Linux-Setup Digest #421, Volume #19              Fri, 18 Aug 00 00:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: cant boot redhat 6.2 with loadlin (Ed Shafer)
  mail server...... ("Brian W. Pascal")
  Re: Are there any that will work with the Intel i810? (D G)
  Re: SetSerial to IRQ 11 - setup? ("Jack Kessler")
  Gnome screen bigger than my monitor ("Jack Kessler")
  Re: Gnome GUI and 6.1 ("Jack Kessler")
  Re: Booting from a different kernel image (jinp)
  How to add a Windowmanager to KDM?? ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
  Re: linux and netatalk sharing same shares (Rod Smith)
  Re: mail server...... (Rod Smith)
  Re: Booting from a different kernel image (Dances With Crows)
  can't reboot or halt! (Murray Eisenberg)
  Re: KPPP connecting, hosts not found ("Joel Schultz")
  Re: Misterious Hangs in my network (Bodo Eggert)
  Re: can't set PATH (Don Belmore)
  Re: Gnome screen bigger than my monitor (Craig Kelley)

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From: Ed Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cant boot redhat 6.2 with loadlin
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 19:19:10 -0500

He is already doing exactly what you are suggesting...and it doesn't
work. I am having the same problem. My previous installation of
Slackware Linux booted with loadlin, no problem. But new current
installation of Mandrake 7 (which is Red Hat basically) will not. A few
lines from the error message:

request_module [block-major-8]:Root fs not mounted
VFS:Cannot open root device 08:01
Kernel panic:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on 08:01

I am curious if anyone has Mandrake 7 and is using loadlin successfully?

Regards,
Ed

Gene Wiggins wrote:
> 
> If your root partition (the partition where the root of the file
> system directory tree is located) is the second partition, this
> should work:
> 
> loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2
> 
> Any other parameters you need to pass can also be passed on this
> line.
> 
> Carl Montgomery wrote:
> >
> > I cant get linux to boot any way I try. I installed red hat from cd onto
> > the second partition on my one HD just after the windoze partition
> > (fat16). Although I setup lilo during the install (5 times) it just
> > doesn't work. I never get the lilo: prompt.
> > Failing this I used loadlin to avoid the problem. However, the boot gets
> > to "kernel panic :vfd unable to mount....". I'm certain that I have
> > loadin pointing to the right partition (hda2) since I took notice of
> > this during the last 3 time I installed. I'm using the vmlinuz kernel
> > image off the cd since I have no other.
> >
> > Please someone help a linux newbie with this problem, I't REALLY driving
> > me to distraction. I'm new to this so please use small words :)
> >
> > Carl
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
> 
> -- Gene Wiggins
> -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -- Public Encryption Key http://www.crosswinds.net/~gwiggins



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From: "Brian W. Pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mail server......
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:30:05 GMT

Trying to grasp a few things. I transferred my ISP's mail accounts to my own
Linux box at the office and set up mail accounts successfully. But what
about smtp? People who have accounts on my Linux box are still using their
own ISP's smtp to send mail to us. Don't I need smtp on my own box for their
outgoing mail? Or is it that it's normal for their own ISP to do this.

Running Red Hat 6.1 and Apache

Confused
Brian



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From: D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Are there any that will work with the Intel i810?
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:31:42 -0700

Hammer wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just got back from the LinuxWorldExpo.  I was surprised to see that
> > Intel had a booth there specifically for linux on the i810
> > motherboards.  The guy there recommended XFree86 4.0.1 and the 2.4.0
> or
> > 2.3.99whatever_the_latest kernel.  Otherwise, the 2.2.16 kernel should
> > be OK, although he recommended using the XFCom server from
> > support.intel.com with that kernel.
> >
> > There were two modules that the i810 relies on, one is the agpgart,
> and
> > I can't remember the other.  But the other module will be in the 2.4
> > kernel and only partially exists in the 2.2.16 kernel.  (I'm just
> > paraphrasing what I remember.)
> >
> 
> Interesting, thanks.
> 
> I have been told (not yet tried it) that you can disable the onboard
> sound in the bios, then put in your own PCI sound card and skip AC'97
> completely.  Been meaning to try it.  I might go the ALSA route too, but
> I'm not relishing the 4-6 hours I suspect it will take, after watch the
> [alsa-users] mailing list for a couple weeks :(  Or, maybe I'm just a
> wimp :)

It took me about a half-hour to download, compile, and setup.  Very
easy.  The hardest part was automating it in /etc/conf.modules.  I
didn't have any problems with the driver itself.

-- 
DG
e-mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(remove the Z's--they're what I do when I read SPAM!)

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From: "Jack Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SetSerial to IRQ 11 - setup?
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:37:05 -0700

I have gotten as far as getting the modem to dial and run a login script.
But it never works and I never connect to my ISP.  I don't get any error
message.  Ideas?

