Linux-Setup Digest #310, Volume #19               Thu, 3 Aug 00 04:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: corrupt partition? (Chem-R-Us)
  Re: char-major-108 (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Gnome or KDE (moonie;))
  Re: Apache/Sendmail (Zebee Johnstone)
  Re: How to back up a Linux disk (E J)
  gnome logout unexpectly ("Chih-Chieh Han")
  Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition (Baloo Ursidae)
  HELP! Installing KDE 2.0 problems!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: please help - continuing saga of trying to get LPC3-TX PCMCIA Ethernet working 
(Davide Bianchi)
  Re: XFree86 4.0 install error (Davide Bianchi)
  Re: How to back up a Linux disk ("Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
  Re: Install RH from Slack? (Davide Bianchi)
  Re: 'cdrecord' error!!?? (Davide Bianchi)
  Slackware won't detect my Pioneer CD-ROM (Stannon Yen)
  Linex integrity test - how? (Yuval Yohai)
  Re: char-major-108 (Villy Kruse)

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Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 23:10:15 -0700
From: Chem-R-Us <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: corrupt partition?

LeeRoy wrote:
> 
> I ran fdisk /mbr from my win 98 startup disk.
> I was trying to get rid of windows completely so I only have linux.
> however when I try to boot my boot disk or something else I can't access my
> partition anymore to reload lilo??
> I can run fdisk see's everything fine.
> I can run e2fsck it says everything is fine
> but when I try to mount it I get this message
> 
> EXT2-fs: 03:01: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features.
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblick on /dev/hda1,
>             or too many mounted file systems
> 
> How do I fix this?  any help greatly appreciated
> If there is no other way then the last resort will the to reload from start
> but I would rather not do that.

OK. You have dome nothing more than clear lilo from the master boot
record. What you need to do is install it back in there. This assumes
that you made a boot disk.

Boot up using the boot disk, and logon as root. At the # prompt, type
lilo. It should respond "linux added". Now you're set, lilo has been
reinstalled on the mbr.

To get rid of windows, you (as root) need to use the linux cfdisk
utility. Type cfdisk and look for the vfat partition. That is your
windows partition. Delete it. That partition is now available to become
something else. Quite the cfdisk program and then reboot the system to
ensure that the new partition table gets written to disk.

-- 
           .~.     ))
Chem-R-Us  /V\    ((
          //Y\\_c|^^|
         /(_|_)  `--'
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: char-major-108
Date: 3 Aug 2000 06:34:30 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Kral) writes:

>Can anyone explain where I can get hold of the above module, since 
>modeprobe reports that it cannot be located.

It is a 2.3.x kernel module. The error message from pppd is a bug. It is
not an error and should not have been issued. Ignore it.

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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 02:49:29 -0400

On Tue, 01 Aug 2000, Rasputin wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <D. C. & M. V. Sessions> wrote:
>>Christopher Browne wrote:
>>> 
>>> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when SL News Posting would say:
>>> >In article <8lqfnk$bli$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>> > ishpeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> >|> Nothing better than strait windowmaker. :)
>>> >|>
>>> >
>>> >Sure there is - straight twm - been using it for 10 years[*] and
>>> >have no need for all the desktop clutter, sound, moving menus,
>>> >themes, etc.  *tvtwm is available to provide a virtual screen
>>> >larger than the physical screen for those who need such.
>>> 
>>> Ah.  Wuss.
>>> 
>>> What you _want_ is wmx, which gets rid of even _more_ of the clutter...
>>
>>You had ones?  All we had was zeros.
>
>You were lucky.
>We had to bang two rocks together to get the zeros...
>
>etc, etc.....

I had to walk 10 miles, uphill, in the snow just to get the rocks!
--
moonie ;)

Registered Linux User #175104

Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers 
RAID 0 Stripped
Speed Demons-R-Us!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebee Johnstone)
Subject: Re: Apache/Sendmail
Date: 3 Aug 2000 05:50:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In comp.os.linux.setup on Thu, 03 Aug 2000 03:49:44 GMT
slik66 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>I have just been asked by the small company I work for to set up an Apache
>webserver and a Sendmail mail server.  Being new to Linux and the industry,
>this is quite a daunting task.  Does anyone know any good tutorials on these
>items?  Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.
>

They pretty much work out of the box.

