Linux-Setup Digest #206, Volume #19              Thu, 20 Jul 00 11:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux & c++ ("Rob Sykes")
  Re: Apache + PHP3 + Oracle ("Bart Stuut")
  SERVERS ("Simon")
  Alpha AXP 150 (a.k.a. Jensen) ("Michael")
  Re: lucent winmodem in laptop (Stephan Gross)
  ZIP (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=BFW=A9t=A8D=B1=D1?=)
  Re: No Sounds - SBLive! - Need Forced Settings ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux disk partition (sandesh)
  Re: Removing KDE Desktop Icons - Template & Autostart (P.T.Gowadia)
  Re: YP and + ("Jeff Wilson")
  Re: SERVERS (Mark R. Holbrook)
  Re: Starting from scratch on Alpha... (John Beardmore)
  NVIDIA Geforce 2 to work in X-Windows?? ("Andrew J Sears")
  Re: Disabling NIS at boot ("Ben Brown")
  Re: ZIP (Scott Nolde)
  Re: Windows manager RedHat 6.2 ? (Scott Nolde)
  Re: Remote CDROM Problem :( (savo)
  Apache ("Michael")
  Re: Dual Boot With Windows98 and Linux (Scott Nolde)
  Give it to me straight, Ghostscript.... ("Martin Fitzpatrick")
  Re: RedHat & PAM problem ... (Scott Nolde)

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From: "Rob Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux & c++
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:59:22 +0100



"dale hites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3smd5.452$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Okay, if not appropriate just ignore. I'm having a problem with my c++
> application. I'm running Red Hat Linux 6.02,
> kernel version 2.2.12-20. When I run the program below I get a
segmentation
> fault. As you can see, the program is very sophisticated. Any clues?
>
> Make file:
>
> Test.out : Test.o
>  gcc -oTest.out /usr/lib/libg++.so.2.7.2 Test.o
>
> Test.o : Test.cpp
>  gcc -c -I/usr/lib/glib/include Test.cpp
>
> Source file:
>
> #include <iostream.h>
>
> main (int numargs, char ** args)
> {
>  cout << "Bob" << endl;
> }
>
>
"int main" has been covered

use #include <iostream>

If I'm right, the .h-less headers are the standard

then

#include <iostream>

int main (int numargs, char ** args)
{
      std::cout << "Bob" << std::endl;
}

or

#include <iostream>

using namespace std;

int main (int numargs, char ** args)
{
      cout << "Bob" << endl;
}

should do it.

--
Rob Sykes

Remove NOSPAM to e-mail



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From: "Bart Stuut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache + PHP3 + Oracle
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 12:28:13 GMT

In article <ZqBd5.72774$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alain"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone.
> 
> 
> 
> I have a Redhat Linux 6.2 webserver, with Apache 1.3.12 (+PHP3)
> installed. Now I want to use PHP3 to access a remote Oracle database
> located on another PC. What do I have to do to accomplish this? (I have
> an Oracle 8.1.6 CD) I guess I will have to install the cli�nt programs
> of Oracle. But after that, do I have to configure anything else? (will
> the standard redhat PHP work?). The purpose is that the machine is ready
> so that the programmer can dump his code onto the machine.
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> 
> Alain [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Alain,

Best thing to do is to read:

http://www.php.net/manual/ref.oci8.php

In short your assumption of installing the client software is correct, as
can be read in the start paragraph:

"These functions allow you to access Oracle8 and Oracle7 databases. It
uses
the Oracle8 Call-Interface (OCI8). You will need the Oracle8 client
libraries to use this extension.

This extension is more flexible than the standard Oracle extension. It
supports binding of global and local PHP variables to Oracle placeholders,
has full LOB, FILE and ROWID support and allows you to use user-supplied
define variables."

Futher definition and discussion of the various Oracle specific functions
you will find on this page. It might especially be good to read the
annotations on this page in order to find problems and solutions that you
might run into.

On a side note, you might want to upgrade to PHP 4.x

Bart


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From: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SERVERS
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:43:55 +0100

Hi,

 Can someone let me know how to set up your own web server, I am pissed off
with hosting companies and poor performance.

please reply to

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks.

