Linux-Setup Digest #313, Volume #19 Thu, 3 Aug 00 13:13:14 EDT
Contents:
FTP Install fails due to ramdisk error, help... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Coppermine SLOW PERFORMANCE... (Kent Perrier)
Re: HELP! Installing KDE 2.0 problems!!! (Robert Price)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Jay Maynard)
Re: Using KPPP as a user ("David Stackis")
Re: upg from RH 6.2 -> 7.0 beta (notes for those who're interested) (Myriam
Abramson)
Re: Gnome or KDE (The Ghost In The Machine)
Creating a boot Partition for Linux (Nuet Lareton)
Re: Installing Zip drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Phillip Lord)
paging scripts and other Qs (jtoy)
Re: HOW? do I copy passwd file? (Colin Watson)
Re: Text Mode Resolution ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
the GNU philosophy (was: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.) (Jonathan
Thornburg)
Backup using a Zip drive problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
APSFILTER Question (Kurt Savegnago)
dns question ("Ed Kommeren")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTP Install fails due to ramdisk error, help...
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:59:37 GMT
Here is the error message I am getting when trying to FTP install
redhat linux 6.2, using the bootnet.img on the 6.2 distribution.
Unable to retrive the second stage
ramdisk: Bad server response
Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? Please help
I have tried various ftp sites and I keep getting this error, thanks...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Kent Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Coppermine SLOW PERFORMANCE...
Date: 03 Aug 2000 10:06:59 -0500
EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Kent Perrier wrote:
> >
> > EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > OK,
> > >
> > > I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT DIDN'T GET AS MUCH RESPONSE
> > > AS I THOUGH I WOULD.
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > Now my ears hurt :)
> >
> > Kent
> > --
> > They were killing machines. I wanted to be them so bad.
> >
> > -- Jamie Zawinski
> > http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/grave.html
>
> What???
In usenet (and email) typing in all CAPS is the equivalent of shouting.
Thus, my little joke about my ears hurting. :)
Kent
--
"I will tell you the secret of getting rich on Wall Street... You try
to be greedy when others are fearful, and you try to be very fearful
when others are greedy."
-- Warren Buffett
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Price)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: HELP! Installing KDE 2.0 problems!!!
Date: 3 Aug 2000 15:17:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know the answer to your question but if you do not get much help
here you should ask on the kde newsgroup: comp.windows.x.kde
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 07:15:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ok, I have tried numerously, on different occasions, to get KDE 2.0 to
>work. This time I am closer than ever. I got it so KDE 2.0 is pretty
>much installed. When you start the computer (mine starts in init level
>5 so I have a graphical login), kde2 is a choice to start into. But
>when I start it, I get this check list type of box and it gets to the
>first one and then it says it can't access the network and that
>dcopserver is not running. Am I suppose to have this thing dialed into
>the internet before it even gets to x windows? Is dcopserver suppose to
>be running before x windows starts? I was trying to figure out a way to
>make dcopserver start before x windows, but couldn't figure out a way.
>(I am sure there is a way.)
>Any help is appreciated!!!
>Maybe if someone has already installed this before, they could give me
>some detailed instructions on how to do this.
>David
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
--
R o b e r t P r i c e
======================
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.enteract.com/~bobprice/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Maynard)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 3 Aug 2000 15:21:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 03 Aug 2000 16:09:33 +0100, Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Seeing as you insist that only you are able to define the word
>"free" and that anyone who uses it in a way that you do not like is
>being "plain offensive", I think I shall return the compliment and
>mention that you are displaying again a complete lack of understanding
>of the word "communism".
Okkay, where am I going wrong? As I understand it, communism is a system
where one does not have the right to benefit from the fruits of one's own
labors. Instead, all production is pooled, and redistributed to the populace
more or less evenly, perhaps adjusted by individual circumstances. "From
each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." is, as I
understand it, the defining rule.
This fits RMS's utopia well: programmers are denied the right to be
compensated for their labor, instead being forced to give away their output
in return for some nebulous compensation of unspecified type and value.
