Linux-Setup Digest #464, Volume #19 Thu, 24 Aug 00 03:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: SendMail "catch-all" alias? ("djmiller")
Linux, XML, and assalting Windows ("paul snow")
Re: How to run WM on remote display? (abraxas)
PPP Connection Problems ("c")
ftp login failed (Baolai Ge)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Re: PPP Connection Problems ("c")
Re: Newbie, Make CD-RW bootable for dual boot? ("Kart")
Re: Will X run ok on 266MHz/32MB machine? (David Punsalan)
Re: Mount: How can user mount vfat floppy with module? (Eric)
Re: problem with phprc4 (Kevin Maloney)
Re: unix man pages on line not found on www.manpages.com, duh... (Lew Pitcher)
Re: how to change my CLASSPATH ? (Davide Bianchi)
Re: Sound on RedHat 6.2 (Davide Bianchi)
Re: Bad upgrade renders machine immune to linux :( (Davide Bianchi)
Re: BIOS-->hdb-->LILO-->{linux(hdb);windows(hda)} (Eric)
Re: Master Boot Record (The Husband of Incontinentia Buttocks)
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From: "djmiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: SendMail "catch-all" alias?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 04:18:19 GMT
I'm not sure I understand (pardon the newbie); how is this command run? Is
this an entry in the aliases directory, <> included?
"J.E.J. op den Brouw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Really, this should be asked at the comp.mail.sendmail newsgroup.
>
> # place to which unknown users should be forwarded
> Kuser user -m -a<>
> DLlocal:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> This is for the main domain name, not for virtual domains (AFAIK).
>
> djmiller wrote:
> >
> > Is there any way to set up the aliases so that all mail goes to one
mailbox,
> > no matter who it's for? Or rather, some "default" alias so that when
> > someone sends e-mail to an undefined user name or alias, it goes to a
> > mailbox instead of getting bounced?
>
> --
> --jesse
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> J. op den brouw Johanna Westerdijkplein 75
> Haagse Hogeschool 2521 EN DEN HAAG
> Sector Techniek The Netherlands
> Opleiding Elektrotechniek +31-70-4458936
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Linux - because reboots are for hardware changes
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From: "paul snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 04:22:23 GMT
Here is a few observations:
Linux on the desktop (and as a server) requires it to beat Windows XXX hands
down for ease of configuration, security, and management.
Installing software is simply the act of constructing in storage a proper
representation of the software. In other words, our talking about
installing software on a computer is like a painter insisting she is
installing a picture of a duck onto her painting. It doesn't matter how she
does it, she is rendering the duck, not installing it.
We need to get rid of install programs, on all platforms. There isn't
another single thing we do on computers that causes more in dollars and time
(Solitaire *is* a close second, however ;-).
XML can be used to define a program in abstract. A single, separate
Software Rendering Facility can be used to take a program's abstract form in
XML and render it to the target computer system.
XML can be used to capture the options required for this rendering.
XML can be used to refer to a group of programs in abstract (XML), and their
options (XML), in order to define a single definition that can be expressed
in different ways on different computer systems to construct an operational,
distributed application. (Unlike today, where we have to install every web
server, every firewall, every Java JDK, every etc. all from scratch, with
one mistake preventing any of it from working!)
This discussion about how XML might be used along with Linux to create a new
concept in Operating Systems is beginning. We have the technology and the
know how. We just have to take our computer system, set it on its side and
view it a bit differently. This technology is going to completely change
the rules of software configuration, management, and security, and you can
make it happen.
http://www.egroups.com/group/xmlos/
http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/xmlos/
Paul Snow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: How to run WM on remote display?
Date: 24 Aug 2000 04:24:40 GMT
In comp.os.linux.x Dave Skolnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmmm. I think you are making life difficult for yourself. We use Exceed a lot
> at work and don't have any complaints about speed.
>
Me either, I find exceed to be quite snappy.
> I would speculate that your approach fired up an x-window, (managed by your
> local, Exceed window manager), then launched the linux window manager and GNOME
> desktop within that window. If I am correct you have a whole extra layer of
> overhead; it shouldn't be a surprise that it is slow.
>
Exactly. I think a better way to do it would be to set up your variables on the
client side appropriately (setenv DISPLAY=blah.blah.blah.blah:0, etc) and then
starting your session there.
It may also be worth noting that theres a world of difference between 10 and
100 meg networks. Ive only used exceed on 100base networks, so my take on
the situation may be biased.
=====yttrx
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From: "c" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP Connection Problems
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:32:43 -0500
Hi
I am new to Linux and am having trouble connecting to the internet under
users other than root.
