Linux-Setup Digest #260, Volume #19              Thu, 27 Jul 00 23:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: How to set hardware time correctly from shell? ("Hello World")
  Re: SCSI Card Upgrade - Boot Error Messages - SuSE 6.4 (sideband)
  Re: Linux and Netgear RT311--????? (brian moore)
  Re: Gnome or KDE (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Gnome or KDE (Christopher Browne)
  LILO, again ("Robp2001")
  Re: Help a naive newbie ("David ..")
  RedHat 6.0 Internet Connection Problem ("Christopher E. Souter")
  Re: fixing MBR to see linux again (post Win2K install...) (Leonard Evens)
  Re: Good Free VCD/DVD Player & Questions about the "mount /cdrom" ("Colin R. Day")
  Re: Help a naive newbie ("Shawn Mann")
  Re: Help a naive newbie (Mongolian Horde)
  Newbie Setup ?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Changing SCSI Cards - Boot Error Messages - SuSE 6.4 (Kevin Adams)
  Re: Help a naive newbie (Zebee Johnstone)

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From: "Hello World" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: How to set hardware time correctly from shell?
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:24:39 +0800

try
rdate -s ip-of-time-server
u can put it in rc.local so it will execute everytime the system starts

fred


"Charlie Zender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ���g��l��
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> It seems like my laptop and desktop Linux machines are constantly
> set to the wrong time (because of multiboot OSs all correcting
> leap day etc.). In order to reset the time I have to go through
> a laborious procedure involving finding a trusted time source and
> executing a command like
>
> /sbin/hwclock --set --date="04/09/00 15:41:00"
>
> Question: Is there a simple, single command line way to reset
> the hardware clock to the NIST time in Linux?
>
> I checked the FAQ but couldn't find it.
>
> Thanks,
> Charlie
> --
> Charlie Zender [EMAIL PROTECTED] (949) 824-2987/FAX-3256, Department of
> Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100



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From: sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI Card Upgrade - Boot Error Messages - SuSE 6.4
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:29:40 -0400

Uh... did you insert the module info into lilo.conf to get the 152X to configure it?

Looks like a LILO configure line to me.

Hope this helps.

-SSB

Kevin Adams wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am using the standard SuSE 6.4 Linux 2.2.14 kernel on a clone with an Intel
> Pentium-II 400 CPU and Intel 440BX chipset.  Nothing (very) fancy.
>
> I recently removed an old Adaptec AHA-1520 SCSI card and replaced it with an
> Adaptec AVA-2906 (PCI SCSI card with an Adaptec AIC-7850 chipset).
>
> I then did the following:
>
>    1.  I modified the file
>
>           /etc/modules.conf
>
>        as per the SuSE Support Database
>
>    2.  I ran the program
>
>           depmod -a
>
>        as per the SuSE Support Database
>
>    3.  I changed the variable
>
>           INITRD_MODULES="aha152x"
>
>        in "/etc/rc.config" to read as
>
>           INITRD_MODULES="aic7xxx"
>
> However, when I boot the system, SuSE Linux fails to recognize the new SCSI
> card.  I have to run "modprobe aic7xxx" manually to get my SCSI devices up and
> running.
>
> In addition, the boot scripts are still looking for my old AHA-1520 SCSI card.
> Here are my boot messages (blank lines inserted for clarity; look for
> "aha152x"):
>
>    .
>    .
>    .
>
> <6>Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
> <4>ide: Assuming 40MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
> idebus=xx
> <4>PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
> <4>PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> <4>    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
> <4>    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
> <4>hda: WDC WD205BA, ATA DISK drive
> <4>hdb: IBM-DPTA-372050, ATA DISK drive
> <4>hdc: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1212, ATAPI CDROM drive
> <4>hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive
> <4>ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> <4>ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
> <6>hda: WDC WD205BA, 19574MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=2495/255/63
> <6>hdb: IBM-DPTA-372050, 19574MB w/1961kB Cache, CHS=2495/255/63
> <4>hdc: ATAPI 32X DVD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache
> <6>Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56
> <6>hdd: 98304kB, 96/64/32 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm
> <5>hdd: The drive reports both 100663296 and 0 bytes as its capacity
> <6>Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
> <6>FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
> <6>LVM version 0.8e  by Heinz Mauelshagen  (4/1/2000)
> <4>lvm -- Driver successfully initialized
> <4>md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
> <4>linear personality registered
> <4>raid0 personality registered
> <4>raid1 personality registered
> <4>raid5 personality registered
> <4>scsi : 0 hosts.
> <4>scsi : detected total.
> <4>Partition check:
> <4> hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 < hda5 >
> <4> hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 hdb7 hdb8 hdb9 >
> <5>RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
> <4>Uncompressing........................done.
> <4>VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
>
> <4>
> <4>aha152x: invalid module argument aha152x=0x340,11,7,1,1,0,100,0
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>       |
>       +------ How do I make this error go away?
>
> <4>VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
> <4>change_root: old root has d_count=1
> <5>Trying to unmount old root ... okay
> <4>Freeing unused kernel memory: 64k freed
> <6>Adding Swap: 136512k swap-space (priority -1)
> <6>Adding Swap: 136512k swap-space (priority -2)
> Kernel logging (ksyslog) stopped.
> Kernel log daemon terminating.
>
>    .
>    .
>    .
>
> What script is still looking for "aha152x"?  Or what configuration file is still
> looking for "aha152x"?  How do I point the script or config file to "aic7xxx"
> instead?
>
> I've searched the manpages, looked through "Running Linux" by O'Reilly (great
> book in general, but short on some things), and read the README in
> "/sbin/init.d" among other things, all to no avail...
>
> Any help much appreciated!  :-)
>
> Thank You,
>
> Kevin Adams
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.networks,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux and Netgear RT311--?????
Date: 28 Jul 2000 01:32:47 GMT

