Linux-Setup Digest #233, Volume #19 Mon, 24 Jul 00 09:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Just Getting Serious (Gene Montgomery)
Re: Printing from RH62 to NT printer (Charly le Transalpien)
Re: Cannot install Linux, any help appreciated ("David ..")
Win2000 and Linux setup (Juergen Neuhoff)
Mail server ("stephen ingle")
Re: apache_server config ("Simon")
Re: Change boot parameters LILO (Stanislaw Flatto)
Problem with netowrking on SuSe 6.4 ("Gerhard W. Gruber")
Re: Removing KDE Desktop Icons - Template & Autostart ("Richard Finder")
Re: Printer Setup ("John G. Sandell")
Re: Problem with netowrking on SuSe 6.4 ("John G. Sandell")
Re: Modem Queston (Rob Clark)
Re: Newbie IPCHAINS quest (Raymond Doetjes)
RH6.2 routing funnies ("Richard Copeman")
Re: epson printer (Frank Hahn)
Re: Newbie Question: ATI All in wonder Card ? (Jonathan Ashbrook)
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From: Gene Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just Getting Serious
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:56:46 GMT
Kenneth Downs wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I've been playing with Linux for a year or so, but have never really
> gotten past installing it, doing ls -l, and so forth.
>
> Now I'd like to get serious, and I have a few questions. My first goal,
> on which I'm willing to spend as much time as it takes, is to make a
> Linux box that can be my "Household ISP." I'd like it have a web
> server, a mail server and an FTP server, and I'd like to point the
> domain name I've registered to this box. I'd like Network Address
> Translation so that the ADSL line can be shared (right now I'm using
> Sygate 3.1 on an NT workstation to do that). For file sharing, I'm
> using an NT server, and can continue to do so indefinitely, as what I've
> read suggests that attaching to Linux shares from a Windows box is
> klunky at best.
>
> So, Question 1. I have Red Hat 5.2. Can I do it with this? Or do I
> need to get 6.2?
>
> Question 2. If I put a 2Gig FAT partition on the target box to start
> with, can I download images and install from that partition?
>
> TIA,
> Ken Downs
I have a three linux, one windoze98 box configuration. One of the
linux boxes is my firewall, which is netmax (chosen because I
was too lazy to learn about nat, et al at the time), connected to
my DSL modem. The firewall box has two nics, one running at
10 MHz for the DSL modem and one running at the 100 MHz of my hub
and the other boxes. With this configuration, the three "workstations"
are able to work totally independently through the single firewall
box. I can run a copy of netscape in each of the three boxes at
once, and surf the web quite nicely. I submit that this is
a pretty good configuration.
I definitely recommend using RH6.2 (or later if they hit the street
very soon with 6.3 or 7.0 or whatever, since there are a lot of
bugs they are currently fixing.) 5.2 is really obsolete now.
For the paltry amount of around $39.95, I purchased RH6.2. I
figure the book that came with, and the limited web-oriented
tech support makes it worth that small expense - about one
month's fee for your ADSL line/ISP. The RH62 low end box
comes with a docs cdrom, which is cool.
WRT Question 2., If I understand it correctly, you are asking
if 2 Gig is big enough, and if FAT is an okay partition type for
downloading the latest RH distro image for install. I think
the answer to the first part is yes - a complete RH basic
OS, including X and all will fit in under 2 gigs. The other
part is more problematical. I think you might be better off
just obtaining the RH6.2 cdrom, and installing directly from that.
If you have a modern BIOS, you can set it to boot from cdrom,
and you don't need to download a big pile of stuff and try a
network install. With a high speed CDROM drive (~50x), you
should make very quick work of an install from cdrom (say
under an hour). I venture to say you will take longer than
that to download and mess around with the file set after you
do that. Also, if you are thinking of installing across
your home LAN, I think you will find the cdrom approach more
amenable to that.
Good Luck,
Gene Montgomery
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From: Charly le Transalpien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printing from RH62 to NT printer
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:17:45 +0200
NT/2000 has a LP deamon like (see in the available network services on
NT/2K)... Why not install it and then use standard Linux printing services ?
Charly
Wolf R�per a �crit :
> And now: the same for SuSE Linux, please!
