Linux-Setup Digest #283, Volume #19              Mon, 31 Jul 00 03:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Math Coprocessor problem - Linux won't boot (B'ichela)
  How to receive multiple email for multiple users concurrently (wisham)
  How to configure fetcmail to retrieve multiple email for multiple users  (wisham)
  SUSE Linux is missing CU & KSH ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Samba password validation problem ("Ross Levis")
  Re: HELP!!! Backspace driving me crazy in bash (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400? ("rude")
  Re: SUSE Linux is missing CU & KSH ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  parport setup failed ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Installing software in Linux. (E J)
  Re: Samba password validation problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How to receive multiple email for multiple users concurrently (Guy White)
  Re: mpeg for linux ("rude")
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: e2fsck problem (Marco Baiocco)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Prasanth A. Kumar)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Subject: Re: Math Coprocessor problem - Linux won't boot
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 00:03:47 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 17:17:29 -0500, Xzera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks, I didn't know I could do that with liloconfig. I may want to
>install Lilo later, but for now I'm gonna stick with Loadlin. It's not
>so bad, since I normally have the machine running 24/7, so booting from
>Win to Lin is actually faster with Loadlin. Only when I want to boot
>back to Winduhz will I have to restart.
>Also, while I've never had a problem with the MBR before (Lilo or
>restoring to win/dos/whathaveyou) I feel I may be wise not to push my
>luck, considering the way it's run lately :)
        The thing with most people's Lilo Installation is that they
put it in the Master Boot Record or MBR. This unforcunatly disabled
Windows. If you later do play with Liloconfig. select the loption
labled
Root    Use superblock of the root Linux partition
Floppy  Use a formatted floppy disk in the boot drive
The first would install Lilo  in its own partition like  you would
install Msdos on a multi-os machine. if Linux was on /dev/hda2 it
would put the lilo guts on /dev/hda2. you would boot it by making
/dev/hda2 bootable.
        The second I have not tried yet.

-- 

                        B'ichela


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From: wisham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to receive multiple email for multiple users concurrently
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:23:26 +0800

I'm a  Linux  administrator (newbie ) and need some info on fetchmail.
I have setup e-mail  on a Linux Redhat 6.1 server   which has sendmail
and POP3 installed.  For the internal use ( LAN) all Win95/98 client can
send and retrieve e-mail  through  this server wihout problem.  But for
the internet email ( PPP dialup link ) ,  I would like to configure
fetchmail so that faetcmail can retrieve/download  email  for every
Win95/98 client .  . So  currently, in order to fetch  email  for every
user.  I have to login into Linux box as the user name and run the
user's fetchmail ( which read their fechmailrc respectively ) The
questions is

1) how can I use crontab ( or whatever  sripts ) to enable fetcmail to
retrieve all the users  email and then  send it to the user mailbox .
Then Win95/98 user can retrieve their e-mail  from the Linux box


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From: wisham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to configure fetcmail to retrieve multiple email for multiple users 
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:38:50 +0800

I'm a  Linux  administrator (newbie ) and need some info on fetchmail.
I have setup e-mail  on a Linux Redhat 6.1 server   which has sendmail
and POP3 installed.  For the internal use ( LAN) all Win95/98 client can

send and retrieve e-mail  through  this server wihout problem.  But for
the internet email ( PPP dialup link ) ,  I would like to configure
fetchmail so that faetcmail can retrieve/download  email  for every
Win95/98 client .  . So  currently, in order to fetch  email  for every
user.  I have to login into Linux box as the user name and run the
user's fetchmail ( which read their fechmailrc respectively ) The
questions is

1) how can I use crontab ( or whatever  sripts ) to enable fetcmail to
retrieve all the users  email  concurrently and then  send it to the
user mailbox .
Then Win95/98 user can retrieve their e-mail  from the Linux box




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SUSE Linux is missing CU & KSH
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 04:31:18 GMT

I am trying to do a custom install of SUSE Linux 6.4 via the expert
tools. I have the system up and running but I am missing a couple of
important commands CU & KSH ! Does anyone know what needs to be
installed in a custom installation to load these commands?