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From: "David Stackis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Using KPPP as a user
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 08:26:16 -0700
"David M. Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:42:15 -0700, David Stackis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >I have RedHat 6.2...I love it and all, except for the fact that I cannot
> >access KPPP as a regular user.
>
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11734
>
> Dave Cook
Awesome!!!!
Thanks Dave!!!
David Stackis
http://www.stackis.com
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From: Myriam Abramson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: upg from RH 6.2 -> 7.0 beta (notes for those who're interested)
Date: 03 Aug 2000 10:53:49 -0400
> from metalab.unc.edu. I also used driveimage to
> backup the linux partition right before upgrade so
> I wouldn't lose extra time restoring.
>
What's driveimage and how do you use it? Sounds useful.
Thanks for the info on pinstripe.
--
myriam
Go Proverb:
If you have on stone on the third line, add another, then abandon both
of them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:35:33 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, moonie;)
<>
wrote
on Thu, 3 Aug 2000 02:49:29 -0400
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>On Tue, 01 Aug 2000, Rasputin wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <D. C. & M. V. Sessions> wrote:
>>>Christopher Browne wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when SL News Posting would say:
>>>> >In article <8lqfnk$bli$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>>> > ishpeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>> >|> Nothing better than strait windowmaker. :)
>>>> >|>
>>>> >
>>>> >Sure there is - straight twm - been using it for 10 years[*] and
>>>> >have no need for all the desktop clutter, sound, moving menus,
>>>> >themes, etc. *tvtwm is available to provide a virtual screen
>>>> >larger than the physical screen for those who need such.
>>>>
>>>> Ah. Wuss.
>>>>
>>>> What you _want_ is wmx, which gets rid of even _more_ of the clutter...
>>>
>>>You had ones? All we had was zeros.
>>
>>You were lucky.
>>We had to bang two rocks together to get the zeros...
>>
>>etc, etc.....
>
>I had to walk 10 miles, uphill, in the snow just to get the rocks!
Both ways? :-)
[.sigsnip]
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- who uses fvwm at home, and KDE at work
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From: Nuet Lareton <phibetaSPAMBOSS.*@hotmail.com>
Subject: Creating a boot Partition for Linux
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 10:15:27 -0500
This is my situation, I have 2 6GB HD, C (hda) with windows 98 and D
(hdb) with RH Linux 6.2. I am currently using a boot disk to use
Linux. I'm using the boot disk because I am wary of messing with my
MBR for any reason. However, the booting process takes forever from
my floppy and I remember how relatively fast it takes to boot my
computer at work using LILO on the MBR.
My question is this: can I make a partition on my C drive where I
could essentially store my boot floppy information and would default
into windows? All this w/o actually messing with the MBR, where if I
wanted to go back to the original boot settings I would simply remove
the partition. (this is a case where I want my cake and eat it as
well) I thought I had seen something like this done before, however I
can't remember the specifics. Is this possible? If so, has anyone
tried this and can give me some feedback as to any problems I can
expect. TIA.
Neut Lareton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installing Zip drive
Date: 3 Aug 2000 15:57:37 GMT
Mario Klaric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I tried installing Zip drive on my Red Hat Linux box. The kernel was
> already configured for it, with the following:
> SCSI Support - SCSI support - Y, SCSI disk support - Y
> SCSI Low-Level Drivers - IOMEGA Parallel Port ZIP drive SCSI support
> - M
> Character Devices - Parallel Printer support - M
> I created directory /zip. When I did insmod ppa I got
> # insmod ppa
> ppa: Version 1.42
> ppa: Probing port 03bc
> ppa: Probing port 0378
> ppa: SPP port present
> ppa: PS/2 bidirectional port present
> ppa: EPP 1.7
> ppa: Probing port 0278
> SCSI: 0 hosts.
> /lib/modules/preferred/scsi/ppa.o init_module: Device or resource busy.
> Can anyone help me, please? What am I missing?
> Thanx a lot.
> Mario
The ppa module did not work for me either. I have on my /etc/rc.d/rc.local:
insmod parport
insmod imm
"imm" is the newer module for parallel port Zip drives.