Simon.



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From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Alpha AXP 150 (a.k.a. Jensen)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 08:35:12 -0400

Hi.

I have Redhat 6.2 running on my PIII workstation...works great.  Has anyone
tried to install it on the alpha axp 150 ? Are all features supported?  What
is the lowest\earliest alpha that redhat 6.2 will run on?

Thanks

Michael



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From: Stephan Gross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lucent winmodem in laptop
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:37:44 +0200

On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Wesley Wong wrote:

> I don't have problem using it in 2.2.14 (althought it also complain that
> somes symbols are not defined...) but when I upgrade to 2.2.16-3 ... it
> doesn't work... any clue how to make it work again?
> p.s. I have to upgrade my kernel cuz I have to let it recognize my HTP366
> device.... and the 20GIG HD in there..
> 

ppp code has been improved between 2.2.14 and 2.2.15. You can find a
patched version of the ppp module at

http://www.heby.de/computer/ltmodem

This works for me just fine (I'm using an IBM ThinkPad A20p).

Regards,
Stephan.

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=BFW=A9t=A8D=B1=D1?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: it.comp.linux,linux.help
Subject: ZIP
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 20:54:39 +0800

I am using Mandrake Linux 7.0, does it has support for Zip Drives? My
zip drive is connected through the parallel port. If it has support for
Zip Drive, how should I configure?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: No Sounds - SBLive! - Need Forced Settings
Date: 20 Jul 2000 13:37:06 GMT

In linux.redhat.install Chris Barone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: use. The very first step they want, will not execute. 'tar -xvfz' Since I am new
: to Linux, this is a slow battle. Thanks for your time - Chris

the "tar xvzf emu101k-20000720.tar.gz"

has nothing to do with plug and play, sound, or anything like that.  It is
simply an unzip/unpack command.  If it is failing you have something else
going on.  Most likely the download failed somehow (Netscape tried to
silently gunzip, short file, ASCII download instead of BINARY).

What error are you getting from tar?

I went back to your original post and have some other comments/questions:

-Linux is totally happy with PCI.  You can read about lots of historical
problems developers had with various motherboards, but that is past.

-Silly question (like "is it plugged in?")

  What does the following do (assumes RedHat system)?:

  modprobe emu10k1
  play /usr/share/sndconfig/sample.au

  Your speakers are on, right?  Also run aumix to check the mixer levels.

-What makes you think there is a conflict?  Are you getting any error
 messages during boot, or when you type the above commands?  What do the
 following give:

 cat /proc/interrupts
 cat /proc/ioports
 cat /proc/dma

-Do you have the pci=reverse option in /etc/lilo.conf?  The Creative SBLive
 on linux FAQ says this will screw the card up, and the error message looks
 like a conflict problem.

-You might try ALSA instead of the Creative drivers.  Even if it doesn't work,
it may generate different errors messages to help put you back on track.

hope this helps,
Chris


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From: sandesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux disk partition
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:30:04 GMT


bmeson wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have just ordered a new 30G disk for my PII-400 machine. With my old 
10G
> one, I now have 40G disk space to play around. I have installed Win95/Red
> Hat 6.0 dual system before on the 10G disk and soon used up the space. So
> when Win95 crashed I just reinstalled the Win95, not Linux. And now I 
want
> to put Linux back.
> 
> I want to start from Red Hat 6.0 since I have done this before. I will 
use
> 10G space dedicated to Linux and another 10G share with Win95. Later I
> probably will play with other flavor like Mandrake. I would like your 
advice
> on how to partition my disk so I won't need to re-partition to install 
new
> stuff.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
Hi !
 when Win95 crashed you just reinstalled the Win95, so if yyou want to 
make linux as your default OS from BIOS setup make your cd-rom as a first 
boot device and put your RHL cd to upgrade setup your linux , not 
customize setup.It is easy way to restore your LILO boot.
                               Feedback please   


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From: P.T.Gowadia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing KDE Desktop Icons - Template & Autostart
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:30:08 GMT


Chris Barone wrote:
> 
> Is there a simple way  to get rid of these two icon's? I have no need
> for them, and they're starting to annoy me.....
I would suggest that you do not delete them,but move them to some other 
place.Open any one of the icons by clicking it,go up one level,and either 
delete or move them to another directory,such as Trash.You can do the same 
by the command line.The icons are in your $HOME /Desktop directory.ZBy 
moving them to some other directory,they are not visible.


