Linux-Setup Digest #453, Volume #19 Tue, 22 Aug 00 22:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help - Windoz clobbered Lilo ("Adam H.")
How do I set the physical geometry? ("K. Posern")
Re: First drive SCSI - not seen as first drive (Paul Lew)
Re: Helix-Gnome harddrive install problems ("Kevin Vandersloot")
Re: Lilo Installing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Installing Mandrake, Stuck on Configure X (Gregory)
Re: How do I set the physical geometry? (Dances With Crows)
Debian Dual Boot ("Bill")
Re: Kernel compiling: help please ("Ingemar Lundin")
proftp problems with logins ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Can I use a 486/50 for linux? ("Bruce D. Meyer")
Re: RedHat Annoyance/ide-scsi problems (Duane)
Re: Linux fdisk only reads 1024 cylinders ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to back up my Linux? (E J)
Re: upgrade mandrake 6.1 to 7.1 ("Dale")
Re: Help - Windoz clobbered Lilo (E J)
Re: No eth0 device on Linux Server (Bob Heck)
Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux.... (Arthur Sowers)
Re: Can I use a 486/50 for linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Adam H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help - Windoz clobbered Lilo
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:21:49 +1000
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for your tip, however - I've got a *slight* problem...
I don't have a Linux boot disk. :-(
I've tried booting up off the Redhat 6.2 CD into recovery mode, but
the bash prompt doesn't understand lilo...
Have you got any other suggestions.
TIA
Adam
> Boot via your Linux Boot Disk and then run the command "lilo" as root.
This
> will restore your mbr to the way it was. (By the way, I have done this
twice
> in the past I believe :)
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From: "K. Posern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: How do I set the physical geometry?
Date: 22 Aug 2000 22:32:34 GMT
Hi.
I've got a IBM 45GB Deskstar DTLA 307045 with CHS=16383/16/63 (printed
on the label of the harddisk).
I suppose these CHS-values are the values of the physical geometry?!
But I don't get linux to show me these values as "physical geometry".
When I type "cat /dev/ide/hdc/geometry" the physical geometry is always:
89355/16/63
The logical geometry vary according to what I passed to the kernel at
boot-time (with "append=" in lilo.conf):
1027/255/63 or 89355/16/63 or 16383/16/63
So is it o.k. that on the harddisk is printed CHS=16383/16/63 and linux
always uses 89355/16/63???
One information on the harddisk-label which could be important on that:
In LBA-mode there are
90 069 840 sectors
I hope someone could help me.
Greetings
Knuth Posern
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: First drive SCSI - not seen as first drive
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:47:16 GMT
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:12:58 GMT, M. Buchenrieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Devin Null <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>[...]
>
>>>> On installing lilo during setup there is a warning that "sd2a is not the
>>>> first drive" even though it is indeed SCSI ID 0 and I boot from it fine
>>>> under MS-Windows.
>
>[...]
>
>Disable the two IDE drives (unplug drives), then run /sbin/lilo again.
>
Don't need to. I have linux on the 2nd ide drive with nt4 on the 1st ide
drive; I got the nearly the same msg "hdb5 is not on the 1st drive".
Lilo still works as the "warning" is an annoyance.
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From: "Kevin Vandersloot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Helix-Gnome harddrive install problems
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:17:48 -0800
In article <8nlnde$chb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, J
Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK. I've successfully upgraded to Helix-Gnome
> 1.2 on my desktop and elected to save my
> Helix-Gnome files. I was hoping I'd be able to
> use the same files to upgrade my laptop (both
> machines run RedHat 6.1) but I'm getting
> nowhere. I copied the files to my laptop but
> when I launch the Installer and browse to the
> location of the files, the "NEXT" button is
> disabled and it's impossible to initiate the
> upgrade. Anyone else get this to work? Thanks.
