Linux-Setup Digest #281, Volume #19              Sun, 30 Jul 00 22:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Hosed install.  Techs messed up.  Moving /usr? (smlynarczyk)
  Re: Gnome or KDE (Jim Broughton)
  RH 6.0 Networking ("Rick Baker")
  Re: Ripping audio CD's with Linux??? ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: I/O question ("Steve Riskus")
  Re: Help!!!! Home-Network-mini-HOWTO (Zebee Johnstone)
  Re: HELP!!! Backspace driving me crazy in bash (Mark Schlegel)
  Re: Installing RH 6.0 with a boot-20000407.img disk ("David ..")
  RedHat 6.2 Soundcard, Modem Confilct ("David Stackis")
  MX Records and Mail Server ("Mark Gallegos")
  Re: Sound output distorts when screen changes in X (Steven Fosdick)
  Re: [LILO] says "LI" even with small /boot partition ("Rob Sturgess")
  Installing software in Linux. ("Rob Sturgess")
  Re: Strange problem with pinging (David Efflandt)
  Re: Which distribution for my PC? (Rod Smith)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
  Re: MX Records and Mail Server (Rod Smith)
  Come to my Linux's Website! ("Sam Tang")

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From: smlynarczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,iu.linux,linux.dev.newbie,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: Hosed install.  Techs messed up.  Moving /usr?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:14:22 -0500

Not clear what you mean by "changing directory names from inside Gnome /
properties".  One thought however is to look at using symbolic links to
redirect directories to the new linux partition.  For example, if you
want directory "/usr/local/pete" to use space in the new  partition,
create a directory in the new Linux partition (for instance
/newpartition/pete) and then do the following:


ln -s /newpartition/pete /usr/local/pete

The above assumes that prior to executing the ln command, the
/usr/local/pete directory does not yet exist.  If you already have a lot
of data in /usr/local/pete, rename the direcotory temporarily
(/usr/loca/pete.old for example) and perform the ln command.  Then, you
can copy back all the files/directories in pete.old to the new pete. 
One way to do this is to cd to /usr/local/pete.old and execute the
following:

find . -print | cpio -pdumv /usr/local/pete

At this point, all file access to /usr/local/pete is actually to the
newly created partition. The above is an old remedy used by
administrators when file systems run out of space.





Michael Coulter wrote:
> 
> I let a local PC dealer setup a dual boot linux /win98 machine for me and it
> cost a ton.
> And they really goofed up with druid.
> 
> They let a 6 gig area of the disk go uninitialized as they thought it would
> "grow".  It turns out that is only at
> install time, not during normal run conditions.
> 
> I found out the hard way.  Loading Staroffice
> 
> So..I zapped the win D drive and made it into a linux partition and mounted
> it first as /home
> because /home is easier and I can do that.
> (I use gnome to rename directories and cannot do that at linux text level)
> 
> I got a suggestion to mount instead /usr but /usr has all the xwindows stuff
> and gnome and
> then I cannot change the names of  /nusr (the new usr dir) and /usr.
> 
> How does one change directory names aside from inside Gnome / properties?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> This it taking way too long.

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From: Jim Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:31:37 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Pig wrote:
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> I am a newbie of Linux and using the SUSE linux 6.3.
> I've tried different GUIs.
> I think the Gnome and KDE are the best.
> So, which one is better? Pls. suggest.

This is a Really HOT topic sure to cause a massive religious
war but so be it.
 Install BOTH one can run programs built for use under the
other with NO problems. I have both installed and primarily
use KDE (I like the look and feel (my subjective opinion)).
I also like a few of the GNOME apps as they have been very usefull.
The menus to one are accessable from the other. A nice feature.
So both are installed and can be switched between in less than
a minute. Watch out though some things like the respective file
managers when run under the other system will cause a dualing desktop
configuration. Ever have both GUI's panels and icons accessible
at the same time? (very weird) BTW this is under RH6.1.
 
