Linux-Setup Digest #404, Volume #19 Tue, 15 Aug 00 08:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Mandrake 7.0 freezing during install (Hawk)
Re: Partition Size Advice ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: 3C905-TX NIC (Thomas Rasmussen)
Re: 386 machine to be installed linux (^)
Recommendation on NNTP server. ("Joe Wong")
Re: 386 machine to be installed linux (linux)
Adding user from text file ("Opps!")
Re: Install Problems (Kichi Leung)
Re: newbie: trouble installing redhat 6.2 (Davide Bianchi)
Re: Windows 2000 and Linux (root)
GeForce GTS running with X ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Dosemu problem ("alex")
Enabling Module support in RedHat (James)
Re: Enabling Module support in RedHat (Davide Bianchi)
Re: Adding user from text file (Zebee Johnstone)
Re: Telnet/FTP Problem as root (Jon)
Re: Enabling Module support in RedHat (Colinet Remy)
Re: 386 machine to be installed linux (Colinet Remy)
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From: Hawk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mandrake 7.0 freezing during install
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:34:07 -0400
I've been having trouble installing Mandrake 7.0 since I upgraded my
system, and I was wondering if anyone could lend some assistance.
Before my old Motherboard died, I was running an AMD 486DX-133 w 32
megs or non-EDO RAM. When I attempted an install on this system, I had
no problems whatsoever.
This week, I upgraded my system to a Celeron 533 system /w 32 megs of
PC-100 RAM.
It seems that whenever I attempt to install M 7.0 the installer causes
the sytem to freeze when it is detecting SCSI (I have no SCSI devices
on my system.)
If anyone can help me solve this curious puzzle, I'd be most grateful.
:)
Sincerely,
Rob Ireland
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Size Advice
Date: 15 Aug 2000 07:55:41 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8n6111$40g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
:>: Apart from weight of tradition, why do usr, root and home have to be
:>: different partitions ?
:>
:>So that /usr can be read-only and /home can be read-write.
: What's so great about /usr being ro ?
So that you (or some hacker, or some rogue program) doesn't write to
it.
:> So that everytime you mess up your home
:>partition you don't also mess up your /.
: But why should you mess up your home partition ? Indeed how can you ?
Oh, I do it every 10 minutes or so. Every time the kernel driver I'm
writing crashes and takes out the system, causing a reboot while the
readwrite file systems are in an unclean state. Then I have to wait
while everything is checked out on the FS parts that weren't readonly,
resolve all foulups manually (usually the log files are heavily
double-blocked, but they're on /var, not on my precious /home), hold
my breath and hope my source code is still there ...
And then there are all those people running a vulnerable or flakey http
server from out of their /home.
:> And vice versa. So that you
:>can comfortably clone your OS without also cloning your own files.
: Can't this just be done by keeping user files under /usr and managing
: files rather than partitions ?
Oh it can. But it's much simpler to restrict tar to a partition
boundary rather than some nebulous mental line that you hoped you've
never crossed. Did you add stuff in /usr/local only?
:> And
:>vice versa. So you can upgrade or multi-install in functional units.
:>Etc. Etc.
: Hmmmm... OK.
:>He forgot to list /var as a separate partition. That's quite important.
:>I really hate runaway log files growing to swamp / or /home.
: So it's just to limit the size of a file system ?
For /var, that is a good reason. Try "yes > /var/tmp/yes" and tell me how
comfortable your system feels afterwards. But a better reason is that
/var gets All Fouled Up Very Often. It's the highly variable area of
the disk.
:>If you really don't know this and you aren't just trolling, go check
:>out the Partition-HOWTO.
: No, not trolling, just curious.
: I had thought of doing a custom instal but wondered if my ideas on
: partitioning would be making myself a headache for later.
:>There are some legitimate reasons for making a one partition system.
:>They boil down to "the owner is an idiot and/or doesn't care about
:>preserving and maintaining his system, so he might as well do the
:>laziest thing available, as he'll throw it all away tomorrow anyhow".
: I have one partition disks on other OSs and I've never found it a
: problem.
Then you've never had a problem. That should make you very very nervous
...
: I've also had one partition Unix systems without regret. I'm just
: seeing if the dogma stems from sound reasoning or just a fear that the
: sky will fall in if tradition is not followed.