If I was you I'd avoid sendmail and use postfix - far simpler to configure
and nowhere near the security risk.  If you *must* have sendmail (and
really truly, avoid it if you can, postfix is a drop in replacement)
then you must get the O'Reilly book on sendmail.  You will need it,
and it is the only decent documentatin out there.

See www.apache.org for Apache docs, but head off to your local
computer bookshop and get a good book.  I have one (at work so can't
give the exact title) on apache that's subtitled something like "for
professionals by professionals" and is excellent.

But any book will do if you can't get it working by reading the docs
and the config file.

Just get postfix and apache, read the comments in the config files and
see how you go.  Make sure your name service is working or that you
have good and reliable access to someone else's name server.

if you need email, don't forget to look into a way for people to get
their email.  A pop server probably.  One comes with most
distributions.

If you think you'll have a lot of people needing email, then go to
www.freshmeat.net and search for "teapot".  It's a nice little thing
that works with your pop server to allow you to have any number of
people picking up mail from any number of virtual domains using a
variety of authentication.

Zebee

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to back up a Linux disk
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 23:55:51 -0700

$ su
password: <secret>
# cd /
# # I backup every directory in the / directory except for /proc, /mnt, etc
other directories you don't want to backup
# tar cvf directory_tar directory
# gzip directory_tar
# # move the tarred and gzip file onto the windows side for burning the CD
later.
# mv directory_tar .gz /mnt/harddisk/linux

I restored my system by installing the redhat 6.2
unzip and untar files from the archive CD back where they belong.
Do a full upgrade using the redhat 6.2
The system is back to normal.  It surprised me :)

Dick Wisan wrote:

> I'm very much a Linux newbie, still, trying to get squared away with
> RH6.2 &/or Mandrake 7.01.  How do you back up a Linux system?  I'm
> trying to make backup CDs with an outboard, PP & cardbus CDRW.  What
> I'm used to backing up DOS and Win3, directory by directory, into
> ZIP files.  Then (it's happened several times) you recover from a
> wipe-out by reconstructing the MBR and directory structures and
> refilling the directories from backup disks.
>
> I understand this isn't adequate for Win 9x, and I'd like to know
> whether it's adequate for Linux.  If not, what?
>
> (I'm certainly newbie enough and all thumbs enough to wipe out my
> disk.)
>
> --
> R. N. (Dick) Wisan  - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>                     - Snail: 37 Clinton Street, Oneonta NY 13820, U.S.A.
>                     - Just your opinion, please, ma'am: No fax.


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From: "Chih-Chieh Han" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gnome logout unexpectly
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 06:59:52 GMT

Hi,
    Could any one give me a help on this?  I got gnome log out back to login
screen.  Also, my screen sometimes is not refreshing.  some characters in a
window moved outside of the window unexpectly.

Thanks a lot
Simon



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From: Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:18:36 GMT

root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what did you do to make the kernel support it?

insmod fat
insmod msdos
insmod vfat

or add the following three lines to /etc/modules

fat
msdos
vfat

and reboot

-- 
Baloo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: HELP! Installing KDE 2.0 problems!!!
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:15:14 GMT

