Linux-Setup Digest #299, Volume #19 Wed, 2 Aug 00 01:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: PPP server setup (Bill Unruh)
Re: Booting from 1.68MB floppy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Trouble with corel linux -- mouse (justme)
Re: Setting up 2 Completly differrent ppp Internet Accounts (Gordon Weast)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: IRQ'S (Holly)
cucipop and NIS (Conrad Mukai)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: setting up internal LAN (David Efflandt)
Time Jumps + 10 hours - RH 6.2 ("Christopher Burke")
Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released (John Hasler)
Re: Partition Problem (Dennis Lee Bieber)
Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released (blowfish)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: PPP server setup
Date: 2 Aug 2000 02:09:52 GMT
This is nuts, a three line message embedded in 30 lines of other
garbage. Please clean up your headers, sig files etc.
To answer your question-- get and set up mgetty.
(in brief).
Longer.
Install mgetty. Edit /etc/mgetty*/login.config to set up the modem and
serial port
Edit /etc/mgetty*/login.config and set up the AutoPPP line
Set up the /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
Put the mgetty line into /etc/inittab
eg
S1:345:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS1
and do killall -1 init
Longer
To have others connect to your machine, (ie, to have yourself act as an
ISP), use mgetty from http://alpha.greenie.net/mgetty/. Also get the
guide
http://www.swcp.com/~jgentry/dialin2.html to setting up dial in access.
Here, http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/mgetty-point.html are also a number of
links to documentation to getting mgetty up and running (including with
multiple incoming
telephone lines).
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Justin Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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]Read the PPP howto on setup for the PPP server.
]Any condensed writeup on how to do it ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Booting from 1.68MB floppy
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 02:10:27 GMT
Tomsrtbt (http://www.toms.net/rb/) is a 1.722M bootable floppy image.
1680 should be even safer than 1722. 1722 is 21 sectors 82 tracks,
1680 is 21 sectors 80 tracks, the same but it stops at the normal end.
The only problem is if you try to use the 'compact' option to LILO,
it breaks, because that makes it issue a 21-sector-at-once read to
the BIOS, which often/usually chokes. Without 'compact', it will read
one sector at a time, the BIOS supports that up to 21 with no problems.
Again, yes, tomsrtbt is a 1.722M floppy, and is bootable.
-Tom
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: justme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trouble with corel linux -- mouse
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:02:33 -0300
Well, I've tried redhat (my mail never worked, plus I was
hacked, its security is almost nil), slackware (no sound, plus could
not configure my keyboard), mandrake( also no mail, bad keyboard),
plus some oldies...... five months , hundreds of hours of study ...
none worked.
Someone suggested corel. Its supposed to be idiot -proof.So I
converted my 4 Gb second drive (was pure linux) to an extra 2.5 gig
for windows (this has been up over 3000 hours , only crashed once due
to a lilo problem...it deserves the extra gigs ), and reduced the
linux partition to 1,5 Gb
So here are the questions....
a) Where does corel keep the mouse config file ... I've tried
grepping , finding , locating etc... no good. It does not recognize my
"rare" authentic microsoft serial 2 button mouse on com1, irq 4
I've tried manually editing the XF86Config file, making sym
links , well, nothing worked. I've looked in all the obvious places.
b) It takes nearly ten minutes to boot , but that is probably
because it recognizes my PCI ne2000 ethernet card as a sound card.
Ill tackle that as soon as I can get my mouse working.
Probably recompiling the kernel will see to that.
TIA
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From: Gordon Weast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting up 2 Completly differrent ppp Internet Accounts
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:29:14 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you have KDE installed, then you have kppp which will do this
very well.
With my old Slakware 95 install, I was able to handle two different
accounts by doing some script magic. I had two resolve files, one
was resolve.act1 and the other was resolve.act2. I then had two scripts
that first made a forced symbolic link from resolve.conf to one or
the other. One script was for logging into the first account and the
second script was for the second account.
There were a few other things that have to be done such as having
two different ppp config files as well. The login scripts do the
selection for you. I used two different root class logins that
were set up to execute the scripts with root permissions. This
was needed to get the symbolic links to work with some security.