-- 
Jim Broughton
(The Amiga OS! Now there was an OS)
If Sense were common everyone would have it!

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From: "Rick Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH 6.0 Networking
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:43:07 -0500

This is my first Linux installation. I have an NT 4.0 network at home, want
to connect my Linux box.  I have an Intel EtherExpress Pro 100b card that
appears to be working, I can ping the cards IP address from the Linux box,
but not from my NT box.  I cannot ping the Linux box from NT.  Is there
another way to test if the NIC is working (besides ping)?  I used Linuxconf
to set up the networking, does this make the appropriate settings in the
kernal?

If I have an NT server, do I have to run Samba?

TIA, Rick Baker



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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ripping audio CD's with Linux???
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:46:45 GMT

dionysis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:yqlg5.318$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm unable to iron out driver problems in Win 98 to be able to digitally
rip
> audio CD's.  Someone suggested I run Linux tandem with Win 98.
>
> Are the Linux CD drivers better at digitally ripping audio CD's to MP3?
>
> I found Caldera Linux 2.2 with documention used for $20.
>
> I also found Linux 6.5 Mandrake used with documentation for $20.  Should I
> go
> with that if I decide to try this?
>
> Which Linux is "better"?

These are both old versions.  You can get the newest editions
of both of them together for less than $20.  See for example:
   http://www.cheapbytes.com



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From: "Steve Riskus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I/O question
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:50:44 -0400

Its a ensoniq sounscape vivo wav table card or something like that.. I am
using Caldera...

"Steve Riskus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:CZ1h5.5591$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> im trying to configure sound on a linux box but i do not understand how to
> figure out the I/O address of the sound card. Any help?
>
>
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebee Johnstone)
Subject: Re: Help!!!! Home-Network-mini-HOWTO
Date: 30 Jul 2000 22:58:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In comp.os.linux.setup on Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:31:20 GMT
Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I tried checking out some different firewalling scripts (for
>masquerading etc) except that all of the other ones that I have looked
>at try to run the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward script.  However, I
>don't have a /proc/sys directory.  I am not sure if the HOWTO is doing
>something different than my other sources, or if I don't have some
>package installed that I should.
>

I ignore that bit and do it elsewhere :)

Redhat keeps most of its networking doodads in /etc/sysconfig.

Head over to there, edit the file "network" and  set the
value of FORWARD_IPV4 to true

restart your networking by
        /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart

Now run the simplest masquerading:
        /sbin/ipchains -F forward
        /sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY
        /sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQ

where 192.168.1.0/24 matches your own internal network.

Now see if you can get out.

If you can, then time to finetune the firewall - ftp masq proxies and
such.

Zebee


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From: Mark Schlegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP!!! Backspace driving me crazy in bash
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:54:01 -0400

Chiefy wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:04:36 -0500, Mark E. Mason did say to the dudes:
> >Hello;
> >
> >I am running RedHat 6.2 headless.  I am accessing it via the Exceed X
> >emulator for WinNT.  Mostly, I am using linux as a firewall.
> >
> >When I bring up an Xterm, and I use the backspace key at the command line,
> >it DOES NOT delete the character to the left of the cursor.  In fact, it
> >just beeps.  If I press Ctrl-H, I get the desired behavior.
> [snip]
> 
> Debian is in use here, and the backspace key does delete in Xterm, as
> does ^h.
> 
> File /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm allows you to define the characters
> generated by the backspace key.
> 
> Not sure where it'll be in RH.
> 
> LGB

why not put in the .bashrc in your home directory:

stty erase '^H'




Mark

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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing RH 6.0 with a boot-20000407.img disk
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:03:50 -0500

ken k wrote:
> 
> I created a boot disk from the boot-20000407.img file to get around
> the Win98 extended partition problem. Problem is it does not seem
> to reconise my Redhat 6.0 or 5.1 CD. Can you only install RH 6.2
> with this boot disk or am I doing something wrong?
> 
>  Oh, the 5.1 CD is a real Readhat CD. The 6.0 is a $3 special from
> Linuxlabs or some such place.