Ok, I have tried numerously, on different occasions, to get KDE 2.0 to
work.  This time I am closer than ever.  I got it so KDE 2.0 is pretty
much installed.  When you start the computer (mine starts in init level
5 so I have a graphical login), kde2 is a choice to start into.  But
when I start it, I get this check list type of box and it gets to the
first one and then it says it can't access the network and that
dcopserver is not running.  Am I suppose to have this thing dialed into
the internet before it even gets to x windows?  Is dcopserver suppose to
be running before x windows starts?  I was trying to figure out a way to
make dcopserver start before x windows, but couldn't figure out a way.
(I am sure there is a way.)
Any help is appreciated!!!
Maybe if someone has already installed this before, they could give me
some detailed instructions on how to do this.
David
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: please help - continuing saga of trying to get LPC3-TX PCMCIA Ethernet 
working
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:29:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 01:55:49 +0100, "Ian Turnbui"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Just so OBVIOUS that there is a make-...rpm huh!, so having solved my  make
>command not being found - just by looking at the rpms by the way naturally
>the next problem surfaced immediately -
>
>in one of the files [pcnet_cs.c in fact] there are a lot of:
>
>#include <linux/kernel.h>
>#include </linux/config.h>
>#incude </linux/version.h>
>
>There was not a /usr/src/linux  folder before I started and
>I had downloaded the source as in  linux-2.2.14.tar.gz and gzip -d  and
>tar'd it whilst in /usr/src
>BUT the above files are actually in
>
>/usr/src/linux/include/linux/config.h     and is the only config.h  in
>usr/src//linux
>/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/math-emu/version.h   and is the only version.h in
>/usr/src/linux
>/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel.src                and is the only one
>of these !!!
>
>I have also downloaded a 1.5MB  patch-2.2.14.gz  file but am not sure what
>to do with it ??
>
>WHAT have I done wrong!! Have I downloaded the kernel for something other
>than Mandrake OR indeed has Techworks given me something that works only
>with SUSE / RedHAt perhaps ???

No, the Kernel is correct, probabily you have to configure the sources
BEFORE compile them. Look at the documentation that came with the
sources of your network card.
It is not so strange that before the Make you have to CONFIGURE the
entire thing, so it will look for the correct files in the correct
place.
Sometimes there is a script, usually called Configure, that check the
various position and directories and then "adjust" the makefile.

Davide

>
>DO all the different flavours of Linux actually use the same source layout
>in that the version.h should always be in the  /usr/src/linux   folder??
>
>Oh God, I can't afford to go out and buy a PCMCIA Ethernet card that is
>supported I just don't have the funds available. Please help me get over
>this hurdle folks.
>
>One last thing - in the  makefile provided by Techworks they have a variable
>INC in this form:
>
>PCMCIASRC = /usr/src/pcmcia                           - this I dowloaded
>from ftp://sourcforge.org/pcmcia/..
>INC = -I/usr/src/linux -I$(PCMCIASRC)/include -I/usr/src/linux \
>        -I/usr/src/linux/drivers/net
>if thats of any help??
>
>Ian Turnbull
>0961 931941
>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Web  : www.turnbui.freeserve.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: XFree86 4.0 install error
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:31:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:40:24 +1000, "Matt & Penny Edmonds"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi
>I'm running Suse 6.4 and want to install KDE2 so I went to install XF86 4.0.
>There were some error messages towards the end of the install but I missed
>tham as they scrolled past.
>
>whenI went to startx after that I got the following message ....... can
>anyone please help.
>Thanks in advance
>Matt

Probabily you have to reconfigure the server. Try execute the
xf86config script, or check the XF86Configure configuration
file.

Davide


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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to back up a Linux disk
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:19:25 +0100

Dick Wisan wrote:
> 
> I'm very much a Linux newbie, still, trying to get squared away with
> RH6.2 &/or Mandrake 7.01.  How do you back up a Linux system?  I'm
> trying to make backup CDs with an outboard, PP & cardbus CDRW.  What
> I'm used to backing up DOS and Win3, directory by directory, into
> ZIP files.  Then (it's happened several times) you recover from a
> wipe-out by reconstructing the MBR and directory structures and
> refilling the directories from backup disks.
> 
> I understand this isn't adequate for Win 9x, and I'd like to know
> whether it's adequate for Linux.  If not, what?
> 
> (I'm certainly newbie enough and all thumbs enough to wipe out my
> disk.)
> 
Hi,

If you create a user account and only run as root when you need to then
you minimize any damage you can do to the system - however you can still
blast your own files though ;-)

On the subject of backup - you can use the commercial tool Arkeia
(http://www.arkeia.com) free for home use. It expects some form of tape
device to be available and can run the GUI on either Linux or Win9x. I
have used it and it is OK for what I want. I acquired an old Exabyte 8mm
tape drive from work at little cost which can hold around 5GB
(compressed) which is enough at present. 

