Linux-Setup Digest #272, Volume #19              Sat, 29 Jul 00 16:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Linux Cluster (Roger Seiler)
  Re: How to Config For Non-Root to start ppp-on script (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Question about PPP connection (Bill Unruh)
  Re: reinstalling LILO---doesn't work over Win2K??? (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Gnome or KDE (Michal Jaegermann)
  PCMCIA NIC and 2.4 Kernel ("Thomas Garsiot")
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Gnome or KDE (Darren Winsper)
  Re: Gnome or KDE (Doc Shipley)
  Getting rid of a linux partition. (Neil Horlock)
  problem with software installations (matty)
  tape backup, firewall and networking problem ("vincent")
  Re: Getting rid of a linux partition. ("Thomas Garsiot")
  Re: ftp (Anna)
  Re: ftp (Anna)
  Re: And test3Dfx failed (Gilles Hamel)
  The module for NIC can't be used after the restruction of kernel. (Eiichi NISHINA)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Smitty)
  redhat 6.x install fails ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: tape backup, firewall and networking problem ("David ..")

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From: Roger Seiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Cluster
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:55:52 +0200

Hello everyone. 

I' d like to install SUSE 6.4 with NFS on 20 486 machines with 16 MB RAM. This
doesn't work because I'm not able to load the root image to the Ramdisk. 
Has anyone got any hints (apart from copying to HDD on an other machine etc..)
Thanks.

Roger

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: How to Config For Non-Root to start ppp-on script
Date: 29 Jul 2000 17:16:26 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Phillip J. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>I have gotten my intenet connection working fine as root.  But as soon
>as I am logged on as a normal user I cannot activate the ppp-on script.
>How do I configure RH6.2 to allow a normal user to access the internet
>(by the way this computer is just a laptop).


cd /usr/sbin
chomd a+rx pppd chat
chmod +s pppd
chmod a+rw /dev/ttyS?
Thereafter do the last one each time you run linuxconf which "helpfully"
resets the permissions on the serial ports without asking.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Question about PPP connection
Date: 29 Jul 2000 17:17:27 GMT

In <8llriu$mcg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jimmy Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Except using minicom under Gentus Linux 3.0, how can I start my interactive
>PPP connection thru the phone line and modem.

For step by step instructions about setting up ppp under Linux, see
              http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: reinstalling LILO---doesn't work over Win2K???
Date: 29 Jul 2000 17:23:02 GMT

In <8lqe74$bsq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Colin Reinhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

]I lost LILO after reinstalling Win2K.  I made a boot disk (bare.i) and got
]back in to Linux.
]Then I ran /sbin/lilo.  It said.
]Adding Linux...
]Adding Win2000...
]bla-bla-bla...
]This should reset my MBR to point to LILO right???

](in lilo.conf install=/boot/boot.b, which is what I want and the default...)

]When I rebooted, it still boots right into Win2K.


depends on what the 
boot=
line says. It should say
boot=/dev/hda
(assuming LILO should be on the first IDE disk)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michal Jaegermann)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: 29 Jul 2000 17:38:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Doc Shipley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Ice, XFCE and Blackbox are much smaller and faster than KDE or Gnome.

ROTFL!  And my car is much smaller and faster than a highway.
A quoted sentence and the one here make roughly the same amount of
sense.

Gnome and KDE are _not_ window managers (even if ties to kwm are pretty
strong in KDE).

:  Ice is my choice,

You can run Ice rather nicely as a window manager in a Gnome framework,
and I did that, although recently I am somewhat partial to sawfish.
Still Ice is a few mouse clicks away.

Personal choices is all of that is about; although _informed_ choices
are preferable. :-)

   Michal

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From: "Thomas Garsiot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: PCMCIA NIC and 2.4 Kernel
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:43:49 GMT

Hi,

I was using kernel 2.2.16 and pcmcia-cs package with my xircom 2PS NIC.

I recently tried to upgrade to 2.4.0-test5 and tried to use the pcmcia and
pppoe modules.

the kernel compiled without any problem, as well as the modules.

When I boot, and then do a depmod -a, then modprobe xirc2ps_cs, everything
seems to work fine.