Using kppp is definitely easier than this round about hack.
Gordon Weast
"Phillip J. Allen" wrote:
>
> I have 2 accounts ATTGLOBAL.NET and a TERRA2 (it's Peruvian). I have
> sucessfully configured the ATT based upon the info on their web site
> writing to the the resolv.conf , options, pap-secrets and the ppp-on &
> ppp-off scripts/files. Then I discovered the RedHat 6.2 PPP dialer and
> since my ATT account didn't appear I just added my TERRA2 account info.
> And it appears that the RH6.2 ppp controler without mercy overwrote my
> ATT resolv.com & a few others.
>
> So now how do configure for both of them to peacefully coexist?? Can
> just write 2 domain names & nameservers to resolv.com such as
>
> domain ATTGLOBAL.Net
> nameserver 1.1.1.1 (just an example)
> nameserver 1.1.1.2
>
> domain TERRA2
> namerserver 2.2.2.2.2
> nameserver 2.2.2.2.3
>
> and the same style of duel codes in the other files too??
>
> thanks
>
> Phillip J. Allen
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:25:49 -0700
John Hasler wrote:
>
> blowfish writes:
> > Red Hat, Debian et al are ALL selling the GNU-GPL stuff for money.
>
> Wrong. Debian sells nothing.
>
http://linuxmall.com/shop/01496?cat=ROOT&sort=2&vid=&search=debian&SID=90de0b724faa8352f505f5269a3dc28b&Start=
It shows a $17.95 price tag there. ;-)
> > I know exactly what free software are. But my reason of using "free
> > software" is not because they're free I always BUY the "official CDs/DVD
> > releases,
>
> Then you don't know what free software is. It's free as in free speech,
> not as in free beer.
No, I *NEVER* care about beer. Free or not free. :-)
But Free Speech is what I like, and treasure.
But I also want to support those who contribute to the good stuff. ;-)
Alex / blowfish.
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: Holly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IRQ'S
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 02:35:03 GMT
Hi, 'start''control panel''device manager''dble click "computer"'
Holly
Karen Cheer wrote:
>
> I am about to setup turbolinux 6.0 on my mechine, how do i find IRQ's and
> input/output ranges in win98se
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From: Conrad Mukai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: cucipop and NIS
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 02:30:07 +0000
We have recently switched our system over to a centralized NIS/NFS based
network. This includes mounting users' home directories on the mail
server and providing their passwords with NIS. Our POP3 server is
cucipop. I tested this configuration and got cucipop to use NIS provided
passwords to authenticate users. After we switched our entire network to
this setup, we realized much later that when users attempted to change
their password, cucipop would somtimes still require the old password,
and other times would use the new password. Does anyone know how cucipop
authenticates users, and why we are getting such an uneven behavior from
cucipop? BTW, no accounts are defined in the local /etc/passwd file on
the mail server so that is NOT the problem.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 19:39:08 -0700
Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when John Hasler would say:
> >Alex writes:
> >> That may be fine with some private end users, but in the real business
> >> world, accountability is everything.
> >
> >In my experience with the business world money is everything.
>
> In my experience, there are so many variations in what motivates action,
> it's insane to try to generalize any single answer of what motivates whom.
>
> For instance, it is pretty common for consultants from "big 6"
> consulting firms to find _their_ prime motivations coming from:
>
> a) Needing to progress up the career ladder posthaste in order to
> get any "corporate rewards;"
>
> b) Needing to bill as much as possible to clients in order to maximize
> revenues, which means that it makes perfect sense to try to
> "spend like a drunken sailor;"
>
> c) Receiving any bonuses on the basis of conformance with project
> plans, with the result that Project Plans are #1.
>
> Several of those things have to do with money in an _indirect_
> manner, but, by and large, actions are somewhat separated from
> "money," so long as enough is rolling in.
>
> All the sorts of motivations that exist may be readily found in business,
> including greed for money, greed for sex, greed for power, greed for
> prestige, just to name a few of the "deadly sins."
>
After all. Money does makes the world goes round. No!?
