Linux-Setup Digest #282, Volume #19              Mon, 31 Jul 00 00:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400? (root)
  Re: help needed with a pcmpci modem (David Efflandt)
  Re: help with CRON Q (David Efflandt)
  Re: Help!!!! Home-Network-mini-HOWTO (Chuck)
  Re: Help!!!! Home-Network-mini-HOWTO (Chuck)
  Re: RH 6.2 network install excruciatingly painful ("Peter Panagakos")
  Re: Routing-- What have I done wrong? ("Peter Panagakos")
  Re: how to boot multiple drives with lilo (David Efflandt)
  Re: Newbie Question- Kernel weird probs (David Efflandt)
  Re: RedHat 6.2 Soundcard, Modem Confilct (James Richard Tyrer)

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:28:34 +0000


I recently replaced a slightly dated motherboard with an Athlon 650 and
K7M motherboard and a new 128MB DIMM. Running RedHat 6.2. 

I'm a little frustrated with performance. Memory access is roughly half
the speed of another machine (dual P-II/400 on ASUS P2B-DS 256MB). 

I don't really notice the performance difference until I do anything,
meaning I can boot, log in, and everything works fine... it's just a
slow pig when I want to push the machine and make it do anything
significant. 

Any ideas? I assume that this is a hardware issue, not a setup issue,
but I've been wrong before. 

---
Rambling symptoms:

I've noticed this through several indicators:

0) VMWare (latest download) crawls (to the point of being useless) on
the Athlon and is perfectly usable on the P-II. 

1) hdparm -T /dev/hda 
P-II: ~108MB/s 
Athon: ~48MB/s

2) Boot-up RAID 5 test:
P-II:

raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines 
    pII_mmx   :   872.871 MB/sec 
    p5_mmx    :   925.068 MB/sec 
    8regs     :   689.229 MB/sec 
    32regs    :   377.571 MB/sec 
using fastest function: p5_mmx (925.068 MB/sec) 

Athon:

raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines 
    pII_mmx   :    74.676 MB/sec 
    p5_mmx    :    72.771 MB/sec 
    8regs     :    91.821 MB/sec 
    32regs    :    37.719 MB/sec 
using fastest function: 8regs (91.821 MB/sec) 

1/10th performance? Ugh! 

3) I wrote a program that allocates a huge chunk of memory (16/64/96
MB), and fills it with zeroes sixteen times. This program is always
twice as fast on the P-II than the Athlon according to the 'time'
command. 

On both machines I've had to manually put append="mem=xxxM" in lilo.conf
else neither machine recognises anything more than 64MB RAM.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: help needed with a pcmpci modem
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:47:01 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 12:36:45 GMT, michele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to install Linux on my Dell Latitude CPx laptop.
>Everything is fine except that I can't get the modem to work.
>The modem is a "RealPort 2 CardBus Modem 56 Win-GlobalACCESS"
>and when the pcmpci support gets loaded during the boot the modem
>gets locked up (red light on and "modem is busy" message from
>kppp if you try to use it).
>
>Any idea about how to set it up?
> Thanks in advance for your time
>  Michele

Make sure that your pcmcia-cs is version 3.1.10 or newer.  Older versions
do not set modem irq properly with newer kernels (something is different
in the serial configuration).

Make sure that there are no irq conflicts and lock out any possible
conflicting irqs in /etc/pcmcia/config.opts.