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From: "Jeff Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: YP and +
Date: 20 Jul 2000 13:44:32 GMT

YP is usually called NIS nowadays but most of the commands begin yp.
The command 'man -k yp' will list some useful man pages and the
linuxconf section 'Network Information System (NIS)' will do most of
the work. From your posting your machine will be a NIS client so you'll
need to know the domainname of the NIS server, if you don't already
know it. The output from the command domainname will supply it.
-- 

                             Jeff Wilson

sylvain hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
| Hi,
| I've got  a little more info now, I'm using Red Hat 6.1 right now,
and I
| was asked to configure the yp, ypinit, ypbind etc, whatever that is.
| 
| Once I've done that I should be able to look at all the maps, like
the
| passwd file, the hosts, file etc.
| 
| 
| Another thing I need to do is set up the automounter, which will do
the
| dynamic
| mounting of directories from other machine.
| 
| If anybody has any info or knows a site where I can get that info I
will
| very thankful,
| 
| Thanks a lot,
| 
| 
| Sly.
| 
| 

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From: Mark R. Holbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SERVERS
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 06:49:05 -0700

Well Simon,

I'm not selling web hosting services here but I don't think you will
get better performance doing it yourself.  

You need to examine the following questions first.  If the answer is
yes to all of them then sure you can "roll your own" web server:

1) do you have a full time internet connection with a static IP
address?
2) Does your full-time ISP provider allow servers?  Many companies
offering DSL and Cable modem access explicitly dis-allow servers.  You
might be able to slide by if you don't "advertize" the fact that you
are running a server.  Many of the companies will look at your traffic
on a periodic basis.  Lets say your average packet load was 10.5 MB
per month.  Then you put your web server online and offer family
movies for download.  If all of a sudden your packet load ups to 35 MB
per month and stays there for several months a good DSL/cable company
will do a port search on your IP address.  If they find a web server
you could be out of IP service pretty quick.
3) If your main concern is "poor performance", many hosting companies
are tied directly to back-bones.  This will ALWAYS beat any kind of
hosting you can do via a DSL/cable modem.
4) Are you prepared to deal with backups, firewall issues, and such?
Many hosting companies do this for you as part of the package.  If you
simply put your linux box "online" there are many "hackers" with too
much time and too little to do and it makes a NICE target to try and
crash.  Unless you have a good firewall you may be setting your self
up for more work than its worth.  Remember, that to make your new web
server available to the world, you have to make the IP address known.
Either you simply tell people to goto http://###.###.###.### or you
use a re-director service like www.namesecure.com or you go through
the pain of registering your IP address with the DNS system.  In any
of these ways someone that cares can find out your IP address.  My
system gets attacked 3 or 4 times a month but my firewall does a
pretty good job of rebuffing the attacks.

Simon,

This can be done but it is alot of work.  I do it simply for control.
I run some linux scripts that most hosting companies would not touch.

Hope this helps.

Mark

On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:43:55 +0100, "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi,
>
> Can someone let me know how to set up your own web server, I am pissed off
>with hosting companies and poor performance.
>
>please reply to
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Thanks.
>
>Simon.
>


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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: Starting from scratch on Alpha...
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 15:28:52 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, blowfish
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Alex Collins wrote:
>> 
>> In article <[email protected]>, John Beardmore
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>> 
>> Hi There.
>> 
>> >I'm about to inherit an old DEC Alpha box which has spent its corporate
>> >life running NT4.  I think it's 133MHz.
>> 
>> Sounds like a Multia ? Small ? squareish ?
>> >
>> >I want to put Linux on it to perform the following tasks:
>> >
>> >  IP ISDN gateway to ISP, maybe firewall, maybe proxy server, maybe IP
>> >  router,
>> 
>NetBSD runs on almost anything.  From Amaga to Dec Alpha.

