Linux-Setup Digest #254, Volume #19 Thu, 27 Jul 00 09:13:15 EDT
Contents:
Re: Install Linux from floppy ("David ..")
Re: Large IDE drive and dualboot (JASON SNYDER)
Re: Large IDE drive and dualboot (JASON SNYDER)
back-up mail server ("Iris C. Ting")
HD formating problem ("David")
Re: root and mail (Villy Kruse)
building a kernel/inspiron 7500 (Peter Bismuti)
Re: !! Gnome Questions !! (Miguel Rodriguez Penabad)
Re: back-up mail server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Expanding partitions. (John Thompson)
ftp & telnet (vururu)
viedio card driver. (Saurabh)
No hardware support for voodoo3/mesa 3D (Hamel Gilles)
Re: Install Linux from floppy (Kevin Croxen)
Re: How to Config For Non-Root to start ppp-on script (Keith McGaughran)
Re: Modem Installation before or after Linux install? (Keith Marshall)
Re: fdisk /mrb (arbu)
Anybody willing to help out with a netbooted kickstart ? (arbu)
Re: Win 95 wont come up after installing Linux RH 6.2 (Keith Marshall)
Re: RAID ? (Fantod)
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install Linux from floppy
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 01:39:34 -0500
Daniel wrote:
>
> so, where can I get the diskette version of Slackware
> instead of the cd?
You will need to do some reading.
http://www.slackware.com/install/
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From: JASON SNYDER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Large IDE drive and dualboot
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 07:04:19 GMT
I have never hear of Mandrake 6.5. I have 6.1 running on one machine and 7.1
running on my other two (one being dual boot win98 and Linux). Mandrake 7.1
comes with a boot loader (grub) that is not limited by the 1024 limit. On my
dual boot Win98/Linux system I have a 17.2 Gig maxtor drive attached to the
Integrated Ultra66 controller on the motherboard (Tyan Trinity S1598) with the
first 10G dedicated to Win98 and the last 6G or so dedicated to linux. I have
55G is on my other Linux box spread across a 10G (system, swap, and image drive)
and 45G (data) drive. Cylinder limitations have not been a concern yet with
Mandrake 7.1. (I ran into cylinder limitations on older distros of Mandrake
though.)
There are a couple of things that you can do (like read the Large-Disk-HOWTO).
I would recommend not using win98's fdisk more than necessary for one. Also,
you can make a small boot (/boot) partition at the beginning of your disk (like
8~20 megs) for linux without upsetting win98. Just be carefull to not put your
Linux partitions in a dos extended partition or windows will reformat them
without prompting. I've lost Linux partitions this way and one of my friends
lost all traces of his Linux system this way except for a few extra partitions
that showed up in windows as empty windows drives. (I recently saw a HOWTO that
goes over recovering Linux partitions after Windows reformats your partitions
and claims them as its own.)
Ron wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I've been trying to install a dual boot Win98/Linux system. And gettin
> really confused and frustrated. Basically my goals are to create a dual boot
> system using lilo as my loader. I have a 15G Maxtor Harddrive and I'd like
> to use half the drive for my Windows OS and half the drive for my Linux OS.
> The problem I'm having seems to revolve around the 1024 cylinder limitation
> of the loader and boot drive of Linux. (I've got a Mandrake 6.5 distro). The
> manuals mention the limitiation as an aftert thought and provide no
> direction to overcome it.
>
> I've determined that I have to put Windows on the front of my primary drive
> as I see no way of reserving space or making a 'hole' in the partition table
> with the DOS version of fdisk. My problem is that my HD is being recocgnized
> by disk druid as having 29,000+ cylinders so this limits me to ~528MB for my
> windows installation.
>
> My BIOS recognizes the whole drive.
>
> What gives??
>
> any sugestions??
>
> Ron
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From: JASON SNYDER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Large IDE drive and dualboot
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 07:08:51 GMT
Something else that crossed my mind is if you are seeing the number of cylinders
that you claim, you might want to make sure that your BIOS is doing an LBA
translation on the drive. From what you described, it didn't sound like the LBA
translation mechanism was working properly or wasn't turned on.
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From: "Iris C. Ting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: back-up mail server
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 15:20:28 +0800
Hi there,
As with other newbies, I would like to ask for some advice as to what is the
suitable way of making a back-up mail server.