I am running Redhat 6.2 and using the KDE GUI.
As root I can start Kppp and dialup to my ISP, everything is fine.
As any other user when I start Kppp I am requested to enter root password.
When I do so, nothing happens.
When I look at the processes running, neither Kppp or pppd are active.
I've tried several suggestions found in the help files and on the net from
Redhat.com but none have solved this problem.
/etc/security/console.apps/kppp shows that :
USER=root
PROGRAM= /usr/sbin/kppp
SESSION=false
It was suggested that if there was a file /etc/kppp.allow that listed
authorized users, this would allow root and all listed users to access
pppd -- I created the file as demonstrated, but this still didn't solve the
problem.
Another suggestion was to change the permissions as follows: (this from
redhat.com)
chown root /usr/sbin/pppd
chmod 4755 /usr/sbin/pppd
This didn't work either.
I've tried various Kppp setup options to no avail.
There's obviously something I'm missing (no surprise ... I've only had linux
a couple of days now!). The man pages don't really help me with this
problem, although that's probably because I don't have enough experience
with linux (yet)!
Please note: My modem works, i can dial up to the isp, and I can access the
net but only as root.
Are there any solutions to this problem? If so, what are they?
If more info is needed, please let me know.
thanks in advance
c
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From: Baolai Ge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ftp login failed
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 00:45:06 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm running Linux 6.1 and having trouble with
ftp login. After I type in my password, it always
prompts:
530 Login incorrect
Login failed
I have /etc/inetd.conf ftp entry uncommented
and have no /etc/ftp* files, nor entries in hosts.*.
What should I look into?
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:33:56 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
What you are suggesting is nothing new, it has been around since the first
timeshare systems. My interpretation of your article is that you will be
reintroducing the old timeshare system that have overall been rejected
because of serious issues of security, privacy, and reliability. Not to
mention the performance bottle neck at centeral unit.
It seems that your have read avout Microsoft.NET and you suggesting a form a
Linux.NET. Microsoft.NET has too many issues for it to work, without one
hell of an expensive advertising campain directed to form clueless userbase
that are unwilling or unable to realize the problems with Microsoft.NET are
indemic with it core to the point that it cannot be fixed with todays
network bandwidths.
How are your planning to handle the bandwidth problem? How are you planning
to get the OS and libraries and other software on a host that is needed to
handle XML without having to install it? Who is going to run the servers?
Were is that data going to be stored? Who will guarentee that one day's
data files will be readable by the programs available the next day? Who is
going to defray the cost of running the servers? etc.
paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3q1p5.14319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Here is a few observations:
>
> Linux on the desktop (and as a server) requires it to beat Windows XXX
hands
> down for ease of configuration, security, and management.
>
> Installing software is simply the act of constructing in storage a proper
> representation of the software. In other words, our talking about
> installing software on a computer is like a painter insisting she is
> installing a picture of a duck onto her painting. It doesn't matter how
she
> does it, she is rendering the duck, not installing it.
>
> We need to get rid of install programs, on all platforms. There isn't
> another single thing we do on computers that causes more in dollars and
time
> (Solitaire *is* a close second, however ;-).
>
> XML can be used to define a program in abstract. A single, separate
> Software Rendering Facility can be used to take a program's abstract form
in
> XML and render it to the target computer system.
>
> XML can be used to capture the options required for this rendering.
>
> XML can be used to refer to a group of programs in abstract (XML), and
their
> options (XML), in order to define a single definition that can be
expressed
> in different ways on different computer systems to construct an
operational,
> distributed application. (Unlike today, where we have to install every
web
> server, every firewall, every Java JDK, every etc. all from scratch, with
> one mistake preventing any of it from working!)
>
> This discussion about how XML might be used along with Linux to create a
new
> concept in Operating Systems is beginning. We have the technology and the
> know how. We just have to take our computer system, set it on its side
and
> view it a bit differently. This technology is going to completely change
> the rules of software configuration, management, and security, and you can
> make it happen.
>
> http://www.egroups.com/group/xmlos/
> http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/xmlos/
>
> Paul Snow
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: "c" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP Connection Problems
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 00:58:01 -0500
Hi
Well, I've played around some more:
added the suid bit to pppd and made it readable and executable by all
in /etc/security/console.apps/kppp set SESSION=true
Also set permissions for /etc/kppp.allow to be readable and executable by
users.
there is the following suggestion for getting rid of the password dialog
box:
rm /usr/bin/kppp
chmod u+s /usr/sbin/kppp
ln -s /usr/sbin/kppp /usr/bin/kppp
I've tried this (but first made a copy of the original kppp file) and now I
can dial up as a user other than root.