Depending on the version you are trying to install you can find the
boot.img file for it at the link below:

ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/old-releases/

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538

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From: "David Stackis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: RedHat 6.2 Soundcard, Modem Confilct
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:25:33 -0700

I have installed RedHat 6.2...using the KDE workstation option...it's great
and all except for one little thing...

Seems I can configure my modem using the KPPP tool, and I can connect to the
internet and all....

I can also run sndconfig from a console, and get my SoundBlaster AWE64
working....the thing is, is after I configure my soundcard, my modem will
not work anymore...I get the message "The modem is busy"

I have tried to configure the soundcard first, but then I cannot configure
the modem...which by the way is a US Robotics 56K V90 Internal.

My modem is on COM1.....dev/ttyS0
My soundcard is on COM2.....dev/tty/S1

Has anyone else experienced this before, and know a way to make both pieces
of hardware work together in harmony...

TIA!
David Stackis




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From: "Mark Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,linux.redhat
Subject: MX Records and Mail Server
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:26:45 -0700

I am a linux newbie and have a mail server question.  I've setup a mail
server for my server (red hat 6.2 running POP3 and sendmail).  I've got the
mail server answering for my primary domain (I'll call it mydomain.com) and
I've set it up in linuxconf basic mail services to answer to
mail.mydomain.com.  Mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] arrives as expected --
it all works.  I've set up a second domain name called otherdomain.com and I
want to have all mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be forwarded to the
operational mail server at mail.mydomain.com.

Both my domains are registered with Register.com so I used their domain
management tools to register an MX record for otherdomain.com to point to
mail.mydomain.com -- but now when I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is
returned as user unknown.  My first question is how can I tell that the mail
is even making it to mail.mydomain.com and, secondly, if it is arriving, why
is it being rejected for user unknown if there is a user registered on the
system?

Thanks, Mark




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From: Steven Fosdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Sound output distorts when screen changes in X
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:14:26 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 "Henno Schooljan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've got a sound problem with Red Hat Linux 6.0 when I try to play sound
> (e.g. a MP3-file) with XFree 3.3.6.1. The MP3-file plays just great when I
> just sit back and don't touch anything, but when I move the mouse pointer or
> open some menu's which causes the screen contents to change, the sound
> becomes jerky. (I even had to switch off that moving spectrum analyzer of
> X11amp, because that also caused sound distortion). I know my computer is
> pretty old (Pentium running at 83 MHz), but I do not have these problems
> running Windows 95 (and that OS is noticeably slower than Linux...) I hope
> anyone can help me with this problem.

This may be a process prioritization issue.  I think Windows is more ready to
allow an application more than its fair share of the CPU than Linux, so probably
in Windows the MP3 playing is getting priority whereas in Linux the other things
are taking their share.

If this is the cause of the problem you could try running the mp3 player at higher
or real time priority.

Paging activity is another possibility.  Just playing mp3 the level of disk
activity should be low - the transfer rate for mp3 is a couple of hundred
Kbits/sec and even a slow disk will do about 4Mbytes/sec.  If the disk
rattles a lot during mp3 playing or if there is immediate disk activity on
moving the mouse then you probably don't have enough physical RAM
for all the things you are running - try running fewer programs.


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From: "Rob Sturgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LILO] says "LI" even with small /boot partition
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:57:59 +1000

I had this error occur when I reinstalled red hat with out reinstalling LILO
; try reinstalling LILO to your Master Boot Record and see what happens.

R.




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From: "Rob Sturgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing software in Linux.
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 11:03:22 +1000

Hello friendly linux group!

I've recently installed linux on my PC, on a spare hard drive ; but it's
only got 400 Mb. No problem , I thought, because linux knows how to read and
write to the Windows drive. But even when I use RPM, I never get asked where
I want the program to be installed to. I'm sure there must be a way to plonk
linux stuff onto my FAT32 system; but how ?