It turns out these are Alpha Server 2100 machines.


>> That's fine. should cause no problems. ISDN can be a pain to setup with
>> Linux, and you will need a late version of Linux. - suggest RedHat 6.X
>> if you don't already have the card, the BT Speedway works well for me.
>
>SuSE has out of the box default set up for ISDN.

OK.


>> >  Fax system, maybe offering network fax facilities to 95, 98, NT and
>> >  Win2k machines using either a modem or smart ISDN card.
>> 
>> Sendmail can do this for you, but only for text. If you need more, use
>> efax.
>> >
>> >  Print spooler for HP LJ 4M+ PS600 and Epson Stylus Photo EX, offering
>> >  print services to 95, 98 NT and Win2k machines.
>> >
>> Comes as standard. Use ghost script printing. / Samba.
>> 
>
>*BSD has Sharity. Works really good, much smaller footprint, and easier
>to set up than Samba.

OK.


>> >  File server to 95, 98, NT and Win2k machines.
>> >
>> Samba again.
>> 
>> >
>> >Am I going to get lucky with any or all of this ?  If so, what is the
>> >best distribution to use, and where can I get it in the UK ?
>> >
>> 
>> RedHat - fairly well developed for the Alpha. and comes with everything
>> that you need.
>> 
>If you want to waste your time fixing everything.  Go for Red Face.
>
>NetBSD beats the craps out of everybody for cross-platform
>competability.
>
>It's opensource and free too.
>
>I'd go for NetBSD for anything other than x86 platform.

OK.  Any idea where I can get it in the UK ?


>> You can get RedHat from a variety of places. Where are you on this
>> planet?
>> 
>> http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk has offered me, and many others a very
>> good service.

Do they also do BSD ?


Cheers, J/.
-- 
John Beardmore

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From: "Andrew J Sears" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: NVIDIA Geforce 2 to work in X-Windows??
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:27:22 GMT

I know drivers are posted on the NVIDIA web site but there are different
versions. I have Caldera eDesktop 2.4. The versions they have posted are for
Redhat 6.1, 6.2,  and other RPMs.

My video is even corrupted at the prompt. I can't see a thing! Does anyone
know how NOT to boot into KDE using Caldera eDesktop 2.4? It would have to
be a command at boot time since I can't see once it's booted.

Thank You.
Andrew
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






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From: "Ben Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Disabling NIS at boot
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:10:50 +0100

run the command ntsysv

Frank E Harrell Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> By mistake I answered yes when installation of RedHat 6.2
> asked me if I wanted NIS enabled.  Is the following the
> correct procedure for disabling this at boot time?
> cd /etc/rc.d/rc3.d
> rm K84ypserv  (symbolic link to ../init.d/ypserv)
> rm K34yppasswdd
>
> Thanks in advance  -Frank
>
> --
> Frank E Harrell Jr
> Professor of Biostatistics and Statistics
> Division of Biostatistics and Epidemiology
> Department of Health Evaluation Sciences
> University of Virginia School of Medicine
> http://hesweb1.med.virginia.edu/biostat
>
>



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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: it.comp.linux,linux.help
Subject: Re: ZIP
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:49:51 GMT

�W�t�D�� wrote:
> 
> I am using Mandrake Linux 7.0, does it has support for Zip Drives? My
> zip drive is connected through the parallel port. If it has support for
> Zip Drive, how should I configure?

The zip drive is usually made available through a kernel module.  Be
careful though that you do not have a parallel printer type setup or
else the module won't load.  Do a 'lsmod' to see what modules you have
loaded first.

[root@lnx /root]# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
ppp                    20524   0  (autoclean) (unused)
slhc                    4696   0  (autoclean) [ppp]
tulip                  31872   1  (autoclean)
opl3                   14536   1 
sb                     37268   1 
uart401                 6608   1  [sb]
sound                  63928   0  [opl3 sb uart401]
soundlow                 420   0  [sound]
soundcore               3428   6  [sb sound]


I don't see anything on my machine.  Connect the ZIP drive to the
parallel port, connect power.

