Linux-Setup Digest #403, Volume #19 Tue, 15 Aug 00 04:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: Before I install XFree 4.01..... (moonie;))
Re: Coppermine SLOW PERFORMANCE... (moonie;))
Telnet/FTP Problem as root (Jon)
Re: Making Linux to recognize more than 64MB of RAM (moonie;))
Re: Help with BIOS Problem ("M P Brennan")
Gnome lock-up (Donald K Knepshield)
Re: Cannot mount CD-ROM drive ("Andrew Kenna")
can't set PATH ("Sam")
Re: Freshly installed FTP service only supports anonymous users ("Jon Davis")
Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD (blowfish)
newbie: trouble installing redhat 6.2 (MunkE)
Re: Cant FDISK (Colin Watson)
Re: e2fsck shows errors but hdb works OK (Colin Watson)
Re: Telnet/FTP Problem as root (Colin Watson)
Re: Partition Size Advice (John Beardmore)
Re: Partition Size Advice (John Beardmore)
Re: star office 5.2 on red hat 6.2??? (John Beardmore)
Re: Partition Size Advice (John Beardmore)
Re: can't set PATH (Colin Watson)
Re: Telnet/FTP Problem as root ("Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Before I install XFree 4.01.....
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:21:51 -0400
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Michael Prowell wrote:
>Are there any issues I should know about first?
>
>I am running Slackware 7.1
>Linux 2.2.16
>libc 6.1
>KDE 1.1.2
>XFree86 3.3.6
>
>NVidia TNT video card
>
>Does the Xinstall.sh script cause any problems?
>
>I would like to try out the NVidia GL Drivers but don't want to mess up
>a
>system that has taken a bit of effort to get running properly.
>
>Thanks.
This is how I did it:
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/distros/mandrake/mdk_nvidia.html
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Stripped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Coppermine SLOW PERFORMANCE...
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:24:12 -0400
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, John Mazza wrote:
>You might want to check the BIOS settings for CAS latency to make sure that
>you are not experiencing excessive wait states on memory access.
>
><Alvaro Palma Aste [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8ma86c$dl3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> En comp.os.linux.hardware EKK escribio:
>>
>> Do you have the FPU activated in Kernel?
>> Are you using PC100? Is your Pentium running with FSB at 100Mhz? in
>> this case, probably you have a Pentium at only 490 Mhz (if your
>> Pentium is B (or E, I never can remember what is for Coopermine and
>> what for 133Mhz), the FSB MUST BE 133MHZ!!!
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Regards from Chile
>>
>> >OK,
>>
>> >I HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT DIDN'T GET AS MUCH RESPONSE
>> >AS I THOUGH I WOULD.
>>
>> >HAS ANYONE EXPERIENCED BELOW-EXPECTATIONS PERFORMANCE FROM
>> >COPPERMINE PENTIUM III CHIPS?
>>
>> >MY NEW PIII850, PIII650 PERFORM ONLY MARGINALLY BETTER THAN
>> >MY OLD PII450.
>>
>> >CACHE!!!!
>>
>> >IS THIS OR IS THIS NOT AN ISSUE?
>>
>> >SUPPOSEDLY THE NEW 256KB ON-DIE CACHE IS MORE EFFICIENT, BUT
>> >PERHAPS ONLY FOR MUNDANE WINDOWS TASKS. IF I AM RUNNING A
>> >MEMORY-INTENSIVE LARGE PROBLEM THAT IS MOSTLY FLOATING POINT
>> >OPERATIONS, AM I BETTER OFF WITH THE LARGER CACHE.
>> >IT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE WITH OTHER PROCESSORS, LIKE MIPS OR
>> >ALPHA. FOR EXAMPLE THE ALPHA 667MHZ (DP264) HAS A FAT 4MB
>> >CACHE AND IT IS TWICE AS FAST AS A PIII500(512KB CACHE).
>> >ALSO, THE MIPS PROCESSORS FREQUENCY IS BELOW PENTIUM FREQ.
>> >BUT THE LARGER CACHE USUALLY SEEMS TO MAKE UP IN OVERALL
>> >SPEED.