We wanted to have a back-up mail server so in cases where the primary mail
server went down (hardware failure or some other problems), we can just copy
the /var/spool/mail/ directory to the other mail server, turn it on and
everything would be as normal as possible.
Thanks.
Iris
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From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HD formating problem
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:25:24 +0200
Hi,
I'm an absolute beginner in Linux (and writting english... as you see).
I have been trying to install RedHat 6.1 in an AMD 400 Mhz 64Mb system with
2 HD, one 6Gb HD to W98 (master) and another 850Mb HD (slave) which should
be completely devoted to my Linux installation. The install program
recognize 850Mb but is only capable to allocate 533Mb to / partition and 16
Mb to the swap. Once installed (the installation sometimes stop when
formating /, and I had to reinice two times (?) ), the system works fine but
there is no space to install any programs... What is wrong?
Another question is that I have installed a poor resolution (KDE) and I
would like to display 800x600 with 16 bits colour depth at least. What is
the file controling the display resolution. Can I change the display from
any window utility (as in W98).
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: root and mail
Date: 27 Jul 2000 08:08:08 GMT
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:26:59 -0400, jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When stuff gets done on my system such as job notification from CRON
>that the job was completed, I get an email to root. I have cron jobs
>that run every hour, so after a day I get around 50 emails that I delete
>by hand. How can I surpress certian system emails such as CRON job
>emails? Thanks
For cronjobs you can arrange for the programs to put their output
somewhere else
1 1 1 1 1 /usr/local/bin/magiccronjob > /var/tmp/crouout 2>&1
If you don't redirect stadnard output and standard error, and if
the program generate some output, this output will show up in
a mail message. If the program does not produce any output
then you won't get any mail message either.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: building a kernel/inspiron 7500
Date: 27 Jul 2000 08:10:17 GMT
I'm trying to build a Kernel so I can have sound on my Dell Inspiron 7500,
what a nightmare! This time the 'make modules' has errors in it. Also,
the how-to says to pick a modutils patch with the same version as the
kernel, but I don't see any 2.2.16 patches on the ftp.kernle.org site!
There must be an easier way!!
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miguel Rodriguez Penabad)
Subject: Re: !! Gnome Questions !!
Date: 27 Jul 2000 10:44:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rich Rudnick wrote:
>In article <CYCf5.43758$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steve Buxton"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have four questions:
>>
[...]
>> 3. How do I adjust screen resolution (size)?
>>
>Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (if enabled, otherwise reconfigure X ;)
>
OOOooops... that kills the server. I guess you meant
ctrl-alt+<keypad+> and ctrl-alt-<keypad->
if you have X configurede for several resolutions
Regards,
Miguel
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Laboratorio de Bases de Datos http://emilia.dc.fi.udc.es/labBD
Facultade de Inform�tica Universidade da Coru�a (Spain)
Debian 2.1 [2.2.13] Usuario Linux 124962
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: back-up mail server
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 09:30:08 GMT
Iris C. Ting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
> As with other newbies, I would like to ask for some advice as to what is the
> suitable way of making a back-up mail server.
> We wanted to have a back-up mail server so in cases where the primary mail
> server went down (hardware failure or some other problems), we can just copy
> the /var/spool/mail/ directory to the other mail server, turn it on and
> everything would be as normal as possible.
You can simply add secondary mail server(s) into your domain configuration
file with lower priority, and it'll preserve you in case of primary server
fail.
Sergiusz
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Expanding partitions.
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 20:52:55 -0500
"Wayne E. Harlan" wrote:
> In article <8lj0bi$p56$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Many of the partitions on my hard drive are quite full at the moment, though I
> > have a lot of unpartitioned space at the end of the drive. Is there a way to
> > 'widen' the existing partitions so they take up more space? I know I can mount
> > further subdirectories like '/var/log' and so on to save space, but I'd prefer
> > not to do this as I don't to have a horribly complicated partition table.
> > Also, is there any good documentation for fdisk available? Thanks, Chris
> You can use Partition Magic to do this but it requires an MS operating system
> somewhere on your hard drive to run it from. I have used it with no trouble.