And what about "preserving and maintaining" your other OS's. How much
luck have you had with them! What happened the last time your scsi
controller on the sun blew a skalally while fsck was running?
Peter
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Subject: Re: 3C905-TX NIC
From: Thomas Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:16:11 GMT
>>>>> "Herb" == Herb Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Herb> I'm on a short fuse with this one and RH 6.0 doesn't like the
Herb> 3C905-TX card. Is there a simple answer? /etc/conf.modules
Herb> shows a 3C59x at eth0.
3c59x is the correct module for 3c905(B)-TX, so unless you have
problems with the network connection then everything is correct. I'm
using this module on my computer without any problems.
/Thomas
--
"To alcohol! The cause of - and solution to - all of life's problems!"
-- Homer Simpson
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From: ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 386 machine to be installed linux
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:25:00 GMT
Thank all of you very much!
According to your posts, it seems that Slackware is preferred Linux distribution in
most
of people's eyes. Then I 'd like to ask a question, if we consider an average machine
as a
workstationa of Linux at present, which Linux Distribution is the better?
1. Slackware
2. Redhat
3. Suse
4. others.
I know this is a newbie's question. If you don't mind, please drop me a line. Thanks in
advance!
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.setup on Sat, 12 Aug 2000 23:51:06 +0800
> linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi Linux guru,
> >I'd like to make my 386 machine a Linux box.
> > * CPU AMD 386 + FPU
> > * 4 MB RAM
> > * 500 MB Hardisk
> > * Floppy driver
> > * CD-ROM
> >
> >When I install red-hat 5.1, an error message is always display as "Out of memory".
> >
> >Please help me figure out if there's a solution to install linux onto my old
>machine.
> >
> >What kind of linux or xxBSD can be used for this case?
> >
>
> HUnt a tiny linux. The main distros are a bit too bloated now. You
> won't be able to run X of course but you can run others.
>
> head to www.google.com, browse their web directory and you'll find
> stuff there, try Computers/software/operating
> systems/linux/distributions/tiny linux
>
> Plenty of small stuff there that will work. YOu can for example use
> "Toms' Root/boot disk" and just boot it from the floppy each time, or
> make your own via micro linux or small linux.
>
> Zebee
>
> --
> SAGE-AU: The System Administrator's Guild. www.sage-au.org.au
> To advance the profession of System Administration by raising
> awareness of the need for System Administrators, and educating
> System Administrators in technical as well as professional issues.
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From: "Joe Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Recommendation on NNTP server.
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:15:04 +0800
Hello,
I would like to know your suggestion on setting up NNTP server on linux,
what I need to do is:
ISP News feed <-> HQ Office <-> branch office
The idea is only selected groups will be transfer from HQ office to branch
office. The people in branch office can read and post article in the local
server. The local server will then push newly posted article to HQ office
and in turn, those articles will be posted to the ISP news feed. Can the
INND do this?
TIA.
- Joe
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From: linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 386 machine to be installed linux
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:37:17 GMT
Thank all of you very much!
According to your posts, it seems that Slackware is preferred Linux distribution in
most
of people's eyes. Then I 'd like to ask a question, if we consider an average machine
as a
workstationa of Linux at present, which Linux Distribution is the better?
1. Slackware
2. Redhat
3. Suse
4. others.
I know this is a newbie's question. If you don't mind, please drop me a line. Thanks in
advance!
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From: "Opps!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adding user from text file
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:06:27 +0800
Hi, I am using RedHat 6.2 ,and I want to create 1000 user to my server.
I already have a text file which look like below
user1
user2
user3
user4
user5
.
.
.
.
What I want is creat user account for each user listed in the file with
the passwd same as the user name,also ,I want the dir public_html
created and chmod to 711 and all of them will belong to a user group
call staff.Can any one tell me how to do it?Should I need a script or
some utilities to complete the task? IF yes...plz help me to write the
script...thx alot..!!! ^_^
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From: Kichi Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install Problems
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:58:00 +0800
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, B+Dcouple wrote:
>I've been trying to install Linux/Caldera on a 486. It's been
>getting stuck on
>"Calibrating delay loop.." and goes no further.
>
Caldera is not too 486-friendly in my experience as well.
If you are installing version 2.2 and above try using lisa boot diskettes
instead of the default (graphical) lizard bootdisks.
But that's my 2 cents' ....
(BTW, when I tried to install caldera on my old compaq 486, the install failed
even when using lisa bootdisks.)
