Linux-Setup Digest #421, Volume #21 Tue, 12 Jun 01 00:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Sound Module Problems (Rand Simberg)
Re: @Home setup SO SLOW ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RH 7.1 and system bios (Steve Martin)
2 newbie questions (Hebbiemijweer)
Re: Hard Drive Re-partitioning (Steve Martin)
RedHat7.1 boot problem:Block move error, 0xAE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: rh7.0 keyboard misconfiguration. (bullwinkle)
Re: RedHat7.1 boot problem:Block move error, 0xAE ("Nils")
How come reboot also works from a non-su account? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 2 newbie questions ("Nils")
Re: How come reboot also works from a non-su account? ("Nils")
Re: Lost libc.so.6 (Dave Uhring)
Re: Thanks Rob Davies for the hdparm info (Dave Uhring)
Re: Mouse problem SuSe 7.1 (Dave Uhring)
Re: HELP: Boot failure after IDE drive reconfiguration (Scott Drumm)
Re: How come reboot also works from a non-su account? (D. Birchall)
xfree 4.1 (Riyaz Mansoor)
Xwindows 4.1 on an IBM 350-P100 (Frank McCormick)
Re: RedHat7.1 boot problem:Block move error, 0xAE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How come reboot also works from a non-su account? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rand Simberg)
Subject: Re: Sound Module Problems
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:39:14 GMT
On 12 Jun 2001 01:22:44 GMT, in a place far, far away,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn) made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:
>Instructions like these refer to the "raw" kernel configuration file,
>which is what you create in a more userfriendly way with "make (menu)config".
That's what I figured, but I've never hacked it, nor did I know where
it lived. It's frustrating to a newbie that the instructions imply
that you can do this from make config, though...
>It is a hidden file in your linux source tree, most likely called
>/usr/src/linux/.config Ignore the warning on top and edit it by hand,
>often that will be the quickest way to get something done, but you have to
>consider all dependancies as well, fi a module to support a specific network
>card is useless without general networking support.
> # /usr/src/linux/.config
> # OPTION_1 is not set
> #
> # OPTION_2 is built-in in the kernel
> OPTION_2=y
> #
> # OPTION_3 is compiled as a seperate module, to be loaded on demand
> OPTION_3=m
>
>So in your case, search for those options and set them as asked (the
>sound settings are near the end of the file):
> #
> # Sound
> #
> CONFIG_SOUND=m
> CONFIG_SOUND_CMPCI=m
> # CONFIG_SOUND_CS4281 is not set
> # CONFIG_SOUND_FUSION is not set
> # CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1 is not set
> # ...
> # End of Sound config
OK, I'll do that.
>As menu options in make menuconfig you get something like:
>
> Linux Kernel v2.2.9 Configuration
> ---------------------- Sound ----------------------
>
> <M> Sound card support
> <M> C-Media PCI (CMI8338/8378)
Are you saying that I'll get this after I edit the raw file, or that I
should have this option now? Because I don't currently, at least not
with the CMI8338/8378 in parens.
I did select the C-Media PCI module, but when I did the make modules,
it didn't compile any sound modules.
> < > Crystal CS4281
> < > Crystal SoundFusion (CS4280/461x)
> < > Creative SBLive! (EMU10K1)
> ...
>
>Which in the end has the same result.
>> I don't see these items anywhere in the sound menu of menuconfig. I
>> can select sound cards support as a module, and in fact the current
>> kernel already supports that. But none of the driver modules listed
>> show anything about CMPCI. Also, there are certain things to
>> configure, and I don't see where I get the opportunity to do that.
I still don't have the answer to the above question. How/where do I
configure the specific card with the options for the driver?
>You don't need to recompile the complete kernel after selecting some
>new modules. Just run "make dep" which makes sure the dependancies are
>correct. Then "make modules" which should notice that all the previously
>selected modules are already compiled and up-to-date, and needn't be
>compiled again and will only compile the newly selected modules. The
>last step "make modules_install" will install all modules in the correct
>subdirectories of /lib/modules.
>Then run "depmod -a" to update dependancies, and you should now be able
>to, without rebooting, to load the module cmpci to support your
>soundcard. "modprobe cmpci" (IIRC it doesn't take any parameters for
>irq, dma or io) Because of the depmod it will also load the module
>soundcore, you don't need to load that one by hand.
