Linux-Setup Digest #254, Volume #20 Tue, 19 Dec 00 19:13:12 EST
Contents:
ftp install solution ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help!! Partitioning (Chiefy)
PLEASE READ THIS ONE ("IAmGod")
Help with apparent MBR corruption on system disk! (Leland Atkinson)
Re: PLEASE READ THIS ONE (Eggert Ehmke)
UUCP? ("Yavin")
KDE 1.2 resolution (Nacho)
Windows-ME dual boot (Jim Bean)
Re: How to install patch? (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: Glibc-2.2.x install? (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: Help with apparent MBR corruption on system disk!
(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: looking for free isp in usa/texas (mst)
/dev/hda this!!! (jay)
Hello, (Ivan Milos)
Whoops (Ivan Milos)
Re: KDE 1.2 resolution (Noble Pepper)
playing MP3's with linux (R. Gerrits)
Re: winmodem ("Gary L. Dolan")
Re: Hello, I am currently running Corel linux [etc.] (Colin Watson)
Re: /dev/hda this!!! (Colin Watson)
Re: ADSL via serial ports ("Olivier")
java and mozilla ("Olivier")
Re: Help!! Partitioning (srinivas_vanjari)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ftp install solution
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:43:42 GMT
I was having a problem doing an ftp install of RehHat 7.0 on a Dell
dimension. The box has 128MB of RAM, but I got a message something like
HTTP or FTP install requires at least 20MB of system memory.
I've seen this a couple of times. Once, there was a "reserved memory"
setting in the BIOS that fixed the problem. Most recently, I had to
give a boot parameter to the kernel.
For example, at the boot: prompt I typed
linux --append mem=64M
and the ftp install worked fine. I tried mem=128M, but it crashed
before the install started.
Derek
Sent via Deja.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chiefy)
Subject: Re: Help!! Partitioning
Date: 19 Dec 2000 18:51:25 GMT
19 Dec 2000 16:39 UTC, srinivas_vanjari did say to the dudes:
[snip]
>The computer is too fast for me to get into bias. I have tried del, f4
>and f8 which are the common keys that get us into bios. The system is a
Press F1 when you see the HP boot screen to gain access to the BIOS.
F10 (I think!) saves any changes and exits.
HTH (Hope that helps)
--
Chiefy. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Avoid strange women and temporary variables.
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From: "IAmGod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PLEASE READ THIS ONE
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:53:13 -0800
i have been downloading the iso for Linux.. i am at 80% now and by the time
you read this it will probably be done.. (its only 44kbps, so it takes a
couple days) i need to know if when i install this is it going to mess up my
windows... I've been reading alot of the posts and alot of the questions are
how to make a duel boot machine.. cant i just install Linux and edit my
autoexec.bat so that it will prompt me on the OS i want to use.. i just want
to be sure im not going to mess up windows when i install Linux... if
anybody can help me email me back [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks
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From: Leland Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with apparent MBR corruption on system disk!
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:59:46 GMT
Help with apparent MBR corruption on system disk!
My Linux 6.2 system has stopped booting from the hard drive. It works
just fine if I boot from a floppy. I therefore think the MBR of the
hard disk must have become corrupt or pointers to it are missing. I can
cd to /boot and less files there. I have tried "/sbin/lilo -P fix -v"
and it seems to complete with no errors, but I am not sure if this is
writing to the hard drive or the boot floppy.
Can someone please give me advice on how to recover without having to
wipe out the entire system disk?
Thanks,
-Landy
--
Leland Atkinson
Gradient Lens Corporation Phone: 716-235-2620
207 Tremont Street FAX: 716-235-6645
Rochester, NY 14608 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PLEASE READ THIS ONE
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:16:17 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:53:13 -0800, "IAmGod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>i have been downloading the iso for Linux.. i am at 80% now and by the time
>you read this it will probably be done.. (its only 44kbps, so it takes a
>couple days) i need to know if when i install this is it going to mess up my
>windows... I've been reading alot of the posts and alot of the questions are
>how to make a duel boot machine.. cant i just install Linux and edit my
>autoexec.bat so that it will prompt me on the OS i want to use.. i just want
>to be sure im not going to mess up windows when i install Linux... if
>anybody can help me email me back [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks
>
Autoexec.bat will never know about Linux. If you are afraid about your boot
sector, you might try loadlin first (ok, you even could start loadlin from
your autoexec, but I would not prefer this). Loadlin can be installed in a
separate windows directory with a linux kernel image.
The clean way is to use some boot loader. The Linux loader LILO works
perfect and can load both Windows and Linux. There will be people who warn
you to put LILO into the MBR, but it works flawless. If you ever want your
Windows boot sector back, call fdisk /mbr from a DOS boot floppy.
