Linux-Setup Digest #361, Volume #19 Wed, 9 Aug 00 15:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: rpm 4.0=major screwup for RH6.2 install ("ne...")
Re: Linux on AMD ("ne...")
Re: Linux on AMD (David C.)
Re: Linux on AMD ("Clifton T. Sharp Jr.")
Re: KDE: Setup Apps to run in virtual desktops. ("ne...")
Re: DSL Modem ("ne...")
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Copyright Complexities ("Ninewands")
Re: SuSe 6.3 install problems ("Linux Rox")
Re: ftpd and telnetd;;; (Buschman)
Re: Dual Boot Problems (Gary Jones)
nameserver, server slow when disconnected ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DA: Mandrake 7.0 install error (DW)
linux 6.1 hdd problem (rithaliya)
Kernel 2.2.16 not working with ATAPI IDE CDRoms (Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez)
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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm 4.0=major screwup for RH6.2 install
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 17:20:57 GMT
On Aug 9, 2000 at 11:58, Gene Heskett eloquently wrote:
>Help! I just installed rpm 4.0 -62 something from the rpm.org site
>because everything related to php4 needs rpm 4 to allow installation.
>
>rpm upgraded itself from 3.0.4 just fine, but now anything else we try to
>install reports it can't install because of several pages worth of missing
>dependencies, which when we go checking, are indeed installed and available.
>
>Obviously, we can't even re-install rpm-3.0.4 either.
>
>How do we fix?
I think you need to convert the olde database format
to the new database format. mam rpm should give you
the command to use.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 17:28:06 GMT
On Aug 9, 2000 at 10:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently wrote:
>He're something in the gee, whizz! department :
>
>I swaped out p2 350, and put in a amd tbird. ( just changed the MB and
>CPU)
>After I got it booting right, I hooked up the hdd, and rebooted. the
>familiar lilo boot prompt greeted me ( rh 6.0, w98 and w2k were on the hdd,
>from when I was using the P2 ). Chose linux, and I was at run level 3, as
>usual, network was up and running. Logged in, and got into X .
>Yup, definitely faster. Enabled dma transfers on the CD, and proceeded to
>play mp3's while I downloaded windows drivers for the video cards.
Questions. What do I go for, Socket A or Slot A?
What mobo would you recommend?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: 09 Aug 2000 13:30:47 -0400
"ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Questions. What do I go for, Socket A or Slot A? What mobo would you
> recommend?
AMD's new chips are all coming out for Socket A. Slot A is in the
process of being phased out.
In terms of performance, I don't think it will matter much.
If you get a good deal on a Slot-A board/CPU go for it. But don't
expect to be upgrading your CPU on that board. The Thunderbird and
Duron are both Socket-A packages.
-- David
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From: "Clifton T. Sharp Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 12:34:44 -0500
shook wrote:
> I am thinking of setting up Linux on an AMD machine. Did you have any
> problem with the install or after the install?
1. I changed from a P200 to a K6-3 400 on my old machine. Not a single
problem, lots of extra speed.
2. I took the hard drive over to my new (as of last November) Athlon 600.
No problems, lots of extra speed. Compiled at least two kernel upgrades
over the time, no problems, lots of speed.
Problems with AMD:
1. You'll sit tilted to the right. That's from the thickness of all that
extra money in the wallet in your left hip pocket.
2. You won't be sending an Intel unique CPU identifier to anyone who has
the hack and asks for it.
3. You'll just have to put up with the extra speed. Poor you.
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Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde,linux.help,linux.net,comp.os.linux
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE: Setup Apps to run in virtual desktops.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 17:34:46 GMT
On Aug 9, 2000 at 02:24, Steven Carlson eloquently wrote:
>I currently have four virtual desktops setup (Desktop, Telnet, Netscape,
>and Konsole) and have setup my box to execute all of the programs I want
>open when I boot (i.e. telnet connection, netscape, etc..). Now what I
>would like to know is how I can force these programs (and others I
>execute later on during my session) to go to a specific virtual desktop
>and if possible to load up the last location in which the program was
>previously at during last execution.
For KDE < 1.89 use kstart "/path/to/program" -desktop x
where x is the desktop number. Once they are up, resize
them and close. KDE should then use the last size if
session management is enabled.
[...]
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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DSL Modem
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 17:47:04 GMT
On Aug 9, 2000 at 11:50, S Varadarajan eloquently wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am sure this question has been asked repeatedly, but I will
>ask anyway (since I couldn't find the answer elsewhere).
>
>I recently got a DSL connection with static ip address (always on),
>using an extern DSL modem (a CISCO 675 modem). I would like
>to network three other PCs (W95, W98 and NT4.0) on a LAN
>to this extern DSL connection. Previously I was using 56K dialup
>and I used the ip-chains on a Linux server to link my LAN to external
>internet. How do I do the same with the DSL connection. The DSL
>connection is connected to my Linux server (a file server
>and internet gateway). Do I need a PC with two NICs?
