Linux-Setup Digest #313, Volume #20 Sat, 30 Dec 00 17:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Best Linux Distro? (DTi4565459)
Re: Newbie & LILO SuSE 7.0 - Linux fails to boot after install ("Kevin")
W2K & ME Install ("haggis")
Re: how to change X settings? (moonie;))
Re: question_on_Linux_and_Windows98 ("Micah")
Re: Apache Web Server Help (moonie;))
Re: network setting (moonie;))
Re: question_on_Linux_and_Windows98 ("LadyHawke")
Re: What is Python and Kt (RH6.2)???? (Glitch)
Re: modem (Glitch)
Re: major problem with suse 6.3 (Glitch)
Re: problem with xcdroast (David)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DTi4565459)
Date: 30 Dec 2000 20:10:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distro?
I like Debian. I am a newbie, and I
have found the Debian e-mail support
group to be very friendly and helpful.
Happy New Year
dave
http://www.columbia.edu/~mdt1/
(1 = one, not little L; and don't forget the trailing / )
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From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie & LILO SuSE 7.0 - Linux fails to boot after install
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 20:06:32 -0000
Reply-To: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I re-installed again and set Linux to boot from a floppy. I still need tell
the BIOS to boot from the Linux drive even though I boot off a floppy. I
installed by booting from a IDE CD.
I also had the 1010101010 problem.
|<evin
"Herman Wichern @hotmail.com>" <hwichern<GEENSPAM> wrote in message
news:nGM16.22538$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've had a similar experience. I have properly installed SuSE 7.0 on my
SCSI
> disk.
>
> I have had to force Linux to put the LILO on this disk, since it assumes
my
> IDE disk is the primary (it isn't, I guess it misinterprets my intentions
> coz'I booted from CD-rom (also SCSI) when installing Linux).
>
> When booting afterwards, BIOS set to Boot from SCSI again, SCSI device 1
> (disk) as bootable, I get LI followed by repeating 01 01 01 01 ... (till
the
> cows come home).
>
> My WinMe partition (the first on the same disk) refuses to boot also. When
I
> rerun Linux Install it does however 'see'a windows partition is present
too.
>
> Recreating a LILO boot diskette with Yast or YasT2 does not seem to fix
> this.....
>
> Tips are welcome, pref. to : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Tia
>
> SureD
> "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi I would appreciate a little help :-)
> >
> > SuSE 7.0 installed on its own drive and set as boot disk in the Bios.
> > There are two other drives with FAT32 and a bootable CDrom.
> > I can install and run linux up until I reboot and then LILO fails with
LO
> on
> > the command line.
> > I would be happy to boot with a floppy or be able to do the Linux
> equivalent
> > of SYS C:
> >
> > What I have seen so far I like but I don't thing a complete re-install
> every
> > time I want to use Linux is the best way of using it
> >
> > |<evin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "haggis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: W2K & ME Install
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 20:21:28 -0000
Can I install Red Hat 6.2 to a system that dual boots to Windows 2000 and
Millenium - all exisitng drives are fat32 and there's a new unpartitioned
disk just installed?
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: how to change X settings?
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 15:54:54 -0500
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, Steve in Phx wrote:
>I'm having trouble. I installed Redhat 6.2 on my P100 machine and am having
>trouble with the X windows system. I'm running KDE.
>The problem I'm having is that with my current monitor limitation of
>640X480, I can't see the bottom of any of my windows! If I open up
>linuxconf or netconf or KDE Control Center or anything else, I can't even
>get to the buttons on the bottom of the screen because the screens are so
>huge. They move off the page to the right also, but at least I can move the
>page left and right to find the button to click on. I'm sure that there has
>to be a way to change this, right?
>
>SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!
another way to do this is to use a larger virtual screen, ie virtual screen set
to 800x600, then you just scroll down. (I don't like virtual screens, but it is
an option)
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
(Registered at: http://counter.li.org)
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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AIM mooniesdl3
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From: "Micah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question_on_Linux_and_Windows98
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 13:04:44 -0800
Michael,
This is alright on version 6.2, but on version 7.0 the hard drive
partition setup is slightly different.
first choose the program to use (disk druid is recommended). Then choose
the partition for Linux to install on.
set up is just a little easier in Linux 7.0
-Micah
> 3) Go through the setup until you get to the partition install screen
> (you'll get a small window with the different partitions available to
> install to - select the one that DOESN"T have Windows on it).