=====
Kichi Leung
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: newbie: trouble installing redhat 6.2
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:10:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:58:52 -0500, MunkE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a spare hard drive I'm installing linux on. it has a fat32 File
>system. For some reason whenver I try to install it to said hard drive,
>it refuses to believe there's any place to install it to. is there a way
>to work around this? Should I format the the hard drive to a FAT16? if
>so, where would I find the neccassary utilities?
Remove the existent partition and leave the installation to create its
own partition. To remove the partitio you can use FDISK (from Windows
or DOS).
Davide
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 and Linux
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:16:05 +0200
Keith wrote:
> On Tue, 09 May 2000 23:30:07 GMT, David Pitfield-Perry
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi, I need some help, I made the mistake of loading Windows 2000, and
> >would like to install Linux, on to the same machine, how can i do this,
> >the machine is partitioned into 4 drives, my "D" has 2Gb of space free,
> >this is where i would install Linux, is there a guide on what to do and is
> >this possible.-- Look forward to an answer soon. David
>
> Get a Linux CD and install without LILO and then
> use a floppy boot disk is about the easiest
> way.
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Keith
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Especially when it has been reported that people are running
> Seti-At-Home on user2. Migawsh. What part of "____-at-home"
> don't these people understand??? Randal L. Schwartz
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
or, you can install lilo on the first sector of the linux partition, do a
dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dos/c/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
and in C:\boot.ini add a line at the bottom:
C:\bootsect.lnx="Linux, the right operating system"
remember to always make a new bootimg with dd if you install a new kernel or
run /sbin/lilo
and you boot your linux off of your ntloader :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GeForce GTS running with X
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:25:11 GMT
has anyone got his GeForce GTS card working under X?
i tried XFreeSetup and also SuSEs SAX, but i never get a picture
when i test the xserver with several settings...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dosemu problem
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:15:16 +0800
Reply-To: "alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have read dosemu-howto and quickstart, but still do not know what the next
step to do(may be it is too technical
for me).
I use dosemu-0.99.10.4 that comes along with RH6.0
I have type
/var/lib/dosemu/setup-dosemu
but not works, just prompt bash: no command found
then I type
/var/lib/dosemu/setup-hdimage
this time something new prompts, but still a error occurs:
/var/lib/dosemu/dexe/check-mtools : file not found or directory not found
if I want to use the dos editior(edit.com) in linux, what should I do
next?
Thanks in advance
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James)
Subject: Enabling Module support in RedHat
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:37:20 GMT
On my RedHat 2.2 system, I'm trying to install Video for Linux 2 so I
can use my Winnov video and audio capture card. This requires me to
configure Video for Linux 2 as a module, and to rebuild the kernel if
necessary.
Instructions ask me to give the following command:
make module; make modules-install
When I give this command, I get the following error message:
The present kernel configuration has modules disabled. Type 'make
config' and enable module support. Then build a kernel with module
support enabled.
Needless to say, this seems to be a big order for someone just
getting started. When I typed 'make config' I was given so many
choices that I knew that I was in over my head. Anyone able to help
me get started?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: Enabling Module support in RedHat
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:04:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:37:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James) wrote:
>On my RedHat 2.2 system, I'm trying to install Video for Linux 2 so I
>can use my Winnov video and audio capture card. This requires me to
>configure Video for Linux 2 as a module, and to rebuild the kernel if
>necessary.
>Instructions ask me to give the following command:
>make module; make modules-install
>When I give this command, I get the following error message:
>The present kernel configuration has modules disabled. Type 'make
>config' and enable module support. Then build a kernel with module
>support enabled.
Try use make menuconfig. Is the same (in the end), but uses a
menu-driven way that is quite simple to follow. Basically you have
to tell the kernel to use "MODULES", then you can define WHAT you
want to be "modularized". You can build whataver you want as a
modules.
When you have defined your configuration (Drivers, FileSystem
support ect. etc.), you can use make dep and make zImage to create
a new kernel with the desired configuration. Then the make
modules and make modules_install to install the modules.
Read also the Kernel-HOWTO documentation in the /usr/src/linux
directory for other information.
Remember to install the new kernel after the recompile, leave the
old kernel intact and install the new one as a "new" kernel, this
is particularly usefull expecially if the new kernel does not work!
