547-U9C.  The RH6.2 installation detected Trident TGUI9660
  Sam> video.  However IBM said it has a TGUI 9385.  The laptop has 1mb
  Sam> vram...

  Sam> I tried many setups, and pretty much exhausted whatever I could
  Sam> found on the net on the XF86Config and still couldn't get the
  Sam> x-window help..  I'm totally stumb!!!

  Sam> Hope someone here might have a working 760XL or someone out there
  Sam> can help me out.....

Er. From the looks of a quick search on Google, I'd say your chances are
pretty good. Here are some links for example XF86Config scripts:

http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9808/msg00811.html
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9808/msg00792.html
http://www.sanpei.org/Laptop-X/Laptop-X/IBM_IBM_ThinkPad_760XL

Don't be put off just because they are Debian scripts - compare and
contrast them with your own and edit accordingly. The major differences
between distributions often boil down to paths to certain items, such as
fonts, so use the paths that xf86config has given you already and the
rest of the config from a working example script. Normally I wouldn't
point to sample xf86config's because for most people you need to
configure your own, but laptops are pretty standard from one 760XL to
another and the scripts are more directly interchangeable.

By the way, the Google search terms I used were

IBM 760XL xfree86

Take a look yourself :-)

Cheers,
Toby Haynes

-- 

Toby Haynes
The views and opinions expressed in this message are my own, and do
not necessarily reflect those of IBM Canada.

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From: lang christophe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: XF86Setup
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 17:36:52 +0200

Hi,

I recently installed Mandrake 6.1 and I get the next message when I try
to launch XF86Setup :

"warning server specification missing in card database entry trident
tgui9660 (generic) line 2513"

Someone can help me please ?

thanks

--
Christophe Lang - LIFC
tel: +33 (0)3 81 66 64 59 - fax: +33 (0)3 81 66 64 50
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://lib.univ-fcomte.fr/www/PEOPLE/lang/Lang.html




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From: Sean Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:39:46 -0400


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Ahh, I actually hadn't though of that, thanks.  On the good side we don't do
anything confidential here since this is an academic research lab.  However the
idea of having people listening to our conversations is, well, disconcerting.


Lew Pitcher wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:43:42 -0400, Sean Andersson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
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> >As I understand it these devices are
> >allocated to the first user to log
> >in to the machine.  Is there a way
> >to change this?  We have users that
> >need to log in remotely and access
> >the sound devices but they are
> >unable if someone has logged in
> >locally or previously.  At the
> >moment I just log in when they ask
> >me to fix this and set the
> >permissions.
>
> Realize that when you permit other users (local or remote) access to
> these devices (specifically /dev/dsp), you are introducing a non-file
> security risk. Imagine a remote user that starts a process to read
> from /dev/dsp (and switch /dev/mixer to "microphone input, max gain"),
> and transmit the raw data to another system where the audio is then
> reconstructed on the remote system and output to it's speakers.
>
> This would effectively permit that remote user to eavesdrop on the
> microphone's location. If the intercepted sound is of a sensitive
> nature (a confidential conversation, for instance), whatever privacy
> and/or security was assumed to be in place has now been breached.
>
> >--
> >Sean Andersson
> >Graduate Research Assistant
> >Institute for Systems Research
> >University of Maryland
> >
> >
> >
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> ><html>
> >As I understand it these devices are allocated to the first user to log
> >in to the machine.&nbsp; Is there a way to change this?&nbsp; We have users
> >that need to log in remotely and access the sound devices but they are
> >unable if someone has logged in locally or previously.&nbsp; At the moment
> >I just log in when they ask me to fix this and set the permissions.
> ><pre>--&nbsp;
> >Sean Andersson
> >Graduate Research Assistant
> >Institute for Systems Research
> >University of Maryland</pre>
> >&nbsp;</html>
> >
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> Lew Pitcher
> Information Technology Consultant
> Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
>
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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> (Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

--
Sean Andersson
Graduate Research Assistant
Institute for Systems Research
University of Maryland