Try 'insmod ppa' to insert the ppa module into the kernel.  If it works,
you'll hear the ZIP drive turn.

Please read the ZIP Drive-HOWTO on how to format and mount the drive.

- Scott
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Never do Windows again with  |  Scott M. Nolde
Linux!  No streaks, haze or  |  smnoldelinux|nospam|@mediaone.net
glaze!                       |  
10:40am up 11:10, 1 user, load average: 1.24, 1.10, 1.12

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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows manager RedHat 6.2 ?
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:53:45 GMT

Ed Bras wrote:
> 
> How can I change the window focus to be "move over" instead of "clicking on
> it" ??
> 
> With my laptop (Linux RH 6.2. workstation installed) I did that through the
> Control center of gnome-> window manager and then running the "Run
> configuration tool for Elightenment" that is the active one.
> 
> However, with my server (Linux RH 6.2. server installed), this button for
> "Run configuration tool for Elightenment" is disables, such that I am not
> able to change the acitvde window selection !!
> 
> Please tell me what to do about that ?
> BTtw: I am running xdm on the server and gdm on the laptop.
> Regards,
> Ed Bras

try e-conf from a term window if you have it.  Under Basic Options,
select Mouse Pointer.

- Scott
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glaze!                       |  
10:45am up 11:15, 2 users, load average: 1.05, 1.10, 1.10

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From: savo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Remote CDROM Problem :(
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:58:53 GMT

Or you can ftp into it, drop off the RPMs
telnet into and install it


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From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:03:54 GMT

Hi all,

I've got Apache 1.3.12 up and running.
My DocumentRoot was /www/htdocs
but i changed it to /home/testuser/public_html

but i keep getting a Forbidden message when going to the website.
EVerything works fine when I change DocumentRoot back to /www/htdocs

Any suggestions on how to solve this?
I have Redhat Linux 6.1. I tried some chmod stuff but that didn't seem to
help much.
I also have <Directory /home/testuser/public_html> thing in my httpd.conf
file.

Thanks for help.

Michael B



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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual Boot With Windows98 and Linux
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:05:26 GMT

Phil wrote:
> 
> I have a Corel version of Linux and want to install it on a Windows 98
> machine.  I have 2 drives available so can give one of them to Linux.
> Will the Linux install take over the machine or should I install it in a
> DOS/Windows partition?
> 
> --
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I have two hard drives also, one for linux and the other for windoze +
linux.  HOWEVER, I have linux as the master hard drive with the other
the slave.  Here's how I did it.

1.  If windows is the way you like it, remove it from the computer.
2.  Install other hard drive (dedicated for linux).
3.  Install your favorite flavor of linux.  Make sure it boots from the
hard drive.
4.  Install the windows drive as the slave hard drive.
5.  Boot to linux (single user mode)
6.  Edit /etc/lilo.conf and add the following:

other=/dev/hdb1
        label=win
        map-drive = 0x80
        to = 0x81
        map-drive = 0x81
        to = 0x80

The above refers to my windows mbr being on /dev/hdb1.  I've given it a
label called win.  Whenever i boot i can press <TAB> and it'll show me
my linux choices plus win to run windows.

8.  Run lilo.  Run lilo again.
9.  Reboot your computer.
10. Select your OS.

This is my configuration.  Your mileage may vary.  It's worked very well
without risking any of my windows data (mostly games).

- Scott
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10:55am up 11:25, 2 users, load average: 1.06, 1.04, 1.06

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From: "Martin Fitzpatrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Give it to me straight, Ghostscript....
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 16:05:50 +0100

I quite new to Linux, but have been doing Unix admin for 10+years, so I
*think* I should be able to tell Shinola from its more common relative...
;-)

I have recently installed Caldera 2.2 and upgraded to the 2.2.15 kernel.
I've been trying to get ghostscript working, but without much success.

I've tried different printer drivers with the version of Ghostscript which
came with the distro (5.10), but there was something 'strange' about the
scripts - hardcoded variables had been inserted, where they should have been
derived from an environment variable, etc. It looked as if someone was
half-way through hacking it.