>
> --
I think you also need some xml files along with
the packages. For instance looking at the helix
ftp site in the RedHat directory they have
metapackages.xml
packageinfo.xml
updates.xml
Try copying the package xml files to your package
directory
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lilo Installing
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:32:41 GMT
I didn't install it into /sbin. I unpacked the tar file in my home
directory and compiled the stuff to get the lilo executable. I tried to
run it from the same directory. Is that problem?
Thanks
Vikram
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
,
"ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2000 at 16:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >I downloaded a latest version of lilo that supports hard disks
greater
> >than 1024 cylinders. I tried to run lilo but is throwing me an error
> >saying that it is expecting 21.0 version or later but found 20.0. How
> >can I overcome this problem to install Lilo?
> Did you install the version of lilo you downloaded?
> If yes, where did you install it to? The executable
> should be in the /sbin directory. Make sure that
> this is the case. Also make sure the version you are
> installing is greater that 21.x.
>
> --
> Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
> Linux! Guerrilla UNIX Development Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus.
> (By [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
> 1:20pm up 43 days, 16:22, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory)
Subject: Re: Installing Mandrake, Stuck on Configure X
Date: 22 Aug 2000 23:42:03 GMT
In message <8nuqro$i60$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kjell
magne Fagerbakke) writes:
:>
:>I don't know if this helps, but I had troubles with my RedHat instalation.
:>There, if I remember right, I choosed the default for both monitor and video
:>card (hope your system detects both), but any resolution higher than 460/640
:>was not possible to get. Than it crashed and I had to do it once more.
:>
:>km
:>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:>>First post here, so forgive any missteps please.
:>>
:>>I'm trying to install Linux Mandrake 7.0 for the first time, using the
:>>graphical install interface, and I'm having trouble at the "Configure
:>>X" step. I think I am having a problem with either the monitor (I have
:>>several, none of which are on the list of monitors to choose from) or
:>>the video card (again, not on the list). It is a Jaton, but which one
:>>I am not sure, and none of those listed on the choice list seem to
:>>work. I try to run the test, and it just says "an error occurred, try
:>>changing some parameters".
:>>
:>>I'm at wit's end with this, I'd REALLY like to get this going, having
:>>already failed many attempted installs of FreeBSD (I guess I'm just
:>>too ill-informed to do that one, I don't know). I'd heard Mandrake was
:>>a very easy Unix derivative to install, and it has been, up until this
:>>point.
:>>
:>>Any pointers, tips, questions to help pinpoint the problem are
:>>welcome.
:>>
:>>Thank you.
I'm having the same problem with v. 7.1 but my hardware is supposed to be
supported....it's viewsonic p815 and matrox millennium g400. any suggestions
will be appreciated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How do I set the physical geometry?
Date: 23 Aug 2000 00:00:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 22 Aug 2000 22:32:34 GMT, K. Posern wrote:
>I've got a IBM 45GB Deskstar DTLA 307045 with CHS=16383/16/63 (printed
>on the label of the harddisk).
>I suppose these CHS-values are the values of the physical geometry?!
[snip]
>One information on the harddisk-label which could be important on that:
>In LBA-mode there are 90 069 840 sectors
Modern hard disks do not have anything like a physical geometry in the
old-style sense of the term. That "16383/16/63" printed on the drive is
shorthand for "This disk is too big for the ancient disk-size-reporting
method that BIOS 'normal mode' used back in the day."
What exactly is the problem that requires you to pass geometry arguments
to the kernel at boot time? Is your machine's BIOS so old that it can't
be upgraded to something that can handle large disks? Machines built
after 1997 or so should have no problems with most disks. If the BIOS
is too old, you can probably find out what the Linux kernel thinks the
geometry of the disk is by booting from a rescue system like Tom's
RootBoot (http://www.toms.net/rb/ ) and running "fdisk". That will say
something like:
Disk /dev/hda 255 heads, 63 secotrs, 5606 cylinders
Also, Linux kernels prior to 2.2.14 had problems with accessing IDE
disks > 32G. See if you can get a newer kernel--RH 6.2, SuSE 6.4,
Mandrake 7.1, et al shipped with kernels capable of handling IDE disks
up to 137G.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Debian Dual Boot
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:27:08 -0500
I want to dual boot Debian Linux Potato 2.2 with Windows 98 Second Edition.