Not sure exactly what caused things to work now, I've tried so many things
:).
Oh well ... i've learned something ... wow! Now just have to remember it
all, and perhaps figure out why things worked.
c
c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8o28mc$ltr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi
>
> I am new to Linux and am having trouble connecting to the internet under
> users other than root.
> I am running Redhat 6.2 and using the KDE GUI.
> As root I can start Kppp and dialup to my ISP, everything is fine.
> As any other user when I start Kppp I am requested to enter root password.
> When I do so, nothing happens.
> When I look at the processes running, neither Kppp or pppd are active.
>
> I've tried several suggestions found in the help files and on the net from
> Redhat.com but none have solved this problem.
> /etc/security/console.apps/kppp shows that :
> USER=root
> PROGRAM= /usr/sbin/kppp
> SESSION=false
>
> It was suggested that if there was a file /etc/kppp.allow that listed
> authorized users, this would allow root and all listed users to access
> pppd -- I created the file as demonstrated, but this still didn't solve
the
> problem.
>
> Another suggestion was to change the permissions as follows: (this from
> redhat.com)
> chown root /usr/sbin/pppd
> chmod 4755 /usr/sbin/pppd
>
> This didn't work either.
>
> I've tried various Kppp setup options to no avail.
>
> There's obviously something I'm missing (no surprise ... I've only had
linux
> a couple of days now!). The man pages don't really help me with this
> problem, although that's probably because I don't have enough experience
> with linux (yet)!
>
> Please note: My modem works, i can dial up to the isp, and I can access
the
> net but only as root.
>
> Are there any solutions to this problem? If so, what are they?
> If more info is needed, please let me know.
>
> thanks in advance
>
> c
>
>
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From: "Kart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie, Make CD-RW bootable for dual boot?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 07:56:13 +0200
"Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8o1o4f$rao$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> I'm running Windows 98 and I don't want to partition the hard drive,
> is it possible to install Linux on a CD-RW drive and make it bootable,
> or do I need another hard-drive?
>
> Thanks for any feedback, I haven't seen any doc's on how to do this.
Perhaps you just need to use the UFS system which will let you have a Linux
install on the same partition.
Have a look at the HOWTOs from the Linux Documentation Project :
http://www.linuxfr.org/LDP is one possible mirror for this.
>
> J
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: David Punsalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Will X run ok on 266MHz/32MB machine?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 00:55:40 -0500
This depends on what applications you want to run in X.
I run emacs, xterm, gv (for viewing post script files) and fvwm comforably
on my 486SX 50Mhz with 16 MB of RAM. These run fine.
However, Netscape runs painfully slow. As does any application involving
pictures.
But your computer is much faster. I would think it would be okay.
- David
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mount: How can user mount vfat floppy with module?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:21:41 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alexander Lindhorst wrote:
>
> Hi, everybody,
>
> is there any chance for a user to mount a floppy disk with a fs other than
> ext2 without root having to modprobe the module?
> In my case, I need to mount disks with a vfat filesystem and I don't want to
> have to su and modprobe all the time. I have a 2.2.16 kernel with only ext2
> (rootfs) compiled into the kernel; all other fs are compiled as modules.
>
> I'd be happy if anyone could shed some light on this. Thanks!
> Alex
How about the mtools?
there's info about it in the manpages.
I'm not sure if these require the vfat module to be loaded though.
Yyou can always automatically load the module during booting.
You can add a line in /etc/rc.d/rc.local,
modprobe /full/path/to/vfat.o
There may be more elegant ways to get a module loaded during boot, but
this will work too. (perhaps through linuxconf?)
Eric
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From: Kevin Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with phprc4
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 06:29:24 GMT
I got the same thing, although I was using php-4.0.1pl2.tar.gz as the
source. I hope to find out all the answers tomorrow, as I haven't gotten
any clues so far!
Hello World wrote:
>
>
> when i start the apache with the newly compiled php4rc1, i get:
> Cannot load /usr/local/apache/libexec/libphp4.so into server:
> libmysqlclient.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory
>
> no such problem with php4pl1. can somebody tell me why?
>
>
--
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.misc,rec.humor,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: unix man pages on line not found on www.manpages.com, duh...
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:46:32 -0400
Heiner Steven wrote:
>
> Dan Jacobson wrote:
>
> > > > See `man lilo' to understand how to setup the bootloader.
> > > Hmmm... must apparently install my Linux diskette before being able to see
> > > this manpage for my distibution[?]