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:20:50 GMT, 
 Julian Cook/Sherab Gyatso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello folks!
> I have a network I am trying to set up and I have wasted SO many hours
> and no results.
> One machine is Windows 98
> The other is a Linux box running Slackware 7
> Both machines are hooked into a Linksys 5 port workgroup hub
> The Router is a Netgear RT311
> 
> This router has been great after some initial difficulty setting it up.
> The Win machine
> works great through it. My problem is setting up Linux and getting Linux
> to see the
> router..
> 
> The IP of the Router is 192.168.0.1
> 
> The Linux box uses a 3Com 509B NIC. The machine recognizes the card ok.
> (Other info, it's a 
> Pentium 75)
> 
> When I type 'netconfig'
> I put in these values .. hostname -->   milarepa
> Domain name --> this is a complete mystery to me. It's a private
> network. What domain name? (I typed 'localnetwork' just for something to
> put in)
> The when given the options of  Static IP, DHCP and loopback I selected
> DHCP
> Then I get the notification that "Your networking software has now been
> configured"
> 
> Now on bootup after this (during startup), I get...
> "Attempting to configure eth0 by contacting a DHCP server"
> The corresponding hub light goes on during this period, the machine
> hangs for about 
> 30seconds and then the light goes out and I get 
> "Activating IPv4 packet forwarding" 
> After logging in, I type in "ifconfig" and the only thing that shows up
> are the "lo" settings.

So do you have a DHCP server on your network?

If you do, why is it not answering?

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:40:18 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when SL News Posting would say:
>In article <8lqfnk$bli$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ishpeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>|> Nothing better than strait windowmaker. :)
>|> 
>
>Sure there is - straight twm - been using it for 10 years[*] and
>have no need for all the desktop clutter, sound, moving menus, 
>themes, etc.  *tvtwm is available to provide a virtual screen 
>larger than the physical screen for those who need such. 

Ah.  Wuss.

What you _want_ is wmx, which gets rid of even _more_ of the clutter...
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
If you add a couple of i's to Microsoft's stock ticker symbol, you get
'misfit'.  This is, of course, not a coincidence.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 01:40:17 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
would say:
>I'm still a bit comfused about this one, but I thought that KDE and
>GNOME were a set of libraries providing nice functions. They often run
>with the ??? and Enlightenment wm respectively, although this is not
>necessary. So can't you just install both sets of libs, choose a wm and
>play with whatever apps you want, be they KDE or GNOME apps?

You are quite correct.

Unfortunately, people get all snarled up in that many of the systems
that install them try to put certain GNOME/KDE components "in charge"
of the X sessions, and apparently the results are, more or less,
"dueling X session configuration."

A pox on all of them for this; the value of them is _not_ in trying
to manage X sessions, but in providing _USEFUL APPLICATIONS_.
-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
If you add a couple of i's to Microsoft's stock ticker symbol, you get
'misfit'.  This is, of course, not a coincidence.

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From: "Robp2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO, again
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:48:49 +0100

could someone help PLEASE !!!!

lilo is set up to auto boot linux after about 10 secs. I go into KLILO to
change this, but when i write to disk, it says LILO died.....

what could I be doing wrong.? any ideas?
+ i cant find out info easy, cos' im in windows at the mo. , (yes i know, i
hate it too.. :-)    )

- i wont re post this again.