Then i try to turn the eth0 interface on by a ifconfig eth0 up, but i get an
error message saying there's no such interface.

a lsmod returns :
Module                  Size  Used by
xirc2ps_cs             11752   0  (unused)
nls_iso8859-1           2828   1  (autoclean)
vfat                   10476   1  (autoclean)
fat                    30816   0  (autoclean) [vfat]
nls_cp437               4340   1

I cannot find any pcmcia_core.o, ds.o file in my lib/modules/2.4.0-test5
folder.
Have they disappeared from the new pcmcia package (included in the kernel) ?
Anyway, I assume I don't need them since the xircom modules loads properly.


I'm probably missing something obvious, but I don't know what.

Is there any way of testing the module without an ifconfig ?

Thanks in advance for your help.


Cheers,

    Thomas






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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:16:15 -0700

Christopher Browne wrote:
> 
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when brian moore would say:
> >On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:47:24 -0700,
> > blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Red Hat is a sinking ship?
> >>
> >> Red Hat's CFO is abandoning ship.
> >
> >Or he got a better offer.  Or he likes California more than North
> >Carolina.. or lots of things.
> 
> Indeed.  And there _could_ have been something negative about RHAT.
> 
> Although it seems more likely that it would have something to do with
> the fact that six months ago, the "startups" were looking exceedingly
> good, and the stock market is now taking a dimmer view of them.  Which
> doesn't forcibly have anything _direct_ to do with RHAT.
> 
REAL money people are really allergic to red. Especially red ink. ;-)

> I seem to remember "Rasterman" moving to California because he
> didn't like the nightlife in the Research Triangle, so there are
> certainly reasons and to spare...
> 
Maybe, or maybe not.

I know California rules. I'm a happy Californian myself. :-)

But I'm sure he can fly out to California every weekend if he thinks RH
can be
salvaged and turn back into a money machine.

But even the strongest, most powerful tug-boat cannot pull the Titanic
out of the rough water in the North Atlantic.

Only those clueless, day-time wet-dreaming, naive geeks who got
braindamaged by worshipping GNU/GPL and believing in Slashdot would
believe everything is rosy and sweet and free.

> >> http://www.it-director.com/00-07-28-3.html
> >
> >Gads, you get business analysis from an IT trade rag?  That's akin to
> >using Penthouse as a dating guide.
> >
> >Get a clue.
> 
> I once had a coworker who tried to impress people with jokes out
> of Playboy.  The less-than-impressive part was that his family ran a
> convenience store, and it was fairly evident that most of the things he
> read were borrowed from the family newsstand.  Suffice it to say this
> did _not_ impress the women in the office...

If  one needs a dating guide, or even worst, have to use Penthouse as a
dating guide... then, he'll never get a real date.

For me... I don't need no dating guide. I just be myself, who I am and
what I am, I might say I am self-confident and self-secured by default.
;P~

And it's way too late to make me read any dating guide, since I've been
dating this woman for half of my life already. And I don't see, or can
find any reason to change the situation. :-)

- blowfish

> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/>
> Mary had a little lambda
> A sheep she couldn't clone
> And every where that lambda went
> Her calculus got blown

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: 29 Jul 2000 18:16:11 GMT

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:10:14 -0700, Jimmy Navarro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I like KDE in my Thinkpad because GNOME is too ugly in my 12.1" viewable
> Active Matrix screen, the bottom horizontal bar to can not set to tiny
> or thinner like in KDE.

Psst...try GNOME 1.2

-- 
Darren Winsper (El Capitano) 
ICQ #8899775 - AIM: Ikibawa - MSNIM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stellar Legacy project member - http://stellarlegacy.sourceforge.net
DVD boycotts.  Are you doing your bit?
This message was typed before a live studio audience.

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From: Doc Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:19:32 GMT

Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> 
> Doc Shipley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : Ice, XFCE and Blackbox are much smaller and faster than KDE or Gnome.
> 
> ROTFL!  And my car is much smaller and faster than a highway.
> A quoted sentence and the one here make roughly the same amount of
> sense.

Bull. You've taken this statement out of context, ignored its relation
to the original question, AND failed to complete your homework. (XFCE is
a desktop environment, in the same class as Gnome and KDE.) The question
concerned GUIs, not window managers, and all 5 qualify. 
 
> Gnome and KDE are _not_ window managers (even if ties to kwm are pretty
> strong in KDE).

You might trouble yourself to read my second post in this thread,
wherein I say exactly the same thing, in more detail. For that matter,
you might want to finish the post you refer to, and notice that I did
differentiate between "environment" and "windowmanager"

> :  Ice is my choice,
> 
> You can run Ice rather nicely as a window manager in a Gnome framework,
> and I did that, although recently I am somewhat partial to sawfish.
> Still Ice is a few mouse clicks away.