No, it doesn't. Since v4 at least, PowerQuest has included
bootable a DR-DOS diskette image from which you can run the DOS
version of Partition Magic. No MS operating system is needed on
the HD or elsewhere.
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Subject: ftp & telnet
From: vururu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 03:10:55 -0700
Hello all,
I just installed linux mandrake 7.1 on my box, it seems
correctly connected to the network...
However, I don't have ftp and telnet services...
I am afraid that these services was not intalled ...
How could I be sure that these services were not installed?
What are the deamons to install for getting ftp and telnet
services?
I am real newbie.
Look for the easiest way to make these installations...
Thanks a lot for your help...
vuru
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From: Saurabh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: viedio card driver.
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 11:30:03 GMT
Hello
I have SiS 6215C video card which is not supported by Red Hat linux . Red
Hat linux reqiures
driver for this video card. I couldn't find it on SiS website. If anybody
has it please send it to
me. My email is is [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can i use other drivers avialble for linux for my video card ?
Saurabh.
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From: Hamel Gilles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 3dfx.glide.linux,comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: No hardware support for voodoo3/mesa 3D
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:46:56 +0200
Hello,
I have installed suse 6.4.
My graphic card is a 3DFX Voodoo 3 3000.
My 2D X server v. 3.3.6 works fine, but the 3D acceleration (no DRI
support) via mesa v3 library doesn't work.
When i make tests with glut demos or xlock-mesa, the variable
MESA_GLX_FX exported and set to "fullscreen" has no effects. However,
kmod loads the 3dfx module and i have no error.
I have installed all the required packages :
mesa3dfx, dev3dfx, glidesdk and glide_v3
I have inspected my configuration. I have found some mismatch :
. The /etc/XF86Config file contains a line to load glx.so module but
this package is not installed.
. The deps in rpm database are invalid for mesa3dfx package. It requires
glide_vg or glide_vr packages. These two packages are not compatible
with glide_v3 packages, the driver for voodoo 3.
The www.mesa3d.org site include the voodoo3 in the list of hardware
supported by mesa but the Mesa v
oodoo driver home page
(http://www-hmw.caribel.pisa.it/fxmesa/index.shtml) does not.
Thank you for your help.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Croxen)
Subject: Re: Install Linux from floppy
Date: 27 Jul 2000 11:48:29 GMT
Note that even Slack has given up trying to fit anything
but the basic series on floppy anymore. That means A (for
the kernel and basic text-mode system) AP (for basic text mode
utilities), and N (for text-mode networking). When these are
installed they estimate your system should be able to download
the remaining large packages and series and install them
directly from your hard disk. Even the basic install described
above will run somewhere between 30-50 floppies.
You don't buy Slack on diskette, you'll need to build it
yourself. The easiest online archives to build the boot disk,
root disk, and basic series from are sunsite.unc.edu and
www.freesoftware.com Or build the floppy set on someone
else's machine from the CD. www.cheapbytes.com still has
older slack CD's (3.5 and 4.0) for the hard-to-beat price
of $0.00 (plus $5.00 postage) Or the current version 7.1
(ought to be called 4.2, but they succumbed to version inflation)
for $3.99.
--Kevin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David .. wrote:
>Daniel wrote:
>>
>> so, where can I get the diskette version of Slackware
>> instead of the cd?
>
>You will need to do some reading.
>
>http://www.slackware.com/install/
>
>--
>Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
>Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
>ID # 123538
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:19:59 +1000
From: Keith McGaughran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to Config For Non-Root to start ppp-on script
"Phillip J. Allen" wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have gotten my intenet connection working fine as root. But as soon
> as I am logged on as a normal user I cannot activate the ppp-on script.
> How do I configure RH6.2 to allow a normal user to access the internet
> (by the way this computer is just a laptop).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phillip J. Allen
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Phillip
su to root
run control-panel
select network configurator
highlight ppp0
click edit
in hardware section make sure you check "allow any user to (de)activate interface"
save your way back out
worked for me
hope this helps
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Sydney Australia
The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.
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From: Keith Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem Installation before or after Linux install?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:33:52 +1000
Install Linux now if you want.
It makes little difference.