>If the sound devices were created when you installed the system, you now
>have sound. "cat file.wav > /dev/dsp" to test.
>
>If /dev/dsp*, /dev/mixer*, /dev/audio* etc. don't exist, they can be
>created with the command "/sbin/MAKEDEV audio". They are essential for
>sound support, as they are the only way for the system to
>contact/control your soundcard once the module cmpci has been loaded.
Thanks, that was the kind of info I needed.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: @Home setup SO SLOW
Date: 12 Jun 2001 01:32:04 GMT
In comp.os.linux.setup LRW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd ask the @Home newsgroups, unfortunately you have to be connected to
> @Home to access their newsgroups, and the following problem is
> preventing me from doing so. =P
> I can get connected to the @Home service, and can even ping out and
> resolve addresses, etc, but my x-fer rate is no more than about 2kbps!
> And stalls out constantly.
> There's a GREAT reference page at
> http://members.home.net/randal.leavitt/CableModemConnectionNotes.html
> which I followed, but it doesn't help.
> No change in performance from when all I had was a host name a default
> gateway to when I put in all the rest of the info.
> Can anyone who has a good connection using cable modem give me some
> pointers?
> Like for Host, go ahead and use the full c123456-a.xxxx.mo.home.com or
> just use c123456-a, use DHCP or BOOTP, etc.
I put a line
DHCP_HOSTNAME="cl23456-a"
in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifconfig_eth0
and it worked.
I would not work without this line.
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RH 7.1 and system bios
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:44:57 -0400
"I.M.Sanders" wrote:
> >> I took an 8 gig hard drive, fdisk with winme startup disk,
> >> formatted each partition, then installed RH 7.1
> >I have to ask... why did you format the drive with the WinME
> >fdisk and then install Red Hat?
> Just using the program I was used to.
Well, if it worked for you, then fine. I'm a believer in "if
it works, don't fix it". However, you might run into trouble
down the road doing this... I've had experiences where for some
reason Windows' "fdisk" program and Linux's "fdisk" program
occasionally couldn't read partition tables made by the other.
You might one day partition a disk under one and not have the
other OS be able to read it. YMMV.
> >Strange. There should be nothing that Red Hat does, parition or
> >otherwise, that should interfere with the auto-detect.
> Another user pointed that out to me, and of course you're right . I
> was just very tired and not thinking straight at the time. I forgot
> that I had installed more ram. It's ovious now that I've had some
> rest that something is not making good contact on all pins.
Ah, that might explain many things. Yep, try reseating the RAM
carefully. Good luck!
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Subject: 2 newbie questions
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hebbiemijweer)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:16:27 GMT
I had a spare hard disc and thought I would use it to try out linux. So I
installed redhat 7.1 on it. I now have two questions:
1) At start up I get the message: "/contains filesystem with errors" And
sometihing with Illegal blocks and Inode, also I'm told to run fsck. Beyond
logging in as root I'm clueless as to how to proceed, where do I find some
comprehensive instructions on that.
2) I also have a FAT32 hard disc, how do I acces that one? I choose which
disc to boot in my bios, I do not use lilo for that since I have terrible
experiences running windows from dual boot.
Please help me out
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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Hard Drive Re-partitioning
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:59:25 -0400
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc Skylar Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just got a new SCSI hard drive, and am having some trouble repartitioning it. I
>would
>
> Well, fix your scsi setup then! Something as basic as that not working
> indicates that your scsi system is fouled.
I hate like the dickens to agree with the good Dr. Breuer, but
I have to say that it sounds like maybe a hardware problem.
Double-check the termination of the SCSI chain, especially
make sure there is only one termination on the drive end
(if there's only one drive, make sure it's terminated; if
more than one, make sure that only the last drive on the
end of the cable is terminated).
Let me ask the Stupid Question. You did include support for
your particular SCSI adapter in your kernel, right?
Can you elaborate on "Parition Magic crashes"? Does it just
dump core ungracefully, or does it give any error messages
when it departs? For that matter, if you can lay your hands on
a DOS / Win9x boot disk, can you partition the disk with
that? Although not ideal for Linux use, this at least will
give some indication whether the hardware is indeed crappy.
Some more verbose error messages might help diagnosis.
And, as Dr. Breuer said, what does /var/log/dmesg show?