If you have an older pcmcia version you could try temporarily setting the
irq to zero with setserial and then possibly back to what cardmgr set it
to originally.  If that does not work, try setting irq 0 with setserial
and leave it there until you have a chance to upgrade pcmcia-cs.  Speed
will be slower with irq 0 (V.34 speed on V.90 connection).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: help with CRON Q
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:58:57 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 11:21:18 -0400, jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I'm a newb with CRON.  Can I have a script that runs on the hour and
>another script that runs on the middle of every hour(10:30 11:30
>12:30)?  specifically I want a job to start a modem and get the mail(on
>the hour), but sometimes the modem hangs so I wrote a script that kills
>the modem(every 1 hour at X:30).  Can you show me an example CRON script
>that
>would do this?  IF you can't do this could you give me some othern ideas
>with examples?  Thank you.
>Jason Toy
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://toy.eyep.net

Once you have read 'man 5 crontab' you might want to take a look at the
demand pppd option.  Then you can simply run any command that needs to
access the internet to fire it up.  I have not tried it with dynamic IP,
but I imagine doing a single ping first (ping -c1 something) should bring
it up and work even if your IP changes. I have some info on demand pppd at
http://www.de-srv.com/linux/

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From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help!!!! Home-Network-mini-HOWTO
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:47:58 GMT


>
> This is absolutely necessary AFAIK. Did you build your own kernel? If
> so, you need to go back through the config and add the right options
for
> masquerading. (Don't have them off the top of my head.) If not
something
> is fubar.
>
> --
> Hal B
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
>

Excellent -- I thought I had them all, but I had missed something in
the Masquerading help.  Once I installed sysctl support and tweaked my
ipchains commands it finally worked.

Thanks! if you hadn't mentioned it I wouldn't have went digging some
more to tell you what I had installed.

Chuck


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From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help!!!! Home-Network-mini-HOWTO
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 02:50:52 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.setup on Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:31:20 GMT
> Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I tried checking out some different firewalling scripts (for
> >masquerading etc) except that all of the other ones that I have
looked
> >at try to run the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward script.  However, I
> >don't have a /proc/sys directory.  I am not sure if the HOWTO is
doing
> >something different than my other sources, or if I don't have some
> >package installed that I should.
> >
>
> I ignore that bit and do it elsewhere :)
>
> Redhat keeps most of its networking doodads in /etc/sysconfig.
>
> Head over to there, edit the file "network" and  set the
> value of FORWARD_IPV4 to true
>
> restart your networking by
>       /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart
>
> Now run the simplest masquerading:
>       /sbin/ipchains -F forward
>       /sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY
>       /sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQ
>
> where 192.168.1.0/24 matches your own internal network.
>
> Now see if you can get out.
>
> If you can, then time to finetune the firewall - ftp masq proxies and
> such.
>
> Zebee
>
>

Yes, I had the FORWARD_IPV4 set to true, I didn't have sysctl
installed.  Once I installed it, recompiled my kernel and fixed a
couple of mistakes in the firewalling script I was going.

Thanks for the help,

Chuck


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From: "Peter Panagakos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 6.2 network install excruciatingly painful
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:10:02 -0400

Recommendations.... RTFM?? Just maybe.... I've installed RH and Mandrake via
NFS, HTTP, and FTP and never had any problems except when installing from a
windows computer... can't for the life of me tell you what went wrong with
your attempts. Oh, but driver disks are a nice thing to be asked for, just
for the record. If you "don't" need it... try hitting ESC, and the install
goes on. As for Python being the wrong language of choice, make a different
choice for the install, and then build a better one yourself. As for your
complaints, read more, try harder, bitch less.