 Yes, I've tried that (Ice in Gnome). It's cute. And sawfish is the best
thing ever to happen to Gnome. But the point is that neither Gnome nor
KDE, as running environments, are essential or even desirable in all
situations.

-- 
 Doc Shipley
   Network Stuff
      Austin, Earth

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From: Neil Horlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: free.uk.tv.gormenghast
Subject: Getting rid of a linux partition.
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:19:01 +0100

Right well my Linux experience has been interesting but now I'd like to
get back to things I understand again.  I have a Linux partition on a
hard drive and I'd like to use the whole thing for windows again.  Can
anybody please tell me if I can reset it to a normal windows partition
using fips somehow.  Fips didn't seem to want to know since it was only
interested in splitting the dos partitions.

I don't have a working Linux system on the drive, and hopefully I won't
need to put one up in order to remove the Linux partition ?????


Any help gratefully appreciated ?  Please include both groups if making
a newsgroup reply ... since I am the sole occupant of futg.

NH.
-- 
"We'll have no trouble here.  This is a local shop for local people.  There is 
nothing for YOU here" ............................. The League of Gentlemen.

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From: matty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem with software installations
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:30:03 GMT

after opening files which are tar files, when trying to install them i get
an error ( which i will insert in a second ).

i'm following all the instructions :
when i'm running :  ./configure     i get the error and it does not let me
continue to the make or make install.
both the gcc and g++ compilers are availble on my machine. rpm files and
other self installing softwares does not give me any error.

the error :
checking for kde libraries installed... configure: error: your system fails
at
linking a small kde application !
check, if your compiler is installed correctly and if you have used the
same compiler to compile Qt and Kdelibs as you use now

your help is needed !


--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: "vincent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: tape backup, firewall and networking problem
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 02:30:10 +0800

I have encountered such problems in linux:
I am using red hat 6.2 linux
1. when I connect the SCSI backup tape to the machine, reboot and it can
findmy tape drive and even i use
    mt -f /dev/st0 status, it works well and display the info. but when I
use other commands like rewind, retension, or even tar to it, it keeps
prompting me i/o error why?
2. i have installed ipchains on the other machine which uses as a firewall.
the whole system works well for a period of time, but after a period, say 1
month, the network service of the system hang.. which means i cannot ping it
telnet it or any other network app. But when I go in front of the machine,
it works well.. but only no network service, why? I have checked the log and
i saw that everytime before the machine gets hang, it will reboot itself..
why?
can anyone helps me since you know.. it is just a bomb.. i don't know when
will it "hang" again but it is a production server so it is very urgent.
Thanks for your help, Experts!

Regards,
Vincent



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From: "Thomas Garsiot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: free.uk.tv.gormenghast
Subject: Re: Getting rid of a linux partition.
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 18:55:04 GMT


Neil Horlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Right well my Linux experience has been interesting but now I'd like to
> get back to things I understand again.
Do you really understand windows ?

I have a Linux partition on a
> hard drive and I'd like to use the whole thing for windows again.  Can
> anybody please tell me if I can reset it to a normal windows partition
> using fips somehow.  Fips didn't seem to want to know since it was only
> interested in splitting the dos partitions.
>
> I don't have a working Linux system on the drive, and hopefully I won't
> need to put one up in order to remove the Linux partition ?????
>

If you have a linux boot disk or rescue disk, or a mini linux, you can use
it to boot , then run fdisk and delete your linux partitions.
(I don't think Win98 will be able to delete linux partitions since it's not
even capable of deleting an NT partition)
If you configured your Linux box to boot from the hard drive (most likely
using lilo) then boot from a win9X boot disk and run fdisk /mbr ro restore
your Master Boot Record to its previous state.


Hope this helps.

Thomas




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From: Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:30:55 -0400

This is what happens when i try to ftp my machine :
---
ftp habriel.eng.wayne.edu
Connected to habriel.eng.wayne.edu FTP server (Version
6.2/OpenBSD/Linux-0.11) ready
Name(habreil.eng.wayne.edu:asu1):amit
331 password:
530 Login incorrect.
login failed
---
It seems that ftp server is running and the setting for ftp in "inetd.conf"
is OK. Do I need to set some permission for ftp users, or there is something
else that i am missing.