Please respond both to the newsgroup and to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks.


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8ngl9b$jab$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I see to have a very similar situation and I have the setserial
> command for /dev/ttyS2 IRQ 11 in rc.serial.  However, upon reboot,
> amongst all the other boot messages, I see a reference to "Wild
> Interrupts!" after the rc.serial file gets invoked.  I do not seem to be
> having any problem w/ the modem but the one thing that concerns me is
> the fact that I do not see an entry in /proc/interrupts for IRQ 11 even
> after I have successfully used the modem.  Is this cause for concern?  I
> certainly do not like the "Wild Interrupts" message.  Any insight would
> be most appreciated.
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > In Redhat, /etc/rc.d/rc.local  is a good spot.
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 11:58:22 +0100, Dogbert Dilbert
> >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Dear All,
> > >
> > >I always have to change setserial to IRQ11 to get my modem working
> > >(/dev/ttyS2 seems to be permanently set to IRQ 4); where should I go
> > >to change this setting so that I don't need to type in "setserial
> > >/dev/ttyS2 IRQ 11" every time I log in?
> > >
> > >Many Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > _____________________
> > The lap of Linuxury
> > |<de in RH6
> >
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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From: "Jack Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gnome screen bigger than my monitor
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:41:00 -0700

How can I reduce the Gnome screen so that I can see all of it on my monitor
at once?  (I have an ancient Sony 13" Trinitron which continues to work so I
continue not to replace it.)

Please reply both to the newsgroup and to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks.



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From: "Jack Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome GUI and 6.1
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:45:34 -0700

By default, Red Hat Linux starts at the prompt.  The command to start the
GUI is 'startx' -without the quotes of course.


"John Hellyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi
> I have many years experience in Windows and Novell installation and
> configuring and now find it very strange to be a "newbie" again (but also
> very exciting).
>  So here is my first question.
> I have installed Red Hat 6.1 on a dual boot system (lilo) successfully,
> however, I choose on the installation to use Gnome as my GUI.
> But when start  6.1 and I login, the GUI does not fire up. What am I doing
> wrong?
> Thanks John
>
>



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From: jinp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Booting from a different kernel image
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:58:56 -0400

I have a question on this one, I built a new kernel(on RedHat 6.0) and
did all the lilo and link the System.map to the new file, and new kernel
booted ok, but the old one found a wrong System.map file.  What should
I do?


Thanks
James


Akira Yamanita wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >    Can we specify which boot image to be used at LILO Prompt?
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Sandy
>
> Sure. This is my /etc/lilo.conf file. Edit as necessary but you
> should get the general idea. Basically you compile the new kernel,
> move it to your boot (or root) partition, then add an entry for
> the new kernel.
>
> boot=/dev/hda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout=50
> default=linux
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20
>         label=old_kernel
>         initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20.img
>         read-only
>         root=/dev/hda8
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16
>         label=linux
>         initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.16.img
>         read-only
>         root=/dev/hda8


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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to add a Windowmanager to KDM??
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:53:33 -0500

Hi,

Can someone give me a pointer on how to add the blackbox window manager
to my drop-down selection in kdm?  Blackbox is installed, and works fine
when booting from a command prompt.  I added it to
/usr/share/config/kdmrc, and it shows up in the drop-down menu in kdm
until I completely reboot the system, then it won't show up anymore, and
it is automagically erased from/usr/share/config/kdmrc!  I'm running
Mandrake6.0, and kdm works fine for the default window managers listed
in the drop-down.  

Here's the short excerpt from /usr/share/config/kdmrc, and below that is
the excerpt from the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession addition I made.

#/usr/share/config/kdmrc
SessionTypes=kde;gnome;blackbox;WindowMaker;AfterStep;Icewm;default;failsafe;


#/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession
;;      
AfterStep)
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/afterstep
;;
Blackbox)
exec /usr/local/bin/blackbox
;;




Thanks for any help!
Chip Rose.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: linux and netatalk sharing same shares
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 02:05:01 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <0sZm5.8220$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "William Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I set this up and noticed that when I place a pc file in the mac shared
> volume, it shows up on the mac, I but cannot be moved or copied from a
> mac...
> 
> Same goes with a pc pulling a mac file from a mac volume...

This sounds like a permissions issue. In Linux, use the ls -l command to
check the permissions on the Mac and Windows-created files:

$ ls -l winfile macfile
-rw-r--r--   1 user1    users      131584 Jun 27 19:58 macfile
-rw-------   1 user2    users      158208 Jul 14 00:40 winfile

Check the permissions strings (the -rw-r--r-- or -rw------- parts) and
the owner (user1 and user2 in this example).