> >> They'll pass even if you have the best stuff out, if nobody can be taken
> >> account for, if something goes wrong.
> >
> >Just as with proprietary software users who need extensive support and
> >"accountability" can negotiate a contract with the author. Unlike the case
> >with proprietary software, such users have the alternative of negotiating
> >such a contract with a third party: he has the source, the lack of which is
> >the only thing that sets vendor support apart from third party support in
> >the proprietary world.
> >
> >> As far as I can see. All the distros, including the die-hard Debian. Are
> >> out exploiting the GNU-GPL.
> >
> >How could Debian "exploit" the GPL (or anything else)? Do you understand
> >what Debian is?
>
> Indeed. I'd find it interesting just what systems are supposedly not
> "exploiting" anything. It's pretty common for comments like this to come
> from "BSD trolls;" the fact that BSDI bought out Walnut Creek, and
> IBM bought WhistleJet demonstrate that the "BSD world" is not immune
> to commercial attempts to "exploit" BSD code either.
>
I just checked Linuxmall.com. Debian shows up in a box, with a $17.95
price tag right next to it.
Sure. *BSD are making money too. But they do allow the developers to
keep their codes proprietary; just a tiny bit more option for the
contributors- in my fscking opinion. :-)
> >> They're making the profits by repackaging the free stuff put out by
> >> volunteers, who have put out their work under GNU-GPL.
> >
> >Some of those "volunteers" are paid (not by Debian) to work full time on
> >Debian. In any case, we do not mind at all that people make money from
> >Debian. The right to do so is a requirement of the DFSG.
> >
> >Last year I made $25,000 as a direct consequence of my free software
> >efforts. There is no way I would have made a penny from my software had
> >I not released it under the GPL and put it in Debian.
> >
> >> I don't think that's fair to the developers.
> >
> >I think that the developers are quite competent to decide what is fair to
> >them.
>
> Indeed.
>
> >> And the way the GNU-GPL is written that, you either have to give up
> >> everything to your claims,...
> >
> >Wrong.
>
> The sentence doesn't make sense; this seems to represent some meaning of
> "claims" that has been made up on the spot.
>
> >> But never mind if somebody repackage your work and make a hugh profit out
> >> from your free work,...
> >
> >A "huge" profit selling software that anyone can sell? ROFL.
>
> Indeed. With CheapBytes and LSL and LinuxCentral around repackaging
> things at eminently low markups, it _has_ to be that if someone is
> paying $40 for Red Hat 7.0, they're not paying for the software, but
> rather for something else...
>
> >> ...where you no longer has any rights to.
> >
> >Wrong. I still own the copyrights on my stuff and only I can distribute
> >the software under any license other than the GPL.
>
> ... Which is the _fascinating_ thing about the GPL, and also the
> most-misunderstood...
>
Maybe I've misinterputed the GNU-GPL a little, but life is a non-stop
learning process. Right!?
I'll re-read the GNU-GPL again. Maybe I'll agree with you later, or
maybe not. It all depends on how you interpute the language written in
the lisence. Common fools like me read differently than bean-counters,
or lawyers... Or GNU-GPL gurus...
- Alex / blowfish. :-)
> >> I don't either. But I'm just interested in this opensource movement.
> >
> >Then you should learn a bit more about it. You don't understand free
> >software at all well.
>
> Indeed.
> --
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> incinerators, not compactors. And they will be kept hot, with none of
> that nonsense about flames going through accessible tunnels at
> predictable intervals." <http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: setting up internal LAN
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 03:06:52 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:46:44 +0100, TJ O Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am having a problem with setting up and tesing my network. I set
> up my network within our LAN here at work.
>
> internet-------outside Lan--------------|firewall
>system|------------------internal LAN
> /
>\ \
> 192.168.1.38
>192.168.2.1 192.168.2.2
>
>.Where the firewall sits on the Linux box, is where all my smtp,www,and dns
> will be controlled. The pc (192.168.2.2) can
> ping the internal address(192.168.2.1)
> From the firewall i can ping an Internet System.
> Now I come to a problem.