This would be an indication whether the drive is found at
boot time by the kernel and what geometry the kernel thinks
the drive has.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RedHat7.1 boot problem:Block move error, 0xAE
Date: 12 Jun 2001 02:04:22 GMT
I have both Windows 98 SE and RedHat7.1 on a single computer, which has a
20gb harddrive. The partition of my harddrive looks like this:
| C for Win (7gb) |RH7.1(3.5gb)|Unallocated (9.5gb) |
|___________________|____________|______________________|
I some weird problems at startup.
1. (a). If linux is the default OS, *and* if you don't press <Enter> to
expedite, but just wait until the wait-time expires for it to start, linux
starts up perfectly.
(b). If you press <Enter> before the wait-time expires to expedite,
it's very likely to see:
boot: Linux
Block move error, 0xAE
Well, it's not frozen, you can keep pressing <Enter> at this time, until
it starts to load and you see the dots (.) expanding like .........
2. I have changed lilo.conf and made Windows 98 SE the default OS to boot,
and I do want Windows to be the default OS because people other than me in
my family don't know nothing about linux. I don't wanna bother to tell
them how to boot to Windows if linux is the default OS, although it's
easy.
Now each time, I have to select Linux at the boot menu and press
<Enter> to start my linux system. Then I always see
boot: Linux
Block move error, 0xAE
As usual, the system always starts up if I keep pressing <Enter> until I
see the dots (.) expand like this ...........
I am annoyed by the block move error. I reinstalled RedHat7.1 for a few
times, but the problem remains. What is the problem? How can I fix it?
Thanks a lot.
Gene
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From: bullwinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rh7.0 keyboard misconfiguration.
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 02:30:08 -0000
Marco Picanco wrote:
>
> Hi all...
>
> I am running a RH7.1 box with a natural keyboard and when i changed some
user
> configuration using the linuxconf the keyboard lost it's configuration.
> Cause i'm using portuguese(Brazil) characters I need to setup the
us-intl
> keyboard enabling deakeys. But I can't do it with the kdbconfig.
>
> Someone could help me???
>
> Marco
Greetings from Bullwinkle:
What is in the Keyboard section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config file? This
will be the input section of the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file, if you are
using XFree-4.0.3.
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From: "Nils" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat7.1 boot problem:Block move error, 0xAE
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:35:31 +0200
think it's a bios problem
did the bios support the 20 GB
you should try to make a small
partition about 8MB at the beginning (< 1024 Cyl)
of the HDD for /boot
Nils
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How come reboot also works from a non-su account?
Date: 12 Jun 2001 02:26:19 GMT
I am assuming that only the super user can do reboot, isn't this right?
But in my redhat7.1, I can do reboot from an ordinary user account. Is
this normal? How can it be since it means that every common user can
reboot my system!
Gene
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From: "Nils" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 newbie questions
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:47:51 +0200
1)
mount
look if / is mounted readonly (ro)
if not
mount / -o remount,ro
e2fsck -y /dev/hda1 (or hda2 where ever the error is)
2)
mkdir -p /mnt/win
mount -t vfat /dev/hdc1 (or where that disk is)
if it works
edit /etc/fstab (with vi or your fav. editor)
add the line
/dev/hdc /mnt/win vfat defaults 1 2
Nils
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From: "Nils" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How come reboot also works from a non-su account?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:54:19 +0200
edit /etc/inittab
comment the line
ca::ctrlaltdel: /sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now
out to disable <ctrl><alt><del>
rm -f /etc/security/console.apps/{reboot ,halt}
Nils
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lost libc.so.6
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:02:20 -0500
Xiaoqin Qiu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have a PC with RedHat 6.2 installed with 2.2.14-5 kernel. The
> /lib/libc.so.6 link got removed by accident, but the original file which
> it was pointing to is still in the system. Now I cann't do anything,
> even recreate the link failed.
>
> How can I get the link back, so the machine can function again?
>
> Thank you very much for your help!
>
> Xiaoqin
>
>
>
>
Boot from a CD which puts you into a shell, like Slackware-7.1. Then mount
the root partition on /mnt and relink libc.
For example, from the shell prompt you get when booting a Slackware CD:
# mount -f ext2 /dev/hda5 /mnt
# cd /mnt/lib
# ln -s libc.so.whatever libc.so.6
# umount /mnt
# reboot
And remove the CD.