"Bob Bramwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Rarely have I had so many problems to overcome in trying to install an
> OS, and NEVER have I had so many with any previous version of Linux!  In
> the good old days (a couple of years ago) I put RH 5.0 up on a machine
> using an NFS mounted CD-ROM with no trouble at all.  There was only one
> floppy required for either a local CD-ROM or a network accessible RH
> respository (NFS CD-ROM, FTP site, whatever).  But apparently this was
> Too Easy so by 6.2 things have got considerably more complex.
>
> 1. Now I have to notice ahead of time that the floppy I am holding won't
> do a network install.  That's a separate floppy image.  Sigh: so I make
> a new floppy.
>
> 2. Almost immediately I start the install I am asked to put in a
> "driver" disk.  What the hell?  I'm not using a SCSI adapter or anything
> else exotic, so what's this for?  Sigh.  Look in the images/drivers
> directory and find several cryptically named images and nothing to help
> me decide which is which.  SIGH.  Make several more floppies and try
> them all.
>
> 3. Manage to NFS mount the CD-ROM from a SUN Solaris 2.5.1 system.
> Grind through the install, wait a while and get told that there is "too
> little space on /mnt/source".  NOW what?  THAT'S the NFS CD-ROM!  Why do
> I need *ANY* space on it?  This USED to work!
>
> 4. Set up anonymous FTP service and try that route.  Get some sort of
> weird traceback from "Anaconda" (whatever the hell THAT is) in what
> looks like Python.  Oh no.  You didn't rewrite the frigging installation
> in PYTHON, did you?  It's no wonder it's so slow.  It's no wonder it
> requires several floppies.  It's no wonder it's got bugs.  I mean,
> anything you write in Python will do *something*; it's just hardly ever
> what you had in mind.  Oh god.
>
> 5. Download latest version of network boot image from RedHat mirror.
> Blow it onto a floppy.  Try again.  "Too little space on /mnt/source".
> God's teeth!
>
> 6. Try FTP installation again:  it works!  Oh boy!  And after only 6
> hours of continuous effort!  Install LILO in MBR and make boot floppy -
> Just In Case.
>
> 7. Reboot from hard disk.  Get "LI" on the screen before the machine
> freezes.  Repeatable.  Good thing I made that boot floppy, which works
> just fine.  System comes up.  (BTW: installing LILO in the "first
> sector" on another identical machine worked just fine.)
>
> 8. System cannot configure the network card, although it didn't have any
> trouble during the installation; one of the FEW things it didn't have
> trouble with.  Oh, the "alias eth0 ..." is missing from conf.modules.
> Well, *that's* intuitively obvious.
>
>
> TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:  this stinks.
>
> If it's any consolation an attempt to install Mandrake 7.0 from an NFS
> drive failed in equally spectacular ways, but I didn't beat my head
> against it quite so hard.
>
> Can anyone recommend a Linux variety that one can install rather more
> conveniently?  Or possibly a good psychiatrist?  Life is too short for
> this sort of BS.
>
> --
> Bob Bramwell    Snail:  60 Baker Cr. NW |   Remember:
> ProntoLogical           Calgary, AB     |   You can't have everything:
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From: "Peter Panagakos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Routing-- What have I done wrong?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:16:05 -0400