>>
>> >NOW. I KNOW THE ALPHA IS THE FASTEST OUT THERE AND I AM
>> >VERY HAPPY WITH IT, BUT I THOUGHT THAT A PIII850 WOULD AT
>> >LEAST BE 1.5 TIMES FASTER THAN A PII450.
>>
>> >WHAT IS GOING ON?????
>>
>> >SHOULD I JUST RETURN THESE NEW PROCESSORS AND HUNT FOR AN
>> >EXTINCT PIII600MHZ WITH THE OLD-STYLE 512KB CACHE????????
>>
>>
>> >PERPLEXED,
>>
>> >AG
>> >--
>>
>>
>> >P.S.: PLEASE ALSO REFER TO MESSAGE WITH HEADER:
>> >"slow PIII850MHz performance..."
>>
>> >THANK YOU MUCH.
Also have you checked the transfer rates of you HD? This can make a big
difference in how fast Linux "feels". man hdparm
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Stripped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:23:44 -0400
From: Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Telnet/FTP Problem as root
Trying to telnet/ftp to/from 2 different versions of
Linux: 5.2 and 6.0. I can telnet and ftp as something other then
root but why not root. What does it take to allow telnet and ftp
as root ?
Jon
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making Linux to recognize more than 64MB of RAM
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:30:29 -0400
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Tan Kian Chye wrote:
>Hi ,
>
>I have this problem of making the OS to recognize more than 64MB of RAM
>in the system. I have some research from the WWW and some say that I
>should append "mem=128MB" into /etc/lilo.conf
>
>I tried that and yet the system still only read 64MB of RAM (By looking
>at the startup procedures). Can any one please let me know how to do it.
>I'm using Mandrake Linux 7.0 on a machine running a AMD processor.
>
>
>Many thanks in advance...
If you have allready added "mem=128M" in your lilo.conf file, you then need to
run lilo (type "lilo" at an e-term) to install the changes into the MBR.
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Stripped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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From: "M P Brennan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.firewalls,alt.computer.security
Subject: Re: Help with BIOS Problem
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:39:10 -0400
What boyscout says is true (about removing the battery). Some motherboards
have enough capacitance, though, that you might need to leave the battery
out for several days.
FYI.
-Mike
"boyscout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:
: Mark Dettori says...
:
: ->I know this is not exactly the correct news groups to ask this question
: ->but I am desperate and hope someone can help. If you can provide the
: ->name of a better group, that would be great too.
: ->
: ->I have AMI BIOS 1.00.04.CS1T. I set up the user password under the BIOS
: ->setup (F1 at boot). The password was 4275ed. I used the number pad to
: ->enter this with num lock on. When I enter the password at boot, the 4
: ->does not show up, ie a password masking * does not show up when I hit
: ->the 4 on the num pad. It appears to be acting as a backspace. My
: ->password is not accepted. I tried using the 4 on the horizontal numbers
: ->on the keyboard and though it takes the character, the password does not
: ->work. I tried using num lock on and off. My computer will no longer
: ->boot.
: ->
: ->I have another computer similar, and I found that if I go into the BIOS
: ->password setup, using the 4 on the num pad works and an * is displayed.
: ->It seems that the BIOS on the initial password setup took the 4 from the
: ->num pad but does not take the 4 on the boot password prompt. I hope
: ->there is something I can do to solve this problem. I don't know if my
: ->computer is now trashed or if I can somehow clear the password or figure
: ->out how to get the 4 on the num pad to work.
: ->
: ->Any help is greatly appreciated.
: ->
: ->Thanks,
: ->
: Unplug your computer, press the start button to let out any residual
: electricity, take off the cover, and remove the backup battery. This will
: completely reset your CMOS to its default settings, removing the password
: as well. Put it all back together.
: You will then be able to reset your CMOS to your specifications. You did
: of course write down all the specs?
: Why would you need to set a password on your CMOS anyway since it is so
: easy to bypass it in the way I have described above?
