Linux-Setup Digest #317, Volume #19 Thu, 3 Aug 00 23:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: guest ftp user can't see files? (Ulrich Roth)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Zebee Johnstone)
HOWTO: Customize the login banner? (Ed)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: Framebuffer... (Michael Meissner)
Mandrake 7.1 / SB 64 ("Mark Thomas")
Installing Suse 6.4 from burned CD (Nagi Nasser)
Re: Trouble with corel linux -- mouse (justme)
Re: Setting clock on Linux machine ??? (E J)
Re: Linex integrity test - how? (E J)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Mike Stump)
Re: Partiton Problem (Flotsam)
HELP: Sound on VIA (McManus Leo Root DSP Consultant)
Installing Mandrake 7.1 ("Timothy H. Schilbach")
Re: Can Redhat 6.2 run on Umsdos filesystems(FAT32)?Answer to my E-mail PLEASE.
(Ligoth)
Re: Exchange Server for Linux?? ("Timothy H. Schilbach")
Re: Partiton Problem ("S. Charbonneau")
CD burning permission (Leong)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Mike Stump)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (John Hasler)
The Rage Fury Xpert2000 is not yet supported with Red Hat 6.2, ("Dave Stacey")
Re: CD burning permission (Ligoth)
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From: Ulrich Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: guest ftp user can't see files?
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 01:07:15 +0200
Hello Devon,
> I created a guest ftp user, but upon login, no files or dirs are shown. I
> created the bin,etc,lib dir with associated files in the /home/guest dir.
> When I use a normal user, I can see all files.
Such a bug was in SuSE 6.1. You had also to have a dev directory and
in this a device. But I don't remember which one it was, maybe tty. I
found the solution for this problem in the SuSE support database (sdb),
which you can find somewhere under www.suse.de.
Bye
Uli
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebee Johnstone)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 3 Aug 2000 22:37:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In comp.os.linux.setup on 03 Aug 2000 18:08:02 -0400
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Note that RMS specifically rejects as "free" any license that
>restricts the right to sell the work (therefore, the Aladdin license
>is not regarded as "free"). One can argue about how relevant the
>right to sell is in the absence of a right to keep secret, although
>it's certainly not irrelevant (Red Hat, Cygnus before they were bought
>by Red Hat, SuSE, and others all make money selling GPL software).
Isn't it more accurate to say they make money packaging GPL software
in a usable form and writing manuals to go with it?
Although they are also giving the manuals and the package away, they
seem to be making the money solely on the tangible hardcopies, CDROM
and dead tree.
And how much money are they really making from that?
Zebee
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From: Ed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HOWTO: Customize the login banner?
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 16:36:08 -0700
On RedHat 6.2, does anyone know how to customize the login banner? In my
inittab, the program mingetty is called (this is the default) for
establishing consoles. The man page for mingetty suggests that all I
need to do is edit /etc/issue, as it uses the contents of this file to
generate the login banner. However whenever I modify this file and then
run telinit 1 (to force init to run again) or even reboot, I find that
/etc/issue has returned to its unmodified state! There must be something
generating this file dynamically but I haven't been able to discover
what.
Basically all I want to do is add
/U currently signed on
to the login banner to display the number of users logged in.
/Ed
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:21:38 -0700
Robert Krawitz wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Maynard) writes:
>
> > I take particular offense at this, as I consider myself a Southerner. Once
> > again, you ignore basic facts and human rights, just as with your leftist
> > gun-grabbing position: selling your children into slavery harms them, but
> > the original software is now, and will forever be, free, NO MATTER WHAT
> > ANYONE ELSE DOES WITH IT. You seek to deny me the right to control my own
> > work merely because it is an improvement on your work. This is not freedom.
> > It is communism.
>
> It's every bit as communistic as the fact that you are not allowed to
> control a work that you write that is a derivative of e. g. a Star
> Trek episode.
>
> Now, as it happens I do believe that copyright is anti-free-market in
> the sense that the government intervenes to protect a private monopoly
> from competition (that's not usually called "communism"; it's more
> like mercantilism). I would personally be quite happy to give up the
> GPL in exchange for the complete abolition of copyright.
>
No. You're incorrect.
Copyright does not interfers with free market. In fact, copy rights
support free market. Because the copyrights owner can sell his/her work
any which ways s/he wants.
But copyright is anti *free loaders*
Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
-snipped-
k/
>
> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
>
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton
--
- Alex / blowfish.
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
KISS rules. That's why I use Easy Edit (ee). Small. Simple and fast.