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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help a naive newbie
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:47:47 -0500

Shawn Mann wrote:
> 
> 
> If anybody has any recommendations or links to help me get started or wants
> to discourage the poor naive fool from melting his brain, I'll listen to
> everyone that cares to comment or help.

You will still need to install linux first.

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538

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From: "Christopher E. Souter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: RedHat 6.0 Internet Connection Problem
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:05:46 +1000


Hi

I'm running RedHat 6.0 with the GNOME desktop.

As recommended in most Linux installation and user guides I have
read, I have set up a normal user account for myself.

However, I have a problem getting kppp to work when logged in as a
normal user.

I can run kppp without any problem when logged in as root, but
when I log in as a normal user, kppp gives me an error message
something like this:

     Error!
     pppd is not properly installed!
     The pppd binary must be installed
     with the SUID bit set.
     Contact your system administrator.

Then, when I try to set up kppp to dial my ISP, I can't even set
up the modem, regardless of what device I choose.  I get another
error message:

     Sorry, can't open modem.

Therefore, I can't access my ISP unless I log in as root.

Can anyone answer the following questions for me?

1.  A. Why can I access the modem as root, but not as a user?
    B. Can I fix this, and, if yes, how do I do it?

2.  A. How do I install pppd with the SUID bit set?
    B. What is the SUID bit, anyway?

I can't find the answers to these questions in any of the
documentation.  I have looked in sag, nag, lug and install-guide.

If someone could at least tell me where to look for the
information I need, I'll be eternally grateful.

Best regards
Chris Souter
(Sydney, Australia)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: fixing MBR to see linux again (post Win2K install...)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:52:58 -0500

colinr wrote:
> 
> I had RedHat up and running real nice---dual booting between Linux and Win2K
> using LILO as boot manager.
> Then I reinstalled Win2K.  Now it boots directly into Win2K without the
> slightest regard for Linux.

When you installed Linux, it should have given you the option of
creating a boot floppy.   If you have that floppy, just boot from
it and rerun
/sbin/lilo
One warning though.  The boot floppy can seem to take forever
to start booting.  Give it time.

If you didn't create a boot floppy, boot from the installation
floppy or CD and at the boot: prompt enter
vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2
This assumes your root partition is hda2.  If it is something
else, you can't hurt anything by experimenting.   When you have
booted rerun /sbin/lilo as suggested above.


> I assume M$ was nice enough to overwrite my MBR info.
> 
> How can I restore this?  My kernel vmlinuz is on the third partition (I
> believe /dev/hda2)

hda2 would be the second partition.   Since you might have
logical partitions inside an extended partition, it is hard to
say what the actual third partition would be.   It could be
hda3 or hda5 or etc.

> I have access to rawrite, fips, restorrb, etc...  I don't have an existing
> LILO bootdisk.

WHY NOT?  Which version of RedHat were you running?
Next time use mkbootdisk to make one.

> 
> What do I need to do to make things happy again?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Colin

If for some obscure reason you can't boot as I suggested above,
it is possible to do it with a rescue disk.  You can even use
the RH installation media for rescue, but it is a bit tricky.
Get back to us if the above measures fail.


-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Good Free VCD/DVD Player & Questions about the "mount /cdrom"
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:16:35 -0400

Pig wrote:

> Could anyone suggest me a good and free vcd/dvd player?
>
> I am now using the "mpegtv" to play a vcd.
> Once I mount the cdrom, the "/cdrom" must be belongs to the "root"

You have to mount video CD's? That's odd, you don't have
to mount audio CD's.

What file system does a Video CD have?


>
>
> Q: Is it normal?
>
> As the software need to do streaming of the my cdrom,
> I can only play the vcd by "root".
>
> Pls. Help!!!!

Colin Day


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From: "Shawn Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help a naive newbie
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:28:26 -0500

Thanks.  More stuff to read.  Wheeee!!


"David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Shawn Mann wrote:
> >
> >
> > If anybody has any recommendations or links to help me get started or
wants
> > to discourage the poor naive fool from melting his brain, I'll listen to
> > everyone that cares to comment or help.
>
> You will still need to install linux first.
>
> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
>
> --
> Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538



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From: Mongolian Horde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help a naive newbie
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:34:24 +1000

Sounds to me like you want to start off with a very slim Debian
install - it's highly configurable, but relatively easy to use at the
same time.