Looks like your forwarding rule might be wrong (I assume you cut and paste).
Would work fine if the CIDR was /16. But otherwise the source should read
192.168.1.0/24.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8lvj22$tvv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm trying to set up a router for my cable modem so I can have a
> firewall. I am using RH 6.1 kernel 2.2.12 for the router (will upgrade
> when/if I get this working), and a win98 box as the protected host.
>
> One NIC is a 3c905C, the other is an Intel e100. Both use linux drivers
> provided by the manufacturer.
>
> Computer is a P-100 w/ 16 MB RAM 1 GB disk space.
>
> The IP numbers involved are
> 198.168.1.2 (protected host)
> 198.168.1.1 (gateway eth0)
> 24.15.176.164 (gateway eth1)
> 24.15.176.1 (outer gateway, ISP)
>
> I have followed all the directions I can find, and everything
> ****SEEMS**** to be configured correctly. However, while I can ping the
> eth0 gateway from the protected host, and even the eth1 gateway from the
> protected host, I cannot ping to an outside host. The gateway can ping
> out to the world, so it seems to be hooked up correctly.
>
> Tracerts reveal that traffic is getting to the interior gateway but no
> farther.
>
> What have I done wrong???
>
> Configuration/screen outputs follow:
>
> IFCONFIG:
>
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:D0:B7:85:C0:B7
>           inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:89 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:75 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>           Interrupt:11 Base address:0xff00 Memory:c181f000-c181f900
>
> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:01:02:37:9E:7F
>           inet addr:24.15.176.164  Bcast:24.15.176.255
> Mask:255.255.255.0
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>           Interrupt:9 Base address:0xfc80
>
> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>
> --------------------------
>
> NETWORK file:
>
> NETWORKING="yes"
> FORWARD_IPV4="yes"
> HOSTNAME="amcg"
> GATEWAY="24.15.176.1"
> GATEWAYDEV="eth1"
> NISDOMAIN=" "
> IPX="no"
>
> ------------------------
>
> route -n
>
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination   Gateway   Genmask         Flags MetricUse Iface
> 192.168.1.1   0.0.0.0   255.255.255.255 UH    0 0 0 eth0
> 24.15.176.164 0.0.0.0   255.255.255.255 UH    0 0 0 eth1
> 192.168.1.0   0.0.0.0   255.255.255.0   U     0 0 0 eth0
> 24.15.176.0   0.0.0.0   255.255.255.0   U     0 0 0 eth1
> 127.0.0.0     0.0.0.0   255.0.0.0       U     0 0 0 lo
> 0.0.0.0       24.15.176.1 0.0.0.0         UG    0 0 0 eth1
>
> --------------------------------
> (the last line is DEFAULT GATEWAY)
>
>
> ifcfg-eth0:
>
> DEVICE="eth0"
> IPADDR="192.168.1.1"
> NETMASK="255.255.255.0"
> ONBOOT="yes"
> BOOTPROTO="none"
> IPXNETNUM_802_2=""
> IPXPRIMARY_802_2="no"
> IPXACTIVE_802_2="no"
> IPXNETNUM_802_3=""
> IPXPRIMARY_802_3="no"
> IPXACTIVE_802_3="no"
> IPXNETNUM_ETHERII=""
> IPXPRIMARY_ETHERII="no"
> IPXACTIVE_ETHERII="no"
> IPXNETNUM_SNAP=""
> IPXPRIMARY_SNAP="no"
> IPXACTIVE_SNAP="no"
>
> ----------------------------
>
> ifcfg-eth1
>
> DEVICE="eth1"
> IPADDR="24.15.176.164"
> NETMASK="255.255.255.0"
> ONBOOT="yes"
> BOOTPROTO="none"
> IPXNETNUM_802_2=""
> IPXPRIMARY_802_2="no"
> IPXACTIVE_802_2="no"
> IPXNETNUM_802_3=""
> IPXPRIMARY_802_3="no"
> IPXACTIVE_802_3="no"
> IPXNETNUM_ETHERII=""
> IPXPRIMARY_ETHERII="no"
> IPXACTIVE_ETHERII="no"
> IPXNETNUM_SNAP=""
> IPXPRIMARY_SNAP="no"
> IPXACTIVE_SNAP="no"
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> IPCHAINS -L:
>
> Chain input (policy ACCEPT):
> Chain forward (policy DENY):
> target prot opt     source          destination          ports
> MASQ   all  ------  192.168.0.0/24  anywhere              n/a
> Chain output (policy ACCEPT):
>
> Let me know if you need anything else. Thanks in advance for any help
> you can give!
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: how to boot multiple drives with lilo
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 03:29:49 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, xyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I posted the following to comp.os.linux.help a few days back to
>no response, does anyone here have any pointers?  Thank!
>
>---
>
>Hi all, I have two hard drives in my computer, each with a
>complete install of redhat (I am moving my stuff over to a new
>bigger disk, but want to keep my old linux drive intact until
>I've comfortably moved into the new space). I can't figure out
>from the lilo.conf man pages how to configure lilo to boot a
>linux install that is on a diferent drive than the master boot
>record is on (ie boot the linux partition on my second master
>drive). Can someone send me an example lilo.conf or explain to
>me how to do this? Thanks!
>-Josh

2 ways to go about this, mounting each vmlinuz on the current system
before running 'lilo', or setting up a LILO for each and chaining them.