Should I learn to do my installs manally instead ???

Rob Sturgess.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Strange problem with pinging
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:16:19 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Anurag Purwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have set up basic networking on a Linux box running RedHat6.2 inside a
>firewall and I am seeing some strange problem. I ping to a host outside
>my firewall and it responds. I ping again and it responds. I ping
>another time and it does not. Now from this point onward, I can not ping
>any host outside my firewall. But I can ping any host inside my local
>network anytime.
>This is how my routing table looks like: (192.168.27.75 is the IP
>address of my machine, and yes, 192.168.27.1 is IP of firewall)
>
>Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt
>Iface
>192.168.27.75   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH        0 0          0
>eth0
>192.168.27.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
>eth0
>127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U         0 0          0
>lo
>0.0.0.0         192.168.27.1    0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0
>eth0
>
>Other info: I can ping both name and IP wise, so no name resolution
>problem here. And DNS is OK too, atleast when the outside hosts are
>responding. My trouble is that everything works fine for a few minutes
>and then it does not. I mean by not responding as: no reply at all.
>i.e., it just waits until I do a Ctrl+C.
>Any Networking gurus, plz? Thanks.

Everything looks fine on your internal box, so it must be a problem with
your firewall or its internet connection.  But you do not give a clue what
your firewall is or if you have a problem getting out from the firewall
itself when this happens.

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/  http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/


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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Which distribution for my PC?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:20:23 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <8m215a$g9p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm a long time UNIX user thinking of putting Linux on my PC (as a dual
> boot between Win 98SE and Linux).
> 
> My biggest concern is Linux Hardware support of my PC.
> 
> Here is what I have:
> 
> Abit BE6 motherboard (440BX chipset) with 800MHz Pentium III
> 256M SDRAM

These should be no problem.

> IBM 20G ATA/66 Hard disk on a Highpoint HPT366 EIDE Controller

The disk itself should be no problem, but I can't speak to the EIDE
controller.

> Monster Sound MX300 Soundcard  (Aureal Vortex 2 chipset)

I know that some Aureal Vortext products are supported, but I don't know
about that one specifically.

> Elsa Gladiac (nVidia Geforce 2 GTS chipset)

There are Linux (XFree86) drivers for several nVidia chipsets available
on nVidia's web site. Check there for details.

> Toshiba DVD-ROM
> HP CD-RW 8100
> Microsoft PS/2 mouse

None of these should pose any problems.

> Attached to the USB are:
>  Efficient Networks External DSL

I have yet to see any reports, good or bad, about Linux support for
USB-based DSL modems. If it can be made to work at all, it'll require a
2.3.x/pre-2.4 kernel, or the USB support from one of those kernels
ported to a 2.2.x kernel. Check http://www.linux-usb.org for more
details.

>  HP Photosmart Scanner

There's support for some HP USB scanners; again, check
http://www.linux-usb.org. I don't know if your particular model is
supported. As with the DSL modem, you'll need a recent kernel to get
this to work.

> I've checked RedHat 6.2 but it doesn't seem to support a lot of the
> hardware in my PC. My biggest concern is support of the Efficient
> Networks DSL because I need it to access my ISP (Pacific Bell).

That'd be my biggest concern, too. At best, you'll be a trail-blazer
with that one.

> Is there a Linux distribution that will support all of my hardware?

A few Linux distributions (I believe Mandrake 7.1, and probably some
others) now include USB support by default. I don't know if your video
card will work "out of the box" with any distribution; you may need to
get an X server from nVidia. On the whole, I wouldn't count on having
everything work on the first try, especially not the USB stuff.

Fundamentally, Linux distributions don't differ in terms of hardware
support, because most hardware drivers are in the kernel, and
distributions all use the same kernels (give or take a bit). A few do
add in experimental drivers, but you can get those drivers for any
distribution.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:45:24 GMT

Alex writes:
> Why I bash Slashdot?