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 06:06:25 GMT, "ThomE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I took some of the advise I got with the other modem question and am
>currently biding on a non winmodem on ebay that looks good. I'm just
>getting impatient waiting to get rid of winblows and want to know if it is
>worth waiting till I get the modem so I can have it when I first install
>Linux from scratch or if it is any more difficult to add a modem after you
>have installed Linux? From other things I've read and heard it sounds as if
>it would be easier to install the modem with the initial install rather than
>trying to configure it later on but I'm a newbie so I don't know which is
>better.
>
>Thanks again,
>
>Thome
>
>
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From: arbu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fdisk /mrb
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:42:56 +0100
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try /mbr for Master Boot Record
Keith Marshall wrote:
> This dos fdisk command,
> comes up a fair bit in this group so I though I'd ask this.
>
> I wanted to get rid of both lilo and linux on a particular drive.
>
> So I did lilo -u
> (this didn't work because of a difference in time stamps?)
>
> mm I've reinstalled and reinstalled linux over the top of itself many
> times without uninstalling lilo first.
>
> So I tried fdisk /mrb (via a dos bootdisk) and dos gave me :
> invalid switch - /mrb
>
> whats the deal with this?
> do I need a newer version of dos fdisk?
>
> Keith
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try /mbr for Master Boot Record
<p>Keith Marshall wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>This dos fdisk command,
<br>comes up a fair bit in this group so I though I'd ask this.
<p>I wanted to get rid of both lilo and linux on a particular drive.
<p>So I did lilo -u
<br>(this didn't work because of a difference in time stamps?)
<p>mm I've reinstalled and reinstalled linux over the top of itself many
<br>times without uninstalling lilo first.
<p>So I tried fdisk /mrb (via a dos bootdisk) and dos gave me :
<br>invalid switch - /mrb
<p>whats the deal with this?
<br>do I need a newer version of dos fdisk?
<p>Keith</blockquote>
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From: arbu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anybody willing to help out with a netbooted kickstart ?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:46:49 +0100
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Just a quicky,
Not alloud to touch the boxes being installed, ks.cfg is on a network
share and I have to do all manner of things, anyone fancy a chat ?
yours ahead alan
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Just a quicky,
<p>Not alloud to touch the boxes being installed, ks.cfg is on a network
share and I have to do all manner of things, anyone fancy a chat ?
<p>yours ahead alan
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From: Keith Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win 95 wont come up after installing Linux RH 6.2
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:48:27 +1000
Try playing around with windows (ie booting in safe mode etc).
If you still can't get it to respond your best bet is to start again.
Uninstall lilo. (lilo -u, or is that lilo -U - do "man lilo").
When you reboot you should able able to go staight into windows.
If not do "fdisk /mbr" from a windows bootdisk.
If windows still doesn't work, who knows whats wrong with it? You'll
probably have to do a reinstall.
Then reinstall Red Hat. Do a custom install, otherwise you don't know
what its doing. You don't have to install lilo there are other ways to
boot linux (bootdisk, loadlin).
Of course you should try to avoid having to do this (two OS
reinstalls) but if you can't do anything else I guess its what you
have to do.
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 16:09:11 -0700, shashinux
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I installed RH Linux 6.2 on my win 95 machine on a seperate
>external drive.
>
>The original drive is a 1.2Gig HD and has windows 95 on it.
>
>The seperate drive is a 30G Western Digital drive.
>After installing Linux on this new HD , ( I chose workstation
>class of installation - this automatically configures the
>Lilo) windows 95 wont start up correctly.
>
>
>Now after installing Linux and a reboot - comes up with
>boot: and I have 2 choices
>dos and linux.
>
>If I chose linux - Linux is easily accessible.But If I chose
>dos then windows 95 startup window comes up,
>and all the application on the window panel show up.
>
>But the mouse and the keyboard are inactive.
>
>I cannot track any application/select an application with my
>mouse on this windows 95 main panel!!!!!!
>
>The kybrd seems to be stuck too.
>
>I tried rebooting and shutting off the PC to start windows
>the way it was before - but no help.
>
>I configured while installing linux that the mouse is a 2 button
>PS/2 mouse and the Keyboard as a 101-generic.
>
>Did I miss something ?
>
>Any help is appreciated.
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: RAID ?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fantod)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:51:18 GMT
[Jeff Tsui]:
>Any People know how to set RAID in Linux ? I am New of it .
http://linas.org/linux/raid.html
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