Linux-Setup Digest #285, Volume #19 Mon, 31 Jul 00 11:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Possible display problem during installation of RH6.2 on a notebook (Peter Chen)
Re: Gnome or KDE (Kenneth R�rvik)
Re: LILO probs having deleted /boot.... ("Iain C")
Re: RH6.2 install on Sony Vaio PCGZ505JS SuperSlim (Ade Talabi)
Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down (Kenneth
R�rvik)
Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down (Kenneth
R�rvik)
Which Linux is best for Apache web server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to set hardware time correctly from shell? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: user user mailbox doesn't exist; how do I create? (Tim Hammerquist)
X freezes after starting (Warwick)
NDC is gone ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: NDC is gone ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
xmms setup (system)
Re: RH6.2 install on Sony Vaio PCGZ505JS SuperSlim (John Waldron)
Re: Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400? (Jonathan)
Re: Gnome or KDE (Tim Haynes)
Re: Hosed install. Techs messed up. Moving /usr? (Clayton Roland Carter)
Re: Automounter (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gwenol=E9?= JOLIF)
Soundcard/Modem confilcit in RedHat 6.2 ("David Stackis")
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From: Peter Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Possible display problem during installation of RH6.2 on a notebook
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 23:17:12 +1000
When I'm installing RH6.2 on my Mitac Notebook, the setup would proceed
to the language selection and after English is selected, the screen will
suddenly blank out with around 8-10 vertical blue lines running across
the screen. I suspect that the setup has not froze, because hitting the
F12 key would trigger some CDROM activity (I'm installing from CD), but
nothing would show up on the screen... And I've tried graphical, text,
expert modes and none of them will get pass through the language
selection.
The Mitac notebook spec is:
AMD K6-2 333
430TX
Trident 96XX/938XX 2MB
64MB RAM
If anyone knows how to solve the problem, it'll be greatly appreciated.
Peter
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Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:10:43 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Schneider, Ph. D.) wrote in
<oHeh5.436$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>X-Windows is nice to play around with, but it is much too easy to damage
>Gnome with an "accidental" keystroke or mouse movement. If Linux people
>are really serious about competing, there would be a movement to write
>setup programs that allow users to choose applications and menus without
>the nuisance of direct editing.
You mean like... kdm? Depending on distro of course, Mdk, for instance,
sets up kdm to let you choose any of several WMs when logging in.
And KDE, Gnome and Enlightenment all provide easy graphical interfaces for
setting up menus and starting apps without "direct editing".
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From: "Iain C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO probs having deleted /boot....
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:19:28 +0100
Ahhh.... Thanks a lot :)
"Villy Kruse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> boot.b IS the lilo loader. The first 512 bytes of that file is copied
> to the boot sector after the sector addresses of the rest of boot.b
> has been patched into it.
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From: Ade Talabi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: RH6.2 install on Sony Vaio PCGZ505JS SuperSlim
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:32:48 +0100
John Waldron wrote:
>
> I am trying to install RedHat 6.2 dual boot with Win98SE. My new laptop
> has a PCMCIA adapter for the a CD-ROM (PCGA-CD51). Does anyone out
> there have a Linux driver for this CD-ROM? Can anyone tell me how to
> get around this problem. I have a 12 GB drive. 8 GB is for Win and 4
> is for Linux. I could copy the the RH disks onto the drive, but after
> that, I will need to use the CD-ROM. A driver or a workaround will be a
> must. Thanks.
>
> John Waldron
Copy the CD onto your hard-drive and intsall it from there.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:34:18 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> b) The second issue is a minor detail. When 'halt' is commanded,
>everything is done all right except the last step, namely, actually
>powering down the machine. I don't know why because the BIOS does
>support the programmed power down and the previous kernel (2.2.14) did
>power down the machine.
Enable "Use real mode APM bios call to power off" in your kernel config,
and you should be OK :)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: [Help] Setting up 2.2.16: Problems with modules symbols and power down
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth R�rvik)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:36:56 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>generate that file? I have set on the three options for "Loadable module
>support", namely: "Enable loadable module support", "Set version
>information in all symbols for modules", and "Kernel module loader".
