Linux-Setup Digest #468, Volume #19 Thu, 24 Aug 00 15:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Installing Linux on an 800 MB HD (Barry Satan)
Re: How to use a Digital VT32A terminal instead of virtual console (Barry Satan)
Partition problem with DDruid ("geekonaleash")
Apache + SuSE6.4 Forbidden ?? ("Daniel Pfuhl")
Windows to Linux Newbie ("Bonnie Kumson")
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Craig Kelley)
Partition problem and D druid ("geekonaleash")
upgrading video card ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Re: Partition problem with DDruid (The Contact)
Re: Partition problem and D druid (The Contact)
Re: Solaris and Linux compat ... ("Larry Herzog Jr.")
Re: NEWBIE network question. (moonie;))
can't activate netcfg ("Elhanan Maayan")
Debian Potato 1.2 root floppy problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: can't activate netcfg ("dale hites")
Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux.... (Grant Edwards)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry Satan)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on an 800 MB HD
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:11:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Aug 2000 02:02:40 +0000, "Eduardo Mu�oz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Alkaline Five" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I am looking to install linux on an IBM thinkpad
>> It has 8 or 16 MB ram, and an 800 MB hard drive. It is also a 486... I want
>> to use a GUI and I want to install a browser on line to be used via a dialup
>> connection...
>
>Mi debian (www.debian.org) uses rigth now
What does that mean?
>571 MB (includes X-Windows, compilers, kernel
>sources, etc, etc)
>
>> I will being this in the next few hours, so ANYone that reads this, your
>> input would be useful.
>> I will be installing it through an ethernet card, but the etherned card will
>> be replaced with a modem.
>> I dont know what I am doing, but I know this would be the best place to ask
>> for help.
>> I need to know what distribution would be best for me... and possibly some
>> instructions for installation.
>
>I'm very happy with my debian :)
>Intructions?
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>Read the docs
>...
>
>--
>
>Eduardo Mu�oz
>
>Debian GNU/Linux 2.2
Barry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barry Satan)
Subject: Re: How to use a Digital VT32A terminal instead of virtual console
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:11:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:16:36 +0200, "Bernd Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to use two termianls from Digital (VT32A) with my Linux Machine.
>Two of my virtual consoles / terminals should go the VT32A`s through serial
>lines.
>What do I have to do?
Have a look at /etc/inittab
>Help is appreciated!
>
>Bernd
Barry
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Updated 27/07/00
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Reply-To: "geekonaleash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "geekonaleash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition problem with DDruid
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:31:01 +1000
Dear linuxers,
I'm trying to set up Redhat Linux 6.2 on a slave drive I am running on my
Athalon k7 CPU PC. I get as far as partitioning and I set up partition
mounts on the slave drive for /root, /boot, and /swap and they all go well.
The windows partition I want to keep on the main drive is still <not set>.
Disk Druid will not let me press the "next" button to continue.
Is it because:
A: The chipset for my Athalon is not compatible, as it says MAY happen on
the Redhat site
B: The windows partition mount needs to be set as something.
If it is the second option does anyone know what it has to be set as. The
docs in linux install guide and ref guide don't seem to say.
T.I.A. for any help cause I really want to get this running and piss off
windows.
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From: "Daniel Pfuhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache + SuSE6.4 Forbidden ??
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:33:41 +0200
Hi
Does anybody probably know the key to my problem.
I have installed Apache 1.3.12 on SuSE 6.4 (from src).
Everything works fine an the server starts smoothly.
But when entering the localhost from my browser it says
403-Forbidden.
What is maybe the reason for this, because with SuSE
6.3 everything works fine with the same config?
Can somebody point me in the right direction??
daniel
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Reply-To: "Bonnie Kumson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Bonnie Kumson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows to Linux Newbie
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:38:11 GMT
I have a 6-machine lan at home running on widows 98 sharing I cable internet
access.
I want to install linux as a gateway and have access to all my other
machines and files.