When I do a full install from scratch these commands are automatically
loaded.


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From: "Ross Levis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Samba password validation problem
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:02:00 +1200

We have a NT 4.0 primary server.
Can someone please explain why Windows 98 users cannot browse a Samba server
unless a user account of the same name (as NT login) exists on the Linux
server?  NT workstation users don't have this limitation.

The smb.log shows WinNT users logging in as "nobody" (as all users should)
but for Win98 it shows only an attempt to login as the NT server login name.
According to everything I read, the IPC$ share is always accessed via the
guest account which defaults to "nobody".  "nobody" is setup as a valid
linux and samba account.

I have managed to get around the problem by specifying "map to guest = bad
user" but why do I need this?

Any ideas anyone?

Thanks,
Ross Levis.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: HELP!!! Backspace driving me crazy in bash
Date: 31 Jul 2000 05:10:01 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mark Schlegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

]Chiefy wrote:
]> 
]> On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:04:36 -0500, Mark E. Mason did say to the dudes:
]> >Hello;
]> >
]> >I am running RedHat 6.2 headless.  I am accessing it via the Exceed X
]> >emulator for WinNT.  Mostly, I am using linux as a firewall.
]> >
]> >When I bring up an Xterm, and I use the backspace key at the command line,
]> >it DOES NOT delete the character to the left of the cursor.  In fact, it
]> >just beeps.  If I press Ctrl-H, I get the desired behavior.
]> [snip]
]> File /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm allows you to define the characters
]> generated by the backspace key.

]why not put in the .bashrc in your home directory:

]stty erase '^H'

He has. He says ^H does backspace. However the delete key does not
generate ^H, instead it probably generates Delete. (0x7f)
man xmodmap
man keymaps

The problem is that the writers of emacs, many many years ago, used DEC
VT100 s where the backspace key sent out the 0x7f code, so they used ^H
for a command in emacs. This of course causes problems, since, although
most people do not use emacs, Linux must be set up not to upset emacs
users, so Delete gets (inconsistantly) used-- maybe--sometimes.
Other programs assume ^H is backspace. It is also the standard in DOS,
Windows, etc. 
Ie, it's a mess. See for example
http://www.ibbnet.org/~anne/keyboard/keyboardprev.html
(except that host seems to have no DNS now-- oh well-- anyone know where
it disappeared to?)



]Mark

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From: "rude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:10:40 +0100

Im Artikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> I recently replaced a slightly dated motherboard with an Athlon 650 and
> K7M motherboard and a new 128MB DIMM. Running RedHat 6.2. 
> 
> I'm a little frustrated with performance. Memory access is roughly half
> the speed of another machine (dual P-II/400 on ASUS P2B-DS 256MB). 
> 
> I don't really notice the performance difference until I do anything,
> meaning I can boot, log in, and everything works fine... it's just a
> slow pig when I want to push the machine and make it do anything
> significant. 
> 
> Any ideas? I assume that this is a hardware issue, not a setup issue,
> but I've been wrong before. 
> 
> ---
> Rambling symptoms:
> 
> I've noticed this through several indicators:
> 
> 0) VMWare (latest download) crawls (to the point of being useless) on
> the Athlon and is perfectly usable on the P-II. 
> 
> 1) hdparm -T /dev/hda 
> P-II: ~108MB/s  Athon: ~48MB/s
> 
> 2) Boot-up RAID 5 test:
> P-II:
> 
> raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines 
>     pII_mmx   :   872.871 MB/sec  p5_mmx    :   925.068 MB/sec 
>     8regs     :   689.229 MB/sec 
>     32regs    :   377.571 MB/sec 
> using fastest function: p5_mmx (925.068 MB/sec) 
> 
> Athon:
> 
> raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines 
>     pII_mmx   :    74.676 MB/sec  p5_mmx    :    72.771 MB/sec 
>     8regs     :    91.821 MB/sec 
>     32regs    :    37.719 MB/sec 
> using fastest function: 8regs (91.821 MB/sec) 
> 
> 1/10th performance? Ugh! 
> 
> 3) I wrote a program that allocates a huge chunk of memory (16/64/96
> MB), and fills it with zeroes sixteen times. This program is always
> twice as fast on the P-II than the Athlon according to the 'time'
> command. 
> 
> On both machines I've had to manually put append="mem=xxxM" in lilo.conf
> else neither machine recognises anything more than 64MB RAM.