>Then make dep, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install.
You should run "make clean" before "make bzImage" :) Although this will
probably not remove the unresolved symbol messages.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Which Linux is best for Apache web server
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:28:32 GMT
I want to set up a web server using Apache. Which version of Linux is the
best one to use for this purpose?
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: How to set hardware time correctly from shell?
Date: 31 Jul 2000 09:36:07 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt) writes:
> On 28 Jul 2000 10:31:00 -0700, Charlie Zender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Thanks, rdate works as advertised and is much simpler to use than
> >hwclock for my purposes.
set hardware time to zulu.
> You should still use hwclock (or setclock in RedHat) to set the hardware
> clock/calendar so it will be correct when you reboot to that other
> OS.
this is a losing battle. microsoft doesn't know how to keep time.
they try to adjust the hardware clock for daylight savings. if you
have two operating systems trying to play this game you can easily see
how losing it really is. i let windows think i live in greenwich
england without daylight savings time.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Hammerquist)
Subject: Re: user user mailbox doesn't exist; how do I create?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:41:36 GMT
On 31 Jul 2000 08:39:54 GMT, Villy Kruse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 10:43:55 GMT,
> Tim Hammerquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >Thanx! I did that (for root and my main username) and it works great!
> >
> >I only have three users on my Mandrake 7.0 installation:
> > root created by installation program
> > mine created by installation program (@ my request)
> > schmoe created by linuxconf
> >
> >None of these users have a mail box under /var/spool/mail/ (or anywhere
> >else for that matter). I followed your advice above and it works
> >beautifully. I knew it had to be simple. Thanks again!
> >
> >Now I'll try to figure out why it's not created with each new user. =)
>
> I have yet to see any unix or linux system where the user's mailbox is
> not created the first time someone sends some mail to it. So you send
> some mail to schmoe and the mailbox file will spring into existense.
...and you're probably right on all counts. The problem is most likely
ignorance on my part as to setup procedure.
I'd gladly accept any
pointers to reference material. Dead trees are preferable, but
online/downloadable are all equally valuable.
TIA,
--
-Tim Hammerquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I know I can quit smoking because I've done it a thousand times.
-- Mark Twain
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:12:55 +1000
From: Warwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X freezes after starting
I've just upgraded my Motherboard and CPU and Graphics Adapter, I've
done a fresh install of Redhat 6.1 and all seemed fine till I started X
windows which locks up upon touching the keyboard or mouse. I've rerun
Xconfigurator and mouseconfig, no joy. I'm not sure if this is a problem
with X-11 or Gnome/Enlightenment. Anyone have any suggestions, they
would be much appreciated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NDC is gone
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:55:29 GMT
I have just recently upgraded to the latest bind
8.2.2_P5-9. After upgrading it seems that i can
no longer use the ndc function at all. When i
type ndc start, ndc stop or any other variation
the line just sits there and does nothing. I
don't get another prompt to type anything else,
there is no response. I have to hit control c
just to get back to a prompt to continuing
getting frustrated with this box. Please help.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NDC is gone
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:00:08 GMT
In article <8m40gf$rmq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have just recently upgraded to the latest bind
> 8.2.2_P5-9. After upgrading it seems that i can
> no longer use the ndc function at all. When i
> type ndc start, ndc stop or any other variation
> the line just sits there and does nothing. I
> don't get another prompt to type anything else,
> there is no response. I have to hit control c
> just to get back to a prompt to continuing
> getting frustrated with this box. Please help.
>
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> Before you buy.
> I just noticed as I was getting back to my linux box that it
eventually gives me a response of "ndc: error: name server has not
started (yet?)"
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From: system <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xmms setup
Date: 31 Jul 2000 22:21:52 +0800
[root@tuteee /root]# xmms
Can't resolve host name "unix"!
Can't resolve host name "unix"!
Any idea how to solve this problem.
--
Paul Wong Peng Kai
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From: John Waldron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: RH6.2 install on Sony Vaio PCGZ505JS SuperSlim
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:28:58 GMT
I am unable to copy it because RedHat has some filenames that windows does not
like. "<translation table>" is unacceptable to windows. Should I try to copy
everything accept the <translation table> files? Thanks.