Hope this helps.
--
Ivan Lima
National Center for Atmospheric Research - Climate and Global Dynamics
Boulder, CO
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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 03 Aug 2000 17:00:03 +0100
>>>>> "Jay" == Jay Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jay> On 03 Aug 2000 16:09:33 +0100, Phillip Lord
Jay> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Seeing as you insist that only you are able to define the word
>> "free" and that anyone who uses it in a way that you do not like
>> is being "plain offensive", I think I shall return the compliment
>> and mention that you are displaying again a complete lack of
>> understanding of the word "communism".
Jay> Okkay, where am I going wrong? As I understand it, communism is
Jay> a system where one does not have the right to benefit from the
Jay> fruits of one's own labors.
Interesting.
The entire point of communism is that one should have the
ability to benefit from the fruits of one's labour, rather than in
capitalist state where the ruling class gain the benefit from the
fruits of their employees work. Indeed Marx's definition of ruling
class was fairly much along the lines of those who own the means of
production and benefit from the fruits of production, as opposed to
working class as those who are the means of production and do not
benefit from it.
So you have it backwards. Just like GPL proponents and "free"
eh?
Cheers
Phil
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From: jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.shell,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: paging scripts and other Qs
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 12:18:51 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was wondering if someone could give me an example of a bash script (or
somethig similar) that would page (via modem of course) me when
something goes wrong. Excuse my ignorance, but I know very little about
stuff like AT& ATD and all those other short ascii codes.
Another question Offtopic,
I have built my own small network of primarily 486s with OpenBSD,
FreeBSD and Linux(Any other suggestions for good free OSes?). I have
made my own apache website, DNS with BIND, SMB data server, and sendmail
email server. I am building this stuff for knowledge and practice, but
I am running out of good ideas to keep building these machines. I only
want to build 486s (cheap, I bought a 486 50 mhz 16 mb ram, 503 mb hd
with monitor for $50) that have an actual use. I don't want to build a
server that doesn't do something that I won't actually use, only
servers that I can actually get work done on. For example, would having
a usenet server on a 486 be ok? Also, good you give me your ideas on
how to balance services on the servers(i.e. usenet and sendmail on 1
server, SMB and NCP on another). Thanks for your help!
--
Jason Toy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://toy.eyep.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: HOW? do I copy passwd file?
Date: 3 Aug 2000 13:07:07 GMT
Daniel Waites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>RedHat 5.2 uses basic Unix passwords for authentication, and they are stored
>in one-way encrypted form in the /etc/passwd file. RedHat 6.2 uses MD5
>passwords, and they are definitely not stored in the /etc/passwd file.
While true, it really has nothing to do with that; MD5 passwords can be
stored in /etc/passwd just like crypted ones. What Red Hat 6.2 also uses
(and 5.2 can be configured to use) is shadow passwords, stored in
/etc/shadow (the 'x' in /etc/passwd indicates this to the system), and
this is independent of the cryptography scheme.
You should be able to copy individual password lines from 5.2's password
file to 6.2's, and then optionally run 'pwconv' to move those entries
into the shadowed password file.
>Unfortunately, since the password formats are different, your passwords
>will have to be reentered to take advantage of the new authentication
>software.
True, but you don't have to use MD5 passwords; normally (certainly on
this Debian system) you can use a mix of crypted and MD5 passwords, and
passwords will migrate naturally to MD5 whenever people change them in
the normal course of events.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"And I forgot the next verse / Oh well, I guess it pays to rehearse
The music sheet's so hard to find / What are the words? Oh nevermind"
- "Smells Like Nirvana", Weird Al
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Text Mode Resolution
Date: 3 Aug 2000 13:12:44 GMT
Dirk Frieborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there any way to have my console set up to 132 columns and/or 43
>lines or sth. like that?
Yes; try either SVGATextMode
(ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/utils/console/ or perhaps in your
distribution) or, in recent kernels, a framebuffer console and fbset
(though when I did this it was somewhat difficult to set up).
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Ammo is cheap, remember?" - The Internet Oracle
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Thornburg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: the GNU philosophy (was: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.)