>
> 4) Next you'll be asked about using fdisk or some other type of
> partitioning software. Just choose the fdisk option. A new screen will
> appear. You'll need to partition out a total of FOUR partitions on the
> linux partition...so you'll have to create 3 new partitions. You'll need
to
> define them as a swap partition (about 64 megabytes), a "/" (root)
partition
> (whatever size), a "/usr" partition (probably a pretty good size
partition)
> and a "/home" partition (a good size one as well). If you have 500 MB-1
GB
> of space to dedicate to the /usr and /home partitions, do it. If not,
make
> most of the space available to the /usr partition.
>
> 5) Continue the installation. You'll be asked about where to write the
> boot information. You DON'T want to write to the MBR(Master Boot Record).
> Write it to the linux partition itself (which is NOT going to be hda0 -
it's
> the other one).
>
> 6) You'll be asked about a boot disk. Make one. This will be the ONLY
way
> you can boot into linux after the install.
>
> 7) Finish the install process. Now, whenever you want to boot into
Linux,
> just insert the boot disk you made. It'll take you to Linux. If you want
> to boot into Windows, just don't put in the boot disk.
>
> That should do it. If you have questions, e-mail me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Happy installing. And I make no guarantee of warranties, durability, etc.
> If it screws up, don't hold me liable. :) I'm just pulling all these
> instructions out of my head.
>
> Michael
> http://www.anthologyproject.com
>
>
>
>
> Peteris Daugulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Can anyone help me with providing links to detailed manuals about
> > installing Linux on an Intel Celeron while preserving a Windows 98 file
> > system on a part of the hard drive and being able to switch between
> > Windows 98 and Linux?
> >
> > My problem is that I want to install Linux on my Intel Celeron which
> > currently runs under Windows 98 and interchangingly use Linux and
> > Windows (and do not have too much time to learn how to do it myself )
> >
> > Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Thanks in advance and Happy New Year to anyone who reads this!
> >
> > Peter
> >
>
>
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache Web Server Help
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:00:46 -0500
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, macrospy wrote:
>Thanks Peter for the reply, I also notice in the error log is pointing to
>/home/httpd/html/home/user/public_html when I use this URL
>http://localhost/~user instead to /home/user/public_html with the error message
>"access denied".
>
>I have set in httpd.conf - UserDir public_html and I thought if I do this -
>http://localhost/~user it should look for the index.html in
>/home/user/public_html.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Regards,
>Norbert.
>
I believe you usually have to add a trailing / ie: http://localhost/~user/ to
get it to work.
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
(Registered at: http://counter.li.org)
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
ICQ #83003404
AIM mooniesdl3
MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: network setting
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:03:27 -0500
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000, #ZHANG XIAOHUA# wrote:
>Hi, I am in a LAN, and i do not know the DNS server name, i asked our
>administrator, he just told me that he know nothing about Linux. Is it
>important? Can i ignore it during installation and set it after that? Or
>will it find antomaticly? Thanks very much.
If your administrator thinks DNS is just for Linux, you should get another
administrator.
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
(Registered at: http://counter.li.org)
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
ICQ #83003404
AIM mooniesdl3
MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "LadyHawke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: question_on_Linux_and_Windows98
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:07:10 -0600
I wasn't the one who asked the original question, but I have a question
about what you said in step 1. The main reason that I am having to ask
instead of reading documention is that Amazon.com is taking a long time to
ship my order, no local software sources outside of games.
My hard drive isn't partitioned. I am assuming from #1 that there isn't any
way of partitioning it outside of reformating? I hate to have to ask such a
basic question, but I need to make certain before I install anything else on
my computer. No point in doing it if I am going to have to reformat.....
(will be using Partition Magic). I have hopes that the software will get to
me before classes start back up in a week so that I actually have the time
to work with it.
LadyHawke
"Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:92ld2i$m61$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
snip snip>
> 1) Your hard drive must have two partitions to start. If it doesn't,
> you'll have to fdisk and reformat, losing all your Windows information.
You
> could add a second hard drive (which is what I have). That way, your hda
> (the primary drive) remains separate from your linux hard drive (hdb).
>
> 2) If everything is partitioned or you have a second hard disk installed,
> put in the linux CD and boot the computer from the CD (don't try to run
the
> CD from Windows). After a few moments, you'll get a black screen asking
you
> for the install type. I am familiar with the "text" version, so type
"text"
> and hit <enter>.