: --
: Boyscout
:
:
:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donald K Knepshield)
Subject: Gnome lock-up
Date: 15 Aug 2000 05:23:40 GMT
I was recently trying to install RedHat 6.2 on a dual P-120 with 64meg
of ram. I first tried a default install and then a Gnome-Workstation
install and ran into the same problem on both: I would startx and Gnome
and I would get a message about the "SaveYourself" process took too long
to respond and I would close the dialog. I would then try to configure
(change to sawmill or run the gnome control panel) and the system would
"lock". I might get another "SaveYourself" process message once or twice
before this, but the result was the same. I could use Control-Backspace to
kill the X-session, but this happened everytime. I thought I might have had
a hardware problem, but I installed KDE as a stretch and it works fine. I
was wondering if anyone had any similar experiences or advice on how to fix
it. KDE works fine, but I am a little partial to Gnome. Thanks in advance.
--
Kevin Knepshield
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Andrew Kenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot mount CD-ROM drive
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:08:27 +1000
Make sure you have compiled cd-rom support into your kernel and also make
sure you have enabled iso9660 and ext2 support so you can mount your cd-rom
Regards
Andrew
Karsten Linzmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Linux-Cracks,
>
> I have installed RedHat-Linux 6.0 on my Pentium II machine and now
> nearly everything runs fine, except my CD -ROM drive.
>
> /etc/fstab contains the following line:
> /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,exec,dev,suid,ro,uid=0,gid=0 0 0
>
> (/dev/cdrom refers to /dev/hdc)
>
> When I try to mount the drive with "mount /dev/cdrom" I receive the
> error message
> "mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/cdrom as a block device
> (maybe `insmo driver'?)"
>
> How can I fix this problem? Does the kernel need additional parameters
> when it is started?
> I have already tried using "kernelcfg", but I don't know what kind of
> module and which arguments
> I must apply. Where can I find the information I need?
>
> Thanks a lot for every hint!
>
>
>
>
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From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't set PATH
Date: 15 Aug 2000 01:15:02 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I installed Mandrake-Linux 7.1, and I installed the Java SDK. Now I need to
add the path for the jdk1.3/bin directory to the PATH. I looked at a few
sources, and they say that to append info to the PATH, you simply tack it on
in the /etc/profile file. I add PATH=$PATH:/etc/jdk1.3/bin and EXPORT PATH
to the end. WELL - the path doesn't "take". I even do a echo $PATH at the
end of /etc/profile and it prints out the new PATH with what I appended, yet
after my system boots up, an echo $PATH shows that the path has reverted to
what it was before. It's like it either ignores the PATH change in
/etc/profile, or something else is getting processed after the /etc/profile
is processed.
What is going on?
Thanks
Sam
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Jon Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Freshly installed FTP service only supports anonymous users
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 06:21:20 GMT
Aha, a friend of mine told me /etc/ftpaccess is to determine who to LOCK
OUT, not to allow in, and I remember I had explicity added myself to the
list. Duh. :)
Jon
"george" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3CRl5.79091$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Look at /etc/ftpaccess and make sure in the class lines local or remore
> (whichever is of concern to you) has an entry of "real"
>
> -gc
> Jon Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:EcRl5.103930$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I'm not very experienced with Linux, and I recently installed Linux 6.2
> from
> > freesoftware.com on an old 300MHz computer. My problem is I can't get
> > wu_ftp to authenticate me. If I log in anonymously I can get in fine
but
> if
> > I use my account or even root, it fails authentication. I tried
following
> > the steps at:
> >
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/tips/FTP-Setup-Tips/FTP-Setup-Tips.html
> > ... but the problem remains.
> >
> > Any ideas? Anything else I need to mention?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jon
> >
> >
>
>
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc
Subject: Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:23:20 -0700
Bill Vermillion wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >However, I think the purchase could mean very good things
> >for Caldera- they pick up a lot of engineering talent, and
> >of course source code for things Linux currently doesn't
> >have -
>
> Well part of this is exactly why Love left Novell and founded
> Caldera. He believed in Unixware, and He couldn't get those who were
> so enamored of the Novell way to use the Unixware material they acquired
> from USL to even look at it, so he started Caldera. That makes Calerda
> one of the early players in the Linux world - and the plus is that
> it was founded by those who believed in Unixware
>
> Love left in 1994. It was a year later, 1995, when Novell sold the
> USL to SCO. More than a few left Novell when the Netware side came
> on so strong against Unixare.