:-)
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
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- My SAS (Sing-A-Song)Fingerprint -v.i007bond: Doe1(-a deer a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
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Subject: Re: Framebuffer...
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 03 Aug 2000 20:25:59 -0400
"Fredericv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does anyone have experience with framebuffer?
> Is it possible to use framebuffer to enhance the console look,
> but use the normal xserver to work in X?
> Or doesn't framebuffer really slow down X graphically?
It may depend on which video card you have. On my Matrox video cards, it works
fine to use the Matrox framebuffer device and the 3.3.6 and 4.0 X servers.
Similarly, my NeoMagic & TNT-1 X servers and the VESA framebuffer. I have
heard some X servers and framebuffer combinations don't play well together, but
off hand I'm not sure which ones these are.
--
Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc.
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +1 978-486-9304
Non-work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: +1 978-692-4482
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From: "Mark Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake 7.1 / SB 64
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:52:00 -0400
Hi
I have a problem getting sound from my Mankdrake 7.1 / SB AWE 64
combination. When I installed the OS, I saw the driver for the AWE 64 being
installed, so I asume that the install program found it. Once the OS was
installed, there was not any sound, so I used DrakConfig. The wizard did not
list anything under sound so I cound not configure it. I used the old
"sndconfig" program, and it found and played it with a problem using the
default settings. But is KDE has no sound and the CD player just goes
through empty motions.
Mark
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From: Nagi Nasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Installing Suse 6.4 from burned CD
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:56:34 -0400
I was successful booting an image that I copied onto a floppy disk using
rawrite to write the yast2 image. But when I boot up using the floppy I
have a problem getting the setup program to read from a cd that I burned
the installation files to. When I tell it to install from CD it returns
an error saying that it can find image. I tried selecting hard disk and
the giving it the path to the cd (/dev/hdc). The cd spins but yet it
returns an error saying that it cannot mount the drive. I've made the cd
using the ISO 9660 format, and the files were downloaded from
sunsite.unc.edu/linux/distributions/suse/6.4/suse/....
Any help would be appreciated
Nagi Nasser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: justme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with corel linux -- mouse
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:02:31 -0300
On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 21:02:33 -0300, justme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> So here are the questions....
> a) Where does corel keep the mouse config file ... I've tried
>grepping , finding , locating etc... no good. It does not recognize my
>"rare" authentic microsoft serial 2 button mouse on com1, irq 4
> I've tried manually editing the XF86Config file, making sym
>links , well, nothing worked. I've looked in all the obvious places.
Someone gave me the solution.
delete /dev/psaux
symlink /dev/ttyS0 to /dev/mouse (this I had done already)
edit the mouse file so it does not delete the /dev/mouse at every
boot.... (I also did this)
Thanks for all the replies :P
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting clock on Linux machine ???
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:32:54 -0700
You did nothing wrong. you changed the linux time but not the RTC (Real Time
Clock) clock.
When linux reboots, the linux time get its time from the RTC.
Here is the fix:
$ su -
password: <secret>
# timetool
Ed Bras wrote:
> My clock on the RedHat 6.2 is one hour behind.
> I then change it with date ......
> However, every time I restart the machine it contains the old time again ???
>
> What am I doing wrong ??
>
> Regards,
> Ed Bras
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linex integrity test - how?
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 18:39:44 -0700
Have you tried "tripwire"?. Make a base tripwire file on a reference
machine, then move the base tripwire file to the machine under test and
run tripwire again to see what files are missing or changed.
Yuval Yohai wrote:
> Hello
>
> Can any of you friend think of the best way to do a full Linux box
> integrity tests, in terms of libraries, environment and system
> variables, RPM db, boot/shutdown, hardware performance and integrity,
> and all whatever else I couldn't think about or which I don't know.
> I'm not talking about Security which is a hole deferent big issue.
>
> Thanks,
> yuval
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Stump)
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 02:09:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jay Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In the process, they want to destroy the concept that I'm entitled to
>benefit from my own labor.
This is a crude overstatement. You are free to live in your society
or ours, it is your choice. But, if you choose to live in ours, you
have to abide by our rules (and business plans and methods of
engineering and so on). We just happen to feel that in the end, our
method will prove to be better.
If it is better, and we destroy your ability to make money, well, this
is called efficiency and compete or die, sorry, live with it, or move
to some nation that doesn't believe in it. If it isn't better, then
how could we possibly win, what could you possibly fear, and how could
you use the phrase, they destroyed...?