What was the hardware conection between the pcs
when you had the 56k dialup. You will need a anotha
nic in the pc connected to the DSL. This nic will
connect to a hub which then connects ti the other
pcs on the LAN. Check the IP Masquerading, IPChains,
Net and Networking Overview HOWTOs for more details
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 05:33:40 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But with many, if not most major corperations. If they do not spend all
> the money in the budget, then, they'll get less money for their
> department on the next round of budgeting.
> So. They have to spend all the money. One way or the other.
> (I'm not talking about small business here. I'm talking about those that
> get tens of million of dollar, or more for IT budget every year.)
But still, it's a very rare occurrance that departments run UNDER budget.
Saving money on software would release that money for a few home comforts or
whatever, like an office redecoration/refit, hardware upgrades, extra staff
traning and incentives, etc...
Or don't these managers have an imagination?
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From: "Ninewands" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Copyright Complexities
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:52:40 -0500
Reply-To: "Ninewands" <newsgroup>
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when [EMAIL PROTECTED] would
say:
> >In comp.os.linux.misc blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> John Hasler wrote:
> >>>
> >>> blowfish writes:
> >>> > I did have many of my work copyrighted (not computer related, but in
> >>> > arts.)
> >>>
> >>> No. You have _all_ of your works copyrighted. Copyright is
automatic.
> >>>
> >> No. You have to file for copyrights on each piece of work, or as a
> >> batch. It's NOT automatic.
> >
> >Yes it is!
> >You write something, it is YOURS until you pass those rights on to
someone
> >else. If you can PROVE you wrote it, you can prove your copyrights to it!
> >
> >You do NOT have to register it with anyone.
>
> That (automatic copyright) has been true, in the US, since 1978.
>
> Before that, filing was needed in order to put copyright into effect.
Not entirely true. The jurisprudence of the U.S. is absolutely full of case
law regarding the enforcement of *common law* copyright. It is well
established, and always has been, that copyright comes into being when the
work is created. These rules applied even before the PTO was established.
As stated below, registration of the copyright is merely additional evidence
of its existence.
> >> I've been doing this for ages.
Good, but I would have expected a more accurate set of statements from
someone who has as much experience as you claim. As for me, I practiced
law, including litigating patent and trademark cases, for a number of years.
> >Fine, if you like that kind of thing. All that does is add to your
portfolio
> >of "proof" of ownership. Any way of proof is fine, including putting a
copy
> >of your work into the hands of someone trustworthy, like a bank in a
sealed
> >and dated envelope.
>
> In the US, you _do_ have to file copyright with the US Copyright Office
> before you go to court to pursue a case of copyright infringement.
Not so. You can litigate a copyright case in the state courts under a
theory of common law copyright infringement if you desire to do so. If you
can establish a basis for federal jurisdiction, you can do so in the federal
courts. With regard to access to the courts, the only thing registration is
required for is to automatically establish jurisdiction in the federal
courts.
> And there are some statutory penalties for copyright infringement that
> only apply if you filed with the Office fairly soon after producing
> the work. (That means you might get _extra money_ out of infringers.)
This is the nut of the question. Proof of damages is often EXTREMELY
difficult in cases of copyright infringement. Registration of the copyright
IS required in order to obtain entitlement to the statutory remedies, which
require no proof.
> So if you expect copyright on your works to be infringed, it would be
> a very _good_ idea to file early and file often.
File early, yes ... once for each incident of "creation" (meaning reduction
of an *idea* to tangible form (additional note ... techniques are NOT
copyrightable ... they MAY be patentable, but that's another story ... ))
... file often? I don't THINK so ... copyright survives the death of the
copyright owner by seventy years under current U.S. law.
> But if you don't expect infringement, then it may be reasonable to wait
> to do the filing until there _is_ an infringement. At that point, your
> lawyer will likely tell you that you MUST file right away.
> --
Not a really good idea ... unless you have a LOT of proof available that the
infringer INTENTIOANLLY copied your design/work ... waiting MAY lead to the
infringer owning the registered copyright ... then you are left with the
common-law remedies ... as well as a HUGE lawyer bill litigating the case.
Regards,
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From: "Linux Rox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SuSe 6.3 install problems
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:25:36 -0700
You may have some unsupported hardware such as the chipsets on your
motherboard.
"Ray Lassiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ADQ74.2280$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I successfully installed the os the other day, but soon came into
problems.
> First, the os would hang and I would have to restart. Eventually, this
> caused problems on boot. Finally, it would no longer boot. BTW, I used
> LILO. So, I figured I would just perform a fresh install of the os. I
> re-partitioned and formatted the drives(2 seperate) and tried to
re-install.
> I got past the loading linux and then some kernal test messages. Then I
> recieved the error
> Kernal panic : VFS could not mount root fs at 2:00. That was it??
>
> Prior to this message I was getting a message:
> kernal panic: VFS insert root floppy and press enter.
>
> Problem is that I don't have a root floppy other that the boot disk that
> came with the software.