Better news - having just looked at the Arkeia web site it seems that
you can back up to a 'Virtual Tape' which is a disk file - could be the
answer ;-)

HTH

Regards

Phil Q

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: Install RH from Slack?
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:32:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 02 Aug 2000 13:04:01 -0500, David Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I'm trying to install RH6.1 on a Pentium-s 133 that is
>currently running SlackWare 3.2.  How is the best way
>to do it?
>
>I've tried booting from the RH CD-ROM but it hangs
>when it tries to run /sbin/loader.  I've tried expert mode
>(not that I'm ACTUALLY an expert) but it hangs after
>I say "done" loading special drivers (or something like
>that - I didn't load any special drivers).
>
>Can I run the install after booting into Slackware?  Do
>I need to set something different?  Has anyone else had
>/sbin/loader lock up?
>

Maybe you have to wrong libraries in your system. Try
boot from the installation floppy that came with RedHat,
or create a new boot floppy and boot with that.

Davide


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: 'cdrecord' error!!??
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:38:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 01:00:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Thanks a lot!
>But I have one IDE CD-ROM drive, and a IDE CD-RW. If I choose IDE-CD
>no, then I cannot use the IDE CD-ROM drive, right? What do I do now?
>
>Thanks again

I have the same configuration, you can STILL use your CD-ROM and your
CD-RW, but you have to access them trought the /dev/scd? devices
instead the /dev/hd? devices.

My system is configured like that:

1 Cd RW (HP 7100+) Secondary master
1 DVD Player (Creative 5241) Secondary slave

No IDE CDROM support in the kernel
SCSI CDRom support AND SCSI emulation

In my lilo.conf I have the line append="hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi"

I can access both CD using /dev/scd0 for the HP and /dev/scd1 for
the DVD. To make an easy thing more easy, I also created two
link for cdrom1 and cdrom2 pointing to the two driver. So I can
use mount .... /dev/cdrom1 instead of /dev/scd0.

Davide


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Subject: Slackware won't detect my Pioneer CD-ROM
From: Stannon Yen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:52:59 -0700

Hi,

    I have downloaded the Slackware 7.1 CD-ROM, and I am trying
to install it on my old 486. I have created boot disk (bare.i)
and rootdisk (color.gz) but the setup program won't recognize
my Pioneer DR-UA124X ATAPI CD-ROM drive. I can see it recognized
during kernel boot but the setup program won't mount it.

    I thought the drive is supported since kernel 1.3. Even
RedHat I got detects and installs from the CD-ROM drive.
Any ideas? I have no more hd space available for copying
CD-ROM image.

Stannon


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From: Yuval Yohai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linex integrity test - how?
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 09:06:56 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello

Can any of you friend think of the best way to do a full Linux box
integrity tests, in terms of libraries, environment and system
variables, RPM db, boot/shutdown, hardware performance and integrity,
and all whatever else I couldn't think about or which I don't know.
I'm not talking about Security which is a hole deferent big issue.

Thanks,
yuval


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: char-major-108
Date: 3 Aug 2000 08:09:44 GMT

On 3 Aug 2000 06:34:30 GMT, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Kral) 
>writes:
>
>>Can anyone explain where I can get hold of the above module, since 
>>modeprobe reports that it cannot be located.
>
>It is a 2.3.x kernel module. The error message from pppd is a bug. It is
>not an error and should not have been issued. Ignore it.


Actualy, pppd is anticipating the comming kernel version that does have 
this device.  On current 2.2.x kernels this device does not exist and
is not needed;  when pppd tries to open it you get this message, but that
is all.  The documentation files that comes with the pppd source does
explain this.

You can make it shut up by adding an alias 

alias char-major-108 off

to /etc/modules.conf or /etc/conf.modules; whichever file exists on
your system.


Villy

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