>
snip snip
> Happy installing. And I make no guarantee of warranties, durability, etc.
> If it screws up, don't hold me liable. :) I'm just pulling all these
> instructions out of my head.
>
> Michael
> http://www.anthologyproject.com
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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:32:26 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: What is Python and Kt (RH6.2)????
if u don't know what it is leave it checked so it can be installed b/c
ther is always a chance you need it and don't know it. As u get more
accustomed to what is needed and what isnt you can refine subsequent
installs to only install what you know u need.
its a matter of time and experience
Bo Berglund wrote:
>
> On 29 Dec 2000 20:46:01 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve) wrote:
> >
> >Gee sounds like you need to reinstall, and this time read the documentation
> >first.
> >Cheers
> >Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> But read what documentation?
> So far I have downloaded and printed some 2000 pages of HOWTO
> documents and I did not even come close to getting all!
>
> What I wanted to have is a fairly secure Linux box for my www testbed
> so on advice I decided to not install software I did not KNOW I would
> need. So I spent about two hours reading the dscription of every
> single package icon in the setup screens and deciding which to keep
> from that. :-0
>
> /Bo
>
> Bo Berglund
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:38:35 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem
[posted and mailed]
Bob Martin wrote:
>
> Glitch wrote:
> >
> > Anyone want to tell me why when I give Linux the same settings as I gave
> > it last time for my modem in conjunction with the setserial command
> > Linux doesn't see my modem this time even though last time it worked
> > first try?
> >
> > I got my modem to use COM3 now instead of COM5 and its irq is 12 and it
> > uses port 0xa000. I give setserial those parameters to any and all com
> > ports and i get no response from them. Why the hell shouldn't I get a
> > response from COm3?
> >
> > anyone want to shed some light on this subject which should have been
> > fixed 30 minutes ago when I first started working on it?
> >
> > thanks
>
> Unless you have a fairly old box, your ps/2 mouse is using IRQ 12. Did
> you move jumpers on the modem to configure it as COM3 ?
I hope u dont mind me emailing you personally. You dont have to respond
if u dont want. I just wanted to let u know i fixed the problem although
ido have a minor one coming up if i find out my usb webcam is supported.
I got into Linux to see what was using irq 12. I found out my uhci
driver was using irq 12. I had then remembered that I had edited the
rc.config file (for suse) so that USB would be started at boot. I
edited that file again so that wouldn't happen,rebooted, and that freed
up the irq. I then used setserial on com3 and it worked first time.
question is, am i still gonna have usb support? Right now the only
other option is to make my own entry in /sbin/init.d/rc2.d, or whatever
the directory is, so that a setserial command is executed before the USB
driver is loaded and hopefully the USB drivers would still be able to
use irq 12 even if the modem grabs it first. It obviuosly didn't work
with USB grabbing the irq first. If this doesn't work the situation
begs the question: why is Windows98 able to have both devices on the
same irq but Linux can't handle it?
thanks for the help
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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 16:45:33 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: major problem with suse 6.3
Michael Heiming wrote:
>
> Glitch wrote:
>
> > hello,
> >
> > I never thought Linux could damage other partitions but I guess it can,
> > not physically though.
> >
> > Both of my hard drives are on an HPT366 controller. I only have a cdrom
> > and dvd on my IDE controllers, those drives are hda and hdb
> > respectively. My Windows drive is the master on HTP366 controller and
> > its hde and my linux drive is the slave being hdf. Boot partition is
> > hdf1 and root is hdf3.
> >
> > The first problem i ran into was that I couldn't use all of my 15 gigs
> > for Linux. I could only partition the first 1027 cylinders which came
> > out to be 8 gigs even though before partitioning for Linux the
> > installation program was able to see the whole partition that I had of
> > Windows. The cylinders still weren't correct though for that partition.
> > But I figured I'll just use fdisk later on to assign the last 7 gigs to
> > a partition.
> >
> > I tried to put LILO on the MBR but since no hard drive existed there (my
> > cdrom is hda) I couldn't do that so I chose the MBR of the boot
> > partition which ended up not working. Later I changed the boot= variable
> > in lilo.conf to be /dev/hde1 so that I got a LILO prompt when I booted.
> > This worked and I could get into Linux.