hi,
to 1.) i don't think it's an Athlon-related prob. i have an Athlon 700 sitting in an 
Asus K7M with 128mb.
a "hdparm -T /dev/hda" returns 129.29 MB/sec.
did you try a "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda", or adding some fancy options to increase 
performance??
to 2.) no clue
to 3.) send me your self-written app + instructions on deadling with it and I'll give 
you my results. it depends 
on your bios' settings whether sees the full amount of RAM or not. with the Asus K7M i 
have to 
add "mem=xxxM" too, but my previous machine recognized all RAM instantly.
cheers,
rude


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SUSE Linux is missing CU & KSH
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:11:43 GMT

Never mind, I just located ksh under pdksh which stands for public
domain ksh.

CU was under uucp tools, I should realized that.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: parport setup failed
Date: 31 Jul 2000 14:21:50 +0900

Hi all.

I set up parport module to print out for parallel port printer.

I linked parport module statically with printer support on menu config.
So I could get /proc/parport/0/hardware output like this.

base:   0x378
irq:    none
dma:    none
modes:  SPP,PS2

After then I typed "/usr/sbin/tunelp /dev/lp -s" and I got message 

  /dev/lp0: No such device

As you guess,/usr/sbin/printtool command could not find any parallel port 
interface.
I alse tried to give some lilo.conf option parameter when kernel boot.

parport=auto

But it didn't work.


Any idea ?

Thanks in advance.

Go Hosohara
Tokyo Japan
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing software in Linux.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 22:35:21 -0700

A common problem is that the web browser thinks a *.rpm is a real player
application and tries to play a sound.
For Netscape (I think it also works with Internet Explorer), right click on the
*.rpm file and it should download to your machine.

Rob Sturgess wrote:

> Hello friendly linux group!
>
> I've recently installed linux on my PC, on a spare hard drive ; but it's
> only got 400 Mb. No problem , I thought, because linux knows how to read and
> write to the Windows drive. But even when I use RPM, I never get asked where
> I want the program to be installed to. I'm sure there must be a way to plonk
> linux stuff onto my FAT32 system; but how ?
>
> Should I learn to do my installs manally instead ???
>
> Rob Sturgess.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Samba password validation problem
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:33:10 GMT

In article <8m31a5$sjv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Ross Levis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have a NT 4.0 primary server.
> Can someone please explain why Windows 98 users cannot browse a Samba
server
> unless a user account of the same name (as NT login) exists on the
Linux
> server?  NT workstation users don't have this limitation.
>
> The smb.log shows WinNT users logging in as "nobody" (as all users
should)
> but for Win98 it shows only an attempt to login as the NT server login
name.
> According to everything I read, the IPC$ share is always accessed via
the
> guest account which defaults to "nobody".  "nobody" is setup as a
valid
> linux and samba account.
>
> I have managed to get around the problem by specifying "map to guest =
bad
> user" but why do I need this?
>
> Any ideas anyone?
>
> Thanks,
> Ross Levis.
>
>

my understanding is that win9x sends the user you're logged in with,
as user to such transactions.
(goes for connecting to nt-server as well),
while nt allows you to specify another user
(see this connect network drive dialog, its different).

but if your smb-share is specified as public
(means everyone can access it)
that should not matter.

you have any 'valid users = ......' or something like that
in your smb.config?

btw, i cant really see the isuue here,
you need to login to win9x with your ntuser anyway,
to be authenticated on your winnt-server.
if that configuration works, whats the deal?