If you have NT, it works the other way: the NT loader can load NT and Linux.
Not sure about Win2000...
Hope this helps ...
Eggert
--
Eggert Ehmke
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Yavin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UUCP?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:42:49 -0700
I know this is a unix to unix copy command, but how would this be used
in a dialup senario? It seems that it is used to give (DHCP) info???
--scott
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From: Nacho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE 1.2 resolution
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:09:10 +0100
How can I change KDE resolution?
Thanks a lot.
--
Nacho S�nchez, Valladolid Espa�a
"Don't Bother To Resist, I'll Beat You. It's Not Your Fault
That You're Always Wrong, The Weak Ones Are There To Justify The Strong"
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From: Jim Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows-ME dual boot
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:13:01 GMT
hi listers,
I have a new Dell machine that runs windows-ME. My previous machine,
trashed sigh, ran windows-98 and RH 6.0 on a second disk, dual booted of
course. The primary disk was FAT16.
I put the second disk into the new machine and tried to re-install
Linux on it. The result of loading LILO into the MBR was an unbootable
system, which would say ME is like NT.
The software guru at RH says that windows-ME is essentially windows-98.
The microsoft website says its a version of windows-2000.
Sooo is there a newer LILO that is safe to put on windows-ME or are the
NT type solutions required? BTW the how-to's are hopelessly out of date
on this.
TIA Jim Bean
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install patch?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:37:13 +0100
On 19 Dec 2000, Terry Porter wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:22:44 +0800, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi,
> > I have a ATA66 controller (HPT 366) build in my main board. To use that
> >controller in linux, I download a patch (if in Windows OS, it's called
> >'driver'). The name of the patch is
> > ide.2.2.16.20000630.patch.bz2
> > Since I am new to Linux, I just donot know how to install such patch.
> >could anyone teach me how to install it? I think the way install this patch
> >can also apply to install VGA card driver, sound driver, right?
You can apply this patch by doing:
cd /path/to/kernel-source
bzip2 -dc /path/to/patch/ide.2.2.16.20000630.patch.bz2 | patch -p1
And now your kernel should be patched fine. Beware that the patch will
work with the vanilla kernel from kernel.org - but probably not with the
distro's kernel-source...
> A patch in Linux refers to a file that contains only the differences
> between an old version of a program, and the new version, of that same
> program. This is done so you dont have to obtain the whole new program
> if you already have the old one.
>
> And patch works this way :-
> 'patch old_program < patch_file'
>
> What you have sounds like a patch to add to a file in your kernel source ?
>
> typing 'man patch' will give you further info.
>
>
--
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Glibc-2.2.x install?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:43:23 +0100
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, John Dixon wrote:
> Does anybody know how to install glibc-2.2 from rpm packages? I get
> about 100 dependency warnings when I try, and I don't want to risk
> switches like --nodeps and --force recklessly. Is there a safe way
> forward?
All program (well almost) depend on glibc. If the version, you are
upgrading from, is not compatible with 2.2, program will no longer work.
So if 'rpm -Uvh' (or 'upgrade' in som graphical utility) gives this
warning, you should be careful.
You could use --nodeps and pray - or you could upgrade all the other
things at the same time.
Or you could do a distribution upgrade from CD, FTP etc.
--
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with apparent MBR corruption on system disk!
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:49:32 +0100
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Leland Atkinson wrote:
> Help with apparent MBR corruption on system disk!
>
> My Linux 6.2 system has stopped booting from the hard drive. It works
> just fine if I boot from a floppy. I therefore think the MBR of the
> hard disk must have become corrupt or pointers to it are missing. I can
> cd to /boot and less files there. I have tried "/sbin/lilo -P fix -v"
> and it seems to complete with no errors, but I am not sure if this is
> writing to the hard drive or the boot floppy.
>
> Can someone please give me advice on how to recover without having to
> wipe out the entire system disk?
'/sbin/lilo' (without '-P fix') did not help?
It has worked before, as I understand it. Now what does it do? The
'LI'+hang trick? 'LI 01 01 01 01 01 [...]'? Just plain nothing? Something
about a CRC / uncompress error?
--
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: mst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: looking for free isp in usa/texas
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:25:42 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just bought a laptop and I'm looking for a free isp that
> I can connect to using linux.
>
> At this point I only need one that has local access #'s for
> Texas: Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, Houston...
>
Feel free to search:
http://freedomlist.com
MST
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From: jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: /dev/hda this!!!
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:35:09 GMT
I have 3 drives. Each of them has about 5 partitions on there.
So in my /etc/fstab I have
/dev/hda1 <more junk here>
/dev/hda2
/dev/hdb5
/dev/hdc3
/dev/hdc5
etc
etc
Without the contents of my /etc/fstab I cannot remember what drive has
which partitions and which number is which? Is there some tool I can
run (Windows or Linux). That will tell me what drives I have, what
partitions each of the drives has, and what is the format type of each
logical drive? Thanks.