I currently have a system dual booting RH 6.2 with Windows 98 SE. I have
two hard drives one for each OS. I want to remove RH and put in Debian.
How do I do this without interupting LILO/ the boot process?
Thanks.
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From: "Ingemar Lundin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel compiling: help please
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:29:12 GMT
I've got one idea...
Use a kernel thats not alpha and is stabil, ie. 2.2.16
/IL
> Hi,
>
> I've tried to compile a 2.4.0-test6 kernel and everything
> works fine until I tried to make modules. At this time
> I've the message below.
>
> Also, if I try to boot with my new kernel, I get this
> message:
> "Warning: unable to open an initial console
> Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel"
>
> and everything freeze.
>
> If someone can help, it will be appreciate
>
> Many thanks
============================================================================
----
> emd.c: In function 'umsdos_emd_dir_readentry':
> emd.c:145: invalid operands to binary -
> emd.c: In function 'unmdos_writeentry':
> emd.c::264: invalid operands to binary -
> emd.c::264: invalid operands to binary -
> emd.c::264: invalid operands to binary -
> make[2]: *** [emd.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux/fs/umsdos'
> make[1]: *** [_modsubdir_umsdos] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux/fs'
> make: *** [mod_fs] Error 2
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: proftp problems with logins
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:24:35 GMT
Hi, I set up proftpd v1.2.0rc2, and I'm running
Red Hat Linux 6.0. I can login as 'anonymous' with
an e-mail address as the password, but I cannot
login as 'ftp' or any of my other users. I'm not
sure what is causing this problem. I have a user
'eric' and inside proftpd.conf I have the
configuration:
<Anonymous ~eric>
AnonRequirePassword on
User eric
Group eric
MaxClients 10
DisplayLogin welcome.msg
DisplayFirstChdir .message
<Limit LOGIN>
AllowAll
</Limit>
<Directory *>
<Limit WRITE>
DenyAll
</D</Limit>
</Directory>
</Anonymous>
If anyone can help me with this problem, please
reply or e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Bruce D. Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can I use a 486/50 for linux?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:29:21 -0400
Reply-To: "Bruce D. Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have a 486 / 50 with 8 MB ram, and about 235 MB HD space. Anyone know off
the top of their head I it is worth installing RH62 to this? or will it
thrash horribly? A pur workstation, non X conifg would be fine,l just
soemthign to hack out aek, sed, perl stuff on etc...
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RedHat Annoyance/ide-scsi problems
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:15:55 -0700
"K. Bruner" wrote:
>
> This probably qualifies as venting, as I realize that I am very
> frustrated and impatient, but so be it.
>
> I have a PC. Up until last month, I was running RedHat 6.0, relatively
> problem-free. I had purchased an IDE HP CD-RW 8200 series drive, which,
> with maybe an hour of tinkering, two at the most, I got working under the
> ide-scsi module so I could use cdrecord. Worked wonderfully.
>
> So, I "upgrade" to RH 6.2, and for the life of me, I cannot get the
> ide-scsi module to give a damn about the drive. The module loads, but
> just ignores the drive. I have tried using the same lilo.conf and
> modules.conf as I did before, and have recompiled the kernel with various
> permutations of SCSI stuff as modules or compiled into the kernel, but
> nada.