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thanks Rob Davies for the hdparm info
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:15:30 -0500
Michael Perry wrote:
>
> I definitely stopped using hdparm after reading some of the cautionary
> notes. I also own a western digital drive which is not blacklisted but I
> think its performance is rather suspect. I am very interested in the IBM
> drives you use overall. I would not mind switching if I felt that things
> were better there.
>
> I posted in the other thread some basic stuff from /proc/ide/via which I
> found interesting. The other is running hdparm against the drives now and
> seeing what I get.
>
> The main problem I see is that there is no continuum of evidence since so
> many people report no problem, others report some problems and use the VIA
> ide driver, and others report quite terrible problems with losing file
> systems, re-installing, etc. I spent over two days searching on google
> for
> various reports on this. There are lots.
>
I posted in the other thread my results using "hdparm -tT /dev/hda" after
reviewing the manpage for hdparm - again thanks for the hint. It gave my
drive transfer rate as ~35MB/sec with the tuning. And I use the XFS
journaling filesystem in Linux which slows things by a marginal amount. A
raw partition read using dd will give a speed of ~39MB/sec with a 1GB read.
Can't refer to it all right now, I'm using Solaris 8 on the same box and it
can't mount XFS partitions, let alone extended logical partitions. But
even with Solaris running with this system the transfer rates are in the
neighborhood of 29-30MB/sec with no tuning whatever.
Using the IBM drive with the K7T Pro2-A motherboard works very well indeed.
Moreover, the 45GB drive only cost $155 plus ~$7 shipping from www.tcwo.com.
I don't work for them BTW, and their prices may have changed.
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mouse problem SuSe 7.1
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:17:12 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> I've just installed Linux 7.1, running KDE 2.0.1, after initial
> installation the mouse works fine, but on boot up afterwards the mouse is
> dead, theres a cursor but no movement, the installation never askes about
> mouse setting's I've tried to check if theres a driver (Module ?) loaded
> but I've no idea how to navigate without the mouse which makes thing
> difficult. any ideas ?
>
> In case you haven't guessed I'm a complete newcomer !
>
>
> cheers,
>
Perhaps you would like to tell the world what kind of mouse you have and
show us the appropriate section from your XF86Config file?
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From: Scott Drumm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Boot failure after IDE drive reconfiguration
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:39:44 GMT
FYI - A lilo re-install off the RedHat 7.0 installation disks corrected
the problem.
sdrumm3 wrote:
>
> > "Tinkering" sounds like you were trying to get it to do something it did
> > not want to do (maybe for good reason).
>
> Perish the thought (grin). No, actually, when I re-powered the system the
> first time, it was evident the BIOS had re-designated the 19.5GB drive from
> Drive 2 to Drive 1, resulting in the phantom drive phenomenon you mentioned.
> Selecting Linux from System Commander's boot menu failed to boot the OS. I
> removed and then re-installed system commander and it auto-detected
> (correctly) the Linux drive and boot partition; however, the partition
> failed to boot.
>
> > > 1. Restore the original drive configuration, get Linux back up, and
> make
> > > some rescue disks so I can go back in later.
> >
> > Probably a good idea, so even if you find you have to move it down to hdb,
> > you can go in and fix lilo.conf and fstab to point to the proper drive.
>
> I've accessed the ext2 partitions from the HAL 91 boot floppy. They
> identify and mount as drive hdc w/o problem. I'll be backing up /etc later
> today. The ONLY anomaly I saw in the HAL 91 boot sequence was during the
> partition check of drive hdc. The line for hdc included something like
> [PART TBL xxx/yyy/zzz] where x, y, and z were numbers I didn't right down,
> but could get later.
>
> As I understand it, each drive maintains it's own partition table, right?
> If so, the table shouldn't be affected by the removal or addition of another
> IDE device.
>
> > Can you access the CD-burner or DVD drive in current configuration?
>
> Yep, as a matter of fact, both work as designed....under Windows.
>
> I still haven't determine the specific problem, but my plan is to try a LILO
> re-install off the RedHat CD after backing up the pertinent Linux config
> files. I'm not sure if this will work, as /etc/lilo.conf seems correct
> as-is. Any other suggestions?
>
> Scott Drumm
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Birchall)
Subject: Re: How come reboot also works from a non-su account?