First method is to mount the boot or root partition of the second drive
and point lilo to the mounted location of vmlinuz there for booting that
distro.  It does not matter that the mounted location will not exist when
LILO is booting, because LILO keeps track of the actual physical location
of that vmlinuz (at least that worked for me booting different kernel
versions of Slackware and RedHat from the same LILO).

Note that you may have to use the above method before you can do the below
method (along with revised /etc/fstab for each) if you relocate drives and
the other LILO's are not correct yet for the relocated drives.

A more flexible solution is to have LILO on a partition for each distro,
then you can simply point to the other LILO as 'other' and chain the
LILO's together.  This way you do not have to mount the other boot or root
when running lilo.

This is an example of that method, using mandrake LILO on hda2 /boot
partition (instead of MBR) to boot to Mandrake on hda9, another LILO on
hda1 for an experimental RedHat, another LILO on hdc2 for my current
working RedHat or Win98se on hda3.  I have to change the boot drive in
CMOS to boot Win95 on hdb (LILO cannot do that):

boot=/dev/hda2
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
vga=normal
default=linuxc
keytable=/boot/us.klt
prompt
timeout=50
message=/boot/message
image=/boot/vmlinuz
        label=linux
        root=/dev/hda9
        append=""
        read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-15mdk
        label=old_linux
        root=/dev/hda9
        append=""
        read-only
other=/dev/hda1
        label=linuxrh
other=/dev/hda3
        label=windows
        table=/dev/hda
other=/dev/hdc2
        label=linuxc
other=/dev/fd0
        label=floppy
        unsafe

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Newbie Question- Kernel weird probs
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 03:52:07 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, albert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here's the thing:
>If I boot the system (dual boot: win98/linux) for the first time, linux runs
>ok, goes to prompt and I can go right on. BUT if I do a restart, do
>something on windows, and then restart to enter Linux... It hangs on the
>line: PII. hda.... whatever. I don't understand why, but my guess is that
>since my HD is about 8.4Gb and linux is in the 4th partition (logical), LILO
>must be failing somehow. Anyway, I tought at first that it was a Kernel
>prob, so I tried to compile one for myself using some notes I took from here
>and there. Results: Crash and Burn. I did everything 'by the book' and It
>failed, resulting in reinstallation of linux. I'm out ofd answers for this
>and I need expert help, can some guro out there give sompe directions ?

As long as your 8.4G drive is translated to not more than 1024 cylinders
you should not be hitting the 1024 cyl limit, but if your drive was any
bigger you would be.

So my guess is that you are trying to warm boot from Windows into Linux
and Windows is leaving some hardware in an unusual state.  Try shutting
down Windows and then the 3 fingered solute (Ctrl-Alt-Del) or reset.  If
that does not work, does Linux work from a cold boot?

If you used anything other than Linux to do the Linux partitions, maybe
Windows is not aware that it should not touch them.  A listing of your
partition table from Linux fdisk might be helpful.

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From: James Richard Tyrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.2 Soundcard, Modem Confilct
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 03:57:03 GMT

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David Stackis wrote:

> I have installed RedHat 6.2...using the KDE workstation option...it's great
> and all except for one little thing...
>
> Seems I can configure my modem using the KPPP tool, and I can connect to the
> internet and all....
>
> I can also run sndconfig from a console, and get my SoundBlaster AWE64
> working....the thing is, is after I configure my soundcard, my modem will
> not work anymore...I get the message "The modem is busy"
>
> I have tried to configure the soundcard first, but then I cannot configure
> the modem...which by the way is a US Robotics 56K V90 Internal.
>
> My modem is on COM1.....dev/ttyS0
> My soundcard is on COM2.....dev/tty/S1
>
> Has anyone else experienced this before, and know a way to make both pieces
> of hardware work together in harmony...
>
> TIA!
> David Stackis
>
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You didn't say if your modem was ISA or PCI.  Please advise.

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