John
Ade Talabi wrote:
> John Waldron wrote:
> >
> > I am trying to install RedHat 6.2 dual boot with Win98SE. My new laptop
> > has a PCMCIA adapter for the a CD-ROM (PCGA-CD51). Does anyone out
> > there have a Linux driver for this CD-ROM? Can anyone tell me how to
> > get around this problem. I have a 12 GB drive. 8 GB is for Win and 4
> > is for Linux. I could copy the the RH disks onto the drive, but after
> > that, I will need to use the CD-ROM. A driver or a workaround will be a
> > must. Thanks.
> >
> > John Waldron
> Copy the CD onto your hard-drive and intsall it from there.
>
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From: Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Why is Athon 650 slower than P-II/400?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:18:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Uh.... Mebbe I'm smokin crack again, but I don't think it'd be really
fair
> to compare a dual-proceesing P-II-400 to a single Athlon.... First
off, the
> dual processors are going to push all IO faster. That will affect
memory
> access, hard drive access, etc.
>
> Second, unless you've got both motherboards BIOS' set up identical (or
as
> close as possible) you're going to see performance differences anyway.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> -SSB
>
> root wrote:
>
> > I recently replaced a slightly dated motherboard with an Athlon 650
and
> > K7M motherboard and a new 128MB DIMM. Running RedHat 6.2.
> >
> > I'm a little frustrated with performance. Memory access is roughly
half
> > the speed of another machine (dual P-II/400 on ASUS P2B-DS 256MB).
> >
> > I don't really notice the performance difference until I do
anything,
> > meaning I can boot, log in, and everything works fine... it's just a
> > slow pig when I want to push the machine and make it do anything
> > significant.
> >
> > Any ideas? I assume that this is a hardware issue, not a setup
issue,
> > but I've been wrong before.
> >
> > ---
> > Rambling symptoms:
> >
> > I've noticed this through several indicators:
> >
> > 0) VMWare (latest download) crawls (to the point of being useless)
on
> > the Athlon and is perfectly usable on the P-II.
> >
> > 1) hdparm -T /dev/hda
> > P-II: ~108MB/s
> > Athon: ~48MB/s
> >
> > 2) Boot-up RAID 5 test:
> > P-II:
> >
> > raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines
> > pII_mmx : 872.871 MB/sec
> > p5_mmx : 925.068 MB/sec
> > 8regs : 689.229 MB/sec
> > 32regs : 377.571 MB/sec
> > using fastest function: p5_mmx (925.068 MB/sec)
> >
> > Athon:
> >
> > raid5: MMX detected, trying high-speed MMX checksum routines
> > pII_mmx : 74.676 MB/sec
> > p5_mmx : 72.771 MB/sec
> > 8regs : 91.821 MB/sec
> > 32regs : 37.719 MB/sec
> > using fastest function: 8regs (91.821 MB/sec)
> >
> > 1/10th performance? Ugh!
> >
> > 3) I wrote a program that allocates a huge chunk of memory (16/64/96
> > MB), and fills it with zeroes sixteen times. This program is always
> > twice as fast on the P-II than the Athlon according to the 'time'
> > command.
> >
> > On both machines I've had to manually put append="mem=xxxM" in
lilo.conf
> > else neither machine recognises anything more than 64MB RAM.
>
>
I was thinking the same thing; plus which a drop from 256 Mb to 128 has
got to impact performance. One thought - is SMP still compiled into the
kernel?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Haynes)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: 31 Jul 2000 15:24:02 +0100
Reply-To: "Tim Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Schneider, Ph. D.) writes:
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:36:45 -0500, OSguy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I am a newbie of Linux and using the SUSE linux 6.3.
> >> I've tried different GUIs.
> >> I think the Gnome and KDE are the best.
> >> So, which one is better? Pls. suggest.
> >
> >Do you know that you can have 2 accounts, 1 running Gnome, and the other
> >running KDE? (I run Gnome on 1 account, Motif on another account, KDE
> >on a 3rd account, and Afterstep on a 4th account....because I can.) Set
> >the accounts up, try both Desktops, and decide which you like.