>
> That is not the total purpose of my venting, however. I bought the RH
> 6.2 Standard Edition, and since I hadn't had any trouble with the initial
> 6.2 installation, I hadn't activated my 90 days installation support. After
> spending this past Saturday tearing my hair out, I activated the support
> Sunday morning. I "register" and enter my registration number, and it
> says, "Hi, K! You have 6.2 Standard Edition..." But it won't let me use
> the web access to submit a problem. I run all over the site and finally
> see some small print saying that I should wait 45 minutes for the account
> to kick in, even though it looked like it had already figured out that I
> was logged into the account. So, I wait an hour. Then two. Then
> several. Nada.
>
> Then I send mail to the web site support address outlining my quandary.
> This was, of course, Sunday, so I knew I had to be a little patient. I
> get up this morning and I'd gotten email that my support account was all
> set up and working, and, yes, it was! So I enter my problem through the
> web page and it seems to take it fine. So, I go to work, and "log" into
> the support page to check on the ticket's progress, and it tells me my
> ticket it closed because, "once you have recompiled your kernel there
> isn't much installation support can do." They also tell me to look at the
> CD-RW how-to that I have already looked at, once, successfully under 6.0,
> and then, very unsuccessfully, under 6.2. Also, they say this would be a
> great problem to take to a newsgroup!
>
> I'm not really looking for hints on getting the drive working at this
> point. I am, however, very frustrated and annoyed.
>
> I'm about 5 inches from buying SUSE or Caldera on my way home from work.
I agree that activating the official RH support seems to be unnecesarily
complicated. A definite disincentive for actually buying Redhat. But
since you already have it... :-)
I have to admit I somewhat sympathize with RH not supporting custom
kernels. I don't know why they did not simply tell you that you do not
need to recompile the kernel in RH 6.2 to use ide-scsi (I also purchased
the standard edition). You just need to put a:
append="hdc=ide-scsi"
into your /etc/lilo.conf file, and in /etc/rc.d/rc.local add:
modprobe ide-scsi
I never figured out entries in modules.conf that worked. The typical
ones like:
alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
did not work for me, which is why I just loaded the module from
rc.local.
--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux fdisk only reads 1024 cylinders
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 01:10:39 GMT
Here is the information about my hard drive:
**Linux (cfdisk)
Disk drive /dev/hdb
Size: 2,111,864,832 bytes (commas added for clarity)
Heads: 64
Sectors per Track: 63
Cylinders: 1023
**BIOS (CMOS)
Primary IDE Slave Maxtor [90510D4-(PS)]
Type: Auto
Total Sectors: 10004400
Maximum Capacity: 5122MB
Multi-Sector Transfers: 16 Sectors
LBA-Mode Control: Enabled
Transfer Mode: FPIO4/DMA2
Ultra DMA: Mode 2
**Windows(DOS fdisk)
Total disk space is 4884 Mbytes (1 Mbyte=1048576 bytes)
I don't know how to get any more relevant information about my hard
drive.
thanks...
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I got a new 30GB HD a couple of weeks ago.
> >I installed Win98 on that drive, but I still had
> >the old one (5.2GB) so I set it as a slave drive
> >and installed Red Hat 6.2 on it.
> >
> >It installed ok, but the problem is that linux
> >does not see 5.2GB but 2.7GB or something like
> >that
> >or 1024 cylinders.
>
> What does fdisk display for heads and cylinders, it sounds like you
are
> guessing. Any drive less than about 8.4GB should be able to be
translated
> to less than 1024 cyl. One of my drives (5? GB) is listed as 667 cyl
and
> 240 heads (even though it physically has 16 heads and many more
cyls.).
> If your drive was not translated at all, it would only be around
504-528
> MB depending how a MB is counted.
>
> >I know you can only boot from the first 1024
> >cylinders of any disk but fdisk should at least be
> >able to see it.
>
> What do CMOS setup or kernel boot messages show? For example:
>
> hda: WDC WD273BA, 26105MB w/1961kB Cache, CHS=3328/255/63, (U)DMA
> hdb: WDC AC35100L, 4924MB w/256kB Cache, CHS=667/240/63, (U)DMA
> hdc: Disabling (U)DMA for WDC AC22100H
> hdc: DMA disabled
> hdc: WDC AC22100H, 2014MB w/128kB Cache, CHS=4092/16/63
> hdd: ATAPI 4X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
>
> I manually translated my hdc to 64 heads and 1023 cyl with fdisk
expert
> (x) mode.