Netatalk sets ownership according to the username passed at logon time.
So does Samba, but this can be easily overridden in Samba via the force
user parameter. Permissions are set in Netatalk from the permissions on
the directory in which a file is created. In Samba, permissions are set
through an assortment of parameters, like create mask. You must figure
out how to set ownership and permissions such that the users of both
services can modify files created by the others. I can't be much more
specific without either devoting a lot of verbiage to it or knowing more
about your setup, such as whether you're using the same accounts for
both servers, what the permissions are, what your configurations are,
etc. I suggest you check the permissions and ownership options for these
packages (particularly for Samba, which is much more flexible in this
respect), and post again with more details if you can't figure it out.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: mail server......
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 02:18:51 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article <hs%m5.66503$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Brian W. Pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Trying to grasp a few things. I transferred my ISP's mail accounts to my own
> Linux box at the office and set up mail accounts successfully.

I can think of at least two ways in which this statement can be
interpreted:

1) You've been using an ISP to host a domain (call it example.com), and
   your ISP had been hosting several e-mail accounts ([EMAIL PROTECTED],
   [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.). You've now changed the MX record in
   example.com's DNS servers to point to an in-house system on which you
   have equivalent accounts (bob, carol, etc.). This works.
2) You're using the fetchmail program (or something similar) to transfer
   e-mail from one or more e-mail accounts at an ISP to a Linux system's
   local mail queue. (This isn't really "transferring mail ACCOUNTS" [my
   emphasis]; it's "transferring mail.")

> But what
> about smtp? People who have accounts on my Linux box are still using their
> own ISP's smtp to send mail to us.

Interpreted literally, this means that [EMAIL PROTECTED], with his account
on your Linux server, has configured his e-mail client software (pine,
XCmail, whatever) to send mail via some off-site ISP (let's call it
bigisp.net). Thus, when [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mails [EMAIL PROTECTED], the
mail passes through the mail server for bigisp.net. Given either
interpretation of your first sentence, this should work, but it is
inefficient. A better way is to simply configure the local mail client
to send using the local mail server. This should work, too, but it's
conceivable that your local mail server is misconfigured so that it
doesn't work.

Somehow, though, I suspect this isn't what you meant. If so, please
clarify.

> Don't I need smtp on my own box for their
> outgoing mail? Or is it that it's normal for their own ISP to do this.

Outgoing mail doesn't need a local SMTP mail server. After all, Windows
boxes send mail via ISPs' mail servers all the time, without local SMTP
mail servers. If you're running a Linux box that supports its own set of
accounts and local mail delivery, though, it's possible to use your own
local SMTP server (usually Sendmail, but sometimes Postfix, Exim, Qmail,
or something else). Whether you SHOULD do this depends on your exact
circumstances. Given the nature of your questions, I suspect that if
what you're doing now works, you shouldn't mess with it. Running a mail
server requires a certain amount of expertise. You don't need to be a
guru to do it, but it's easy to misconfigure a mail server so that it's
an open relay for spam or causes other problems.

You might do well to post with some additional information, such as:

1) What sort of Internet connection do you have -- dialup, broadband,
   fixed IP address or static IP address, etc.?
2) How many local accounts do you have on your Linux box?
3) Are you using an external ISP to host your e-mail accounts? If so,
   how are you currently retrieving that mail? (Are you using Fetchmail,
   individual users' mail programs, etc?)
4) What distribution and mail server are you using?
5) Do you own your own domain name?

The answers to these questions will at least serve as a starting point
for better specific advice.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Booting from a different kernel image
Date: 18 Aug 2000 02:27:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:58:56 -0400, jinp wrote:
>I have a question on this one, I built a new kernel(on RedHat 6.0) and
>did all the lilo and link the System.map to the new file, and new kernel
>booted ok, but the old one found a wrong System.map file.  What should
>I do?

"Don't worry about it" is my advice.  System.map is used mainly to aid
in debugging kernel problems.  There's one user-space program that I
know of (lsof) that uses System.map to do its thing, but in the main,
System.map isn't used.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com     /   condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/           ==Henry Spencer

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Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:04:24 -0400
From: Murray Eisenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't reboot or halt!

After upgrading some packages -- including pam -- to a Red Hat 6.2 Gnome
workstation installation, as an ordinary user I cannot execute "shutdown
-r" or "shutdown -h" from a console command line.  And if I select "Log
out" from the Gnome taskbar, the log out dialog no longer presents the
choices of rebooting or shutting down.

Suggestions?

-- 
Murray Eisenberg                    e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mathematics & Statistics            phone:  413/545-2859 (W)
University of Massachusetts                 413/549-1020 (H)
Amherst, MA 01003-4515

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From: "Joel Schultz" <jjsst46@*cantspamme*pop.pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: KPPP connecting, hosts not found
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:47:32 -0400

Did you set up your Domain Name Servers IP address(es) in kppp?