"Okay," I said, "I'll get the latest version off the net." Took a bit of
time to find something which I thought was worthwhile (version 5.50), and
downloaded a couple of tar files. However, it wasn't immediately obvious to
me where I should extract them into, so I thought "It's about time I got up
to speed with this all-singing, all-dancing rpm thingy." So I downloaded the
rpm and ran kpackage on it. Now, it may just be me, but I couldn't follow
how any of kpackage's actions related to real-time events ! I mean, I would
do something like ask it to install an rpm and it would pop up a window
showing me what rpms were installed, with no obvious reference to the one I
was trying to install. Is this a know effect, or am I just being stoopid ?

Well, eventually some chain of actions lead to the files being installed -
but they seemed to be the exact same files I had downloaded manually myself
! However, I took it that the directory they had dropped into was probably
the correct one, and started extracting them. Well, it was an interesting
experience and certainly did cover a lot of ground. There were .tar files,
.tar.gz files, .tgz files, a genuine, bedoiune, dyed in the wool MSDOS .zip
file - which I had to pull onto a PC, unzip with WinZip and FTP the files
back.

Next, like a good boy, I read the READMEs, and finally found one which
explained the two additional libraries I was going to need and how I should
install these. Progress indeed ! So I got them off the net and extracted
them. Read a few more READMEs and finally felt I was ready to try a make.

Well, once I'd hacked a couple of .c and .mak files in order to get the make
to run through them, I was really starting to loose momentum. I was
definitely barking by this point and the words "tree", "up", "the" and
"wrong" were wandering round my head trying to form a sentence. ( "a",
"steaming", "pile" and "of" were also recruiting for a fifth member of the
band, but that's another story).

Before I spend the rest of my hard-earned hair/lifetime on this, is there
anyone out there who can tell me if I'm clearly onto a loser ? I understand
that what I'm playing with is the Gnu hand-me-down and nothing like the
Alladin production version, but I'd have hoped for better than this. Am I
going to need the Alladin version to stand a serious chance with it ? Or is
the whole thing cobblers, including the Alladin version ? Is it usual to
download an rpm which includes the sort of motley crew of files I found in
mine, or am I downloading rpms from the wrong place (I downloaded from a
RedHat mirror site , so I'd have thought it would be okay) ? In other words,
please, please help me before I use up the remainder of my dwindling supply
of sanity. If you have trod this rock road before, then please let me learn
from your experience. At present I'm better off 'cat'ing things to lp0 than
trying to get lp to do anything sensible, and I just can't believe that's
right.

One other thing, I'm also trying to sort out my modem port, for which I
gathered that the best diagnostic tool would be kermit. Okay, download it,
try to install it, kpackage tells me it needs a newer glibc. Okay, download
that, try to install it, kpackage tells me something along the line of the
new package is required by something else in the system. Is it likely that
I'm simply in the situation where I'm trying to rebuild something that
already exists (only it exists as a previous version of itself) and kpackage
is just trying to stop me stomping on the original, or is there something
more insidious going on ?

Any help appreciated, Linux is currently making a happy man very old !

Regards,
Martin.



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From: Scott Nolde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat & PAM problem ...
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 15:09:28 GMT

Srik wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> I built a kernel and root fs using a base RedHat 6.2 install.
> I have copied pretty much all of /etc into my
> root fs.  I am not using shadow passwords.  Whenever
> I boot from the kernel I built, it boots perfectly
> all the way upto the login prompt.  But then even root
> is not allowed to login and I get something like the following
> message:
> 
> PAM_pwdb( ): check pass; user unknown
> login( ):  Login failed from NULL user not known to the underlying
> authentication
> module.
> 
> When I boot from my orignal HD install of 6.2, this
> problem never occurs.  I tried playing around with the
> files in /etc/pam.d/  (login, other, passwd etc.) but cannot
> make it work.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> -Srikanth

Can you boot to single user mode and try changing your passwords there? 
Also, I highly recommend using shadowed passwords.

- Scott
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