>
> >Actually, I remember installing Red Hat before on
> >the 5.2GB drive when it was set as a master and it
> >read fine.
> >
> >I've been trying since then and I can't find much
> >or maybe I'm not looking in the right places.
> >
> >I'm relatively new to non-DOS based Systems so I
> >would appreciate all or any of the help you could
> >give.
>
> Sort of difficult to say without some actual figures from CMOS, kernel
> boot messages or fdisk.
>
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to back up my Linux?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:24:12 -0700
I would rather go into / and backup all the files except for :
/mnt - you don't want to backup your mounted directories
/proc - these are virtual devices, if you tried to back it up, you get a lot of
errors.
/tmp - you don't want to backup your temporary files
The command I use is
tar cvfz /mnt/harddisk/linux/home.tar.gz home
I restored everything by doing a fresh install of RH6.1
gunzip and untar everything back.
Do an upgrade of everything using RH6.1
I did it once and everything came out ok.
Yura wrote:
> Hi!
> I just installed everything, all nice and cute.
> I want to somehow back it up.
> Will basic copying of all / on another Disk and then zipping it be a good idea?
> Ot maybe there is something more advanced and not difficuilt to learn?
>
> Will be glad to hear soem reponces.
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From: "Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: upgrade mandrake 6.1 to 7.1
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:19:13 -0400
You should always back up files whenever doing an upgrade. The 7.1 disc
offers you the option to upgrade as opposed to doing a new install. If you
don't have medium on which do back up your files, you should store them in
your /home paritition. This way, you can do an upgrade OR a reinstall
without losing any info. If you don't have a /home parition set up, I would
suggest that you do a clean install and create one. I use have used my
/home and have never lost any info whether doing an upgrade or a clean
install.
Dale
"Buschman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Hey guys I currently have a working mandrake 6.1 linux box. I got in
> Mandrake 7.1 but don't know how to upgrade without whipping out all
> the info already on this machine. The only irreplacable info on this
> machine is telnet and some web files. Should I save them to another
> machine or is the upgrade process safe? I would not be devistated if
> I lost the info on this machine, but it certainly would suck!
>
> Any help on the Mandrake Upgrade would be much appreciated.
>
> Buschman
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help - Windoz clobbered Lilo
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:30:21 -0700
Put in your Redhat 6.2
Don't do an Install of any kind.
Do an upgrade, and pick a small file to upgrade.
When it comes to the lilo installation,
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A FLOPPY AVAILABLE TO CREATE YOUR LINUX FLOPPY DISK
FOR THE NEXT TIME YOUR MBR GETS KILLED.
"Adam H." wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Thanks for your tip, however - I've got a *slight* problem...
> I don't have a Linux boot disk. :-(
>
> I've tried booting up off the Redhat 6.2 CD into recovery mode, but
> the bash prompt doesn't understand lilo...
>
> Have you got any other suggestions.
>
> TIA
>
> Adam
>
> > Boot via your Linux Boot Disk and then run the command "lilo" as root.
> This
> > will restore your mbr to the way it was. (By the way, I have done this
> twice
> > in the past I believe :)
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From: Bob Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No eth0 device on Linux Server
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 01:29:42 GMT
Paul Kimoto wrote:
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Heck wrote:
> > I decided to check the /dev directory and found that the
> > eth0 device file was missing, in fact there were no eth_ files at all.
> > There many device files in this directory that are not present in my
> > system, but they are there if I need them. I feel that I need the eth0
> > device file.
>
> Not on Linux, where there are no entries in /dev for network devices.