>
> > > frankr wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all...has anyone managed to get rh62 to print to an nt 4 server
> > > > print queue? If so, how was the feat accomplished?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes. The easiest way is to
> > >
> > > 1) run printtool on RH6.2
> > > 2) Select SMB/Windows 95/... printer
> > > 3) Tell it the Hostname of the Server (Name as it would appear in a
> > > network neighborhood)
> > > 3a) You don't need IP number
> > > 4) Tell it the Printer Name (as it would appear if you opened the
> > server
> > > in a network neighborhood)
> > > 5) Tell it the Workgroup
> > > 6) Select the appropriate filter
> > >
> > > That should do it. If the printer on the server is set up to be
> > > accessible by Everyone, then you don't need to provide User or
> > Password.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark Bratcher
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > Escape from Microsoft's proprietary tentacles: use Linux!
> > >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remove ".no.spam" to mail me. / Supprimer ".no.spam" pour m'envoyer des
mails.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Cannot install Linux, any help appreciated
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 03:29:46 -0500
Robert Schumacher wrote:
>
>
> So, I'm still at square one. Is running Linux as much of an uphill battle
> as installing it?
There is a steap learning curve but well worth it once you get it
installed and start to understand it some. Don't give up the first time
I tried it it took me a while also and I ended up installing Slackware
instead but that has been a couple of years ago.
By chance did you try using the drivers disk? I don't know that that is
the answer, just an idea. It should be in the /images/drivers directory
and will be named gdth-drivers.img or gdth.img or something like that.
Just an idea. Also another idea would be to try the new boot.img which
is available in the updates directory at RedHat's FTP site.
Just a couple ideas.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: Juergen Neuhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Win2000 and Linux setup
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:05:11 +0100
Hi,
Is it possible to set up Linux (Redhat 6.2) on a machine which
has pre-installed Windows 2000? Are there any pitfalls I need to
know before installation?
Right now there are 2 partitions:
c: NTFS bootable Windows 2000 2 GBytes
d: NTFS data Windows 2000 10 GBytes
There is also another 8 GBytes free hard disk space after the NTFS
partitions.
There is no Partition Magic pre-installed, we were thinking about
using LILO as a boot manager, if possible.
J.Neuhoff
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From: "stephen ingle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mail server
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:06:41 +0100
Hi
I'm trying to set up a Linux box to act as the in-house mail server for our
company. We have 2 sites, linked by lease line.
First site is running NT network; 2nd site is running Netware <vbg>.
My idea is to set up sendmail & fetchmail.
Any tips or hints? Any definite _Dont's_ ?
TIA
--
Stephen Ingle
IT Manager
Mastex Coatings Ltd
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From: "Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: apache_server config
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:42:56 +0100
Have a look in /etc/httpd/conf and edit httpd.conf there should be a
line in there for html access that you will need to change to alow.. can't
remember exactly where the line is , but the file as standard is well
commented..
Simon
"Tom Jaeger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8l88dv$gso$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Please help I have the same issue but cant find the resolution anywhere.
> Does anyone have the fix???
> Thanks
> Tom Jaeger
>
> Tom G. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8l3b14$30g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > >From windows Pc i am unable to connect to Apache web server ,it is
not
> > > >even showing "It worked".
> >
> > Simon,
> > Take a look at this web site. I am pretty new at this Linux stuff
myself
> > and have been playing around with this stuff at work. (Nice to have
lots
> of
> > toys to learn on and get paid to do it!).
> >
> > http://www.maximumlinux.com/howtos/howto/2000_04_15/apache.html
> >
> > I followed it step by step and connected to it and it worked! It was
just
> > on our internal intranet, but that is what I needed to do.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Tom
> > - Another newbie!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Change boot parameters LILO
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:46:41 +0000
Ken Crofts wrote:
> I tried changing LILO to that described below, and even made Winders default
> but it wouldn't boot into Windows. When I booted off a Window 95s floppy
> into DOS and ran Fdisk, it shows the first partition as a non-dos partition
> (ie my original Win 95 installation) Is there any hope of restoring this by
> changing location of LILO or is my Win95 installation history?
>
> Ken
Hi tourist in Linux-land.
After rewriting lilo.conf and saving it run as root
/sbin/lilo -C /etc/lilo.conf #capital C
meaning "Please Lilo install yourself in MBR with the new parameters as writen
in directory /etc file lilo.conf."
It should do it - does always for me.
Have fun.
Stanislaw.
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:24:10 +0200
From: "Gerhard W. Gruber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Problem with netowrking on SuSe 6.4
I apologize for crossposting, but I'm not sure wether this question is a
setup probpem, or a networking problem, so I hope you don't mind me
posting it to both groups. Thank you.
I have several computers. One is running Linux Suse 5.x and acts as an
internet gateway servicing the isdn adapter while the other computers
are normal clients that use this server with masquerading activated.