Because you get some sort of twisted pleasure out of it, I presume.  You
certainly aren't enlightening anyone by doing so.

> Because Slashdot is advocating a lot of unethical stuff by twisting the
> real definition of Freedom of Speech; and its point men Jon Katz and Del
> Taco are super hypocrites in my book.

I wouldn't know: I don't read Slashdot.  I find reading anything on the Web
awkward and inconvenient and use it only when I need to.  I don't need
Slashdot, and I need your attacks on it even less.

> And the GNU-GPL is what exactly what keeps a lot of big corp away from
> using Linux.

I doubt that, but if true, so what?  Why should I condition my choice of
license on the preferences of a pack of "Chief Information Officers" who
think sticking some VB in a Word doc is programming?

> I want Linux and *BSD to success. But in the money circle.

Linux is a succes, but I see no reason why it has to be "in the money
circle".

> Why would they want to give RHat a fat support contract when they can
> have plenty of supports, who understand the local culture, language and
> business need for less!!!???

Beats me.  Perhaps someday everyone will get OS's on $2.00 Cheap Bytes CD's
and purchase support locally.  I would like that just fine.  Why should I
object if the coming changes in the software economy fail to create any new
billionaires?

> RHat's ventures into the Asia market is highly risky.  If not downright
> hopeless.

Whatever.  I own no Red Hat stock, so I see no need to follow the company.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: MX Records and Mail Server
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,linux.redhat
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 01:28:25 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <QI3h5.58$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Mark Gallegos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am a linux newbie and have a mail server question.  I've setup a mail
> server for my server (red hat 6.2 running POP3 and sendmail).  I've got the
> mail server answering for my primary domain (I'll call it mydomain.com) and
> I've set it up in linuxconf basic mail services to answer to
> mail.mydomain.com.  Mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] arrives as expected --
> it all works.  I've set up a second domain name called otherdomain.com and I
> want to have all mail sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be forwarded to the
> operational mail server at mail.mydomain.com.
> 
> Both my domains are registered with Register.com so I used their domain
> management tools to register an MX record for otherdomain.com to point to
> mail.mydomain.com -- but now when I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is
> returned as user unknown.  My first question is how can I tell that the mail
> is even making it to mail.mydomain.com

1) Check the mail's headers
2) Check the server's log files

You may need to use a special command (like "view all headers") or save
the mail on the system that ultimately gets the bounced mail to view the
headers, and it can take some experience to interpret them, but if
you're running a mail server, you **MUST** know how to do this. Various
spam-fighting sites have information on reading mail headers. Check
http://spam.abuse.net/spam/ and
http://www.tmisnet.com/~strads/spamhunt/index.html for starters, but I
can't promise either of those sites has a tutorial readily handy. You
can probably find something by following some links from either site,
though.

I'm not sure where RH 6.2 puts its mail log files, but they're probably
in /var/log/mail, /var/log/maillog, or something similar. Chances are
that file will include messages about every piece of mail received or
bounced.

> secondly, if it is arriving, why
> is it being rejected for user unknown if there is a user registered on the
> system?

My hunch is that the "user unknown" error is misleading. Chances are the
mail server is rejecting the mail because it's addressed to the wrong
system -- that is, the mail server is accepting mail addressed to
mydomain.com, but when it sees mail coming in addressed to
otherdomain.com, it says "no way; that's not me" and bounces it. You
must configure Sendmail to accept mail for both mydomain.com and
otherdomain.com. Unfortunately, I can't tell you precisely how, because
I don't use Sendmail.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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From: "Sam Tang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.x,alt.nl.comp.os.ms-windows,alt.nl.comp.os.ms-windows.nt,alt.nl.comp.os.netware,alt.uu.comp.os
Subject: Come to my Linux's Website!
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:05:04 +0800

Come to my Linux's Website!
http://www.asia-comp.net/linuxcity/




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