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http://www.deja.com/
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From: Ivan Milos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hello,
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:53:11 -0800
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Hello,
I am currently running Corel linux and I am quite happy with it.
However, I have heard about how Corel may dump their distribution in the
near future. In addition, their progress has been slower than Debian.
What I like most about the Corel distribution is the package manager. I
really like how dependencies are handled automatically (through a nice
GUI interface). I tried Red Hat and Mandrake, but their package
managers didn't seem to do this (maybe I just gave up on them too
fast). In addition, they both locked up my system several times. Maybe
recompiling the kernel would have helped this. Anyway, I am thinking
about moving to Debian. However, I was wondering if it is much trouble
getting KDE2 running on Debian. If so, could somebody suggest another
distribution based on Debian.
Thanks,
Ivan Milos
--
"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's
history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this
century. I didn't live in this century."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/15/95
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<html>
Hello,
<p>I am currently running Corel linux and I am quite happy with it.
<br>However, I have heard about how Corel may dump their distribution in
the
<br>near future. In addition, their progress has been slower than
Debian.
<br>What I like most about the Corel distribution is the package manager.
I
<br>really like how dependencies are handled automatically (through a nice
<br>GUI interface). I tried Red Hat and Mandrake, but their package
<br>managers didn't seem to do this (maybe I just gave up on them too
<br>fast). In addition, they both locked up my system several times.
Maybe
<br>recompiling the kernel would have helped this. Anyway, I am thinking
<br>about moving to Debian. However, I was wondering if it is much
trouble
<br>getting KDE2 running on Debian. If so, could somebody suggest
another
<br>distribution based on Debian.
<p>Thanks,
<p>Ivan Milos
<pre>--
"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's
history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this
century. I didn't live in this century."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/15/95</pre>
</html>
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From: Ivan Milos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Whoops
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:54:31 -0800
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Whoops, for some reason my previous message ended up in the subject line
as well.
Ivan Milos
Ivan Milos wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am currently running Corel linux and I am quite happy with it.
> However, I have heard about how Corel may dump their distribution in
> the
> near future. In addition, their progress has been slower than Debian.
>
> What I like most about the Corel distribution is the package manager.
> I
> really like how dependencies are handled automatically (through a nice
>
> GUI interface). I tried Red Hat and Mandrake, but their package
> managers didn't seem to do this (maybe I just gave up on them too
> fast). In addition, they both locked up my system several times.
> Maybe
> recompiling the kernel would have helped this. Anyway, I am thinking
> about moving to Debian. However, I was wondering if it is much
> trouble
> getting KDE2 running on Debian. If so, could somebody suggest another
>
> distribution based on Debian.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ivan Milos
>
> --
> "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's
> history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this
> century. I didn't live in this century."
> ...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/15/95
>
>
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Whoops, for some reason my previous message ended up in the subject line
as well.
<p>Ivan Milos
<p>Ivan Milos wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hello,
<p>I am currently running Corel linux and I am quite happy with it.
<br>However, I have heard about how Corel may dump their distribution in
the
<br>near future. In addition, their progress has been slower than
Debian.
<br>What I like most about the Corel distribution is the package manager.
I
<br>really like how dependencies are handled automatically (through a nice
<br>GUI interface). I tried Red Hat and Mandrake, but their package
<br>managers didn't seem to do this (maybe I just gave up on them too
<br>fast). In addition, they both locked up my system several times.
Maybe
<br>recompiling the kernel would have helped this. Anyway, I am thinking
<br>about moving to Debian. However, I was wondering if it is much
trouble
<br>getting KDE2 running on Debian. If so, could somebody suggest
another
<br>distribution based on Debian.
<p>Thanks,
<p>Ivan Milos
<pre>--
"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's
history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this
century. I didn't live in this century."
...Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/15/95</pre>
</blockquote>
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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE 1.2 resolution
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:51:05 -0600
Nacho wrote:
> How can I change KDE resolution?
> Thanks a lot.
>
You probably want to change your X resolution, use Xconfigurator,
xf86config, XF86Setup or edit XF86Config by hand.
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From: R. Gerrits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: playing MP3's with linux
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:22:33 +0100
Hello
I want to use a old computer to play my MP3's.
What is the minimum requirement to play mp3's with linux, and which
(console)player is the best???
Greetings Richard
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From: "Gary L. Dolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: winmodem
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:30:31 +0600
In article <91kvi5$ore$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Beavis Christ"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You know what's funny, Gary....
>
> ...when I said that SOMEONE would write a winmodem driver, (when they first
> game out, under my old email of [EMAIL PROTECTED]), they all said I was nuts
> and nobody would waste their time on it.