Running Windows98 works fine and I cann acceess the internet as expected
through the server, so the network card is working fine. Now I installed
Suse 6.4 and networking doesn't work. I tried it with three different
networkcards and all exhibit the same behaviour. They are recognized by
linux (the driver identifies them and installs) but when I try to access
any remote computer I don't get any responses. When I do a ping on the
ip of my eth0 (i.e. 192.168.1.1) I get the response I expect from a
working card, so I think that the card really works. BUt I can't reach
any other computer so I think that it might have to do with routing or
some such. I already installed Linux with Suse distribution 5.x and
there I don't have this problem with the same network cards. I could get
them up and running with the server acting as gateway without any
problems. Since I don't have much experience with network configuration
I'm at a loss how to tackle it.
I tried to install this distribution on four different computers and it
only worked on one out of the box. I also compared the routing table and
other information from this working set but I don't see any differences.
I hope somebody could help me out with this. Thank you.
--
Bye,
Gerhard
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From: "Richard Finder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Removing KDE Desktop Icons - Template & Autostart
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:28:00 GMT
Rob Blomquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[snip]
> >> Is there a simple way to get rid of these two icon's? I have no need
> >> for them, and they're starting to annoy me.....
> >I would suggest that you do not delete them,but move them to some other
> >place.Open any one of the icons by clicking it,go up one level,and either
> >delete or move them to another directory,such as Trash.You can do the
same
> >by the command line.The icons are in your $HOME /Desktop directory.ZBy
> >moving them to some other directory,they are not visible.
>
> Yes, but will they work that way? Strangely enough, I did just that move
15
> minutes ago, and I have wondered if things will work right with them not
on my
> desktop, but in my home directory.
>
> Rob
I haven't had any problems with mine since I moved them. I got tired of
them as well and moved them several months ago...
HTH
Rich F.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "John G. Sandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printer Setup
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:36:00 GMT
John Tankersley wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> My name is John Tankersley [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am seeking some help with
> setup of my printer. I have a HP Laserjet 4000. Here is my specific
> problem. I have SuSE 6.4 installed. I can't get my printer to print out
> under Linux. I can get it to print out under Windows 98.
> Here is a listing from a lprsetup command.
> SuSE APSfilter setup found these entries:
> fax device=/dev/null
> ###PS_1200pi letter mono 1200 ###
It might help if you send your /etc/printcap file. Also the output of
lsmod - are you loading the parallel port modules? Is this a stock SuSE
kernel or did you recompile your kernel? Printing won't work if the
parallel port code isn't compiled into the kernel or compiled as
modules. Unless the printer hasits own network address - does it? If
it's a networked printer, can you ping it? If it's networked and you can
ping it, what device does /etc/printcap have for it, lp0? Is it listed
in /etc/hosts?
More info would help. You shouldn't have a problem with printing under
SuSE 6.4.
John Sandell
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From: "John G. Sandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Problem with netowrking on SuSe 6.4
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:38:49 GMT
"Gerhard W. Gruber" wrote:
>
> I apologize for crossposting, but I'm not sure wether this question is a
> setup probpem, or a networking problem, so I hope you don't mind me
> posting it to both groups. Thank you.
>
> I have several computers. One is running Linux Suse 5.x and acts as an
> internet gateway servicing the isdn adapter while the other computers
> are normal clients that use this server with masquerading activated.
>
> Running Windows98 works fine and I cann acceess the internet as expected
> through the server, so the network card is working fine. Now I installed
> Suse 6.4 and networking doesn't work. I tried it with three different
> networkcards and all exhibit the same behaviour. They are recognized by
> linux (the driver identifies them and installs) but when I try to access
What is the output of
ifconfig eth0
on the problem machine?
John Sandell
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Subject: Re: Modem Queston
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:32:05 GMT
In article <SgKe5.697$cK2.23045@sjc-read>,
ThomE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does anyone know where to get a cheap, less than $50, dial up modem that
>isn't a winmodem? I want to play around with Linux but it isn't going to be
>my main system as of now so I don't want to put a great deal of money into
>it. The modem doesn't even need to be a 56k, a 33.6k would do just fine as
>the speed I get now is never over 28.8k on a 56k winmodem I have now. Also
>it can be either internal or external.
Try this site:
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modems
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: Newbie IPCHAINS quest
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:38:28 +0200
Hi Trend,
A 486DX2 66MHz will suffice (Cisco's often use 486SX's and they can handle
routing NAT and access-lists also). The only thing that will consume memory is
masquerading (NAT) because it should keep a table with every connection, source
destination portnumber and some other related stuff.