Date: 12 Jun 2001 03:54:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am assuming that only the super user can do reboot, isn't this right?
Generally, on a multi-user system with proper security in place and
all that, yes.
> But in my redhat7.1, I can do reboot from an ordinary user account.
> Is this normal? How can it be since it means that every common
> user can reboot my system!
If you are planning to use Redhat 7.1 for something other than your
own single-user system, you will obviously need to read a little bit
about security and what is going on here. :)
Basically:
/sbin/reboot is a link to /sbin/halt.
/usr/bin/reboot is a link to /usr/bin/consolehelper
TFM ('man consolehelper') says that consolehelper is a tool that
lets you run system programs as a normal user.
In Redhat 7.x consolehelper comes set up to let you run about 40
different system programs as a plain old user. I'm guessing this
was done to remove the need for newbies to log in as root, where
they might cause real damage. :)
If you don't want a given command to be available, nuking
/etc/pam.d/command should stop it. I'd strongly encourage reading
'man consolehelper' for a bit more info.
Hmmm, there's also a 'userhelper' command. I wonder if 'userhelper'
and 'consolehelper' are like 'hamburger helper.'
-Dan (mmmm, the users taste SO much better now!)
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From: Riyaz Mansoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xfree 4.1
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:59:59 +1000
hi
i installed xfree 4.1 glibc2.2 downloaded 11/june on my existing 4.0.2
xfree [ the one that comes with redhat 7.1 ] hoping to fix some
flickering problems, but have run into a big problem.
i first made a copy of my existing /etc directory recursively using -R
switch as a back up. then i stalled xfree 4.1. and i'm sure i downloaded
glib2.2 version. after successfule installation i ran "XFree86
-configure" and it gives a number of messages saying "symbon xxx not
found in blah/blah/modules/drivers/driver_yyy.o" and then gives a "core
dump". now here's the funny thing. Xconfigurator, which could not probe
my sis6326 card very well, configured my system very well. however, when
i startx, it loads twm not kde which was my original desktop. i ran an
app that had flickering problems and no flicker!!! but however much i
tried, i have not been able to get kde to run as my desktop.
just to be sure i ran "X", "XFree86 -xf86config /etc/X11/XF86Confg" and
as said Xconfigurtor and they all load the correct resolution.
is there a known problem with xfree4.1 and kde2.1 ?
so i renamed my existing /etc dirctory and renamed my backup /etc to
/etc. guess what! some shared library seems to be missing and it won't
load any desktop at all, which seems very odd.
at the moment i don't have a .xsession file [is that the right name?].
how can i set it up so that i'll know that its actually kde that's
failing to load?
any help will be extremely appreicated.
riyaz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank McCormick)
Subject: Xwindows 4.1 on an IBM 350-P100
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:00:03 GMT
Just upgraded to XWindows 4.1...and I am sorry already.
For some reason (missing libs) xf86cfg won't run - so I ran
xf86config.
Picked everything correctly including my S3 Trio64V card which X says
is UNSUPPORTED so it runs it as VGA. Which gives me a resolution of
about 320 x 200 . The card has a meg on board. Then I tried the
xfree86 - configure option. It decided VESA was the answer but it
wasn't..at least not on my machine . Server crashes.
Now what do I do ? Go back to 3.3 ????
Help!
=======I speak only for me ======
www.angelfire.com/ab2/lynda
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RedHat7.1 boot problem:Block move error, 0xAE
Date: 12 Jun 2001 03:57:44 GMT
I am kind of confused. My first partition is 7gb which is below 1024 cyl, and
my linux /boot is surely below 1024 Cyl in the partition next to the 7gb
Windows partition.
Nils <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> think it's a bios problem
> did the bios support the 20 GB
> you should try to make a small
> partition about 8MB at the beginning (< 1024 Cyl)
> of the HDD for /boot
> Nils
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How come reboot also works from a non-su account?
Date: 12 Jun 2001 03:55:13 GMT
Thanks a lot. Nils.
Nils <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> edit /etc/inittab
> comment the line
> ca::ctrlaltdel: /sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now
> out to disable <ctrl><alt><del>
> rm -f /etc/security/console.apps/{reboot ,halt}
> Nils
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1505 6th Avenue South #30
Saint Cloud, MN 56301
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