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Ahh, I actually hadn't though of that, thanks.&nbsp; On the good side we
don't do anything confidential here since this is an academic research
lab.&nbsp; However the idea of having people listening to our conversations
is, well, disconcerting.
<br>&nbsp;
<p>Lew Pitcher wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 12:43:42 -0400, Sean Andersson
<br>&lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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<br>>As I understand it these devices are
<br>>allocated to the first user to log
<br>>in to the machine.&nbsp; Is there a way
<br>>to change this?&nbsp; We have users that
<br>>need to log in remotely and access
<br>>the sound devices but they are
<br>>unable if someone has logged in
<br>>locally or previously.&nbsp; At the
<br>>moment I just log in when they ask
<br>>me to fix this and set the
<br>>permissions.
<p>Realize that when you permit other users (local or remote) access to
<br>these devices (specifically /dev/dsp), you are introducing a non-file
<br>security risk. Imagine a remote user that starts a process to read
<br>from /dev/dsp (and switch /dev/mixer to "microphone input, max gain"),
<br>and transmit the raw data to another system where the audio is then
<br>reconstructed on the remote system and output to it's speakers.
<p>This would effectively permit that remote user to eavesdrop on the
<br>microphone's location. If the intercepted sound is of a sensitive
<br>nature (a confidential conversation, for instance), whatever privacy
<br>and/or security was assumed to be in place has now been breached.
<p>>--
<br>>Sean Andersson
<br>>Graduate Research Assistant
<br>>Institute for Systems Research
<br>>University of Maryland
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<br>>As I understand it these devices are allocated to the first user to
log
<br>>in to the machine.&amp;nbsp; Is there a way to change this?&amp;nbsp;
We have users
<br>>that need to log in remotely and access the sound devices but they
are
<br>>unable if someone has logged in locally or previously.&amp;nbsp; At
the moment
<br>>I just log in when they ask me to fix this and set the permissions.
<br>>&lt;pre>--&amp;nbsp;
<br>>Sean Andersson
<br>>Graduate Research Assistant
<br>>Institute for Systems Research
<br>>University of Maryland&lt;/pre>
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<p>Lew Pitcher
<br>Information Technology Consultant
<br>Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
<p>([EMAIL PROTECTED])
<p>(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)</blockquote>

<pre>--&nbsp;
Sean Andersson
Graduate Research Assistant
Institute for Systems Research
University of Maryland</pre>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Defraging against LILO?
Date: 18 Jul 2000 15:38:09 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Unai Garro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: But it does not seem to be only that. The partition table seems to be
: damaged too. Should that recover it also?

How do you know, and what do you mean by "damaged"? Is it consistent?
If so, it's undameged but possibly has been changed. At any rate, check
it out after booting from a rescue diskette or the cd. If booting
from diskette you'll need a rescue root diskette as well as the rescue
boot diskette ... if your system is weirded, that is, and you're not
using a one-diskette rescue system ... 

(until you start giving details, as in literal error messages and 
configuration printouts, you will continue to receive only the vaguest
of replies!)

: "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
:> In comp.os.linux.misc Unai Garro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : I had installed both Linux Mandrake 7.0 and the Win98 on the same hard
:> : disk, when I decided to defragment the disk under Windoze. I thought
:> : that this should not be a problem, because Windows was not able to 'see'
:> : the Linux partitions. It has however destroyed the LILO, so it is not
:> : possible to boot up neither Linux nor Windoze.
:> 
:> Well, so what? Put it back. Get out your rescue diskette or
:> installation cd and boot from that, and put lilo back on the MBR
:> once booted.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Knecht)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.0 won't install
Date: 18 Jul 2000 15:48:57 GMT

I got mine to install yesterday in text mode ('linux text' 
response at boot). I still have to do xwindows, SMB (I think), 
ppp, and sound. Then the usual tuning. I was told the graphic 
version wouldn't install right unless I had >= 64M RAM. Possibly 
related to your problem? Try the text version of install.

Ken

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey S. Kline) wrote in
<5eYc5.1471$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>At least your getting that far... Mine gets all the way
>through loading everything up and on the part... just before
>installing lilo.... it gets a segmentation fault and
>aborts... Does this on 3 different machines with differing
>hardware.... (go figure). 
>


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