>
> This is just my opinion/speculation, but given Love's past like of
> Unixware and the fight's he fought for it at Novell, I suspect he's
> had his eye on CSO for a while. I don't know if he was part of the
> group that casued Novell acquire USL in the first place, but I
> wouldn't be surprised. THere's more to Caldera than 'just another
> Linux company'.
>
> I just went to check something and see the SCO Web site has
> reverted to what it was last week instead of the SCO/Caldera
> web page that came up eariler today. This has to be confusing for
> all concerned.
>
Some more confusion to ponder here: IBM is rumoured to buy Novell!
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000814/tc/novell_dc_1.html
> >As to being broken, I have had contrary ...
>
> I had the impression from the other poster that he meant 'broke' in
> terms of no money. Ah - such is this language we call English.
>
> --
> Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
--
- Alex / blowfish.-
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From: MunkE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie: trouble installing redhat 6.2
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:58:52 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a spare hard drive I'm installing linux on. it has a fat32 File
system. For some reason whenver I try to install it to said hard drive,
it refuses to believe there's any place to install it to. is there a way
to work around this? Should I format the the hard drive to a FAT16? if
so, where would I find the neccassary utilities?
Mu nkE
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Cant FDISK
Date: 15 Aug 2000 06:33:50 GMT
Fastpoint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have RH6.2 installed on my intel box. I'm trying to convert to NT on
>this disk. I boot from DOS floppy, and then try and run DOS fdisk but it
>just won't work.
Try using Linux fdisk instead. As far as I know, DOS fdisk gets rather
confused by Linux partitions. Note that you can change the partition
type of a Linux partition without particularly bothering Linux, so you
might consider changing it to FAT and then deleting it using DOS fdisk,
or something like that.
README.fdisk, in the util-linux package [1], provides a fairly
comprehensive overview of the issues.
[1] At least there's such a document in the Debian package. I assume the
Red Hat people put it in as well.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"On Usenet, pedantry is not in the service of beauty. It's not even
in the service of truth. It's in the service of EVEN MORE PEDANTRY."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: e2fsck shows errors but hdb works OK
Date: 15 Aug 2000 06:46:04 GMT
Jim Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a second IDE hard drive in my Linux RedHat 6.0 box ( hdb ). When
>I run e2fsck, I get the following:
>
>---
>e2fsck 1.14, 9-Jan-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
>e2fsck: Is a directory while trying to open /mnt/hdb
That looks rather like you've put /mnt/hdb in the first column of a line
in /etc/fstab instead of the second, or else that you're trying to call
e2fsck on the mount point instead of the device. You should invoke
e2fsck as 'e2fsck /dev/hdb' instead of 'e2fsck /mnt/hdb'.
(It's unusual that you haven't partitioned the drive first, but since it
evidently manages to create and mount the filesystem nevertheless ...
:))
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You can probably leave that sort of thing out on a Linux newsgroup.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"But in your dreams, whatever they be / Dream a little dream of me."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Telnet/FTP Problem as root
Date: 15 Aug 2000 06:51:05 GMT
Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Trying to telnet/ftp to/from 2 different versions of
>Linux: 5.2 and 6.0.
Not to be too picky, but this does get on the nerves of those of us who
don't use Red Hat. Those are versions of Red Hat; Linux (the kernel) is
only up to test releases of version 2.4.
>I can telnet and ftp as something other then root but why not root.
>What does it take to allow telnet and ftp as root ?
/etc/securetty and somewhere in your FTP configuration respectively. By
default it is disabled, deliberately so. FTPing as root is a stunningly
bad idea; don't do it. telnet as root is only slightly safer.
I recommend you install an ssh client and server on each box instead;
then you can use ssh instead of telnet and scp instead of ftp. (The ssh
server is rather better debugged than a lot of FTP servers, too.)
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Lisp programs also have the advantage that very few programmers know
Lisp, so your employer will have to keep you on staff to maintain it."
- Joel Ray Holveck in Vigor, http://www.red-bean.com/~joelh/vigor/
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Size Advice
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:27:30 +0100
In article <8n6111$40g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter T. Breuer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>In comp.os.linux.hardware John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>: writes
>
>:>> 6.4GB Hd...