Memory for new machine 64meg.(200mhz Intel CPU)
Hard drive space 8gig.
The network Card is D-Link (DFE-538TX)
which installation do I use? workstation, server or custom. please explain
why.
I have already been able to get on the internet with this machine (using
Redhat 6.2 linux, but I do not have what I want to do with it. As detailed
above.
Thank you
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 Aug 2000 10:43:56 -0600
James Helferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> mlw wrote:
>
> > This who[le] XML hysteria worries me. We have people thinking that it is
> > something other than a very inefficient text based file format. Example:
> >
> > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
> > <!DOCTYPE RESULTSET SYSTEM "http://fubar.com/fubar.dtd">
> > <RESULTSET>
> > <RESULT ID="0" >
> > <MATCHES>0</MATCHES>
> > <TIME>0.1605</TIME>
> > <RATINGS>0</RATINGS>
> > <MAXSCORE>2510</MAXSCORE>
> > <SCORE>6947</SCORE>
> > <SIZE>6536</SIZE>
> > <LANGUAGE>_LANG1_</LANGUAGE>
> > <DATE>957148708</DATE>
> > <FORMAT>0</FORMAT>
> > <MODDATE>0</MODDATE>
> > </RESULT>
> > </RESULTSET>
> >
> > That's all that XML is, nothing more. It can not replace programs, it is
> > not a new concept in operating systems.
>
> [nod] It's good for storing databases as text, which means it makes
> sense to integrate it with HTML. But if you start using it for other
> things, it becomes kinda.. fruity..
Take a look at MacOS X Bundles:
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/corefoundation/BundleServices/CFBundleServices/index.html
It use XML the way it should be used (as an architecture-agnostic
manner of storing a small ammount of information) and literally makes
installing applications as easy as dragging them to wherever you want
to put them. I hope these people aren't trying to do something more
complicated than this, as this is the utopia of application
installation (IMHO). You can drag a bundle to wherever you want to
place it (hard disk, network, removable media, ram disk, whatever) and
it will always work; even adding it's shared libraries to the search
path. A bundle can hold binaries and source for a number of
architectures. It also contains meta information about itself in a
standardized manner, which allows automation of program registration
and network updates.
Linux is halfway there already with RPM and deb; but the ultimate goal
is to just get rid of them.
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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Reply-To: "geekonaleash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "geekonaleash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition problem and D druid
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:53:37 +1000
Dear linuxers,
I'm trying to set up Redhat Linux 6.2 on a slave drive I am running on my
Athalon k7 CPU PC. I get as far as partitioning and I set up partition
mounts on the slave drive for /root, /boot, and /swap and they all go well.
The windows partition I want to keep on the main drive is still <not set>.
Disk Druid will not let me press the "next" button to continue.
Is it because:
A: The chipset for my Athalon is not compatible, as it says MAY happen on
the Redhat site
B: The windows partition mount needs to be set as something.
If it is the second option does anyone know what it has to be set as. The
docs in linux install guide and ref guide don't seem to say.
T.I.A. for any help cause I really want to get this running and piss off
windows.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: upgrading video card
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:52:12 GMT
I have Redhat 5.2 installed on my system, and want to upgrade the video
card to a Voodoo3 2000 PCI. I read here that Redhat only started
supporting the V3 cards with version 6.1.
Would the easiest thing be to buy a copy of Redhat 6.2 and run the
installation upgrade after installing the Voodoo 3 card? I'm just
interested in the 2D aspects of the Voodoo 3 for linux.
--
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Bill Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:56:16 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> This who XML hysteria worries me. We have people thinking that it is
> something other than a very inefficient text based file format. Example:
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
> <!DOCTYPE RESULTSET SYSTEM "http://fubar.com/fubar.dtd">
> <RESULTSET>
> <RESULT ID="0" >
> <MATCHES>0</MATCHES>
> <TIME>0.1605</TIME>
> <RATINGS>0</RATINGS>
> <MAXSCORE>2510</MAXSCORE>
> <SCORE>6947</SCORE>
> <SIZE>6536</SIZE>
> <LANGUAGE>_LANG1_</LANGUAGE>
> <DATE>957148708</DATE>
> <FORMAT>0</FORMAT>
> <MODDATE>0</MODDATE>
> </RESULT>
> </RESULTSET>
>
> That's all that XML is, nothing more. It can not replace programs, it is
> not a new concept in operating systems.