What we want to do, is to innovate a new kinda of efficiency into the
marketplace. Sorry if you don't want to, or if it will hurt you.
>It is communism.
If communism was efficient, it would have won. If GPL was communism,
it can't possibly win. Seems to be winning so far? Why is that?
Maybe because it isn't communism. Maybe because it is capitalism?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flotsam)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Partiton Problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 02:20:23 GMT
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:13:41 GMT, Martin Racette wrote:
>I've installed Mandrake 7.1, and since I
>let it create it's own partitions
>instead of creating them with Partition
>Magic, I have a problem with the other
>partition on that same disk. I can't
>access them with Partition Magic, nor
>with OS/2's FDISK.
>
>The error message I have with Partition
>Magic is as follow:
>
>"This error occurs under some operating
>systems when logical partitions are not
>chained together in the expected order......"
It's impossible to get a _precise_ picture of what this means
from this description. I know what a chain of logical partitions
is _supposed_ to look like. Since the Mandrake installer left it
in this situation, perhaps it would be readable by Linux cfdisk:
[root.....]# cfdisk /dev/?d?
Press keys: p t for print table, and enter filename;
p s for print sectors, and a different filename.
Then if you could post the contents of those two files
_si_vous_plait_ then it would be perfectly clear what is
the situation.
>If you have any advise how to correct this
It might be related to a known problem in the Mandrake 7.1
installation program, which causes Windows to show that the
D: drive has disappeared. You didn't describe this kind of
trouble. It's impossible to say without more information.
La bonne chance,
F.
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From: McManus Leo Root DSP Consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP: Sound on VIA
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 16:05:51 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a new Socket A Athalon motherboard with a VIA chipset with
intergrated SoundBlaster Pro compatable 'sound card'. I run it on
WinDowZZ 98 with no problems, (So I can play Tomb Raider!!). I have just
installed SuSe 6.4 and have loaded the module drivers OK as I see them
when I do my cat /dev/sndstat, but I cannot get any 'noise' out of them.
I have selected the SoundBlaster Pro support in the modules.conf, but
this is for a specific SoundBlaster sound chip, xx3070 or similar.
Any pointers?
Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks
Leo
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From: "Timothy H. Schilbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: it.comp.linux.setup,linux.act.laptops
Subject: Installing Mandrake 7.1
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 21:21:14 -0500
Hello all...
I am doing a network install of Linux Mandrake 7.1 (Air) on my IBM 760CD
Laptop. I am using a PCMCIA Ethernet II Credit Card Adapter. The
installation disk does not have this as an option and I have tried several
on the disk to no avail.
I have enabled PCMCIA services using the PCMCIA disk in addition to the
Network installation disk that mandrake provides. I would appreciate if
someone could render me a few suggestions. Thank you in advance.
--
Timothy H. Schilbach
Alpha Omega Design Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1-877-263-7094
Visit our website at www.aodinc.com
Highspeed internet connectivity and web hosting services
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ligoth)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Redhat 6.2 run on Umsdos filesystems(FAT32)?Answer to my E-mail
PLEASE.
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 02:24:00 GMT
Stefan Viljoen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If you mean "run on" such as "execute from / or boot from" the answer as far
>as I know is no - Linux must boot from a native Linux partition formatted as
>an Ext2. (Right?)
Not entirely correct. For example, my / partition is ReiserFS, not Ext2.
The thing is that you must have support for the filesystem either built into
the kernel or loaded as a module in an initrd or you will get a kernel panic.
--
Anton Graham GPG ID: 0x18F78541
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request
I remember Ulysses well... Left one day for the post office to mail a
letter, met a blonde named Circe on the streetcar, and didn't come back for
20 years.
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From: "Timothy H. Schilbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Exchange Server for Linux??
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 21:30:48 -0500
Why not add an NT Exchange server and use SAMBA to connect too it?
--
Timothy H. Schilbach
Alpha Omega Design Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1-877-263-7094
Visit our website at www.aodinc.com
Highspeed internet connectivity and web hosting services
"djmiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:jQ5i5.56750$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is there anything that functions like an Exchange server for Linux, that
> will store calendar/contacts/e-mail/etc. and allow MS Outlook to connect
to
> it?
>
>
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From: "S. Charbonneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Partiton Problem
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:34:55 -0400
Salut Martin,
Maybe you could try working on your partition with tools like aefdisk or
Ranish partition manager.
I use both together with success. What I usually do is that once I have
partitioned the disks like I want, I use the OS specific tools to prepare
the partitions for use.