You should approx. use this rule of thumb, for every NAT/Masq user about 100kB
of memory.
So you can use practically any system (a 486DX will give you some more room)
but keep track of the memory usage. (It can become alot when a lot of people
browse at the same time). 350x0.1M=35MB of memory when the all start surfing at
the same time.
Raymond
Trent Cook schreef:
> What do you mean by, "more power is dangerous for attacks?"
>
> I would like to use masq. Have all internal clients with "fake" ips. Run
> it on a linux box with ipchains to do it all.
>
> Is this not a good solution?
>
> Thanks guys.
>
> Trent
>
> "Leonard Lin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Aurelien Marchand wrote:
> > >
> > > >Can anyone tell me how many users a linux box with IPCHAINS can handle
> > > >without bogging down too much?
> > > >
> > > >We have about 350 clients.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > 350 Clients: I suggest using a good i486 and a switch.
> > > I guess even a small-class pentium would make it: Pentium 100 w/ 128Mb
> Ram.
> > > Of course, a linux-based OS. :)
> > >
> > > Salut
> > > Aurelien
> >
> > I agree with you!
> > More power is just dangerous for attacks.
> > But if there is no servers/proxies installed on that engine I don't
> > think that
> > 128 Mb is necessary.
> >
> > sincerely
> >
> > Leo
> >
> > --
> > Leonard Lin
> > M�llerwis 21
> > CH - 8606 Greifensee
> > Switzerland
> >
> > Phone: +41 (0)1 941 40 53
> > Work: +41 (0)1 430 54 50
> > mobile: +41 (0)79 416 01 07
> >
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Richard Copeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH6.2 routing funnies
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 13:19:31 +0100
Hi,
I just installed RH6.2 on my PC and I have it configured to boot stright
into X Windows (Init Level 5? ).
I have two networks sharing the same cable here. 192.168.42.xxx and
194.159.31.24x. My machine is configured to use eth0 on IP address
194.159.31.242 and it can ping and communicate with the other 194...
machines OK.
To get to the 192... machines I have to manually configure the routing
stuff. So, as root I enter:
/sbin/route add -net 192.168.42.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0
Our Internet gateway is sitting on 192.168.42.1 and to get to this I have to
manually enter:
/sbin/route add default gw 192.168.42.1 eth0
How do I setup my system so that it does this at boot time?
TIA,
Richard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: epson printer
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:21:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:24:51 GMT, H Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, iam trying to setup an epson photo 700 in caldera 2.2 with
>ghostscript 5.10, i have read and created a filter file as per
>instructions on the caldera support pages ( although there is no
>mention of the photo printer only the stylus colors). The upp line in
>my filter is for a epson stylus color 600 ( stc600pl ) but all i seem
>to be able to print is the underlying code, eg operand stack-_k false
>%interp_exit runexec2 nostring value oparray_pop etc, can anyone
>tell me if its possible to use this printer under linux and if so how
>to go about it? should i be trying to configure it as an epson stylus
>color? or something other.
>
These look to me like error messages from ghostscript itself. There
is probably something wrong with the syntax of your filter command.
Try using ghostscript directly from the command line to generate the
converted file that you want to print so that it ends up on your hard
drive. Then use the "cat" command to send it directly to your printer.
--
Frank Hahn
Universe, n.:
The problem.
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From: Jonathan Ashbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Question: ATI All in wonder Card ?
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:54:49 -0400
I just installed RH 6.2 this weekend with a AIW 128 AGP card with no problems.
The default resolution wasn't great, but Xconfigurator fixed that problem. If
you have < 6.2, I can't guarantee things. I think that XFree86 3.3.6 is the
first version to support the 128 chipset to any useful degree.
PS. I haven't tried anything with video capture yet. I mainly just wanted it
to work for display in X.
==================================================
Jonathan Ashbrook
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IBM Microelectronics
ThomE wrote:
> I got really good help with my question about installation on a very old
> laptop and determined that it wasn't that good of an idea so I want to try
> Linux on my main system. Before I put down the cash on a new modem, I have
> a winmodem as of this date, I wanted to know if there was anywhere online or
> if anyone knows if the ATI All in Wonder 128 16meg video card is supported
> in X Windows? I'm doing this for the hell of it in my spare time this
> summer and I don't want to spend the money and find out some things aren't
> supported or will require a great deal of work to fix.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Thome
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