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'...' said the joker to the thief
'there's too much confusion, i cant get no relief...
so let us not talk falsely now, the hour's getting late'
(robert zimmermann)


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From: Guy White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to receive multiple email for multiple users concurrently
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:40:47 GMT

wisham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> 1) how can I use crontab ( or whatever  sripts ) to enable fetcmail to
> retrieve all the users  email and then  send it to the user mailbox .
> Then Win95/98 user can retrieve their e-mail  from the Linux box

Set up a crontab and .fetchmailrc for root. Call procmail in .fetchmailrc
to deliver for all users (mda 'procmail -d $USER'). Create crontabs with 'crontab -e 
root'.


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From: "rude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mpeg for linux
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:05:21 +0100

Im Artikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb system
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi any good mpeg playser to recommend for RedHat
> 
according to my own experience, "mtv" is the fastest one, but is commercial...


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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:27:11 -0700

John Hasler wrote:
> 
> Alex writes:
> > Why I bash Slashdot?
> 
> Because you get some sort of twisted pleasure out of it, I presume.  You
> certainly aren't enlightening anyone by doing so.
> 
No. In a way, I'm just ranting. And I don't troll. I'm a fly-fisherman,
mainly fishing for steelheads and rainbow trouts in rapid waters, so,
got to be pretty precise with fly casting. Trolling is boring, and you
can't troll with fly rod. ;-)

And I don't think I've the power, or charisma to enlighten anybody. But
I do see things from both sides. I'm both a T-shirt, Swatch watch and
jeans guy as well as all suited up in Armani, Cartier and Gucci. :P

But I think there're really a lot of blind faith followers/groupies of
Slashdot.
And one of the tactics that they use is to gang up on any web sites that
oppose their 
gospel, and have a bunch of groupies to access that web site at once,
they call it "the Slashdot Effect.", but in fact they're trying to
create a DoS. What a bunch of childish loonies losers!

> > Because Slashdot is advocating a lot of unethical stuff by twisting the
> > real definition of Freedom of Speech; and its point men Jon Katz and Del
> > Taco are super hypocrites in my book.
> 
> I wouldn't know: I don't read Slashdot.  I find reading anything on the Web
> awkward and inconvenient and use it only when I need to.  I don't need
> Slashdot, and I need your attacks on it even less.
> 
Well. Sometimes, you can find some useful info out from it, after you
wadded through all the rubbish.

> > And the GNU-GPL is what exactly what keeps a lot of big corp away from
> > using Linux.
> 
> I doubt that, but if true, so what?  Why should I condition my choice of
> license on the preferences of a pack of "Chief Information Officers" who
> think sticking some VB in a Word doc is programming?
> 
No. I don't care about VB or any programming language. As long as it can
get the job done in an efficient way. (no. I don't do visual
anything...)

In fact, my coding is very terrifying indeed. My Frankenstein style of
coding will even scare Jason from Friday the 13th away... :-)

In fact. I enjoy more reading something like Camelot, The War of the
Roses, Olson Wells, Mark Twins, Tennessee Williams; or going to a good
jazz concert, a modern dance, a ballet performance,  or looking at
Salvador Deli's paintings, or photographs by Richard Avadon, W. Eugene
Smith in art galleries, and so on, more than reading any tech stuff, or
go to tech trade shows. 

No. The choice of licensing might not be of any importance to some, but
to those who wants to make a living out of it, then, it's very
important, muy importante to them, and if you look at anything that are
GNU-GPLed, you'll see the line "... not accountable for any
damage...blah , blah, blah..."

That may be fine with some private end users, but in the real business
world, accountability is everything. They'll pass even if you have the
best stuff out, if nobody can be taken account for, if something goes
wrong.
 
> > I want Linux and *BSD to success. But in the money circle.
> 
> Linux is a succes, but I see no reason why it has to be "in the money
> circle".
> 
Yes, Linux *IS* a success, but mainly in the academia and geeks circle.

I admire the volunteer's effort of the Linux and BSD communities; but
sooner or later, those developers will realize that they cannot do it
for free forever.

Go ask Alan Cox and see if he'll keep on coding the kernel if he won't
get a decent pay cheque anymore. 

All the big names in the GNU-GPL circle are all working for big
corporations. 