> >
> > But I could not get into WIndows. I type in Win to get into Windows and
> > all I get in return is this:
> >
> > Loading windows...
> > LI
> >
> > and that's it. I have no clue why. I added the linear option to
> > lilo.conf and put 'compact' in but neither helped. I tried fdisk /mbr
> > from a dos bootdisk which had no affect (maybe b/c I had no MBR on
> > /dev/hda). Luckily I could do lilo -u and that got me back to loading
> > Windows.
> >
> > However when I load Windows I get illegal ops with explorer.exe about 3
> > times and a few other programs and within seconds the whole system is
> > frozen, every time I boot. Using a DOS bootdisk and typing 'win' at the
> > prompt I get 'system registry' not found and vfat errors. (i've since
> > reinstalled windows and so far things seem to be ok regarding that but i
> > can't boot into it while using LILO and im even afraid to do that now
> > considering what just happened with my windows partition messing up
> > somehow)
> >
> > So can anyone tell me what might be wrong?
> > Also, I noticed when Linux boots that it can't mount my Windows
> > partition. it says wrong fs type, bad superblock or too many filesystems
> > mounted already and therefore i cant mount automatically or manually my
> > windows partition, probably for the same reason I can't boot from it
> > either using LILO, even though regular booting w/o LILO works fine from
> > the UDMA66 controller.
> >
> > any ideas are appreciated.
>
> Hello,
>
> tons of info about lilo not booting the right way and the solutions for
> these problems,
> I had it only once, are on the net.
>
> Try:
>
>
>http://www.google.com/linux?q=LILO+hangs+on+startup+LI&site=search&restrict=linux&hl=en&lr=&safe=off
>
> or
>
> http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/kgw_lilo_errmsg.html
>
> Good luck
>
> Michael Heiming
well, that search string didn't work. I was noticing that all the
questions pertained to receiving LI and that was it. My problem was that
I was getting the corect LILO but then after choosing 'win' i got
another LI.
After doing a couple more searches using different search strings I came
upon a message that ended up helping me. The original problem was
caused by me manually setting the boot= parameter in lilo.conf to a
partition instead of a drive thus I ended up having 2 LILOs on hda. One
on the MBR and one on the boot sector of hda1. The whole situation is a
long story but i was able to sys C: to get back the boot sector of hda1.
I essentially had 2 LILOs installed which I ended up realizing before I
started searching on Google. I just didn't know how to fix it. But i
found a message sayign to sys the C drive and that worked. I then edited
lilo.conf so that boot=/dev/hda not /dev/hda1. Having LILO on hda1 also
explained why mount couldn't mount the windows partition: because it was
seeing LILO data there instead of a filesystem. I also got the drives
working on the HPT366 controller so everything is working good now.
thanks for your help.
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with xcdroast
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 21:42:25 GMT
Bernard wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> As anyone in here any experience with xcdroast ? I can't get it to
> work !
>
> I have downloaded xcdroast 0.96e. The installation went OK. My SCSI cd
> roaster (TEAC CD R55S) is being reckognized all right. Besides, it
> operates allright as a cd reader on my Red HAT 6.0 linux system (Kernel
> 2.2.5-15). The "SETUP" phasis goes OK. If I choose "Master CD" with a
> few Mb of data to burn into a cdrom, the image goes allright... even the
>
> cdburning seems to go allright : no error messages or anything.
> However, when I try to verify the burnt cd, I am being told that :
>
> "The "TOC" (table of contents) of this CD reports an impossible track
> size. This can be a bug in the cdrom firmware, or a defect on a non
> standard CD. Please try another CD-ROM drive, or forget your idea to
> copy this CD..."
>
> I have, of course, tried on more than one CD, which CDs I had previously
>
> checked using same cd burner on Windows environment and Windows driver.
> I have tested CD mastering with little data (about 20 Mb), and with
> more data (about 200 Mb), I tested the default unix system for cdrom
> files, as well as the msdos system... to no avail... always the same
> result and error messages. As far as burning speed is concerned, I
> started with speed 2, then speed 1, then speed zero ! I check the
> image contents each time, and it seems allright...
>
> Thanks for any hint on what might have gone wrong.
First thing I would say would be to go here: http://www.xcdroast.org/
and get xcdroast-0.98 and cdrecord-1.9
Then this link might help.
http://www.guug.de/~winni/linux/CD-Writing/CD-Writing.sgml
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