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:25:58 -0500, "Shawn Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I acquired a copy of Red Hat 6.2 and have been reading up on Linux in
>general for quite while.  I've got my hardware all sorted out and
>identified. Planning on installing next week when my KVM switch gets here.
>Rather than dual boot, I'm going to switch between a Win98 machine and the
>Linux box so that if I get into a jam during the installation, I can get on
>the net for search for help without having reboot back & forth.
>
>I'm fairly adept at Windows.  I think this because I had a pretty good
>background in DOS before I started using Windows extensively.  Along the
>same lines, I think I'd be better at Linux if I ignore the GUI interfaces
>and learn the OS by getting around the command line first.  To take this to
>the extreme, I think I'd get better yet if I ignored the RH 6.2 disto and
>try to gather all the pieces (kernel, drivers and whatever else) manually
>and try to build it up from "scratch".  Problem is I don't know where to
>begin or what is involved.
>
>If anybody has any recommendations or links to help me get started or wants
>to discourage the poor naive fool from melting his brain, I'll listen to
>everyone that cares to comment or help.
>
>Thanks
>
>Shawn
>The Naive Newbie
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Newbie Setup ??
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 02:48:59 GMT

Hello:

Thanks in advance for responses.

I am planning to install Mandrake 7.1 on the following system

Home Built System

Aopen AX6BC 440bx motherboard
PII 450 CPU
256mb Samsung gh cas2 mem
3DFX Velocity 100 AGP Video ( Voodoo3 chipset w/8mb sGram )
USRobtics 56k V90 isa hardware modem (pnp)
Creative Labs AWE64 isa sound card (pnp)
Teac 40x ide CD
Richo 4x CDRW
Canon BJC-4200 Printer ( Parallel )
Umax Astra 610p Scanner ( Parallel )
PS2 Keyboard
PS2 2 button Mouse

Any RED Flags ??

System Currently running 98se
Runs 24/7 stable ( although reboot every
couple weeks to get resources back )

Will be pulling out the hard drive with windows in tact
and sticking in a New 7200rpm Maxtor 13.6gb drive for the project
set up as pure linux format

Basicly I think I would like the setup like I have now
1 patition for software and one for data
What would be a practical partition scheme for linux ???
I have full version of Partition Magic and could do partitioning
in advance. The / (root), user, etc is a little confusing.

Wanting basic single user workstation setup.
KDE ?
Gnome ?

In the end I would like to put the windows drive back in and 
use bios to tell system which drive to boot to.
I would like to keep both systems totally separate.

All constructive critisisim accepted.

:-) Greg B.

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From: Kevin Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Changing SCSI Cards - Boot Error Messages - SuSE 6.4
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:51:57 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello Johan,


Johan Kullstam wrote:
> 
> did you make a new initial ramdisk?  redhat has a command called
> mkinitrd that creates on.  you have to have your aic7xxx module in
> your ramdisk image.


You sent me in the right direction - I went to the SuSE site and looked up
"ramdisk" on their support database...  It looks like it just might be the
information I need.

However, I have yet to put it to the test, so I'll try to make a new initial
ramdisk using their methods and see what happens.  If I don't get anywhere, I
will post back at the newsgroup...

Thank You for your quick response!


Good Evening and Best Regards,

Kevin Adams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebee Johnstone)
Subject: Re: Help a naive newbie
Date: 28 Jul 2000 02:17:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In comp.os.linux.setup on Thu, 27 Jul 2000 19:25:58 -0500
Shawn Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I'm fairly adept at Windows.  I think this because I had a pretty good
>background in DOS before I started using Windows extensively.  Along the
>same lines, I think I'd be better at Linux if I ignore the GUI interfaces
>and learn the OS by getting around the command line first.  To take this to
>the extreme, I think I'd get better yet if I ignored the RH 6.2 disto and
>try to gather all the pieces (kernel, drivers and whatever else) manually
>and try to build it up from "scratch".  Problem is I don't know where to
>begin or what is involved.
>

BUilding your own distro is a fairly major task, don't attempt it till
you know what you are doing.

Instead, load redhat (or debian or slack) and install a "custom
workstation".  from the list of things that gives you, pick the stuff
you will probably need, you can always delete or install later.

Make sure you don't let it boot you into X (redhat asks on a screen
after it does the Xwin install) and ther eyou go.  A command line
machine.

Then you put together a simple X desktop without all the fancy crap
(see http://www.zip.com.au/~zebee/fvwmrc.txt for an example) and you
can fire up lots of xterms to do the command line stuff with when you
want to.

I don't like to boot into X, but I do run it most of the time.  I do
all my config and admin from xterms though.  I have to - I admin
remote machines.

Zebee

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