Even if the original poster got his terminology confused. I imagine that
what was being proposed here is using our computers running web browsers
serving and the frontends of applications programs, with the core of the
programs running on the web servers as webpages using CGI's. And possibly
major programs running say as a replacement for an suite of office
productivity programs which communicate with web browser clients as
webservers in their own right.
Can this work? It depends on the programs being replaced, but it can work
for some programs. This does not eliminate the need for application
programs it just relocates it from you computer to that of the web servers.
But being possible does not make it desireable. This does not eliminate all
programs, and never could unless a user limits their need to software to
only what can be handled this way. However there are too many issues and
concerns for this to be desireable.
Years ago when there was no other viable option for most people and they
needed direct computer interaction, they would rent access on a timeshare
system. Using a teletype terminal or a dumb terminal to communicate via a
modem with the timeshare host. The bandwidth of the connection was low by
today's standards (150 baud or 300 baud), but since it was not a shared
resource it was servicable. The bottle neck was the performance of the
timeshare host. Often you might have to wait from several seconds to a few
minutes and seeing the result of it echoed on the screen. These delays were
caused by the timeshare host becomming too busy to keep up.
As soon as any viable options were available, the timeshare system were
abandoned by the users in droves. People in general found the 8-bit, 8K -
48K RAM, 1Mhz - <2Mhz micros much more desireable over the timeshare
systems.
The proposal offered here has all the hallmarks of returning us to the
timeshare era with all of its problems and issues. The text only ASR-33's
and LS-120's text only terminals would be replaced with web client
terminals. The 150 baud and 300 baud non-shared connection would be replace
by TCP/IP shared connections. The timeshare hosts would be replaced by web
servers running the application programs.
That is all window dressing, what that would really amount to is a return to
yester year's computing. Imagine performance when several thousand or
million (or billion?) users are all competing for the same servers. We
should not forget the past and so we should not be condemed to repeat it.
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From: The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition problem with DDruid
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:04:13 GMT
geekonaleash wrote:
>
> Dear linuxers,
>
> I'm trying to set up Redhat Linux 6.2 on a slave drive I am running on my
> Athalon k7 CPU PC. I get as far as partitioning and I set up partition
> mounts on the slave drive for /root, /boot, and /swap and they all go well.
> The windows partition I want to keep on the main drive is still <not set>.
>
> Disk Druid will not let me press the "next" button to continue.
>
> Is it because:
>
> A: The chipset for my Athalon is not compatible, as it says MAY happen on
> the Redhat site
>
> B: The windows partition mount needs to be set as something.
>
> If it is the second option does anyone know what it has to be set as. The
> docs in linux install guide and ref guide don't seem to say.
>
> T.I.A. for any help cause I really want to get this running and piss off
> windows.
It is because you haven't selected a partition for '/'.
--
The Contact
"Knowledge should be free; appliance not."
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition problem and D druid
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:04:44 GMT
geekonaleash wrote:
>
> Dear linuxers,
>
> I'm trying to set up Redhat Linux 6.2 on a slave drive I am running on my
> Athalon k7 CPU PC. I get as far as partitioning and I set up partition
> mounts on the slave drive for /root, /boot, and /swap and they all go well.
> The windows partition I want to keep on the main drive is still <not set>.
>
> Disk Druid will not let me press the "next" button to continue.
>
> Is it because:
>
> A: The chipset for my Athalon is not compatible, as it says MAY happen on
> the Redhat site
>
> B: The windows partition mount needs to be set as something.