-Anna

Tom Hoffmann wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:34:30 -0400, Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi
> >Users ( I created ) cannot "ftp" to my machine wheras using this machine
> >I can "ftp" to other sites. What settings are required so that others
> >can "ftp" to my machine.
>
> Are you running an ftp server on your machine?  Check your
> /etc/inetd.conf file and make sure the 'ftp' line is not commented out.
>
> Hope this helps.


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From: Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:31:07 -0400

This is what happens when i try to ftp my machine :
---
ftp habriel.eng.wayne.edu
Connected to habriel.eng.wayne.edu FTP server (Version 6.2/OpenBSD/Linux-0.11)
ready
Name(habreil.eng.wayne.edu:asu1):amit
331 password:
530 Login incorrect.
login failed
---
It seems that ftp server is running and the setting for ftp in "inetd.conf"  is
OK. Do I need to set some permission for ftp users, or there is something else
that i am missing.

-Anna

"Dr. Tu Yu" wrote:

> Have you installed WU-ftp from the distrobution disk?
>
> "Tom Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:34:30 -0400, Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Hi
> > >Users ( I created ) cannot "ftp" to my machine wheras using this machine
> > >I can "ftp" to other sites. What settings are required so that others
> > >can "ftp" to my machine.
> >
> > Are you running an ftp server on your machine?  Check your
> > /etc/inetd.conf file and make sure the 'ftp' line is not commented out.
> >
> > Hope this helps.


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From: Gilles Hamel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 3dfx.glide.linux
Subject: Re: And test3Dfx failed
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:26:08 +0200

kc wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gilles Hamel
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > When i test my glide config with /usr/bin/test3Dfx, i have the message " video
> > memory unprotecting " then a seg fault !
> >
> > my glide package is glide_v3-2.60-49 ( glide v 2.60.00.0415) and my Xfree SVGA
> > Server is 3.3.6.
> >
> > Where is the problem ?
> 
> You need to have the necessary video modes configured in your XF86Config. I
> believe the test requires 640x480.
> 
> HTH...
Thank you for this tip. The tests are now ok !

Where does the message "video memory unprotecting" come from ? How to
remove it ?

I have tried some GLUT demos. Few demos use mouse and menus are not
visible in 3DFX screen. The Readme say it's possible to render into an X
window with the help of the Voodoo 1 hardware with :

      export MESA_GLX_FX="window"     // to enable window rendering
      export SST_VGA_PASS=1   // to stop video signal switching
      export SST_NOSHUTDOWN=1 // to stop video signal switching
  
or voodoo 2 hardware with 

      export SSTV2_VGA_PASS=1   // to stop video signal switching
      export SSTV2_NOSHUTDOWN=1 // to stop video signal switching

But nothing for voodoo 3 hardware ...

How to do that with a voodoo 3 hardware ?

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From: Eiichi NISHINA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: The module for NIC can't be used after the restruction of kernel.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 01:10:09 +0900

I have a problem after the restruction of kernel.
I can use the module for network card when I use boot floppy disk,
but can't use it when I start with the LILO boot, and
the error messages is displayed as follows:

/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
skb_over_panic_R30a5b65c
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
__kfree_skb_Rb6af35e9
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
init_etherdev_Rfcc76090
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
eth_copy_and_sum_R4b0e72f0
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
eth_type_trans_R2a2d4e5c
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
alloc_skb_Rb4a8ccd2
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
unregister_netdev_Re0b06163
/lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net/via-rhine.o: unresolved symbol
netif_rx_R1da5b113

What I did when the restruction of the kernel are as follows:

/cd usr/src/linux
make xconfig
make dep
make clean
make
make mrproper

make modules
make modules_install
depmod -a

And I made a boot disk with the command "make bzdisk"

And I confirmed boot was successfully done,
 and the usage of module "via-rhine.o" for the network card.

And then, I installed kernel on the LILO using the command "make bzlilo"

The boot is successfully done through LILO,
but I can't use the module "via-rhine.o" even using the command as
follows:

cd /lib/modules/2.2.13-33/net
modprobe via-rhine

and the error message as I wrote above is displayed.
If we confirm it by "lsmod",  the module is not used.

Even this mail can be sent using boot floppy disk.
Thanks for helps.