>
>
> It's always nice to feel vindicated.
>
>
> ;-)
>
>
> "Gary L. Dolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:79GZ5.973$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I often see in this newsgroup that when someone asks about using a
> winmodem
>> with linux, he/she is advised it cannot be done, get a real modem, or only
> one
>> type of chipset is usable. Altho it might be smart to get a real modem,
> this
>> advice is not accurate. Let's direct them to www.linmodems.org or to the
>> Linmodem-HOWTO for real information.
Ain't it the truth! I'm just glad to see that the word is getting out. It's
been some time since some of these modems were completely usable.
--
Gary Dolan
Debian GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.4.0-test11
FreeBSD 4.2
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Hello, I am currently running Corel linux [etc.]
Date: 19 Dec 2000 23:50:22 GMT
Ivan Milos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am currently running Corel linux and I am quite happy with it.
>However, I have heard about how Corel may dump their distribution in the
>near future. In addition, their progress has been slower than Debian.
>What I like most about the Corel distribution is the package manager. I
>really like how dependencies are handled automatically (through a nice
>GUI interface). I tried Red Hat and Mandrake, but their package
>managers didn't seem to do this (maybe I just gave up on them too
>fast). In addition, they both locked up my system several times. Maybe
>recompiling the kernel would have helped this. Anyway, I am thinking
>about moving to Debian. However, I was wondering if it is much trouble
>getting KDE2 running on Debian. If so, could somebody suggest another
>distribution based on Debian.
There are Debian packages of KDE2 available for the stable release using
the following line in /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://kde.tdyc.com/debian potato main crypto optional qt1apps
Alternatively, you could try out the new all-singing all-dancing
'testing' distribution, if you have a fast net connection. This is
supposed to be partway between stable and unstable: reasonably new
packages, when it gets going [1], but with any luck very few serious
bugs. You may like it. The apt lines (long lines, too, sorry) are:
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org testing non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free
[1] I say that because some fairly central updates in unstable haven't
made it into testing yet, due primarily to glibc 2.2 not being
buildable on a couple of architectures yet. These include XFree86
4.0.1. I think some attention will be paid to that soon, now that
testing has been rolled out.
You might even be able to 'dselect update; apt-get dist-upgrade' from
Corel to Debian (without even needing to reboot if you don't change the
kernel!), though I've never used any of the Debian-derived distributions
and so haven't tried it. The changes might be complex enough that using
dselect or one of the apt frontends to sort the dependencies out
interactively could be the easiest way.
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Please post in text only, not HTML. Thanks.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Ah, young webmaster ... Java leads to Shockwave. Shockwave leads to
RealAudio, and RealAudio leads to suffering." - Peter da Silva, ASR
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: /dev/hda this!!!
Date: 19 Dec 2000 23:52:30 GMT
jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Without the contents of my /etc/fstab I cannot remember what drive has
>which partitions and which number is which? Is there some tool I can
>run (Windows or Linux). That will tell me what drives I have, what
>partitions each of the drives has, and what is the format type of each
>logical drive? Thanks.
Is 'fdisk -l' on Linux the sort of thing you're looking for?
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Debian, you *peasant*." - http://www.userfriendly.org/
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From: "Olivier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ADSL via serial ports
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 23:54:41 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "ken pile"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Let me know how you are getting on. I'm going to get the same service. Do
you know what sort of modem they put ? I have asked but they couldn't
tell....
> I am about to have ADSL installed via HomeChoice ( UK ISP ). They will
> be connecting their service to my PC via the COM ports. Does anyone have
> any experience of setting this up for Linux ( SuSE 7.0 ). Of course the
> system will come with some lovely CD's for Windoze, and SuSE can't give
> any advice for this kind of connection, although they recommend looking
> at PPPoE, which I presume wont work on a serial port.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> Ken Pile
>
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From: "Olivier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: java and mozilla
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:00:46 +0000
It has proved impossible to download and install the sun jre through my
landline from netscape so I got it from sun. Fine. Now how to I get
Mozilla to know about the jre that I've installed ?
any help most appreciated
Olivier
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From: srinivas_vanjari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help!! Partitioning
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 23:51:31 GMT
Hi,
> > /dev/hda 240 heads, 63 sectors, 2646 cylinders
>
> This is kind of odd. I would expect 255 heads (255 is the maximum nr.
of
> heads)
> Is this value set in your BIOS? The disc should probably be set to LBA
> mode in the BIOS.
I managed to get into bios.(as if that is great!!). The bios shows that
my disk has only 240 cylinders. The primary master is set to auto mode.
I could not find LBA anywhere.
Thanking you,
--
regards,
srinivas_vanjari,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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