"Gareth Cranny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:nkAm5.3432$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have the same problem, if I found out I'll let you know!
>
> Gareth.
>
> Karen Heiby wrote in message <8ndktq$4sm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Hello, this is probably a common problem.  I recently moved to Germany
> >where I have to use a dial-up connection.  I used to have Roadrunner
> >cable in the  U.S.  Anyway I disabled my ethernet card (eth0) from
> >initializing at startup anymore.  Sorry, I forget the exact name of the
> >tool that I used; "nettool" or something like that.  Anyway, I set KPPP
> >to do its thing.  It dials, connects, and looks good, but doesn't seem
> >to be sending/receiving any more bytes after the connection is made.
> >Netscape, GAIM, etc. cannot locate host servers.
> >
> >I read the Modem How-To and don't see anything.  I did do "modemtool"
> >and set the correct COM port (COM1).
> >
> >I have an external Elsa Microlink 56K (German specifications) modem.
> >The manufacturer assures me that it works with Linux, although they do
> >not technically support Linux.
> >
> >I use Sonnet.de for my ISP here in Germany.  I also try Compuserve now
> >and then (here in Germany Compuserve works more like a standard ISP;
> >they don't have that cheeseball software interface and you can just
> >dial it straight with KPPP or in Windows, Dial-Up Networking).
> >
> >If someone can point me in the right direction for what else I need to
> >read, I'd appreciate it.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Karen
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Before you buy.
>
>



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From: Bodo Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Misterious Hangs in my network
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 05:36:27 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Andres Tarallo wrote:
> 
> I have made the following installation for a high school were i work for and
> i play the role of a System Administrator.
> 
> I have a Pentium MMX @ 166 Mhz with 64 MB RAM acting as NIS Server and NFS
> server. I'm exporting the users home directories to the Computer LAB; In the
> computer lab I have workstations ranging from K5 to Celeron @433 Mhz; with
> an average of 32 Mb of RAM at least (Many have 64 Mb of RAM).
> 
> During some clases we had a misterious hang that all the network frezeed, we
> rebooted and then we continued working without problem. WE don't have
> harware problem; we even changed a disk that seems to be faulty; but the
> problem persists.
> 
> We're currently working with SuSE 6.4 both in server and workstations; the
> server si running kernel NFS; I'm aware of that this is still under
> development but I hva e to run on the workstations StarOffice and this was
> the only solution I've found
> 
> Thanks for any advice
>                             Andres Tarallo
>                             [EMAIL PROTECTED]


the kernel nfs does not have locking, but it supports locking.
this will break staroffice.

you can either use userspace-nfs or upgrade your kernel and hope
it is fixed by now.
-- 
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|*-=>www.7eggert.de<=-*-=>[EMAIL PROTECTED]<=-*|
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Belmore)
Subject: Re: can't set PATH
Date: 18 Aug 2000 03:32:01 GMT

Sam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: in the /etc/profile file. I add PATH=$PATH:/etc/jdk1.3/bin and EXPORT PATH

        Greetings all!

        I have somewhat a similar problem.  I was going through xf86config
and it says to make sure /usr/X11R6 is _before_ /usr/X386/bin.  My problem
I seem to be having is that when I type 'printenv' it lists PATH as :

PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/root/bin:/etc/XR11

        yet in my .bash_profile is says:

PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin

        As you can see I tried to add the '/etc/XR11' to my PATH (a la
export command) and it simply appended it to the end.  My question is how
do I put '/etc/XR11' _before_ '/usr/X11R6/bin' when I can't even find out
how my system gets all those other directories in the PATH?  I have been
hunting all over my system to find out where it defines '/sbin:/bin:...'

        A bit of background on my system:  RedHat 5.2 (hey, it's the only
version that I have that I installed and works decently enough for me to
understand not to mention another problem with downloads...sigh), AMD
5x86-133, 16 Megs RAM, Quantum Fireball 1.2Gig HD(strictly Linux
partitioned).

        TIA!

        Don

The Dragon's Claw - http://www.hwcn.org/~ad095/Claw.html

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Subject: Re: Gnome screen bigger than my monitor
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 17 Aug 2000 22:00:52 -0600

"Jack Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How can I reduce the Gnome screen so that I can see all of it on my monitor
> at once?  (I have an ancient Sony 13" Trinitron which continues to work so I
> continue not to replace it.)
> 
> Please reply both to the newsgroup and to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thanks.

Control-Alt-NumPad +/- will change resolutions.  You can setup the
default in /etc/XF86Config by placing the desired resolution first in
the Modes line for your Screen section.

-- 
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley  -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block

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