With Best Regards
========
Eiichi NISHINA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Smitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:44:01 -0400

brian moore wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 00:20:16 -0700,
>  blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > brian moore wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2000 12:47:24 -0700,
> > >  blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Red Hat is a sinking ship?
> > > >
> > > > Red Hat's CFO is abandoning ship.
> > >
> > > Or he got a better offer.  Or he likes California more than North
> > > Carolina.. or lots of things.
> > >
> > > > http://www.it-director.com/00-07-28-3.html
> > >
> > > Gads, you get business analysis from an IT trade rag?  That's akin to
> > > using Penthouse as a dating guide.
> > >
> > No.  Wall Street told me RH is a sinking ship.
> 
> A place?
> 
> > Have you ever wonder why Bob Young dumped almost half of his shares of
> > RH right before
> > the RH shares hit below ground zero?
> 
> Let's see, 6 months (I wonder if that's a magic number?  nah, couldn't
> be... that would be too obvious) to the day after the IPO, Mr Young
> cashed in some of his shares.  Nowhere near half of them, though.  God
> forbid he should benefit from his business.
> 
> I don't see any other notices of Mr Young selling his shares.  I do
> see that he gave 140k shares to someone as a gift on April 21, 2000.
> (Pretty nice gift, eh?)
> 
> As for "below ground zero", they're trading at above what they IPO'd
> for.  (Not what speculators drove the price to, but what they and their
> underwriters determined was a fair price for equity.)
> 
> Considering that Microsoft is at about 60% or so of what they were at a
> year ago, I'd say that's pretty good.
> 
> > And why Bill Gates (yes, the Microsoft's CEO Gates.) filed at the FTC to
> > dump almost $500million worth of RH shares shartly after Bob Young
> > dumped his?
> >
> > Why Bill Gates owns so much of RH? How much more RH shares Gates still
> > owns?
> 
> Because Gates has a lot of money and invests it in a lot of things?
> 
> Of course, typical of your nonsense, Gates didn't sell $500M worth of RH
> stock.  He doesn't own that much.  He sold $450k worth of stock.
> Cascade Investment, LLC owns roughly 4 million shares of RH stock.  At
> $18/share, that's, what, $72M total?  RedHat has roughly 157M shares of
> stock outstanding.  So Cascade had as much as, what, 2.5% of it?
> 
> Last I checked, owning stock in a company didn't give you control of
> their day to day operations, especially when it's only 2.5%.
> 
> > > Get a clue.
> > >
> > Vi messed up your head!?
> 
> Nope.  Has trying to use Netscape for usenet messed up yours?
> 
> > I read WSJ, Barrons and Forbe for financial news.
> 
> Uh-huh.  But you didn't choose to look this up in any of them?
> 
> When you are as -wrong- as you are about the "$500million worth of RH
> shares" that Gates supposedly sold, why would anyone trust your other
> "facts"?  Being off by a factor of 1000 is a sign you should actually
> -read- the journals you claim to read.
> 
> Look, if you don't like RedHat (I don't), at least use -valid- reasons
> to criticize them.  Don't just make up bullshit: it makes you look
> stupid.  Complain about their lack of quality review, complain about
> the chaos that contrib RPMs create, complain about their bizarre ideas
> of how the file heirarchy works.  But as long as you continue to post
> blatant lies, you will continue to come across as a raving lunatic.
> 
> --
> Brian Moore                  
Bill Gatesborg owns just under 241,000 shares of RedHat, Inc.  That is
definitely not enough to control the company.  I use RedHat and I think
it is o.k.  I am open to another distrib-any suggestions?  Please also
explain why.
Smitty

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: redhat 6.x install fails
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:46:07 GMT

I have successfully installed RH 5.1, and 5.2, as well as Caldera
OpenLinux 1.2, and 1.3 on my laptop.  After a little tweaking,
everything works fine.  However, when trying to install RH 6.x, or
Caldera 2.x the install hangs after formating the partitions.  I'm sure
this message at boot has something to do with this.

pci_ide not 100% native mode, will probe irqs later.

My hardware has not changed, so something has obviously changed with
the linux kernel in this regard.  Is there any way to get around this?
I'm tired of RH5.x.

Any help is greatly appreciated.


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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: tape backup, firewall and networking problem
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 14:57:38 -0500

With an SCSI tape drive you might find the link below to be of interest.

http://www.arkeia.com/

They have a FREE personal edition which works GREAT on my system.

Just an idea.
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