Date: 3 Aug 2000 18:24:15 +0200
[[I've changed the subject line to something at least vaguely approximating
the matters under discussion.]]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jay Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[[referring to his misunderstanding of communism]]
>This fits RMS's utopia well: programmers are denied the right to be
>compensated for their labor, instead being forced to give away their output
>in return for some nebulous compensation of unspecified type and value.
You clearly aren't very familiar with RMS's opinions. I've read a fair
number of his public statements, and so far as I know he's never _never_
advocated programmers being "forced to give away their output". Instead,
he and the GNU project have always campaigned for licenses which deal
what happens _if_ you _choose_ to distribute software you wrote. They've
always advocated leaving that choice (whether or not to distribute) up to
you, the software author.
Indeed, RMS and the GNU project have consistently criticised other
"open source" software licenses which would _force_ software to be
provided to others. For example, see
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/plan-nine.html , written by one
Richard Stallman, which specifically criticizes the Plan 9 license
for _forcing_ modified versions of Plan 9 to be given back to the Plan 9
authors.
--
-- Jonathan Thornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.thp.univie.ac.at/~jthorn/home.html
Universitaet Wien (Vienna, Austria) / Institut fuer Theoretische Physik
Q: Only 5 countries have the death penalty for children. Which are they?
A: Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, United States
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Backup using a Zip drive problem
Date: 3 Aug 2000 16:27:25 GMT
Hello everyone,
I have a laptop computer running Red Hat 6.2 with a parallel port Zip
drive and I'd like to use the Zip drive for backing up my system and
personal files. The Zip drive works fine under Linux and I can
copy/delete files and everything. However, when I try to use dump or
tar to make system backups, interesting things happen.
If I use dump (/sbin/dump -u0f /home /dev/sda4), dump starts fine but
when it gets to the "EOT" (or end of disk) and prompts me for another
volume, it does not let me remove the first zip disk from the drive to
put the second. It's as if it was mounted. I've tried a few other
options with no success:
/sbin/dump -u0Mf /home /dev/sda4
/sbin/dump -u0af /home /dev/sda4
/sbin/dump -u0aMf /home /dev/sda4
/sbin/dump -u0af - /home > /dev/sda4
None of these works. I can't get the first disk out! Then, when I
abort the dump the disk comes out normally. If I dump a partition that
is small enough to fit in one disk (like /boot), everything works fine
and I can see all my backed up file with 'restore -v -i /dev/sda4'.
Now, when I use tar
tar -cvM -L 240000 -f - /home > /dev/sda4
or
tar -cvM -L 240000 -f /dev/sda4 /home
It backs up my files, prompts for the next volume, lets me change zip
disks and everthing. But when I try to check the contents of the
second disk/volume (with 'tar tvMf /dev/sda4') I get a blank line, as
if there was nothing there.
Is there a way to use dump or tar to make system backups with a
parallel port Zip drive? Particularly, I'd like to be able to use
dump. Is there a way to make dump let me change disks?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
--
Ivan Lima
National Center for Atmospheric Research - Climate and Global Dynamics
Boulder, CO
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From: Kurt Savegnago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: APSFILTER Question
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 12:05:09 -0500
Hi,
I've been able to get apsfilter setup with a LaserJet 5N and it does
work except for one peculiar facet. When it prints, it cuts off the
top line of a page. I believe I have the paper size set correctly
but is there some other parameter I need to change?
I'm running Slack 7.0 on that particular machine.
Best regards,
Kurt Savegnago
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ed Kommeren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dns question
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:04:20 +0200
How can i add a different domain name,(which is not part of the local zone)
to the DNS files ?
I want to host a different domain name for a customer on my network via
virtual hosts using the apache web server.
For example i want to host "_______ . com" and my network default zone is
like "office.au" .
Do I have to make the new host part of the default zone, like
"________.com.office.au" and use aliases like
www. ___ . com?
Or is there another possibility?
I get an error if i just put the original name "______.com" in the
configuration: host is no member of the default "office.au"group.
Can anybody help me?
Thanks
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