After all. It's money that makes the world goes round. ;-)

Yeah. Money is not everything.  But money is not anyone of us mortal
soul can live without.

> > Why would they want to give RHat a fat support contract when they can
> > have plenty of supports, who understand the local culture, language and
> > business need for less!!!???
> 
> Beats me.  Perhaps someday everyone will get OS's on $2.00 Cheap Bytes CD's
> and purchase support locally.  I would like that just fine.  Why should I
> object if the coming changes in the software economy fail to create any new
> billionaires?
> 
As far as I can see. All the distros, including the die-hard Debian. Are
out exploiting the GNU-GPL. They're making the profits by repackaging
the free stuff put out by volunteers, who have put out their work under
GNU-GPL.

I don't think that's fair to the developers. And the way the GNU-GPL is
written that, you either have to give up everything to your claims, or
don't play the Linux game at all. But never mind if somebody repackage
your work and make a hugh profit out from your free work, where you no
longer has any rights to.

> > RHat's ventures into the Asia market is highly risky.  If not downright
> > hopeless.
> 
> Whatever.  I own no Red Hat stock, so I see no need to follow the company.

I don't either. But I'm just interested in this opensource movement.

Alex / blowfish.

> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin

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hands,
  lives a very boring and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  Simplicity rules. That's why I use Easy Edit (ee).

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From: Marco Baiocco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: e2fsck problem
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:37:49 +0200

On 27 Jul 2000 21:59:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:09:32 +0200, Marco Baiocco wrote:
>> It has always run fine till now, and it still does, but
>>today I have noticed a small warning during the boot messages.
>>It says something like the checking time has arrived, and that it
>>should be wise to run e2fsck on the linux partitions. It has nothing
>>to do with the maximal mount count, though, because it was written
>>before, during and after the "forced check" due to the mount count.
>>But then the warning still popped out. What should I do to convince
>>linux I'm a good guy and I regularly check my filesystems, and that I
>>just checked them?
>
>This is a bit odd, since an fsck should set the "time since last check"
>field appropriately.  Anyway, you can disable the message by entering
>"tune2fs -i 0 /dev/hdXY" when that particular partition is mounted
>read-only.  Have a look at the man page for tune2fs as well....
Ok, finally I got it to work properly. I'm posting the solution 'cause I
thought it might be interesting for you to know. It turned out that I have
to different version of RH 6.2, shipped with two different magazines. I
installed one at first, but then when I wanted to use disk druid to
repartition the hard disk (I prefer the Win program Pmagic, but the vfat
partition was damaged) I put the other RH 6.2 version in. Yeah, same
version, but different packet in! The "original" kernel was 2.2.14-5.0,
while the other was 2.2.14-12; since it went through the "update" of
packets it installed this new kernel and also some other packet, which I
believe were different in version too. I saw also the fsck packet being
installed. At the reboot, everything went well, working as it should.
Except for this... what? I wouldn't say it's a bug... A feature? :) It's an
incompatibility between two program, perhaps... Well, re-updating with the
other linux cd I have solved the problem: now it's all back to normality.
Anyway, thank you very much for the time you dedicated to me.

Bye
Marco
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
/\\arco

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 07:06:36 GMT

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

<snip>
> As far as I can see. All the distros, including the die-hard Debian. Are
> out exploiting the GNU-GPL. They're making the profits by repackaging
> the free stuff put out by volunteers, who have put out their work under
> GNU-GPL.
> 
> I don't think that's fair to the developers. And the way the GNU-GPL is
> written that, you either have to give up everything to your claims, or
> don't play the Linux game at all. But never mind if somebody repackage
> your work and make a hugh profit out from your free work, where you no
> longer has any rights to.
<snip>

I think most developers GPL their software because they want to rather
than because they are forced to. The only time they are compelled to
is if they lift code from another GPL'd program or use a GPL'd
library.  All the other times, the developer choose to make it GPL,
they were quite aware that others will profit from it.

Sure, the GPL restricts the conditions in which you can use the source
code but then again, when is the last time Microsoft let you take
chunks of their source code with no strings attached?

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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