>
> Please, any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Ray
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Buschman)
Subject: Re: ftpd and telnetd;;;
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:13:28 GMT
I am having the exact same problem as this guy except I'm using
Mandrake 6.1. OK I went through the RPMS on my install disk and found
these entries:
anonftp-2.8-3mdk.i586.rpm
ftp-0.10-3mdk.i586.rpm
gftp-2.0.3-1mdk.i586.rpm
lftp-2.0.4-1mdk.i586.rpm
ncftp-3.0beta18-4mdk.i586.rpm
popt-1.3-2mdk.i586.rpm
telnet-0.12-10mdk.i586.rpm
telnet-server-0.12-10mdk.i586.rpm
tftp-0.10-4mdk.i586.rpm
wu-ftp-2.5.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
So why do all these files end in mdk.i586.rpm? How do I install these
files? Granted I am able to telnet and ftp FROM my machine, just not
TO my machine. Which of these services will allow me to do that?
Thanks,
Buschman
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 09:42:03 -0700, vururu
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I installed mandrake 7.1 server version with high security
>option (bad idea for sure!!). I think that it could be the
>reason why when i try ftp connection from a client, i got:
>
>Connecting to: mandrake
>Connection Established
>Error connecting to: mandrake
>
>I can ping the machine, inetd is working process
>What could be the reason why cannot get ftp services...
>Could anyone help me again,
>Would like to say thanks for all people for theiere advices and
>help.
>
>vuru
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Jones)
Subject: Re: Dual Boot Problems
Date: 9 Aug 2000 18:25:32 GMT
David Snead wrote:
> I just added 64 MB of RAM on my computer, which Linux did not
> recognize. I went into LILO to add the line "append MEM=192MB", and I
> got the new memory support I wanted. The problem is now I can't boot
> into windows.
Stupid Q, maybe, but if you take it out does Windows work?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: nameserver, server slow when disconnected
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:23:58 GMT
we have a configuring problem with a suse 6.3 libox, wich is the
internet-gateway and firewal for a small lan, permanent internet access.
It also is the nameserver and mailserver for our domain, secondlevel
domain with fixed official ip.
it shows up that all access to the server is very slow when it has no
access to the internet. during setup there was a similar problem, a
consultant said something about name resolution by root dns server and
reverse resolution. the prob disappeared when our domain finally was
registered with the denic.
i do not understand why a server has to do dns lookups and reverse
lookups to perform simple local tasks, also i don't know exactly what
reverse resolution is, how it is implemented and configured.
isn't it possible to configure the nameserver in a way that he
- does everything local that can be done local,
- works in the same manner as a isolated server when being isolated from
the internet,
- is capable serving all functions when conected to the web?
can a caching nameserver help anything, can we configured it additional
to the other?
we don not want to cut the line for fun, but had real problems when the
router on telco side was broken and we not only missed web access, but
took 30 minutes to read the folder list into our imap clients, which is
similar to no mail access.
Thanks, Bernhard S. <test1test>@deja.com
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From: DW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DA: Mandrake 7.0 install error
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:29:58 GMT
You know Dennis. You just answered one of questions. I have the same
problem with my system, the error message that is. I sucessfully installed
Mandrake 7.0 with 16 megs of RAM and now that I've upped it to 32 megs I
get the error. I'll try it again with 16 megs and then up to 32. See if I
can fool it.
Dennis W
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Dennis wrote:
>
>
> >I'm new to this myslf, but I had a similar error with Mandrake 7.0, and
I
> >have the ATI Rage Fury Pro graphics card as well. I get the "cannnot
open
> >display" errors... I found a How-To for that card at
> >http://www4.ncsu.edu/~distclai/rage128-howto.html, buthaven't figured
it
> >out yet. Let me know if you have any luck...
> >
> >--Grady
>
> I got it working. Had to to a [boot: linux text] for a text-based
install.
> Mandrake believes my problem was my 32Meg of RAM. Says the minimum is
> 64Meg...Dennis
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From: rithaliya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux 6.1 hdd problem
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:30:08 GMT
My redhat Linux does not support hard disk of more then 8 Gb. If required
to use more than 8 GB what will be the process for it.
Thanking you.
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From: Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Kernel 2.2.16 not working with ATAPI IDE CDRoms
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:00:16 +0200
Hi all,
After getting Linux 2.2.16 compiled and running, I've detected that
the driver for ATAPI CDROM drives isn't working properly. Actually,
it's doing really bad.
At boot time, they are properly recognized and no error or warning
message is produced. However, when the cdrom tray is ejected and close,
the kernels yields a lot of error messages like the following:
=================
ATAPI device hdb:
Unknown Error Type: No sense data -- (Sense key=0x00)
No additional sense information -- (asc=0x00, ascq=0x00)
The failed "Prevent/Allow Medium Removal" packet command was:
"1e 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 "
=================
It doesn't matter wether a CDRom is in the tray or not. The sequence of
error messages always takes place. This is just the beginning. When
forcing the mount of a cdrom, either through gitmount or direct mount
commands, the system simple gets frozen. There is no way to recover it:
neither keyboard, mouse, network or serial ports respond.
I've checked this problem in a number of different machines, Pentium,
PII, and PIII, equipped with different ATAPI CDROM drives : (e.g.
hdb: BCD 24XM CD-ROM, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdb: ACER CD-767E/O, ATAPI CDROM drive
How anybody experience this problem? Do you know of a solution? Any
patch for the driver?
Thanks in advance!
Jos� Manuel
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