>:>> /usr = 5GB
>:>> /root = 500MB
>:>> /home = 500MB
>:>> /swap = 127MB
>
>: Apart from weight of tradition, why do usr, root and home have to be
>: different partitions ?
>
>So that /usr can be read-only and /home can be read-write.
What's so great about /usr being ro ?
> (I assume he
>means / istead of /root).
I think so.
> So that everytime you mess up your home
>partition you don't also mess up your /.
But why should you mess up your home partition ? Indeed how can you ?
> And vice versa. So that you
>can comfortably clone your OS without also cloning your own files.
Can't this just be done by keeping user files under /usr and managing
files rather than partitions ?
> And
>vice versa. So you can upgrade or multi-install in functional units.
>Etc. Etc.
Hmmmm... OK.
>He forgot to list /var as a separate partition. That's quite important.
>I really hate runaway log files growing to swamp / or /home.
So it's just to limit the size of a file system ?
>If you really don't know this and you aren't just trolling, go check
>out the Partition-HOWTO.
No, not trolling, just curious.
I had thought of doing a custom instal but wondered if my ideas on
partitioning would be making myself a headache for later.
>There are some legitimate reasons for making a one partition system.
>They boil down to "the owner is an idiot and/or doesn't care about
>preserving and maintaining his system, so he might as well do the
>laziest thing available, as he'll throw it all away tomorrow anyhow".
I don't really see that.
I have one partition disks on other OSs and I've never found it a
problem.
I've also had one partition Unix systems without regret. I'm just
seeing if the dogma stems from sound reasoning or just a fear that the
sky will fall in if tradition is not followed.
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Size Advice
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:32:18 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dances With
Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Swapspace is (usually) kept on a partition instead of in the filesystem
>because doing so results in a performance increase. The swapper doesn't
>have to deal with the filesystem and can just write to the raw disk, you
>see... Since partitions must have a fixed size, that *can* mean that
>your swap space is fixed in size.
OK, neat !
>Naturally, it doesn't have to. You can do this to add 128M of swap to a
>system that needs it:
># dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M count=128
># sync && sync
># mkswap /swapfile && swapon /swapfile
>
>Remove it by doing
># swapoff /swapfile && rm /swapfile
And neater. And this coexists with any existing swap spare rather than
replacing it ?
And swap off will just shift stuff out of the deallocated swap file and
delete it ?
>You *can* have a Linux box without any swap space at all. It's a really
>bad idea on machines with < 128M,
I should be OK then.
> and it's not really a good idea even
>on machines with a lot of RAM. Basically, if there's swap space, things
>that don't get used will be shuffled off to the swap, leaving more room
>in RAM for heavily used things and/or disk caching.
OK. So rule of thumb for sizing a swap partition from RAM size ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: star office 5.2 on red hat 6.2???
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:37:45 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas Rasmussen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>>>>> "John" == John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> John> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cokey de Percin
> John> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
> >> I haven't seen the problem and I just installed SO 5.2 on RH 6.2
> >> with no problems. My system is strictly vanilla. I can't imagine
> >> what the problem is
>
> John> Does SO ship as part of the standard RH distribution ? If not,
> John> where do you get it ? Can it be downloaded or is it too big ?
>
>You can download it from http://www.sun.com/staroffice I believe it's
>about 100Megs (but can't remember)
Is that in source form ?
>Many distributions ship with staroffice when you buy it, but not the
>downloadable distributions.
Does it ship as part of RH 6.2 for Alpha boxed set ?
Cheers, J/.
--
John Beardmore
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From: John Beardmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Size Advice
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:36:08 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes
>John Beardmore wrote:
>>
>>
>> What's the rationale for sizing swap partitions ?
>>
>> In Win32, the rule of thumb seems to be to have an initial swap file
>> size that is say 1.5 time the size of physical ram, and perhaps to let
>> it grow bigger if needs be.
>>
>> How sensible would it be on say a 512 meg ram Linux box to have a mere
>> 64 or 128 meg swap partition ? Can a Linux box be configured without a
>> swap partition at all ? My gut feeling is that it would be a bit of a
>> waste of space ! By the time you needed it at all, you'd be more or
>> less totally out of space !
>>
>You can run with no swap. But there are two problems.