>
> (These are just suggestions: Read the pseudofile /proc/pci to see
whether
> the hardware is being seen by the kernel: the Digital "Tulip" cards
should
> refer to something like "DECchip 21140". If so, make sure that the
"tulip"
> kernel module is loaded. Then try the appropriate "ifconfig" command to
> try to turn it on. If that fails, try looking through the Linux
> Documentation Project http://www.linuxdoc.org/ .)
>
> --
> Paul Kimoto
> Disclaimer: Other than explicit citations of URLs, hyperlinks appearing
> in this article have been inserted without the permission of the author.
I have checked the /proc/pci file and found that the kernel sees the
ethernet controller as SMC 1211TX (Rev 16) on IRQ 10. When I try the
command 'iconfig eth0 up', the response is 'unknown interface: no such
device'. Entering the command 'iconfig', it shows that local loopback only
is running. The SMC 1211TX is the model of the NIC that I currently have
in the system. The /etc/conf.modules file contain the line 'alias tulip.o
eth0. Could it be that both of the NIC (10/100 Mbs models) are not really
based on the DEC chip and have partially fooled the kernel? I must say
that this level of investigation is improving my knowledge of the hardware
and Linux. I would be nice though, to manage to bring up a complete
server. Then I can move on to the many other things I need to learn.
Bob Heck
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From: Arthur Sowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux....
Date: 23 Aug 2000 01:40:54 GMT
Thanks for the input. I looked at Gnumeric, but I can't see where it can
do any macros (like Excel, and L-123 can). StarCalc can do macros.
I also forgot to mention some stuff in the original post; Applix installed
on the RH 5.2 goofed up the color scheme on the fvwm window manager (so
its all reversed, AND what is supposed to be a white background on the
Applix Word, turns into a black background and I can't see the
letters... there is no troubleshooting section in the Applix manual,
either). This does not happen with Applix installed on RH 6.2, though.
I'm still "feeling my way around" this stuff, but StarOffice and WP8 sure
came through with good and functional installs.
There is really a lot of good stuff among the "distribution" packages,
though, and I expect to tinker with all of it as time goes by.
Art
=== no change to below, included for reference and context ====
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, D G wrote:
> Arthur Sowers wrote:
> >
> > FYI, I'm a very newbie newbie, but have been dabbling with Linux since
> > Summer of '99 (see footnote 1, below on experience summary). I got into
> > Linux because I was disgusted with Win9X, by the way.
> >
> > Mainly I need a wordprocessor and a spreadsheet (something like Excel, if
> > possible) and I need that to get work done. The OS and tinkering with it
> > is going to be a long, drawn out hobby for me.
> [review snipped]
>
> Gnumeric is a good excel clone, since you're looking for a spreadsheet.
> AbiWord is OK as a word processor, though it has quite a few glitches
> and missing functions so far. Both programs take up FAR less space then
> the applications you reviewed.
>
> I use StarOffice because it contains the only decent presentation tool I
> could find. I'm eagerly awaiting the rollout of KDE2, though. I have
> Beta3, but haven't had time to test it.
>
> --
> DG
> e-mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (remove the Z's--they're what I do when I read SPAM!)
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can I use a 486/50 for linux?
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 01:43:05 GMT
I'm using my 486/50 with RH6.2 as a Samaba server and it works fine. I
have 24MB of RAM with an 850MB hard drive though. But remember, that's
what makes Linux so great, it'll run just fine on even your 4MB box. I
don't exactly know how much you'll be able to squeeze onto that 235MB
hard drive, but as far as processor power, the 486/50 is sufficient.
Nelson
In article <8nv5ut$op0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Bruce D. Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a 486 / 50 with 8 MB ram, and about 235 MB HD space. Anyone
know off
> the top of their head I it is worth installing RH62 to this? or will
it
> thrash horribly? A pur workstation, non X conifg would be fine,l just
> soemthign to hack out aek, sed, perl stuff on etc...
>
>
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