> >
> > To look for manual pages on-line, I guessed and typed in www.manpages.com
> > but got more than I bargained for. :-)
>
> Well, I prefer "http://docs.sun.com", although they have less
> pictures ;-)
I assume that http://docs.sun.com/ carries man pages (a la the
Unix/Linux 'man' command).
An alternative to this would be the man pages found at the Linux
Documentation Project's website at http://www.linuxdoc.org/
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: how to change my CLASSPATH ?
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 06:44:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:48:07 +0200, "Daniel Pfuhl"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi
>
>Can somebody tell me how to update my CLASSPATH var in
>SuSE 6.3 ?
That depend by your shell. If you are using bash, you have
an "hidden" file named .bashrc in your home directory.
Put the definition of the CLASSPATH variable in there
and add the variable to the export command.
Something like:
CLASSPATH=./:/usr/jdkWHATEVERIS
export PATH CLASSPATH .... OTHERTHINGS
Then close the session (exit) and relog to check if the
changes are ok.
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: Sound on RedHat 6.2
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 06:46:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:57:44 -1000, Scott Delibac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Ive been trying to configure my sound card for my Linux system and have
>had no luck. It works fine in windows 98 on my dual boot. It is a
>soundblaster AWE32.
>
>Any help would be appreciated.
Just yesterday evening I was lurking in the documentation CD of RH,
there is a special "HOWTO" (or was a FAQ??? I don't remember) for the
SB AWE32. Check in the documentation CD.
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: Bad upgrade renders machine immune to linux :(
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 06:50:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 03:06:27 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Curgoth (Matthew Andrews)) wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>After an attempt to upgrade my mandrake 7.0 system failed badly, I
>ended up wiping the partition table and starting from scratch.
>
>I d/led and burned two sets of mandrake 7.1 CDs, since the first set
>didn't quite seem to work. I checked the md5 sums on the files after
>download, and ran rpm -qpl on the cd images to check that the rpms
>were ok.
>
>Despite all this, when i try to install mandrake 7.1, i get as far as
>the install of the Bdflush package, and I get an error installing the
>package, regardless of which set of cds I use.
<ZAP>
I had a similar problem with a program that messed up with some
esotheric BIOS configuration, messing around with the HDs.
I used the "restore bios default" option for the BIOS and then
(to be ultra-sure) I reformatted low-level the HD.
After that, no more problem.
Davide
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BIOS-->hdb-->LILO-->{linux(hdb);windows(hda)}
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:51:46 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dan Jacobson wrote:
>
> OK, I now have BIOS set to boot from IDE Primary slave (hdb), where I have
> a Linux native disk drive with Linux MBR where I'm hoping to have it ask
> me the windows or Linux choice, (using "delay" or "timeout"
> [difference=?]) the problem is I don't know how to word LILO to make the
> transfer of control, when selected, to hda's MBR where I have the original
> windows98 drive where I don't want to mess with anything, e.g., its MBR,
Just add the following to /etc/lilo.conf:
other=/dev/hda
label=win98
and don't forget to run lilo afterwards.
hitting tab at the lilo prompt shows the possible boot-images you can
use
So no need to alter the bios to boot windows, just let lilo take care of
it.
Eric
> etc. {Distro: Mandrake 7.0}. Must I reconfigure BIOS to start from IDE
> Primary Master each time I still want to use windows?
>
> By the way its too bad the LILO person decided to make, e.g., "150" equal
> 15 seconds, "15.0" would have been more intuitive...
> --
> www.geocities.com/jidanni ... fix e-mail address to reply; �n����
> Tel:+886-4-5854780; starting in year 2001: +886-4-25854780
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Husband of Incontinentia Buttocks)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,24hoursupport.helpdesk
Subject: Re: Master Boot Record
Date: 24 Aug 2000 07:01:06 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Eager) came to the attention of Agent Smith
after ejeactulating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> into the
datastream of the Matrix
>I have an old system which had Linux installed sometime in the past.
>It had LILO installed. I want to install DOS on it now (don't ask
>why). I re-partitioned the disk and installed DOS, but it will not
>boot. Apparently, LILO is looking somewhere other than where it
>should.
>
>I tried to remove LILO by running Fdisk with /MBR. Well, LILO is
>gone, but whatever is in its place doesn't do anything useful -- I get
>garbage printed on the screen.
>
>Anyone have a suggestion about how to either (a) reinstall the DOS
>boot loader correctly, or (b) reinstall LILO so it knows where the DOS
>system is located, or (c) whatever else will make this work
>reasonably.
a:\fdisk /mbr
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