>
>If you run out of virtual memory, Linux will kill some process. If it
>is a critical process, like init, you are hosed.
OK.
> With no swap, your
>size of your virtual memory is the size of your physical memory.
>Ideally, you would have enough physical memory for all of the
>applications that you want to run. In practice, once in a while, some
>program will grab more memory than you expected. Better to have it
>page and slow down than just crash.
OK.
>In normal operation, you benefit from swap even when programs are not
>using much memory. Pages that are not being used can be paged out,
>freeing memory for use as cache. Every system has processes that only
>sit there waiting for something to happen. And even processes that
>are executing have chunks of code and data that aren't in current
>use. Without swap, they take up RAM. With swap, those pages move to
>swap, and more RAM is available to buffer disk access. Performance
>improves.
OK.
>How much is too much? Depends on your needs. Paging because memory
>is needed, as opposed to paging due to inactivity, will slow down your
>system. You may decide that slow enough is as good as crashed.
>That's the maximum amount of swap you want. You might also look at
>quotas. But there are people running applications with huge data sets
>that can use large amounts of swap without large amounts of paging -
>because of good locality of access.
OK.
>My desktop has a somewhat excessive 640MB of RAM, and 256MB of swap.
>If I actually use up the swap, something's gone wrong. But disk space
>is cheap, so there is little reason to make it smaller. It's the same
>swap as when I had 128MB of RAM.
OK.
>Note that there are some Unix systems where the size of the swap space
>sets the size of the virtual memory. In those cases, swap will be
>larger than RAM. That's not the case with Linux, so there's no direct
>connection between RAM size and swap size. Except that the answer to
>how much RAM and how much swap is the same: "Enough."
Thanks.
Cheers, J/.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: can't set PATH
Date: 15 Aug 2000 06:40:29 GMT
Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I installed Mandrake-Linux 7.1, and I installed the Java SDK. Now I
>need to add the path for the jdk1.3/bin directory to the PATH. I looked
>at a few sources, and they say that to append info to the PATH, you
>simply tack it on in the /etc/profile file. I add
>PATH=$PATH:/etc/jdk1.3/bin and EXPORT PATH to the end.
Is that 'EXPORT PATH' or 'export PATH'? The case matters, although from
the symptoms that's probably not the problem (unexported variables set
in /etc/profile should still show up with an echo in the shell, but not
be exported to subshells).
By the way, why on earth is the JDK installed in /etc? /usr/local (or
/opt, sometimes) would be more normal places.
>WELL - the path doesn't "take". I even do a echo $PATH at the end of
>/etc/profile and it prints out the new PATH with what I appended, yet
>after my system boots up, an echo $PATH shows that the path has
>reverted to what it was before. It's like it either ignores the PATH
>change in /etc/profile, or something else is getting processed after
>the /etc/profile is processed.
Different distributions set up bash differently. I'm not familiar with
Mandrake, but you might check /etc/bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, ~/.profile,
~/.bashrc, perhaps even /etc/environment, and anything with similar
names.
To avoid having to add new entries to everybody's $PATH all the time, I
generally just drop symbolic links into /usr/local/bin to the binaries
in a package. /usr/local/bin is normally on the default $PATH; if it
isn't, then I only have to add it once. There's much less administrative
hassle that way (apart from the rare occasions when you have name
conflicts).
--
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"It's the one who won't be taken who cannot seem to give,
And the soul afraid of dying that never learns to live."
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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet/FTP Problem as root
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 07:59:26 +0100
Jon wrote:
>
> Trying to telnet/ftp to/from 2 different versions of
> Linux: 5.2 and 6.0. I can telnet and ftp as something other then
> root but why not root. What does it take to allow telnet and ftp
> as root ?
>
Hi,
This question is often asked....root is not allowed remote access by
default for security reasons. For telnet access log in as another user
and 'su'.
However this being linux there is a way of getting round this if you can
live with the reduced security ;-)
In directory /etc/pam.d comment out lines in the files rlogin & login
which mention 'pam_securetty.so' (by preceding with a '#').
Remove the 'root' entry from file /etc/ftpusers - this is inverse logic,
users in this file are barred.
Thats it!
Regards
Phil Q
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