>
> If it is the second option does anyone know what it has to be set as. The
> docs in linux install guide and ref guide don't seem to say.
>
> T.I.A. for any help cause I really want to get this running and piss off
> windows.
It is because you haven't selected a partition for '/'.
--
The Contact
"Knowledge should be free; appliance not."
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.unix.solaris
From: "Larry Herzog Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Solaris and Linux compat ...
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:11:15 -0500
Do you have the format of the "/etc/exports" file right??
ex:
/exported/filesystem client-hostname(rw,no_root_squash)
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Eoin Verling wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've a Linux NFS server and a solaris client. I want root on the client to
> be able to install onto the NFS mounted partition, and change owner/perm.
>
> The option for the linux '/etc/exports' file is 'no_root_squash', but the
> solaris client doesn't seem to understand that. Is there another option??
>
> E
>
>
>
_____
Larry Herzog Jr. "Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit,
ZRXOA #1029 but in humility consider others better than
[EMAIL PROTECTED] yourselves." -- Philippians 2:3
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NEWBIE network question.
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:20:04 -0400
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi !
>
>Assuming that D-Link is on Desktop and Psion on Laptop, It is possible to
>connect both with a patch cable. You can give IP of 192.30.200.1 on desktop
>and 192.30.200.2 on laptop + sm of 255.255.255.0 for both.
>
>Install Samba on Linux and you have the network....
>
>Speaking only for myself...
>Megalinuxpro
Patch cable won't work without a hub, what you need is a crossover cable.
Other info is correct.
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
http://counter.li.org
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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From: "Elhanan Maayan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't activate netcfg
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:35:37 +0200
i have redhat 6.2 which i installed with the gnome config package...
when i try to activate the netcfg i get
traceback (innermost last):
and then a lot of messages like:
file "path/filename" , line "line number" in ?
""
""
and in the end:
tclError: no display name and no $DISPLAY Envioment variable.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Debian Potato 1.2 root floppy problem
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:41:57 GMT
System: AMD k5PR133, Tyan S1563S mbd with Intel HX chipset
Symptoms: Debian Potato i386 rescue idepci 1.2M disk boots correctly,
but the corresponding root 1.2M disk is not recognized:
"Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0."
Other checks: The images are what Debian distribted, because they have
the md5sums that Debian says they should have, as measured
on the actual rescue and root floppies used, both before
and after the failed mount of the root disk.
The 1.2M drive is ok, because it was used when the md5sums
of the floppies were calculated.
Comments: Is this an officially recognized problem? Where would any revised
floppy images be found? Is the code of dbootstrap available separately?
[If so, I guess I could run it from Slackware 7.1.] Is there a way to
extract the contents of the root disk? It is not directly mountable
from Slackware 7.1.
I'm presuming that when Debian asks for the root disk, it means that the
rescue disk is to be removed, and the root disk inserted in the drive
which previously held the rescue disk. This is not stated explicitly.
If there is an option to load the root image from another drive,
I haven't found it.
-David West dhw @ gamgee . acad . emich . edu
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Reply-To: "dale hites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "dale hites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't activate netcfg
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:40:30 -0500
Elhanan,
I will take some wild guesses, but from the look of the error messages you
are not running netcfg within a desktop. You need to run it from a desktop.
I run mine from the enlightenment desktop that comes with RH.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux....
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:52:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Carl Fink wrote:
>>My observations exactly. SO is way too big and slow compared to either WP
>>or Applix.
>
>It's significantly faster than WP on my box. Faster to load, faster
>to use.
Really? Faster than WP8 or faster than the new and improved
Corel-WP-Office-Suite-Windows-Code-linked-with-Winelib thing?
I haven't tried the latter, but on my machines WP8 is way
faster than SO.
>That and it works with icewm.
>
>>And the way it thinks it needs to take over and show that damned
>>desktop is really annoying.
>
>Supposedly the next version will decompose it back into applications.
That would be nice.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'm having
at a tax-deductible
visi.com experience! I need an
energy crunch!!
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