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebee Johnstone)
Subject: Re: Adding user from text file
Date: 15 Aug 2000 10:54:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In comp.os.linux.setup on Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:06:27 +0800
Opps! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, I am using RedHat 6.2 ,and I want to create 1000 user to my server.
>I already have a text file which look like below
>
>user1
>user2
>user3
>user4
>user5
>.
>.
>.
>.
>
>What I want is creat user account for each user listed in the file with
>the passwd same as the user name,also ,I want the dir public_html
>created and chmod to 711 and all of them will belong to a user group
>call staff.Can any one tell me how to do it?Should I need a script or
>some utilities to complete the task? IF yes...plz help me to write the
>script...thx alot..!!! ^_^
quick and dirty as follows:
as root, create the staff group using the groupadd command. use
man groupadd
to see how.
#!/bin/sh
# put the list in a variable. If it complains there are two many
#split the file into two and run this script on both
LIST=`cat my_text_file`
for USER in $LIST
do
useradd -g staff -p $USER $USER
mkdir /home/$USER/public_html
chown $USER.staff /home/$USER/public_html
chmod 711 /home/$USER/public_html
done
--
SAGE-AU: The System Administrator's Guild. www.sage-au.org.au
To advance the profession of System Administration by raising
awareness of the need for System Administrators, and educating
System Administrators in technical as well as professional issues.
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 07:51:50 -0400
From: Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Telnet/FTP Problem as root
Colin Watson wrote:
>
> Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Trying to telnet/ftp to/from 2 different versions of
> >Linux: 5.2 and 6.0.
>
> Not to be too picky, but this does get on the nerves of those of us who
> don't use Red Hat. Those are versions of Red Hat; Linux (the kernel) is
> only up to test releases of version 2.4.
Excuse my mental default to RH. I thought of this after I posted.
Just like when people say windows they mentally default to MS
as opposed to X or Mac.
>
> >I can telnet and ftp as something other then root but why not root.
> >What does it take to allow telnet and ftp as root ?
>
> /etc/securetty and somewhere in your FTP configuration respectively. By
> default it is disabled, deliberately so. FTPing as root is a stunningly
> bad idea; don't do it. telnet as root is only slightly safer.
>
> I recommend you install an ssh client and server on each box instead;
> then you can use ssh instead of telnet and scp instead of ftp. (The ssh
> server is rather better debugged than a lot of FTP servers, too.)
I will look for those. Thanks.
>
> --
> Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> "Lisp programs also have the advantage that very few programmers know
> Lisp, so your employer will have to keep you on staff to maintain it."
> - Joel Ray Holveck in Vigor, http://www.red-bean.com/~joelh/vigor/
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From: Colinet Remy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Enabling Module support in RedHat
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:09:44 +0200
James a �crit :
> On my RedHat 2.2 system, I'm trying to install Video for Linux 2 so I
> can use my Winnov video and audio capture card. This requires me to
> configure Video for Linux 2 as a module, and to rebuild the kernel if
> necessary.
> Instructions ask me to give the following command:
> make module; make modules-install
> When I give this command, I get the following error message:
> The present kernel configuration has modules disabled. Type 'make
> config' and enable module support. Then build a kernel with module
> support enabled.
> Needless to say, this seems to be a big order for someone just
> getting started. When I typed 'make config' I was given so many
> choices that I knew that I was in over my head. Anyone able to help
> me get started?
Hello,
If you need to configure your pseudo device card as a module, you have
to enable module support which
means that the static part of the kernel has to be able to load the
modules which are dynamic parts of the kernel.
To enable the loadable module, do the following :
cd /usr/src/linux
make xconfig
Select "Loadable module support" and push the button for "Enable module
support".
Then , it should be ok ...
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From: Colinet Remy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 386 machine to be installed linux
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:13:02 +0200
linux a �crit :
> Thank all of you very much!
> According to your posts, it seems that Slackware is preferred Linux distribution in
>most
> of people's eyes. Then I 'd like to ask a question, if we consider an average
>machine as a
> workstationa of Linux at present, which Linux Distribution is the better?
>
> 1. Slackware
> 2. Redhat
> 3. Suse
> 4. others.
>
> I know this is a newbie's question. If you don't mind, please drop me a line. Thanks
>in
> advance!
Redhat is the most often used distribution and it seems to be the easiest one to use
also.
See http://www.redhat.com for
articles about the Redhat distribution.
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