> When i turn off ip_forwarding i can't ping the outside address
> of the firewall(192.168.1.38)
> However when i turn on ip_forwarding i can't ping the outside address or
> anywhere on the internet from 192.168.2.2
>
>I think my problem is that these address are not valid on the Internet.
>The Outside LAN is connected to the Internet Direct. How can I go about
>giving the Firewall a valid address on the Internet on the outside to allow
>the internal
>addresses to access outside.
Read IPCHAINS-HOWTO including the 3 liner showing how to MASQ your system.
Load the ip_masq_ftp module to enable you to ftp out through it.
--
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http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: "Christopher Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Time Jumps + 10 hours - RH 6.2
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:48:36 +1000
Every so often the system clock jumps forward 10 hours (which happens to
be how for ahead we are from GMT).
The hardware clock is fine, the system clock stays OK for several hours,
then suddenly jumps 10 hours. Did it this morning at 11:37am (local time),
01:37am (GMT) - the clock jumped to 09:37pm (local time), 11:37am (GMT).
Settings from /etc/sysconfig/clock are
ZONE="Australia/Brisbane"
UTC=false
ARC=false
Any help appreciated.
Christopher Burke
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 03:02:31 GMT
Jeff writes:
> ...but Debian keeps looking like a better and better long-term
> alternative. And Potato's due any day now...
Potato is completely stable and usable right now (as is Woody, for that
matter).
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Partition Problem
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:14:05 -0700
On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:34:13 GMT, Martin Racette
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in
alt.os.linux.mandrake:
>
> Partition Magic tell me this error (this is the exact text from
> PM3.05, and PM 4.0 has the same):
> "The logical drive chain is incompatible. DOS, OS/2, Windows 95, and
> Windows NT require that logical partitions be chained together in
> ascending order. This error occurs when one or more of the logical
> partitions are chained together in the wrong order. Other operating
> systems may not have this requirement. Some versions of Linux fdisk
> chain logical partitions together in the order created. This situation
> is very dangerous and can cause loss of one or more partitions when
> using DOS's FDISK."
>
>
> How can I correct this situation ???
>
Try using Partition Magic 5.0, which understands ext2fs and
linux swap partitions.
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Bestiaria Support Staff <
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:58:52 -0700
Jerry L Kreps wrote:
>
> On Tue, 01 Aug 2000, David Steuber wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >' ... and it's bad news! They split the distribution in two versions:
> >' personal (for private, desktop users) and professional (server
> >' related). They are also more expensive, don't have any major release
> >' (neither kernel 2.4, KDE 2.0, etc.) because they're too soon. There's
> >' is no reason to upgrade to 7.0. Wait til kernel 2.4 is released ...
> >
> >For some reason, I am still running with 6.2. I've been upgrading
> >packages as needed. Over time, I expect to have a system that is a
> >sort of DIY on top of the basic package in the SuSE 6.2 distro.
> >
> >Or, I may go the Debian route.
> >
> >--
> >David Steuber
> >NRA Membe
>
> While SuSE 7.0 may not be worth an upgrade from 6.3 or 6.4, it still is a good
> distro for those trying Linux or SuSE for the first time. Prior to 7.0, SuSE
> distros came on 6 CDs plus a 480+ page printed manual. That combination is now
> being packaged as the PRO version, while a 3 CD version is 'personal' version.
> The PRO is about $80 and the Personal is about $30. The net effect of the 7.0
> release is to double the price of the 6 CD set and offer a cheaper version.
> Also, YaST2 (the graphical sys admin tool) has been polished and a new tool,
> ALICE, makes it's appearance.
>
Get the DVD. It includes even more than the 6 CDs set. ;-)
And you don't have to baby sit the installation, once you're done with
keying in the basic, like language , apps selection, time zone, network
info. The whole process is automated.
- Alex / blowfish.
> My SuSE 6.3 is running perfectly, so I don't see a reason yet to upgrade. I
> will upgrade, however, after SuSE makes the journaling system standard on the
> install, and after KDE 2.0 comes out. Probably around 7.2, in 6 monts.
> Meanwhile, all you folks who are trying to decide how to jump into Linux, or to
> try SuSE, go ahead. It's a great distro!
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time.
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