Maybe �a peut t'aider.
Bye.
"Martin Racette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi guys,
>
> I've installed Mandrake 7.1, and since I
> let it create it's own partitions
> instead of creating them with Partition
> Magic, I have a problem with the other
> partition on that same disk. I can't
> access them with Partition Magic, nor
> with OS/2's FDISK.
>
> The error message I have with Partition
> Magic is as follow:
>
> "This error occurs under some operating
> systems when logical partitions are not
> chained together in the expected order.
> DOS, OS/2, Windows 95, Windows 98, and
> Windows NT require that logical
> partitions be chained together in
> ascending order. Some other operating
> systems do not require this. For
> example, some versions of the Linux
> FDISK utility chain logical partitions
> together in the order they are created.
> This error message identifies a very
> dangerous situation; using the DOS FDISK
> in this situation can cause loss of one
> or more partitions. "
>
> I need to resize some of the partitions
> that are access with OS/2, and WIN98
>
> If you have any advise how to correct
> this I would appreciate
>
> file://-------------------------
> Thank you in advance
>
> Merci a l'avance
>
> Martin
>
> ICQ #48552954
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From: Leong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: CD burning permission
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 02:43:41 GMT
I got a CD burner in my PC running Mandrake 7.1. It works fine with
KisoCD and CDRToaster, but only if I log in as root. I would like to
grant particular group of users the privilege to burn CDs. Does anyone
have an idea how?
My CDRW is connected to scsi card, device /dev/scd0
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Stump)
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 02:36:51 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jay Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Okkay, where am I going wrong? As I understand it, communism is a
>system where one does not have the right to benefit from the fruits
>of one's own labors.
Explain how I didn't get paid for the software that I wrote while I
was at Cygnus. Explain how I forced to work for them. Explain how I
was force to give them my code. I don't get it.
My take on it is, I wanted a job, they offered me one, I took it, they
paid me, I wrote code for them. The owned the code after this point,
and they choose to assign the code to the FSF.
>Instead, all production is pooled, and redistributed to the populace
>more or less evenly, perhaps adjusted by individual
>circumstances. "From each according to his abilities, to each
>according to his needs." is, as I understand it, the defining rule.
>
>This fits RMS's utopia well: programmers are denied the right to be
>compensated for their labor,
My experience doesn't fit your view.
>instead being forced to give away their output in return for some
>nebulous compensation of unspecified type and value.
My experience doesn't fit your view.
Maybe you just don't get it. Let me try and explain, the GPL places a
burden to perform upon those that might want money from it. If you
perform, you get money. If you don't want to perform, than it isn't a
good model to choose. If you don't want to perform, then in fact, you
will starve trying to get paid. The second you get money from it, for
that work, you have been compensated. There is no concept of partial
compensation in the model, it is all or nothing. It has to be this
way, as otherwise, how is money ever limited? A future promise? What
is that promise isn't fulfilled? The GPL guarantees the promise by a
mandate at the time of delivery for full compensation. Why limit
money, easy, how can it be efficient without a limit?
By doing this, we encourage people to come out with incremental bits
of software. This is good (efficient), as then people can find some
benefit today (instead of waiting for the software until later) and
the software can be reused (wihout cost, dare I say, for free? Yes, I
think I will, just to annoy John.).
Now, they question is, is it more efficient that other mechanisms?
Good question. I don't know. We'll see, I suspect that within 25
years, we may have a partial answer to that question. Within 100, it
will be obvious, even to people like John.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 02:00:35 GMT
blowfish writes:
> Copyright does not interfers with free market.
The express purpose of copyright is to suppress the free market in copies
of copyrighted works.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "Dave Stacey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The Rage Fury Xpert2000 is not yet supported with Red Hat 6.2,
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 03:06:45 GMT
Does this mean there is no point in installing Linux?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ligoth)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: CD burning permission
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 03:06:16 GMT
Leong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I got a CD burner in my PC running Mandrake 7.1. It works fine with
>KisoCD and CDRToaster, but only if I log in as root. I would like to
>grant particular group of users the privilege to burn CDs. Does anyone
>have an idea how?
Change the permissions for /usr/bin/cdrecord to 4710, then chgrp the program
to the group of users you want to have access. After that, they will be
able to run the program as if they were root, and for all others the file is
not executeable.
--
Anton Graham GPG ID: 0x18F78541
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request
What no spouse of a writer can ever understand is that a writer is working
when he's staring out the window.
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