Or even just run two X servers with e.g. gdm, log in with one setup in one
(ctrl+alt+f7, say) and log in with another setup in t'other (eg with
ctrl+alt+f8). Been there, done that... quite enjoyed it, too...
> X-Windows is nice to play around with, but it is much too easy to damage
> Gnome with an "accidental" keystroke or mouse movement. If Linux people
> are really serious about competing,
What about those of us who don't give a disemboweled pigeon for competing?
I use linux because I like it, because I can configure it, because it's
stable, it does what I want it to do, you name it. But if other OSs want to
set themselves up as "competition", let them lose by all means.
> there would be a movement to write setup programs that allow users to
> choose applications and menus without the nuisance of direct editing.
Setup programs? For goodness' sake, the linux world is still cluttered with
arguing the toss over installers, RH's or Mandrake's (with most of the
press putting Debian in the "Related Companies" box, *spit*).
I'm not interested in "the installer". I want to be able to do what I want
with it *after* installing it - in some cases, developing stuff, installing
more toys, reading Gnus.. in short, it's use not installation, that counts.
~Tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clayton Roland Carter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,iu.linux,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: Hosed install. Techs messed up. Moving /usr?
Date: 31 Jul 2000 14:42:14 GMT
You should probably try to get your money back if they're
really as incompotent as you've hinted at.
Anyway, if you're just wanting to rename files and
directories, use `mv`. For example:
$ ls -F
olddirname/
$ mv olddirname newdirname
$ ls -F
newdirname/
You can also use the `man` or `info` commands to look at the
documentation for other commands, such as `mv`. (eg - `man mv` will
display the manual for `mv`)
That said, I don't really understand what you're trying to
do. Well, I understand up to where you mounted the old D drive as
/home. What happened to the original /home? And why would you mount
the new partition as /usr? That doesn't sound like such a good idea.
If you really want those 6 gigs used for every day stuff, you might as
well just reinstall. Redhat's latest releases make the install rather
painless. Plus, you'll learn a lot more about Linux (which is, I
assume, what you want to do? :) by installing yourself.
--pc
In article <8m1i4h$ok2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Coulter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I let a local PC dealer setup a dual boot linux /win98 machine for me and it
>cost a ton.
>And they really goofed up with druid.
>
>They let a 6 gig area of the disk go uninitialized as they thought it would
>"grow". It turns out that is only at
>install time, not during normal run conditions.
>
>I found out the hard way. Loading Staroffice
>
>So..I zapped the win D drive and made it into a linux partition and mounted
>it first as /home
>because /home is easier and I can do that.
>(I use gnome to rename directories and cannot do that at linux text level)
>
>I got a suggestion to mount instead /usr but /usr has all the xwindows stuff
>and gnome and
>then I cannot change the names of /nusr (the new usr dir) and /usr.
>
>How does one change directory names aside from inside Gnome / properties?
>
>Thanks
>
>This it taking way too long.
>
>
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gwenol=E9?= JOLIF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Automounter
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 16:42:00 +0200
Hello
Which automounter do you use ?
I use autofs.
sylvain hutchison a �crit :
>
> Hi all,
> I've installed REd Hat 6.1 as client on my network at work, I got
> NIS-NFS configured, I now need to get the automounter to work, any ideas
> how??
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Sly.
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From: "David Stackis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Soundcard/Modem confilcit in RedHat 6.2
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 08:09:03 -0700
I have installed RedHat 6.2...using the KDE workstation option...it's great
and all except for one little thing...
Seems I can configure my modem using the KPPP tool, and I can connect to the
internet and all....
I can also run sndconfig from a console, and get my SoundBlaster AWE64
working....the thing is, is after I configure my soundcard, my modem will
not work anymore...I get the message "The modem is busy"
I have tried to configure the soundcard first, but then I cannot configure
the modem...which by the way is a US Robotics 56K V90 Internal.
My modem is on COM1.....dev/ttyS0
Has anyone else experienced this before, and know a way to make both pieces
of hardware work together in harmony...
TIA!
David Stackis
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